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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining performance of Nvidia RTX 2080 Series on: August 31, 2018, 12:46:01 AM

with such a price these video cards are absolutely not interesting for mining, especially against the backdrop of a strong fall in the whole crypto currency market. better to take cards of the past pokrleniya!

It would be cheaper to buy multiple 1080Ti than the 2080ti.

Assuming you aren't limited to 2-3 cards.


I mean...if you have the space, then not really, because a cheap mobo setup with bunches of pcie slots isn't very expensive in comparison to the price difference if you're buying in bulk. However, since we don't know what these cards will do, it's all speculative at this point.
42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining performance of Nvidia RTX 2080 Series on: August 31, 2018, 12:44:33 AM
So the overall sentiment is that the price is not worth it?

I purchased 1 EVGA RTX 2080

Cost was 750


It is worth having one of them.

I don’t see that a 1200usd 2080ti is going to be much better then the 2080

The 2080ti has 11gb RAM at a faster mem speed. It'll be a similar difference as between the 1080 and 1080ti.

I agree  but 1200/750 vs 700/500

means  the 2080ti cost 60%  more then the 2080

and the 1080ti cost 40% more then the 1080

so the 2080 is better then the 1080

I was talking about performance, not price. Price is set by demand, expense, and market factors, not an accurate reflection of performance.
43  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining performance of Nvidia RTX 2080 Series on: August 30, 2018, 05:50:45 AM
So the overall sentiment is that the price is not worth it?

I purchased 1 EVGA RTX 2080

Cost was 750


It is worth having one of them.

I don’t see that a 1200usd 2080ti is going to be much better then the 2080

The 2080ti has 11gb RAM at a faster mem speed. It'll be a similar difference as between the 1080 and 1080ti.
44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: What are CPU only mineable coins? on: August 30, 2018, 05:34:25 AM
Yes. Bytecoin (BCN) and Monero (XMR) are the best coins to mine. I have a 4 yr old laptop with Intel i5-3210M and it gets 50 H/s on both XMR and BCN and I was able to mine 20 BCN in a little less than 12 hours.

I am very new in mining and i would like to learn how do you do this.  I have a new laptop, intel 8 gen.  What else do i need?  Software?  Do u mind sharing the step by step guide?

Google "xmr-stak". Or use the miner in the gui wallet.

But don't do either, really. A laptop isn't ideal for mining, you're just going to shorten its lifespan significantly.
45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain launches the Z9 Equihash miner on: August 30, 2018, 12:00:44 AM
I had been following the shipment via the DHL online tracker.  When it got to destination DHL office, I saw the follow message:

Shipment held - Available upon receipt of payment

So I called them and they told me they tried to contact me but were unable to.  The lady then told me how to pay the duty online.

Bummer. DHL used to be the best option. How much was it?
46  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain launches the Z9 Equihash miner on: August 29, 2018, 11:59:25 PM
DHL delivered my batch 2, no customs charges. Smiley

Yet.  I know UPS bills me for the "broker fee".  I have never had customs charges, but every shipment I get hit with a fee

Didn't come from China like my first batch did but rather HK.

Hong Kong is part of China.

Yes, but it's different since the British used to own it (no longer the case). One is a developed market (HK), one is emerging (China) in the MSCI indices. HK has its own legal system and acts separately than mainland China.

True, but this would have no effect on taxes, tariffs, or duties.

Well, I look forward to hearing from HK-shipped ASICs as to whether the receiver was assessed a customs tax--I did not with the origination there but I did when it originated from Shenzhen.

I've only paid when using UPS (either destination), DHL never charged me; though someone mentioned they got slammed for doing that somewhere I think in this thread, though, so DHL may not be the duty free option it used to be...
47  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain launches the Z9 Equihash miner on: August 29, 2018, 09:21:30 PM
DHL delivered my batch 2, no customs charges. Smiley

Yet.  I know UPS bills me for the "broker fee".  I have never had customs charges, but every shipment I get hit with a fee

Didn't come from China like my first batch did but rather HK.

Hong Kong is part of China.

Yes, but it's different since the British used to own it (no longer the case). One is a developed market (HK), one is emerging (China) in the MSCI indices. HK has its own legal system and acts separately than mainland China.

True, but this would have no effect on taxes, tariffs, or duties.
48  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain launches the Z9 Equihash miner on: August 29, 2018, 08:51:30 PM
DHL delivered my batch 2, no customs charges. Smiley

Yet.  I know UPS bills me for the "broker fee".  I have never had customs charges, but every shipment I get hit with a fee

Didn't come from China like my first batch did but rather HK.

