One thing I will say is that the level of openness and involvement of the dev makes this one of the more refreshing icos in recent memory.

Live facebook chats, superb whitepaper, the dev adjusting ico price down to reflect the bitcoin surge and extending phase 1 of ico due to early issues makes this one of the most promising icos I have seen in a while.

The complaints about this being a "mess" are just silly and have to be from those who haven't done many icos. Just take a look at the ico disasters of late and then compare ... electroneum comes to mind.

First  check to see if someone else is using your computer to create accounts. If not you either have ghosts or are sleep walking and using computer.

Had no trouble logging in on my end and bought ico with no issues

received an email yesterday about another fork, UnitedBitcoin aka UBTC  happening today:

"The ratio of  UBTC you will receive for every BTC in your QoinPro wallet is 1:1, meaning if you have 2.7 BTC you will get 2.7 UBTC (just like BCH and BTG).  There is a special procedure for claiming UBTC, but we will handle it for you"

Reading this thread seems withdrawals take a while ... reason unimportant. A little worrisome and strange that deposits are automatic but withdrawals require in house processing.

Anyone able to withdraw their deposits and bonus coins thus far???

As a contrarian, the obvious answer is that this will cause massive manipulation of btc price resulting in erratic swings up/down but I will go against popular judgement and say it will cause continued upward trend .... but these thieves may stay true to form and destroy btc

Just read this article about proposed senate bill to CRIMINALIZE the intentional concealment of ownership or control of any digital currency known today or in the future.

https://themerkle.com/not-disclosing-ones-bitcoin-may-become-a-crime-in-the-us/

First with KYC rules for ico participation to SSN required for some exchanges to the listing of crypto as property which means any transfer or transaction is taxable. And yes if you have used bitcoin to transact you owe and it can be easily traced. Even that localbitcoins transaction.

This is the inevitable natural progression especially now with exchange listing coming shortly. Remember with US gov't it is never a matter of your intent, it is simply what can be proven ...

Be very careful US residents. If not already using coins that are already stealth, I suggest looking into them.

lol if it was only $1000 a day it still wouldn't make sense but at least not this madness. It started the day around $11,600 now $14+ . That's approaching a $3000 increase in 1 day  

And asia is just waking up let's see what happens. Hope everyone already has some BTC

holy O&(@, just a couple hours a it was around 13k now above 14k. At this rate 20k before year end.... what is going on  

xspec is going to have some competition soon in the form of tokenpay. Stealth, addresses, ring signatures, tor and using the bitcoin block chain. Seems like a once in a blue moon type ico opportunity and the bonuses and insane.

This is why we should all stay away from any coin that has massive airdrops or ico bonuses ... unless you can get them. Don't see how anyone would pay for these coins post airdrop.

 

Why is this even an issue or a thought?  This is the 21st century and let there be no doubt women drive western society. Every bitcoin you own will eventually end up in a woman's hand, stop the shameless gynocentrism.

I use the trezor hardware wallet and its super easy to use. Just hate that it can't store ETH natively though, have to use bulilt in ethereum wallet plugin. Never tried the ledger

great idea, having to deal with satoshi vs fiat is a pain

At this rate and with mainstream adoption coming, starting with CME futures shortly and the inevitable snow ball effect due to that ... end of 2018, 100k is a super low estimate.

wow could have gotten a whole bitcoin with 5k a few weeks ago. Those days might be gone forever though 

That said you are way ahead of the game and trust you will be glad you bought in a week. This is not stopping. Just don't panic during the inevitable corrections and you will sleep easy at night.

is this the reason for the price mooning like this ?

2 days ago, finally gave in and bought some more bitcoin since the $8000 levels. Sat back and watched it climb day after day thinking a correction is coming. Nope....  Finally surrendered and went in with 50% of capital in 11000s. Now above $13000. Ridiculous but so are real estate prices and rent. Finally off the sidelines and on the btc train.

Get on now before its too late, because this thing is not stopping !!!

Unless you plan on trading them I would advise getting the wallet and moving them asap. Take no chances in the crypto world...

Every thread I read its one scam or another. I mined in a pool first few days and received way less than I was suppose to. That was the last day, fortunately I did the math which most dont.

This crap has to stop.

Recently having issues. Created about five new key and all not working. Not sure what's going on

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