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41  Other / Off-topic / Re: Conscience on: September 29, 2014, 05:29:59 PM
By the way, you have been implicitly stating that the Creator exists. As it says in Romans, the knowledge of the Creator is inherent in us - as much as we seek to kill that.
Whatever feeds your delusions.
While this is not the best, it is a pretty good definition of your problems....

A delusion, in everyday language, is a fixed belief that is either false, fanciful, or derived from deception. Psychiatry defines the term more specifically as a belief that is pathological (the result of an illness or illness process). As a pathology, it is distinct from a belief based on false or incomplete information, apperception, illusion, or other effects of perception.

Delusions typically occur in the context of neurological or mental illness, although they are not tied to any particular disease and have been found to occur in the context of many pathological states (both physical and mental). However, they are of particular diagnostic importance in psychotic disorders and particularly in schizophrenia, paraphrenia, manic episodes of bipolar disorder, and psychotic depression.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusion
42  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 'Best solution’: Elderly Belgium couple plan joint euthanasia on: September 29, 2014, 05:25:46 PM
As long as intellect is lively, I want to hang around to increase understanding of the world, existence, humankinds relationship to it.  To see what happens next.  When curiosity and life of the mind is no longer possible then I would want to take that last great adventure.  Read something recently by MC Beaton, into her '80s still writing mystery novels on her approach to life.  It was "Stop projecting. Tomorrow is a mystery.  Life is not a rehearsal.  I am on stage today'. Memorized it, a good daily reminder.
43  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 'Best solution’: Elderly Belgium couple plan joint euthanasia on: September 29, 2014, 05:20:42 PM
When I was 25, I didn't envision myself living past sixty;  now that I'm 47; my outlook has changed.  I think I'm rather typical, when you are young, the future seems to stretch on forever---  the older you get-- the quicker time passes,  and your remaining years seem pitiful short.  I hope that couple didn't leave anything to their wonderful children.
I comfort myself with denial, "Old" is always 10 years older than you are.  :-)
 
When young, I was always conscious that one day, barring accident or fatal illness, I would get old too, and be so for a good portion of life.  Also aware, increasingly so in '30s that the way I regarded old people, the stereotypes I held, would form my own self image. All the "you old bag/hag," all the jokes about senility, all the patronizing, would inform personal identity, how I thought about myself.  Accordingly I looked for the role models in good, the wise, the still-engaged, the strong in adversity.  The Georgia O'Keefes, Beatrice Woods, Mother Theresas.  Even aesthetically, finding a beauty in weathered and 'craggy' (as males are often called, insteady of crone-like, wrinkly or wizened). 

Are there cranky, nasty, greedy elderly?  Well of course and in plentiful, cantakerous supply.  I maintain the vast majority of these were always nasty and greedy, perhaps less inhibited and better able to camouflage their natures.  Less attractively, according to youthful standards, packaged. 

Ageism, unlike other prejudices, will be its own punishment in the end.

I think that mental preparation has paid off.  Luck and genes has something to do with it too.  I seriously don't feel whatever I thought this age would 'feel like'.  If health were poor, sight were dim and step weren't sure, it might. 
44  Other / Off-topic / Re: Conscience on: September 29, 2014, 05:09:49 PM
Here me this: you can not spread lies and keep a clear conscience.you know you perpetuate lies.you're not fooling anyone...if you killed someone your guilty !

Absolutely good point. If you lie about anything, part of your subconscious believes the lie itself. Part recognizes the lie for what it is. This produces a contradiction within. Is this contradiction what guilt really is? Is it the contradiction that wears on you, causing cycles of feedback in your brain until your brain can't properly direct your body anymore? Is this the real reason behind why we get old and die... we kill ourselves with lies?

Smiley
Someone's conscience is obviously bothering them.For someone who murdered - what can they do to deal with the guilt that can follow?  Only thing that works is the blood of Christ.
If one has wronged another and suffers a guilty conscience, the only thing that can help is true remorse and possibly seeking forgiveness from the one who has been wronged. Obviously no one can seek forgiveness from a dead person, but possibly showing true remorse and seeking forgiveness from the victim's loved ones might be an option.
So, you admit you don't know what to do about such guilt?Hmmmm....Yet millions testify to the effectiveness of the blood of Christ.
I'm willing to bet you paid good money to have yourself turned into an brainless fool. No one becomes as utterly stupid as you for free. You must have had professional help.
45  Other / Off-topic / Re: Conscience on: September 29, 2014, 04:51:21 PM
Quote
Someone's conscience is obviously bothering them.
Obviously it's you. You have wronged many, but you show no remorse, yet believe your myths and fairy tales absolve you of guilt, but you're just as guilty as you ever were.
But I don't blame You.....
46  Other / Off-topic / Re: Conscience on: September 29, 2014, 04:37:30 PM
Here me this: you can not spread lies and keep a clear conscience.you know you perpetuate lies.you're not fooling anyone...if you killed someone your guilty !

