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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released? on: January 02, 2018, 09:22:30 PM
They won’t be recalled just failing to meet a deadline.

ya they will, everyone is ganna return them and just get asrock 13gpu boards and get refund on this crap

everyone bought this thinking 19gpus coming soon in decemburr, well guess what it aint happening. so ur stuck with a 13gpu board priced at $300... nice.

Nobody's going to return them and there won't be a recall.  Sometimes development takes more time.  And only an idiot would pay $300 when they are $169 at Newegg.  That's where I got mine.


I am Not returning mine,

I Bought 3 of this Board, all at separate times, and each time I have never paid more than 149 US$ each on Amazon, don't pay the inflated price's you may find elsewhere online, and just watch for when they are in stock, directly shipped and sold by Amazon or NewEgg, and then you will consider this board a great purchase even if it should only be populated up to 13 regular GPU at this point,
42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ASUS B250 Mining Expert MB - 19 Cards! on: December 28, 2017, 02:44:00 AM
Same -  I am currently powering 9 GTX 1070ti SC Hybrids off of one EVGA 1600 t2 Power supply with an at wall outlet power draw of 1370 watts On my Asus B250 Mining Expert running SMOS with overclocking settings of core/200 memory/1400 and my Watts to 136



Can I ask how you got SMoS working every time I plug in a USB with it I get to the Bios page and it says no drive detected. Is there some setting that need changed?

I had the same problem, you will figure this out,
And yes I am running SMOS from a Bootable usb stick, plugged into one of the USB 3.0 slots on the back, (you can try others)
 
BUT, first make sure you wrote the bootable SMOS properly to the USB by powering off a laptop or some other computer, inserting the USB and starting the machine up, and see if Linux starts the boot sequence, if you know your USB is good, then,
 
In your Bios of the B250 Mining expert, under the advanced tab you should find a BOOT tab at the top, under that, you need to turn off Fast Boot and make it regular boot, and then change from the EUFI Boot to Legacy, not the dual option, but the Legacy only, then save the BIOS changes and power off completely, before powering back on, as long as you have a bootable linux USB drive inserted, it should boot, if you mess up any settings, you can always short the BIOS pins on the mother board to bring it back to default, so no worries, and I did upgrade my Bios to the 12/15/2017 version via downloading it onto a completely different USB and flashing the Bios from within the BIOS,

Hopefully this helps, let me know, if it comes down to it, I guess I could go reboot my miner and take a picture of the actual Bios Boot screen settings,

Good Luck!
43  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ASUS B250 Mining Expert MB - 19 Cards! on: December 28, 2017, 12:37:41 AM
Hy Alyeska,

did I got you right, that you supply the risers itself from the PSUs?
Arent the sockets supplied from directly from the PSU?

What us the necessary best power rate (Watt) for the PSUs connected? I couldnt find anything about

What kind of "wifi smart plug" are you using there?

SMOS can report on the phone? via internet or SMS?

Does SMOS work with NVIDIA 1080 ti?


sorry my questions must sound dumb...

Good night


Same -  I am currently powering 9 GTX 1070ti SC Hybrids off of one EVGA 1600 t2 Power supply with an at wall outlet power draw of 1370 watts On my Asus B250 Mining Expert running SMOS with overclocking settings of core/200 memory/1400 and my Watts to 136

and after running for 48 hours of solid up time, I am happy to report that I am getting

========== Sol/s: 4762.0 Sol/W: 3.92 Avg: 4776.0 I/s: 2557.4 Sh: 41.18 0.99 211

THAT'S 529 Sol/w at only 136 watt per card! Perfectly stable on the Asus B250 Mining Expert running SMOS

-------------
I have more cards and Power supplies on the way, and will update if I can get 12 1070ti running soon under SMOS
-------------

I set up the Bios to boot from power restore, and have a wifi smart plug to reboot the machine if I need to remotely, for instance Yesterday I switched the Algorithm I was mining on the fly, while I was not at home yesterday,(actually 40 miles from home) and SMOS hung, so I successfully rebooted remotely (via the wifi smart plug), And SMOS rebooted and happily started reporting into the web interface on my phone that it was mining away at full hash power on the new Algorithm,

I currently really like this board, and believe that Asus will at some point follow through on allowing us to post up with any 19 cards, so I already have purchased two additional B250 Mining Experts, and will began building them out, once I max this first one to it's current potential, which may be 13 cards until an update.

