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hahaha i saw the same thing....
so can jhansen tell us why such childish behavior is always allowed ?
the gang up mentality of when ppl see what appears a new person in the chat.... they just gan up and hound them
why is this type of behavior allowed?
So... we should... ban them? Lol - a few of the people here are constantly saying anyone who say something wrong are banned. They're not, but seems you want them to. did him or I say ban them? No you let childish insults like that tossed around all day and it has been going on for a LOOOOONG Time... everyone even in froggers corner says how don't go into general etc etc cause it is a SHIT show that is allowed... basically its bullying, its ALLOWED but DO NOT dare ask a question about the coin... i have watched it so many times myself... NEVER are the ppl screaming bannnn and fuuuuuudddd are told to calm down, just the person who now is trying to defend himself and even saying hey i didnt mean that etc etc so the question is why is it allowed and no one is allowed to question whats happened to their investment? that exact gang up mentality is what gets most ppl banned, but the ppl clearly blowing everything out of context are the ones who are basically encouraged to do so because of no repercussions it has been stated here several times how most bans end up happening.... someone asking a question, a member taking it out of context and the shit show begins with everyone out of nowhere ganging up on that person who ends up NOW having to defend himself and who now ends up angry and he is the one banned, all when 80% of the time the person is just asking a question but i say kick EVERYONE involved so it is fair ... NOT ban everyone who speaks up anyone else agree with what i have said here? or seen the same things happening? or has it happened to you? I second that!!! let everyone back in... you guys want a second, third , fourth who know how many things that have went wrong since thanksgiving... but you guys want a seconds chance.... if ppl's biggest complaint is being banned.... SOLVE IT and give ppl the seconds chance that you guys Demand As I have summed up before, almost all of the not-so-many bans are very deserved, and will not be reversed. And how many are complaining about bans, 4-5 people? You guys blow it way out of proportion. Again: Anyone who feel undeservedly banned, can just send me a message, and we'll try to work it out. there you have it.... a solution and you refuse it.... its def more than 4-5 ppl but hey it is it what it is, you want everyone to give you guys all the benefit of the doubt but none for anyone else.... i know i for one never did anything so dastardly look it up show a screenshot of my banning.... about Oct 1 - 8th somewhere... and see for yourself if what i got banned for was NOT me asking a question about what was going on with the price of BURST and because it has been so long i forgot the whole thing but sure love to see it |
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so the question is why is it allowed and no one is allowed to question whats happened to their investment?
I'm tired of that lie. Very few have been banned for "asking questions", and I have asked anyone who feel wrongfully banned to contact me. 3 people have contacted me. 3! And they are all back in. But by all means, keep spreading that lie so more people read it and become afraid of buying so you can't get any value to your coins. lies? why is it so many of us all have seen and been a part of this if they are lies? everyone just thought hey lets make up this lie of being banned ?? see your not listening to what i said.... its not the question that gets them banned.... it starts out by a innocent question and then the mob comes in and bashes the hell out of that person and that leads to a fight, that then leads to that person banned not the group who jumped on the person who asked the question.... i am involved in several discord channels that all have the same experience and have seen the way your community acts... i can take screenshots all day about these actions, would it still be a lie? so you guys expect EVERYONE to give you a second chance after all this fiasco.... then you let every person ever banned back in and not by request just go in the settings and un ban them ALL .... give those ppl the 2nd chance your team EXPECTS then when someone is banned screenshot it and why, then guess what you can then prove that these are lies... |
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hahaha i saw the same thing....
so can jhansen tell us why such childish behavior is always allowed ?
the gang up mentality of when ppl see what appears a new person in the chat.... they just gan up and hound them
why is this type of behavior allowed?
So... we should... ban them? Lol - a few of the people here are constantly saying anyone who say something wrong are banned. They're not, but seems you want them to. did him or I say ban them? No you let childish insults like that tossed around all day and it has been going on for a LOOOOONG Time... everyone even in froggers corner says how don't go into general etc etc cause it is a SHIT show that is allowed... basically its bullying, its ALLOWED but DO NOT dare ask a question about the coin... i have watched it so many times myself... NEVER are the ppl screaming bannnn and fuuuuuudddd are told to calm down, just the person who now is trying to defend himself and even saying hey i didnt mean that etc etc so the question is why is it allowed and no one is allowed to question whats happened to their investment? that exact gang up mentality is what gets most ppl banned, but the ppl clearly blowing everything out of context are the ones who are basically encouraged to do so because of no repercussions it has been stated here several times how most bans end up happening.... someone asking a question, a member taking it out of context and the shit show begins with everyone out of nowhere ganging up on that person who ends up NOW having to defend himself and who now ends up angry and he is the one banned, all when 80% of the time the person is just asking a question but i say kick EVERYONE involved so it is fair ... NOT ban everyone who speaks up anyone else agree with what i have said here? or seen the same things happening? or has it happened to you? |
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hahaha i saw the same thing....
so can jhansen tell us why such childish behavior is always allowed ?
the gang up mentality of when ppl see what appears a new person in the chat.... they just gan up and hound them
why is this type of behavior allowed?