Hong Kong is part of China.
49  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain launches the Z9 Equihash miner on: August 29, 2018, 08:49:09 PM
Just have it listed as a space heater since profits are down. Otherwise plan ahead and document it if you don't want to deal with delays. 2.8% or bust. We're firm believers that consumers shouldn't pay duties. It's not your fault manufacturing is overseas because US businesses don't want a domestic middle class anymore. Vote and change shit. Off soap box now.

PS. 1 year ROI is a good return for any new business. Mine on.

"We're firm believers that consumers shouldn't pay duties."

This doesn't really make sense (note that I am anti-import tax and duty, just speaking logically). You are buying direct from the manufacturer; this makes you the importer. Normally an importer includes their overall cost and a markup, so you're still getting it cheaper than you would if you didn't pay the duty.

Basically you are always going to pay the duty, because someone in the chain has to (an importer or manufacturer would simply up the price to cover it). Free trade is the only way around that, in which case it doesn't matter if you're the customer or an importer or the manufacturer...
50  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Building Cheap Miners : My "Secret" on: August 28, 2018, 11:50:10 PM
Just a FYI:

eBay has a sitewide 15% off coupon for today only. Limit $100 off

https://pages.ebay.com/promo/2018/0828/67245.html?_trkparms=%26clkid%3D6349278731421267500
Use code: PREGAME15 by 10pm PT

I just picked up two PowerColor Vega 56's for $644.50 (using the $100 off). Total before was $744.50.

My Vega 56's are the only profitable hardware I have right now so getting them at $322.25 each is a bargain.


Seconding the thanks, though I went with a 1080ti. Never would have known about the sale without your post, though!
51  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Z9 list of working pools/Fork updates on: August 28, 2018, 11:48:55 PM
Ok my 2 have been running side by side on 1 x Bitmain PSU and the new one is not wanting to be turned up to 750 like my old one... the hash just dropped off to zero within minuets... had to back it off to 600 the creaped it up to 675.. where its pulling 14.8 sols... could it be power that is not allowing it to be at 750?? il put it on its own PSU and see if it will run 750 ?.....

I think, each unit has slightly different OC ability, so one may run fine at 750, another may do only 700. That's my experience.

Yup. I have one of the very first batch and it maxes at 718/roughy 15.5ksol/h. Hashrate drops off if I go higher.
52  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain launches the Z9 Equihash miner on: August 28, 2018, 10:12:27 PM

Considering the difference in cost, manufacturing, and importing parts? I kinda doubt that'll happen under this regime.
53  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: At what price point people will stop mining? on: August 22, 2018, 12:42:34 AM
I won't stop mining, i love it, it's fun all ways has been. it's a hobby i don't all ways turn on all my stuff, some days i don't run any thing.

it gives me some thing to do that pays something,I'm not in it for the money or ROI . I do hold most coins i mine because maybe one day, I'll need it, other wise it's all fun . I'm also retired with a disability, so i need some thing to do besides play wow and take care of mom who has dementia.


I keep adding to my GPU rigs,an buy old ASIC like D3 etc use them up,despite the down time we see now in coin prices,plus I'm on solar .

I think there's like 200 people on here who would sell you old ASICs. I have a few I was about to list on ebay, actually. Start a "wanted" thread in the marketplace if you're looking, you'll get tons of bites...

(or PM me if you want a list, it's rather short Wink )
54  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: At what price point people will stop mining? on: August 21, 2018, 10:51:37 PM
Well, no, again mathematically it makes a bunch of sense. If you are willing to buy coins daily, it is absolutely more profitable to turn off your miner when it costs more to run than it earns and to spend that money on the coin (or whatever coin you trade for). If you have free electricity, then yeah, zero is the only point where it makes no sense to run, but for the rest of us...

Well, people don't apply mathematics before making such decision.
From their perspective - Why to leave the hardware unused. Unless someone's electricity cost is over hundreds of dollars, it can be seen as just a monthly expense and the mining rewards seen as income. That can be the only reason why people will continue mining rather than applying common sense and buy coins worth their average mining electricity expense daily.
Yes and specially if you dont own big mining farm and dont have high power costs. Like most of the miners who mine from home, doesnt exchange their coins for years. And are gambling and waiting for those big gains.