Absolutely good point. If you lie about anything, part of your subconscious believes the lie itself. Part recognizes the lie for what it is. This produces a contradiction within. Is this contradiction what guilt really is? Is it the contradiction that wears on you, causing cycles of feedback in your brain until your brain can't properly direct your body anymore? Is this the real reason behind why we get old and die... we kill ourselves with lies?

Smiley
Someone's conscience is obviously bothering them.For someone who murdered - what can they do to deal with the guilt that can follow?  Only thing that works is the blood of Christ.
If one has wronged another and suffers a guilty conscience, the only thing that can help is true remorse and possibly seeking forgiveness from the one who has been wronged. Obviously no one can seek forgiveness from a dead person, but possibly showing true remorse and seeking forgiveness from the victim's loved ones might be an option.
47  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [SCAM] BT user zolace on: September 29, 2014, 04:17:17 PM
Like KWH said, post the TxID...

The tx ID wont prove anything if the accuser Photoshop a message using his own txID, he could have sent it to himself and messages can be Photoshop as well, seen this scam before.  If the accuser shows that he sent funds to the profile bitcoin address that is listed in his profile, then the accused is a scammer, if he cant show that, then is a false accusation.   Am I right?   I think i caught on the new scamming trick lol
48  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [SCAM ALERT]: MICHAEL MORIARTY/moriartybitcoin/BitLaunder.com Stole $80K From Me on: September 29, 2014, 03:57:03 PM
I think I might know this guy, Let me see If can help get the info for you.
49  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [SCAM] BT user zolace on: September 29, 2014, 03:03:28 PM
I bought from zolace before and never had any issues, this is not the first time I seen false accusation against him.  The last user photoshop the message.  Let me see if I can find that thread.
50  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 'Best solution’: Elderly Belgium couple plan joint euthanasia on: September 29, 2014, 09:37:49 AM
I have always thought euthanasia a personal option, a Constitutional right emphasized in the 10th Amendment, not to be infringed upon by the well meaning, but not in my shoes people who oppose it.

Many questions arise, even here where the couple has decided for themselves, about the beneficiaries.....cold and calculated son's response "best solution".   Yikes, hope my children keep that opine to themselves.
51  Other / Politics & Society / 'Best solution’: Elderly Belgium couple plan joint euthanasia on: September 29, 2014, 09:33:15 AM
An octogenarian Belgian couple has chosen to end their lives through assisted suicide rather than risk the chance of dying alone. Their children have reportedly backed their decision.


http://rt.com/news/191280-assisted-suicide-belgium-couple/


 Francis, 89, and Anne, 86, neither of whom are terminally ill, have received the full support of their three adult children, who say they would be unable to care for either parent if they were to be widowed, the Daily Mail reports.
52  Other / Politics & Society / Re: RFK Jr. Overheats at Climate Change March on: September 29, 2014, 09:27:07 AM
 Kennedy, like many totalitarian liberals, says "I'm right, and if you disagree with me you should be in jail."     

Robert Kennedy Jr., Aspiring Tyrant
He’d like to charge the Kochs with treason and send climate-change dissenters to jail.

Blissfully unaware of how hot the irony burned, Robert Kennedy Jr. yesterday took to a public protest to rail avidly in favor of censorship. The United States government, Kennedy lamented in an interview with Climate Depot, is not permitted by law to “punish” or to imprison those who disagree with him — and this, he proposed, is a problem of existential proportions. Were he to have his way, Kennedy admitted, he would cheer the prosecution of a host of “treasonous” figures — among them a number of unspecified “politicians”; those bętes noires of the global Left, Kansas’s own Koch Brothers; “the oil industry and the Republican echo chamber”; and, for good measure, anybody else whose estimation of the threat posed by fossil fuels has provoked them into “selling out the public trust.” Those who contend that global warming “does not exist,” Kennedy claimed, are guilty of “a criminal offense — and they ought to be serving time for it.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/388595/robert-kennedy-jr-aspiring-tyrant-charles-c-w-cooke
53  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do You Believe The Bible To Be Historically Accurate? on: September 29, 2014, 09:12:21 AM
There are things many of us adults cannot understand, that some adults can do.  Do you understand how to put together a Cray computer?

