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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: X11mod, X13mod, X15 and catalyst 14.6 RC2 on: July 02, 2014, 10:30:26 PM
Anyone know how to get x15 on PiMP?
42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][AERO] Aerocoin x13 + PoS | AeroME | 30 GH/S on: July 02, 2014, 01:52:22 PM
You should contact with bittrex, it will be better for coin.

+1

Wait a day or two then do this.
43  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Download New Wallets] Clean Water Coin | $2,000 Donated to Charity: Water on: July 02, 2014, 08:04:53 AM
I believe that the calculation for "Pool Hashrate" on the official pool is incorrect.  It has been higher than the net hashrate many times.  The net hashrate listed on the pool is correct according to the wallet (getmininginfo).  So either someone on the pool is submitting "fake" low diff shares or there is a different problem with the calculation.

First of all, I should note that official pool is using official pool software (too many officials in there, I know Smiley )

Now, it is known that stratum software (no matter which) can't calculate the hashrate properly and it gives a rough estimation.
The calculation of stratum software is based on committed work over time (a minute in our case) and the difficulty average.

Now, imagine the following scenario: X amount of shares were submitted at 0:59 [mm:ss], and calculations started at exactly 1:00. If for any reason the db backend delayed a bit to store them and they were stored *after* the calculation function retrieved db records, that means that those shares will not be calculated now, but in the next calculation round.
What that means, is that there will be a decreased reported hashrate for current calculation round, while there will be an increased reported hashrate in the next calculation round. That's how you see sometimes bigger than normal the pool's hashrate.

Now, add to the equation that wallet net hashrate calculates the average of difficulty of all found blocks (both PoW and PoS). PoS blocks are of a extremely low diff, which means it affects the average a lot.

Hope it makes sense.


Interesting stuff, thanks for the explanation.
44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Download New Wallets] Clean Water Coin | $2,000 Donated to Charity: Water on: July 02, 2014, 07:32:45 AM
OMG, "asic resistant algos" - LOL there is no such thing.

ASICs (Application Specific Integrated Circuits) are simply a chip that has been designed to perform one function very well and very quickly. It has been done for SHA256, it has been done for Scrypt
and it can be done for any algorithm.

If everyone switches to X11 then guess what? There will soon be X11 ASICs. I would hazard a guess that somewhere in China there is already one being designed. The only difference between X11 and Scrypt is that it doesn't stress GPUs as much meaning they run cooler and use less power, which I agree is a good thing but it doesn't mean much else. ASICs already use a fraction of the power of GPUs and produce next to no heat. And hash-for-hash don't cost much more. Remember, GPUs are not designed for mining coins but for playing games so whatever algorithm is used they will never be the most efficient way of doing it.

When you talk about 'centralisation' you seem to be referring only to miners - cryptocoins are not there just to make miners money you know, they are supposed to be USED as currencies without any interference from governments or banks etc. Their decentralised nature comes from the fact that the blockchain is downloaded and stored on individual users' computers all over the world and is not reliant on one institution. So the only requirement for someone to be involved is access to a computer or smartphone or whatever. Not everyone has to be a miner!

It is inevitable that anyone with more money to invest in the first place will be able to mine more currency for themselves, whether they are buying GPUs or ASICs. That's not the point, these currencies need to have a reason to be USED by people - which, I believe CWC has in abundance (once all the bugs are ironed out!) So moan however much you like about 'the elite' it will make no difference to you whether Scrypt, X11 or whatever is used, someone else out there will always be able to mine a lot more coins than you.

Bitcoin is now not widely mined except by the super rich as the difficulty is so high but you don't see it dying because none of us mere mortals can afford to mine it profitably do you? No, it is successful because it is USED. The only thing that makes a coin survive is its popularity. If a coin is popular and being used, the difficulty goes up which in turn makes it less profitable for everyone to mine, which in turn means more people switch to ASICs. This will happen whatever algorithm is used as it is designed into the very concept of cryptocoins. If the only reason you're into this is to make money, there are really only 2 ways you can do this- 1) Find and research a new coin which you think has potential and get in early and mine a bunch to hold onto until the price rockets (Imagine if you'd mined 10000BTC a couple of years ago when the difficulty was nice and low and held onto them!) or 2) Invest some fiat currency and do some day trading betting on which coin is going places. Neither strategy will guarantee you big bucks!