Sure to both. But I wasn't talking about how people rationalize things, I was merely stating a fact.
55  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Dwarf FPGA – the anti-ASIC on: August 20, 2018, 11:44:13 PM
by saying they/police do not see a intention on dwarfminer side to steal the money from myself

Did they elaborate on what kind of proof would make them change their mind?

BTW this is the right way to do it. Even though you didn't succeed I would encourage everyone who lost money to contact their local law enforcement.

Yep;  this is the proper method to try and get some sort of return from this problem.

But honestly;  I ran out of popcorn about 2 months ago.....

Here yah go, Moar popcorn!



In case you don't know the reference: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/real_genius/


Haha I love that movie so much.

Was it a dream where you see yourself standing in sort of sun-god robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you?
56  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: At what price point people will stop mining? on: August 20, 2018, 11:42:18 PM
oh very hard question, some miner believe to tomorow days and can mine in non profitable points when electricity cost higher then income
The thing that is idiotic - why would you spend $5 of electricity mining to effectively buy $3 of coin everyday with a mining rig.  Stop the miner and spend the $5 to buy $5 of coin on an exchange.

Because you've already invested money in hardware and don't want to sell it at a loss.  Why not do both?  Not having all of your eggs in one basket is nice.

Mathematically that doesn't make sense. If the coin never rebounds, you're just losing money.

I shut mine off when it's been in the negative for more than a couple days. In winter, though, totally different story, as I heat my house with them.

Sure, you have to believe that the coin will rebound.  Or just trade it for bitcoin now and wait several years (hoping that the value of btc will be much much higher).

Totally agree , there is no point shunting down the miners till the coin doesn't go to zero, which dont think is going to happen if you are mining top 10 coins by market cap. They will be trade and manipulated as they reached some very oversold values. Only if they doesnt get hacked or something.

Well, no, again mathematically it makes a bunch of sense. If you are willing to buy coins daily, it is absolutely more profitable to turn off your miner when it costs more to run than it earns and to spend that money on the coin (or whatever coin you trade for). If you have free electricity, then yeah, zero is the only point where it makes no sense to run, but for the rest of us...
57  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain E3 Ethash Miner ASIC (Shipping:16-31 July. $800 USD) on: August 20, 2018, 11:39:37 PM
Can anybody help me please? Why does my E3 not work at full capacity? I attached the photo. I do not understand the error "BB".  https://ibb.co/cdjfYK

BB is a new one on me, it's usually 00 or XX with antminers. Reboot and see if that fixes it, if not I suggest contact Bitmain's support.
58  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: At what price point people will stop mining? on: August 19, 2018, 11:23:11 PM
oh very hard question, some miner believe to tomorow days and can mine in non profitable points when electricity cost higher then income
The thing that is idiotic - why would you spend $5 of electricity mining to effectively buy $3 of coin everyday with a mining rig.  Stop the miner and spend the $5 to buy $5 of coin on an exchange.

Because you've already invested money in hardware and don't want to sell it at a loss.  Why not do both?  Not having all of your eggs in one basket is nice.

Mathematically that doesn't make sense. If the coin never rebounds, you're just losing money.

I shut mine off when it's been in the negative for more than a couple days. In winter, though, totally different story, as I heat my house with them.
59  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: Bitcoin Galaxy A Revolutionary Mineable Ethereum Based Cryptocurrency on: August 17, 2018, 12:56:28 PM
Behind every revolutionary project there is a bunch of freshly registered forum members to praise it on the forums

 Grin Grin

A whole 6 pages of them! That's some serious effort right there.

It was at 7, then dropped to 6, then back to 7, now down to 2.

I would just like to publicly applaud the mods on this board, it can't be easy to try to keep up with such scammer heavy threads and we regulars really appreciate the work y'all do.
60  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ALLMINE INC - FPGA Cryptominer on: August 17, 2018, 12:53:51 PM
I just processed the paypal refunds -- So far we're looking at about 800 boards that we'll reopen sales on later in the month. (only about 150 of those were refund requests, the others were someone who never paid) If you ordered from fpga.land and would like to request a refund you can send an email to sales@fpga.land requesting it. We'll process them ASAP. If you didn't get a chance to purchase a board you will again be able to. You can register on the website at https://fpga.land/ and we'll send out a mass email when sales reopen. We're waiting for Xilinx to give us firm delivery timelines and we will update everyone when we know more.



That is great news as I missed the first round. Smiley
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