And, we are all dust before Him who created the World by his Word.  It really is a silly objection, if one thinks about it.
And so is your objection to the objection! Zolace's way of explaining inexplicable things is to say "because" and he expects this to be seen as adequate.

Which indicates he is deluded.
What else could you expect from someone who, when presented with facts as to the errors and other discrepancies in the bible, clamps his hands over his ears and screams, "Is Not!", and believes it's a valid argument?
54  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do You Believe The Bible To Be Historically Accurate? on: September 29, 2014, 08:27:58 AM
Do you believe  Dr. Seuss' "How the Grinch Stole Christmas" is historically accurate? Does it matter to you if it's not?
I fixed your typos for you. You're welcome. Wink

Oh, and no, it doesn't matter to me. I still like the story.  Cheesy
Thanks!   Wink
55  Other / Off-topic / Re: Conscience on: September 28, 2014, 05:48:30 PM
Riddle Me This, Mr.Bitty.....
Having carnal thoughts about your female co-worker in the next cubicle that she knows nothing about, yet you feel guilty...  Who do you ask forgiveness of? Have you committed a "sin"?

If you murder someone, who do you ask forgivness of when you feel guilty of your actions?  Your "creator"?
What happens when the loved-ones of your victim refuse to forgive you?   Do you still go to Hell?
56  Other / Off-topic / Re: Conscience on: September 28, 2014, 05:41:10 PM
Guilt, for example, that comes from murdering someone, or raping someone.Now, of course, any of the above actions can be done, without someone feeling guilty.  As discussed earlier, one can damage one's conscience.
You come across as one too immature to fathom such things. You want to lump all the things you consider "sin" into one package and have a one-size-fits-all solution that makes all the bad stuff go away.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
I doubt you've ever murdered anyone, nor have you raped, etc.  Probably the worst thing you've ever done is think carnal thoughts about the woman in the next cubical.

Life doesn't work that way, nor does your religious bullshit.
57  Other / Off-topic / Re: Conscience on: September 28, 2014, 05:27:55 PM
Feeling guilty because your belief in myths and fairy tales says you should feel guilty even though you've done nothing wrong it just stupid.
58  Other / Off-topic / Re: Conscience on: September 28, 2014, 05:24:26 PM
Feel free to start a thread if you think you can back those claims.  It may not be out of place for you to have introduced the Bible in that thread, but, it is likely that it would distract from the subject of the thread.
You don't debate well. You just ask nonsense questions...and eventually say "Go read the Bible."...............Boring.
This thread in particular is more about discussing the facts of conscience.

If I said the sun is shining, what is there to debate about?  Same with the conscience.  We all have it, we all damage it.


Now, when I post the cure, I can see there being a debate about that.
What you'll do is post a whole lot's o' religious bullshit that you can't back-up in any meaningful way, and then demand everyone else prove you wrong.
There is artificial guilt as well as real guilt.

it is interesting that driver thinks that if someone murders and rapes, then feels guilty, that it is artificial guilt.  But, I don't think he is alone in this.
He said nothing about the guilt of murder or rape, he is talking about religious nitwits who believe they are born with the sins of man on their backs and then they have to turn to religion to try to fix it.  In other words, he is talking about you.

My conscience is undamaged.  I have nothing to feel guilty about.
Criminals who commit crimes against others should feel guilty for their crimes. No one is disputing that. It's too bad that many sociopaths have no conscience, thus they feel no guilt about anything, but that's another issue.
59  Other / Off-topic / Re: Conscience on: September 28, 2014, 02:50:07 PM
When you artificially create guilt, you resort to artificial means to cure it. If you are as you are, predisposed to believe yourself "guilty" of something (even though you never did anything to feel guilty about!) you resort to the same bullshit cure that caused you to feel guilty in the first place.
60  Other / Off-topic / Re: Conscience on: September 28, 2014, 02:43:31 PM
Feel free to start a thread if you think you can back those claims.  It may not be out of place for you to have introduced the Bible in that thread, but, it is likely that it would distract from the subject of the thread.
You don't debate well. You just ask nonsense questions...and eventually say "Go read the Bible."...............Boring.
This thread in particular is more about discussing the facts of conscience.

If I said the sun is shining, what is there to debate about?  Same with the conscience.  We all have it, we all damage it.


Now, when I post the cure, I can see there being a debate about that.
What you'll do is post a whole lot's o' religious bullshit that you can't back-up in any meaningful way, and then demand everyone else prove you wrong.
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