That's why they are called ASIC resistant.

To create an ASIC is not a quick, cheap and easy process. It takes a serious amount of money (we're talking about 7 digit figures only for production), long time of designing/testing and well paid engineers/designers for it. Also, ASICs don't do well with "memory hungry" algorithms, because as you can understand you can't fit everything in one (or even more chip layers), so the board design complexity increases a lot, adding to the total cost of creation/production (memory controllers, data bus, etc).

Overall, it needs quite some time to create, thus making it harder/more expensive to produce.

Indeed, with the word "resistant" being key.
45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Download New Wallets] Clean Water Coin | $2,000 Donated to Charity: Water on: July 02, 2014, 07:27:21 AM
I believe that the calculation for "Pool Hashrate" on the official pool is incorrect.  It has been higher than the net hashrate many times.  The net hashrate listed on the pool is correct according to the wallet (getmininginfo).  So either someone on the pool is submitting "fake" low diff shares or there is a different problem with the calculation.
46  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Download New Wallets] Clean Water Coin | $2,000 Donated to Charity: Water on: June 30, 2014, 01:09:57 PM
Bittrex has disabled CWC again. Anyone have any info on this? Is it just because they are updating to the latest wallet? Any news on when it will be back up?

Also any news on when Mintpal will be listing CWC?

cwc is disabled at Bittrex due to this dreaded warning:

WARNING: Invalid checkpoint found! Displayed transactions may not be correct! You may need to upgrade, or notify developers.
47  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BLU] BlueCoin (ß) | X11 Distribution | 3% PoS | CPU+GPU Friendly | Anti-ASIC on: June 29, 2014, 07:29:29 AM
We are currently considering the following changes to BlueCoins economic and technical structure:

  • Dropping the PoS activation to Block 50,000 lowering the initial issuance to 500 Million BLUE instead of 1 Billion.
  • Changing the PoS reward to 1.5% yearly and giving the other 1.5% to the miners who opt-in to secure the network for life. Initial annual inflation rate would be roughly 15 million BLUE.
  • Maintaining the X11 PoW algorithm beyond block 50,000.00 effectively making BlueCoin a hybrid PoS/PoW coin, and ensuring that the network is secured against 51% attacks.

I like everything except the PoS interest rate.  You need to give people an incentive to hold the coin by raising the interest rate then slowly dropping the interest rate every year until it is say 1%.  You could lower the block reward gradually to offset this.
48  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BLU] BlueCoin (ß) | X11 Distribution | 3% PoS | CPU+GPU Friendly | Anti-ASIC on: June 29, 2014, 02:23:17 AM
trying to find out if the escrow went ahead

Premine 3% for growth bounties, network maintenance, and coin expansion.

you forget the only thing to which this premine will serve

Thats what they all say!!!...ill pass

Prove it.. put it in escrow
The funds have been in control by team BLUE (group of half a dozen of us) since the beginning.

We have documented every single coin given away....

Public Address BXQszaMnwuQvkeRW52xdL6xSko5U2TANEs

how can I get a give away?

draw a blue alien bro, srsly

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=667224.msg7534895#msg7534895
49  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BLU] BlueCoin (ß) | X11 Distribution | 3% PoS | CPU+GPU Friendly | Anti-ASIC on: June 29, 2014, 02:19:38 AM
And just like that we are at 1GH/s net...

edit:  And now 1.78GH/s

edit:  2.45GH/s
50  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BLU] BlueCoin (ß) | X11 Distribution | 3% PoS | CPU+GPU Friendly | Anti-ASIC on: June 29, 2014, 01:38:17 AM
Where is this 5GH/s network hashrate coming from?  All the pools in the OP combined add up to less than 0.5GH/s.  In fact, as the net hash rises people leave the pools.  Now less than 90MH/s on xhash and about 160MH/s on suchpool.

suchpool:
Est. Avg. Time per Round (Pool)   1 hour 18 minutes 58 seconds

xhash:
Est. Avg. Time per Round (Pool)   2 hours 20 minutes 42 seconds

And this price is down to 11 satoshi.
51  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BLU] BlueCoin (ß) | X11 Distribution | 3% PoS | CPU+GPU Friendly | Anti-ASIC on: June 28, 2014, 04:46:22 AM
BlueCoin v1.1.2.0 Fixes:

1. Fixed issues with Coin Control.
2. Fixed several compiling errors.

Thank you PCMERC and Agran for compiling these wallets for us!