Some notes: I have none of the AUX molex plugged in, those are for people that are not using Powered Riser cards I have been lead to believe, I only have one power supply plugged in, but have my working 9 cards spread out over 2 of the 3 card banks no problem, once again, because the slots work fine if you are supplying the Power via risers (as in the you don't need three power supplies for this board, you could use one, then a Server PSU to power cards etc...

I am still learning more about this board every day , but so far like it, Love the Post screen showing which GPU's are seen at boot up, and which slots, coupled along with Risers that have an LED on them, I feel this will greatly enhance any future trouble shooting to find a bad card, USB cable, Powered Riser, Etc...

Yes SMOS will work with a 1080ti,

all power supplies have different wattage's and qualities IE: GOLD - up to Titanium and can be used to different potentials, plus you need to take into account the outlets breaker and staying below 80% utilization, so on 110 volt 20 Amp circuit breaker outlet, you should not use more than 1920 watts, or you will blow breakers, just an example, your wiring may be different voltage and Amperage, you need to tailor this to your situation,

 I look UP SMOS on my phone via Google Chrome, and stay logged in so that I can administer my miner from anywhere,
https://simplemining.net/

the smart plug I use is this one, it allows me to know a lot about the miner attached, it's up time, current wattage draw, and allows me to turn it on and off again from any where in the world I have an internet or phone connection,
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0178IC5ZY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ASUS B250 Mining Expert MB - 19 Cards! on: December 27, 2017, 11:21:40 PM
Same -  I am currently powering 9 GTX 1070ti SC Hybrids off of one EVGA 1600 t2 Power supply with an at wall outlet power draw of 1370 watts On my Asus B250 Mining Expert running SMOS with overclocking settings of core/200 memory/1400 and my Watts to 136

and after running for 48 hours of solid up time, I am happy to report that I am getting

========== Sol/s: 4762.0 Sol/W: 3.92 Avg: 4776.0 I/s: 2557.4 Sh: 41.18 0.99 211

THAT'S 529 Sol/w at only 136 watt per card! Perfectly stable on the Asus B250 Mining Expert running SMOS

-------------
I have more cards and Power supplies on the way, and will update if I can get 12 1070ti running soon under SMOS
-------------

I set up the Bios to boot from power restore, and have a wifi smart plug to reboot the machine if I need to remotely, for instance Yesterday I switched the Algorithm I was mining on the fly, while I was not at home yesterday,(actually 40 miles from home) and SMOS hung, so I successfully rebooted remotely (via the wifi smart plug), And SMOS rebooted and happily started reporting into the web interface on my phone that it was mining away at full hash power on the new Algorithm,

I currently really like this board, and believe that Asus will at some point follow through on allowing us to post up with any 19 cards, so I already have purchased two additional B250 Mining Experts, and will began building them out, once I max this first one to it's current potential, which may be 13 cards until an update.

Some notes: I have none of the AUX molex plugged in, those are for people that are not using Powered Riser cards I have been lead to believe, I only have one power supply plugged in, but have my working 9 cards spread out over 2 of the 3 card banks no problem, once again, because the slots work fine if you are supplying the Power via risers (as in the you don't need three power supplies for this board, you could use one, then a Server PSU to power cards etc...

