I really hate to bump this thread, but in the interest of full disclosure, I have recieved two emails from them regarding my previous cancelled order. The first:


And the second, from intellogence, who somebody asked about earlier I believe:


I have no intention of sending them any money, but as it is part of the story, it seems right to include it. The link goes to invoice.authorize.net/invoicing/ui/#/(an adress) which appears to be a server using microsoft rather than any payment processor I'm aware of. To get further requires entering your cc info, and I'm not going there again. I'm almost 100% sure this is a scam.

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I used to think ASICs were way better but I actually worked out that each one of my 8 gb rx580s gives me the equivalent earnings per day as 2 T/Hs of my bitmain ASICs. I'm small time I guess, but I want coins, and I don't want to pay cash for them. And I enjoy the selection process, reading about coins, selecting coins, targeting coins, and of course, mining coins. And HODLing coins, that too. And watching the prices of coins I have but have no intention of selling. And scouring the interwebs for gpu deals. Hell I guess I like pretty much all of it, even some of the stuff I bitch about sometimes.

My bitcoin ASICs are also limited to sha256, while my gpus can be pulled out of my btc operation at anytime if I see a need or desire.  I was getting and holding everything new, still holding them, but trying nh for a month. It's kind of a trap having worked this out, because I enjoy alt coins, it's more interesting and fun in a way. My ASICs just run, check the heat/air, check in every so often, and that's it, they just run. But my real goal is bitcoin, and now that I know how much capacity I can add using my gpus, it's going to be hard to keep them off of it.

I don't know if that's a self fulfilling prophecy or what, but that's what happened. Why? I'm not talking abut mining altcoins, I'm talking about my bitcoin operation, and the best way to expand it. My plans had always revolved around ASICs and slowly growing my capacity by adding machines over time when possible. Now this literally changes my thinking, gpus have many other advantages, less heat/power/noise, the ability to be added more frequently in smaller amounts, allowing for faster growth and more flexibility. WTF does it have to do with altcoins? I mean sure, I mentioned zclassic in passing, but that's ancillary. I guess it doesn't matter but it seems more relevant to those pursuing bitcoin than to the altcoin community. Whatever, you were right.
Cheers!

So phillipma57 who seems pretty smart said on another thread that gpus were more profitable. I thought that sounded kind of crazy, but I'm a noob, so I didn't say anything. That was probably about a month ago. A couple of days ago I was undecided what to do with my gpus after the zclassic snapshot, I had been on the donate pool for feb, so I put it on nicehash while I thought it over. I had never put my gpus there, but I was suprised at my earnings. I'm getting .0006688 a day on  four 8gb rx580s. That means each card is getting .0001672 btc per day.
My ASICs are doing about .00008361 per T/Hs per day. So multiply that by 2, and 2 T/Hs on my ASICs is .00016722 per day.

1 8gb 580 = .00016720
2 T/Hs ASIC = .00016722

I was way suprised. My 4 580s are earning the equivalent of 8 T/Hs on nh. I guess I just assumed that since you couldn't mine bitcoin with gpus anymore, that was that. So I'm not mining btc. But I still get it. That works. I'm adding the equivalent of 8 T/Hs to my small operation. I have to reconsider now my plan to expand my ASICs. This is giving me a lot to think about.       

Shamoon sounds a lot like Shlaimoun, the disgraced husband of Oussha, and known huckster, whose name was on one of the many credit card processors they have used so far. see here:

http://shockermichaelmooreflsfordivorce.blogspot.com/2014/04/white-collared-mining-technologies-vs.html?m=1

When I first read that a while back I thought it was insane. But my alt coin rig (4 rx 580s, 8gb)
 is pulling in .00064576 btc a day on nh. That's the equivalent of adding  8 T/Hs capacity to my ASICs. Now I see what you mean. I paid 269 for 2 and 313 for the other 2, so about 1200, and I just frankensteined them onto my existing gaming pc. Compared to a 6.5 or 9 T ASIC that's far cheaper and more profitable.

I don't think what you said is so crazy anymore.

Speaking as one who tried everything else first and ended up getting 220, I would suggest you skip the in between and just get the 220. I had 2 circuits 2 outlets each for a total of 4, electrician charged 750 USD including the stock he used. I live in the expensive northeast and my house is 120 years old. The converters I bought that were terrible cost almost as much and I had to sell them at a big loss.I hope you get your units.

I could care less if Sig campaigns fail and die. In fact I prefer it.

You're right of course, the real problem is all the posters doing "Will btc rise toxxx" type threads just for sig clicks. It's just another hustle. I worry that the merits will be another one. Already I have been accused of starting a thread to earn merit. And there's the larger problem in a nutshell,  too many hustlers. So many people are trying to hustle everybody else. That makes everyone suspicious. It's like walking down a street filled with people doing 3 card Monty and the shell game, hustling the tourists for singles. Throw in a couple of people selling watches.

A helpful poster on another thread explained to me that you can choose not to see the annoying campaign sigs by clicking a box in your user profile. I hadn't realized that. Works great.

sank fast. Nobody needs gpus?

I loaded up already, tipped a few friends, there seems to be plenty. I bought 8gb 580s for 313 free shipping. 1080t1s for 729.

have at it

you're welcome

Oh yeah...... soooooo much better. Thanks again.

What an extreme aggressive OP! Most of what you wrote are right, but I am really curious about your objectives to start the topic. Is it for merit hunting? 
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I don't want anybodys merits or satoshis. I'm not selling anything. I was just annoyed today. And I really really hate sig campaigns. And I especially hate hate hate taking someone seriously, then halfway through posting I realize it's just a sig troll looking for clicks.

Cobalt937 Thank you, that's actually very helpful.

I'm with the op, ban the stupid things, they suck. They're annoying, and I hate them. They generate mondo stupidity. I feel bad for people that need money but enough is enough already. They're making money by annoying the crap out of me. And when I see a thread by a sig banner poster, my first thought is "sig campaign bait". It's like all the fud btc "news" stories on the interwebz, just there as clickbait. Get rid of them. 

I wish we could get rid of them all. I hate the stupid huge banner when I'm reading. I hate the stupid posts and stupid threads written just to get sig views. I hate having to scroll down past them. I hate having them on the screen, blasts of useless eyecatching colors in between the posts I want to read. I hate having to try and decide if the poster is stupid, ignorant, in need of help, or just trying to earn a few satoshis.
 I hate hate HATE them.
Ban them all.
Forever.

I wrote earlier in this thread that it was going to be a sha256 coin, that was wrong, in case anybody was misled, apologies, still equihash.

You could eliminate a lot of crap around here by simply banning signature campaigns. They drive useless posts like the clickbait sites drive the fake news.

Governments seek 2 things, power and control. Every "problem" they identify, they have the same solution... more government power, more government control. For your own good, of course.