WINDOWS v1.1.2.0: http://coinia.net/bluecoin/bluecoin-win-v1.1.2.0.zip
MAC v1.1.2.0:  http://pcmerc.com/files/Bluecoin-Qt.dmg

Coin control still does not work with the windows version.
What issue are you experiencing with it?

Please describe error in full.

I go to settings, options, display and check the box next to "Display coin control features (experts only)", apply and ok.  Then I go to "Send coins".  A new "Coin Control Features" interface should appear above "Pay to" that looks something like this:



But nothing changes, there are no coin control features there at all.  Even after restarting the wallet and/or checking and unchecking the box again.  I also tried deleting everything except the wallet.dat and starting over again.

Also in addition to the above I have not received any PoS coins after almost 4 days.
PoS period has NOT begun YET. That does not start till after block 100,000.

We're still looking into some of the issues people are having with the Windows QT on Windows 8 including some of the coin control issues.

Well that would explain it.  There isn't really a need for coin control if it isn't PoS yet.  However, I'm on win7 64bit.
52  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BLU] BlueCoin (ß) | X11 Distribution | 3% PoS | CPU+GPU Friendly | Anti-ASIC on: June 28, 2014, 04:33:09 AM
BlueCoin v1.1.2.0 Fixes:

1. Fixed issues with Coin Control.
2. Fixed several compiling errors.

Thank you PCMERC and Agran for compiling these wallets for us!

WINDOWS v1.1.2.0: http://coinia.net/bluecoin/bluecoin-win-v1.1.2.0.zip
MAC v1.1.2.0:  http://pcmerc.com/files/Bluecoin-Qt.dmg

Coin control still does not work with the windows version.
What issue are you experiencing with it?

Please describe error in full.

I go to settings, options, display and check the box next to "Display coin control features (experts only)", apply and ok.  Then I go to "Send coins".  A new "Coin Control Features" interface should appear above "Pay to" that looks something like this:



But nothing changes, there are no coin control features there at all.  Even after restarting the wallet and/or checking and unchecking the box again.  I also tried deleting everything except the wallet.dat and starting over again.

Also in addition to the above I have not received any PoS coins after almost 4 days.
53  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BLU] BlueCoin (ß) | X11 Distribution | 3% PoS | CPU+GPU Friendly | Anti-ASIC on: June 27, 2014, 12:56:56 AM
BlueCoin v1.1.2.0 Fixes:

1. Fixed issues with Coin Control.
2. Fixed several compiling errors.

Thank you PCMERC and Agran for compiling these wallets for us!

WINDOWS v1.1.2.0: http://coinia.net/bluecoin/bluecoin-win-v1.1.2.0.zip
MAC v1.1.2.0:  http://pcmerc.com/files/Bluecoin-Qt.dmg

Coin control still does not work with the windows version.
What issue are you experiencing with it?

Please describe error in full.

I go to settings, options, display and check the box next to "Display coin control features (experts only)", apply and ok.  Then I go to "Send coins".  A new "Coin Control Features" interface should appear above "Pay to" that looks something like this:



But nothing changes, there are no coin control features there at all.  Even after restarting the wallet and/or checking and unchecking the box again.  I also tried deleting everything except the wallet.dat and starting over again.
54  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BLU] BlueCoin (ß) | X11 Distribution | 3% PoS | CPU+GPU Friendly | Anti-ASIC on: June 26, 2014, 10:09:49 PM
BlueCoin v1.1.2.0 Fixes:

1. Fixed issues with Coin Control.
2. Fixed several compiling errors.

Thank you PCMERC and Agran for compiling these wallets for us!

WINDOWS v1.1.2.0: http://coinia.net/bluecoin/bluecoin-win-v1.1.2.0.zip
MAC v1.1.2.0:  http://pcmerc.com/files/Bluecoin-Qt.dmg

Coin control still does not work with the windows version.
55  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Download New Wallets] Clean Water Coin | $2,000 Donated to Charity: Water on: June 26, 2014, 09:17:25 PM

Scrypt or X11: We Want To Hear From You!