I am still learning more about this board every day , but so far like it, Love the Post screen showing which GPU's are seen at boot up, and which slots, coupled along with Risers that have an LED on them, I feel this will greatly enhance any future trouble shooting to find a bad card, USB cable, Powered Riser, Etc...
45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Are 1070 TI's the next best GPU for mining? 4.7 sols per watt on: December 24, 2017, 02:11:45 AM
How do you adjust the power limit as a percentage, I'm using simple mining os and the only power limit options I have myself are the actual wattage draw.  Do I just run these at maximum and then backwardsly work out the percentage ?

QuintLeo broke the wattage down in another 1070ti thread,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2324651.20

Got a suprise this morning - my EVGA SC 1070 ti was on my doorstep when I wasn't expecting it 'till Monday.

 I had already installed the latest 388.13 drivers on my Win7 single-slot "test rig" machine while doing some testing on a new 1080 ti earlier this week, so the test rig was ready to go.
 I HAVE noticed some sluggishness on this machine, but it's a low-end Athlon 5050E dual core with 2 GB of ram so that's not unusual on it (machine was a LOT snappier on XP back in the day).
 Testing on this rig was done in an A/C environment at 80F give or take a degree.

 First thing I notice - the memory clock is WAY LOW, 7600 base clock for some reason. Due to that, this is the first EVGA card I can crank up to "+700" memory in Afterburner and actually have it work - as that's only 9000 actual EFFECTIVE memory clock.
 Boost is NOT limited to the "factory spec" numbers - it's like any other 1070/1080/1080ti it'll boost as high as the power settings and temp let it.
 Default TDP is 180 watts, same as a base 1080 or some higher-TDP 1070 models.
 Another odd thing - Afterburner will let me OVERVOLT the card, but it won't let me UNDERVOLT it at all.

 Did some testing on a copy of Genoil I had left over on that machine from ETH mining days - meh, pretty much the same as a 1070, obviously ETH is seriously memory limited on this card (not unexpected given other widespread reporting).

 Moved to ZEC testing with EBWF.
 Testing methodology - make a change in Afterburner, wait *at least* 2 rounds of EWBF stats posted, THEN average the next 3 stat rounds for the posted numbers.

 At stock settings (except for using my "standard" Afterburner fan profile):
 Hashrate settles in at about 467 sol/s with VERY little variation with the wattage figure in EWBF bouncing between 168 and 180 watts most of the time for an efficiency around 2.6-2.7 range.
 Core is boosting to 1848 Mhz pretty much as a straight line, 62-63C at 64-66% fan.
 Memory rock solid at "3798" (effective 7596).

 Crank the memory up to +700 in Afterburner no other changes:
 Hashrate settles in around 525 sol/s with noticeable variation, power however is pretty solid at 180 watts for efficiency at a little over 2.9
 Core is boosting to between 1810 and 1823 with a lot of bounce between those figures, temp 64C at 68% fan.
 Memory is rock solid at "4498" (effective 8996) and STAYS that way in the rest of the "+700 memory" testing.

 Dial in +200 core clock in Afterburner:
 Hashrate settles in to about 538 sol/s with some variation, power pretty solid at 180, efficiency a bit over 3.
 Core is bouncing some, mostly 1987 with lows down to 1967 and occasional bounces up to 2000. I forgot to check temps, think they bounced up to 65C at 70% fan or so.

 Drop TDP to 90% in Afterburner:
 Hashrate at 540 sol/s and pretty SOLID, power solid at 161 watts for efficiency at 3.38 - and yes, the average hashrate DID GO UP A HAIR vs 100% TDP.
 Core is bouncing 1911 and 1924 with an occasional 1898 or 1937, temp drops to 63C at 66% fan
 
 Drop TDP to 80% in Afterburner:
 Hashrate finally drops to 529 sol/s pretty solid, power pretty solid at 146, efficiency pretty solid at 3.64
 Core bouncing a lot, 1810 to 1873 range, Temp to 60C at 60% fan.

 Drop TDP to 70% in Afterburner:
 Hashrate to 509 sol/s but bouncing some, power pretty solid at 126 watts for efficiency of appx 3.96 with one reading above 4 (517 sol/s)
 Core bouncing in the 1709 to 1759 range, temp 56C at 52% fan.