Attention Clean Water Coin Community,

With summer here, or right around the corner (depending on where you live), we have all been noodling the idea of switching over to X11. X11, as many of you know -- has proven to be a less expensive way to mine coins with slightly increased productivity. And so we would like to pose the question to each of you and get your feedback.

Should we hard fork and change to the X11 algorithm? Please let us know your thoughts, suggestions, or comments!! Grin

We look forward to hearing from you,
The Clean Water Coin Team

This is a great idea, in fact I was going to suggest it.  This would bring many new people to this community.
56  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BLU] BlueCoin (ß) | X11 Distribution | 3% PoS *HARD FORK JUNE 22* on: June 25, 2014, 04:57:12 AM
Proposal from Team BLUE:

Currently the Blue Team is looking into a possible scenario where BlueCoin will take form as a PoS / X11 hybrid coin instead of just PoS only. As we have seen in the past PoS-only coins can be prone to 51% attacks while an attacker holds only 20% of the total coins in circulation. This can happen when a majority of coins have been “locked” or are sitting inactive in cold storage.

Until cold minting is perfected and realized, this problem will continue to plague PoS-only coins and require centralized efforts to mitigate these types of attacks. When applying a PoW algorithm to the equation this “exploit” becomes very difficult if not impossible to execute.

The BlueCoin team believes in innovative PoS solutions, and more importantly believes in the economic model behind BLU offering a 3% annual interest rate to all the users of its network. With that said we feel that in order to maintain a secure and decentralized network it would be best to keep the ASIC resistant, CPU+GPU friendly X11 algorithm, running past block 10,000 and beyond.

In doing this BlueCoin would essentially drop the PoS interest to 1.5% per annum, and set the PoW distribution rate to a steady 1.5% per annum, leaving the original 3% return per annum unscathed. To conclude the top reasons for Blue going in this direction are to 1. Secure the network from these types of attacks now and in the long-term future. 2. Maintain a truly decentralized eco-system. 3. Involve more users into the equation by allowing them to mine with their laptops / personal computers indefinitely.

We by no means want to change the rules unilaterally and would love to hear from you the Blue community! Let us know what you think about this proposal. As always we’re here to serve you!

http://www.peercointalk.org/index.php?topic=2783.0
http://wiki.darkcoin.eu/wiki/X11


I totally understand the reasoning behind this plan however 3% per annum is already rather small and not much incentive to hold onto coins.  At 1.5% per annum there is even less incentive to hold coins for a longer time period.  Just saying.
57  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Download New Wallets] Clean Water Coin | $2,000 Donated to Charity: Water on: June 25, 2014, 03:28:53 AM
Are there any CleanWaterCoin.org WATER wallet builds or downloads after 1.7.0.1?

I'm stuck at 11942 approx blocks remaining and still have 16K of unconfirmed coins which were previously confirmed.

1.7.0.1 is the latest wallet, but we recommend backing up your wallet.dat and deleting everything -- and then firing back up the wallet again. Have you tried that?

I cleared everything again (i.e. deleted all the blockchain files, except wallet.dat) on my 9500 water unconfirmed Wallet #1 and cleared everything on our preferred newer Water Wallet #2 for receiving funds when mining at the Official Clear Water Coin pool at pool.cleanwatercoin.org. Reference: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=526513.msg7121436#msg7121436

The first 1.7.0.1 Windows 8.1 64-bit Wallet #1 doesn't sync any further at 1009 blocks to go. The Second Water Wallet 1.7.0.1 on Windows 7 64-bit is stuck around 958 blocks to go.