 Drop TDP to 60% in Afterburner (WATCH THESE FIGURES):
 Hashrate 457 sol/s pretty stable, 103 solid watts, 4.46 efficiency.
 Core bouncing in the 1557 to 1607 range, temp 54C at 48% fan.

 This would be a VERY NICE setting to run a quiet multi-card rig in your BEDROOM, I have to put my head less than 2 feet from the GPU fans to hear them AT ALL.
 This is also THE highest efficiency figure I've seen to date out of ANY card I've owned, and I don't remember seeing a better figure reported (though I might have missed or forgotten a slightly better reported figure somewhere).


 Drop TDP to 50% in Afterburner:
 Core clock drops to under 1200 and the hashrate drops so far the efficiency gets WORSE. Don't go this low on this card.





As of today I am running 9 GTX 1070ti off of one EVGA 1600 T2 power supply, so my settings in simple miner are as follows,

Core
200,200,200,200,200,200,200,200,200
Memory   
700,700,700,700,700,700,700,700,700
Power Limit
136,136,136,136,136,136,136,136,136    with everything mining away, no monitor or keyboard / mouse attached, I am drawing 1,365 Watts at the wall,

getting around
========== Sol/s: 4548.0 Sol/W: 3.72 Avg: 4536.2 I/s: 2425.8 Sh: 49.35 1.00 209
46  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: EVGA 1070Ti Overclock issue on: December 22, 2017, 09:27:48 PM
So I was using smOS the past couple weeks but kept having issues with it staying connected to their web dashboard, although the rig did continue to mine. At first I only had one card connected and OC settings would not take, after installing all three cards the settings started to take just fine. 200 core and 750 mem. Power limit setting also took throughout the whole process at 110 watts.

After taking the OC settings I was up around 501-505 Sol/s.

Well I switched to the newer version of nvOC that Poison released and saw that my OC setting would not take in that OS either. Was stuck around the 450-460 Sol/s mark. Once again though the power limit was taking just fine.

Decided to switch back to smOS for the time being to see if the settings would work again, and now all three cards seem to not be accepting the settings via smOS either. Staying in the 450-460 Sol/s range.


Mobo - Gigabyte Z270P-D3
GPU - 3x EVGA 1070Ti

Any ideas as to what could be causing this? I have not been able to find anything anywhere online.

Thanks!

For SMOS and over clocking a 1070ti are you designating each card individually, if not you should give it a try, here is an example for SMOS, of some Rockstar numbers


for your 3x EVGA 1070ti

Core -200,200,200

Memory -700,700,700

Power Limit - pick one of the following based on your desired efficiency of Sol/s per watt , or tweak the numbers for percentages in between the 10% steps offered here

161,161,161                     90% power getting you top    540 sol/s  3.38 efficiency

146,146,146                     80% power getting you top    529 sol/s  3.64 efficiency

126,126,126                     70% power getting you top     509 sol/s  3.96 efficiency

103,103,103                     60% power getting you top     457 sol/s  4.46 efficiency


I learned and applied this info from QuintLeo's post on the second page, second from the top on this 1070ti thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2324651.20

let us know if this works for you

for example I am running 7 x 1070ti with 1 x 970 mixed in reporting as the card three, but numbering of cards starts at 0 (zero) so the fourth setting in my string reflects the gtx970