Actually an UPDATE:
on the Windows 8.1 WATER wallet #1, it now says:

WARNING: Invalid checkpoint found! Displayed transactions may not be correct! You may need to upgrade, or notify developers.
The Warning you get, means that you have received (and accepted) blocks from the wrong chain (there are still bogus wallets online).
I was about to update the wallet with a new client that would reject connections from clients of previous versions so we don't have to worry about this anymore, but didn't have time to finish up. Will do as soon as my schedule allows it. I apologize for the delays and I take all the blames on me regarding that. I'm still trying to find ways to extend a day's length to more than 24h. It's just ain't enough... Smiley
My advice to you is to delete the files (indluding wallet.dat after of course you create a backup of it) and put in your config file the following:

Code:
irc=0
dns=0
connect= 107.170.89.103

This will make your wallet connect to this ip only (it's one of the official nodes of cleanwatercoin) and download blocks from the chain.
You might see that you can't connect to it. Just let it open, eventually it will connect (as soon as the ban period has passed).
Then, as soon as your wallet finishes syncing, stop the wallet, remove the above directives (or just put a # in front of them to remark them), restore your wallet.dat backup and then start your wallet again.
If you find many coins that you minted through PoS to not be available anymore, that's normal as most probably you were staking in the wrong chain.
If you find that there are coins missing, you can always do a "checkwallet" from the rpc console to see what the wallet thinks about those coins. In case there are coins reported as missing or spent, then run "repairwallet"

Hope that helps

I did this after I tried to send coins to myself and it never confirmed.  Turns out I had several PoS coins that were on the wrong chain.  After the repairwallet PoS coins started staking like crazy.  Very helpful stuff, thanks!
58  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] cudaMiner & ccMiner CUDA based mining applications [Windows/Linux/MacOSX] on: June 24, 2014, 10:27:59 AM
When is the plan for reliesing the miner with CryptoNight
Tomorrow, next week, next month... We'll never know till its actually released Wink

Also, tsiv, if you're bored, there's still wild keccak (Boolberry) and dcrypt (Slimcoin) ^^"
I tried to add dcrypt myself, but it's way out of my league Sad It does have a minerd (cpu-miner) implementation though.

I'm thinking about switching to Nvidia and I was wondering what kind of hashrate I should expect from a 750ti for the x11 algo.  What version of ccminer is best for x11 and what driver version?  Thanks!
2.6MH/S x11 for a 750TI.

You could try out my profit calc, it has the default hashrates set for a 750TI: https://github.com/KBomba/cuda-profit-calc/releases
And I know Cryptsy is not working, they changed their api Cheesy Will fix it probably tonight.

Thanks for the info!  I'm going to start with four 750TI's and see how it goes.
59  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] cudaMiner & ccMiner CUDA based mining applications [Windows/Linux/MacOSX] on: June 24, 2014, 10:14:42 AM
I'm thinking about switching to Nvidia and I was wondering what kind of hashrate I should expect from a 750ti for the x11 algo.  What version of ccminer is best for x11 and what driver version?  Thanks!
60  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BLU] BlueCoin (ß) | X11 Distribution | 3% PoS *HARD FORK JUNE 22* on: June 24, 2014, 06:55:59 AM
Proposal from Team BLUE:

Currently the Blue Team is looking into a possible scenario where BlueCoin will take form as a PoS / X11 hybrid coin instead of just PoS only. As we have seen in the past PoS-only coins can be prone to 51% attacks while an attacker holds only 20% of the total coins in circulation. This can happen when a majority of coins have been “locked” or are sitting inactive in cold storage.

Until cold minting is perfected and realized, this problem will continue to plague PoS-only coins and require centralized efforts to mitigate these types of attacks. When applying a PoW algorithm to the equation this “exploit” becomes very difficult if not impossible to execute.

The BlueCoin team believes in innovative PoS solutions, and more importantly believes in the economic model behind BLU offering a 3% annual interest rate to all the users of its network. With that said we feel that in order to maintain a secure and decentralized network it would be best to keep the ASIC resistant, CPU+GPU friendly X11 algorithm, running past block 10,000 and beyond.

In doing this BlueCoin would essentially drop the PoS interest to 1.5% per annum, and set the PoW distribution rate to a steady 1.5% per annum, leaving the original 3% return per annum unscathed. To conclude the top reasons for Blue going in this direction are to 1. Secure the network from these types of attacks now and in the long-term future. 2. Maintain a truly decentralized eco-system. 3. Involve more users into the equation by allowing them to mine with their laptops / personal computers with no indefinitely.

We by no means want to change the rules unilaterally and would love to hear from you the Blue community! Let us know what you think about this proposal. As always we’re here to serve you!

http://www.peercointalk.org/index.php?topic=2783.0
http://wiki.darkcoin.eu/wiki/X11


With PoW at 1.5% per annum what would the block reward be?
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