SMOS overclock settings
Core
200,200,200,100,200,200,200,200
Memory
700,700,700,600,700,700,700,700
Power Limit
146,146,146,132,146,146,146,146     My Current Settings due to the size of the PSU powering this rig,
47  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [Mining OS] SimpleMining.net - Easy to use GPU MINING Operating System on: December 09, 2017, 05:56:20 AM
Yes, Lyra2rev2 please,
Lyra2rev2 is the only reason I am thinking of running windows on my new miner, and would use Simple Mining if it was supported...
48  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT - AUXPWR_A1/A2/A3 question? on: December 03, 2017, 11:04:27 PM
In the setup manual for "ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT" motherboard, the very first step is to power up all three (AUXPWR_A1/A2/A3 must be plugged in the same power supply plugged in the 24-pin EATXPWR_A connector)
 and yet the only miners I have seen up and running 19 cards do not have any power plugged into the AUXPWR_A1/A2/A3 connectors, is this because if you are using powered risers there would be a voltage conflict? or that with powered risers the motherboard simply does not need the PCIe slots to be powered directly on board? I am confused and would really like an explanation of this,

Here is a video link that I forwarded to the point in the video directly before they pan down to show the working motherboard, and you will see them zoom in on the board with nothing plugged into the AUXPWR_A1/A2/A3 connectors,

https://youtu.be/7Y_ICdwoZrs?t=172


why is powering these connectors listed as the first step by Asus, but not used by actual operating miners?
49  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Powering x6 1070 properly on: December 02, 2017, 07:51:13 AM
My setup:
- x6 GTX 1070
- 1600 Watt PSU with x6 (6+2 and 6+2), x5 (stuff with bunch of molex and SATA adapters);
- x6 risers with 6pin
- So far tried to put one of x6 6+2 to power each GPU, use of of SATA adapter to power the 1 riser

Problem:
- It looks like SATA adapters would sometimes try to melt, because when I power on the PSU - it would shut down immediately (I even smelled burned plastic once).

Possible solution:
- Can I just use both 6+2 adapter of each cable, and just put 8pin to power GPU, while use the other 6pin with 6pin extender to power the riser? Will the 6+2, 6+2 cable handle this?



See this image for what I mean:



P.S. Just to be crystal clear: 1 SATA --> 1 riser seems to be fine. But once I try to use 2 SATA on the same cable to power 2 risers (1 SATA to each riser) - the rig power would sometimes not start, and auto halt. I have only 5 SATA/Molex cables vs 6 (6+2, 6+2) cables - so I am 1 cable short for powering 6th riser.

If you smelled burnt plastic, you have probably damaged one or more connectors on your PSU. Since we're not there to judge, we don't know if that damage is likely to cause problems or not, but I just wanted to mention this first.


Anyhow, you should definitely be fine using the PCIe power cables in the way you described*, powering one 8-pin connection to a card, and a 6-pin riser. In theory, you'd be fine loading both 6(+2) connectors on the same cable, but only loading one 8 pin and a 6 pin is obviously a safer bet.
*Under the assumption that you have decent-quality 6-pin extenders.

The SATA-spec is for a lower current than 4-pin molex connectors and PCIe connectors. Powering multiple risers from the same line of SATA connectors is not recommended, if you're even planning on powering your risers with SATA power at all. Additionally, 4 pin molex connectors seem to handle going over-spec much better than SATA, so if 6-pin PCIe connectors are not an option, try to use molex adapters.

I'm not sure what motherboard you are using, but have you considered plugging one card directly into the board's physical PCIe x16 slot? (Of course, on many boards this removes access to a PCIe slot directly below...)

I currently am in the process of building a nearly identical design, I ordered an EVGA 1600 T2, which has 9 VGA slots, which can each power an 8 pin, plus 6 pin, and I plan to go with GTX 1070 TI's which will take the 8 pin, and risers that support 6 pin, thus having each VGA slot power one Card and riser each,

Suffice it to say, but I will be following this thread!
50  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: EZ 6x 1080 TI GPU Mining Rig Build 4400 Sols / 1 PSU on: December 01, 2017, 03:01:35 AM
Question about that EVGA 1600 T2,
If I was to use GTX 1070 TI's could I use each of the VGA power slots to power both the 8 pin on the 1070 TI card, and use the six pin to power the Riser? with just one of the VGA slots?
thus allowing that one power supply to power 9 (undervolted) 1070 TI's along with 9 risers using only the available VGA slots?
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