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by implementing the fmn before block 80 k you broke your promise and stole b3 from the stakers dont try to spin it your way this isnt
discord where you can ban people who dont agree with you your team scammed those coins just be a man and admit the obvious
Changing the roadmap to address potential disastrous previously unseen consequences is very far away from 'stole b3 from stakers'. Please look past your own immediate interest and take a high level viewpoint. The changes that were made drastically reduced the inflation of the coin, something that was much needed or the project would have ended up with a total supply multiple times larger than what we are now. The B3 team made the right choice that was needed to preserve the long term health of the project and therefore the investment of all investors. If the roadmap was ever to be changed, that should have been announced well in advance and done properly. What the investors experienced was a sudden and unannounced change in the roadmap.That is simply not acceptable, but worse.. the team lied that they were in negotiations with the #1 wallet... you can't just freeze someones coins no matter how many they have because you created a system that allowed that to happen. If someone with a lot of coins agreed to have some of their coins frozen which what was told to us by 'ethical' Jamie Woodruff... that would be okay but we know now from Ergo that Jamie and team had no idea who the #1 wallet was.. they kept changing their mind who that person was, with nothing negotiated.. but they went ahead and froze their coins anyways.. that does amount to stealing.. and it was the conclusion the now 'banned from discord for asking questions' CEO of Cryptopia came to, resulting in the Cryptopia delisting of the coin. When you are managing millions of dollars you have to act and behave responsibly, this isn't kids play, you can't just change the roadmap.. release new wallets, or freeze peoples coins without informing investors well in advance. And as for unseen consequences.. unless you had your eyes wide shut in discord.. anyone could see this 10,000% interest was going to create huge coin inflation... it was after all by design.. the same with the #1 wallet.. it was so clear the largest wallet was compounding such that obviously they would eventually have the majority share of the coins. There was ample time to either announce a roadmap change weeks in advance or simply wait as Greedy John rightly said until the high staking period was over. The high staking could have simply continued and the kB3 implemented at block 82k and you would have had a stable coin and none of the drama. Changing the roadmap... in the end, is what created disastrous previously unforseen consequences.. YES, I AGREE. We would still have a STABLE coin, with market cap exceeding $50m, if the code was just left alone. There was no stable coin late in the 10 000% period. The wallets got so large that they caused mini forks all the time, and something had to be done. No, you are mixing up events. Until the introduction of a new wallet that attempted (but failed) to gain consensus for an upgrade to launch the fundamental nodes before block 82k, the blockchain was stable and all exchanges were operating. Of course coin inflation was causing a price decrease over time and had been for weeks, but this was expected and by design. For many who bought in early the price decrease was offset by the massive gains due to the coin interest. All the blockchain forks began with the introduction of the new wallets often without any notice whatsoever, leaving people running the wrong wallet version, losing coins, and with exchanges going down (still down in some cases). The original code itself was written well and it was the recent mucking around just before block 80k that started all this mess. Its incredible the team continues to deny their mistakes. At least a team that admits failure can learn from its mistakes, can be honest with their investors, and can then move forward. That does not seem to be the case here and that does not bode well for the future of this coin. I would suggest the team get another spokesperson like Kdog to speak here. She at least has integrity. You can question my integrity, however if I have made a statement which has errors, I am willing to correct it shown the proof of it. That the mini forks happened before the release of the new wallets, is a fact. The start of the mini forks was not caused by those wallets, it is true that they did nothing to prevent it still happening, but they were not the cause. There are folks frustrated that B3 is not moving up in price and issues concerning the new wallet update has arisen, what is happening with CE updating the the wallets its been days. Also going back to those that claim the b3 team are scamming, please feel free to provide evidence for these baseless accusations, I can see an effort being made in by the team to resolve issues with the coin, you look at b3 discord its one of the most interactive communities i have seen, so to be bashing the coin and showing your frustrations on here that is a sign of weakness, these types of investment come with major risk attached to it especially investing in the last month or so, but the reward will be immense, im sure of it too much work is being done behind the scenes I can tell, so for those of you showing your frustrations on here simple thing is to sell, sell your coins at a loss and move on, but for those of you that still have hope hold everything, we will see the greatest rise ever in 2018 that I am sure of god willing. have you read the "baseless" claims? the majority of who have posted have put out FACTS and then come the idea it was a scam... am i saying its a scam? No not yet.... but the facts are the facts and if they do not of did not want all this FUD or accusations they should have came here or discord right away and try to help but instead they went into hiding and banning ppl that is what set off the panic. after thing got screwed up the 1st day or so... roll the code back and get back where it was working, and test on the testnet if they dont want to be labeled scammers then 1.) show us where all the 60% of our staking went b4 the 80,000 Block 2.) show us these mini forks 3.) why some heads up was NOT given about the FMN starting early... because it would have gave ppl to make a decision to stay with the coin or not. cause whether you like it or not the scenario was basically hey we are going to freeze this wallet #1 , start the FMN like 2000 blocks ahead. and really nothing you can do about it. there was 2 staking pools holding prob upwards to 50-60% of the remaining coins. so those were put on lock down.... then cryptopia problems, more coins locked down.... Coinexchang.io more coins locked down... yobit i think was not working b4 this prob 60% or more of total supply was LOCKED down... hardly anyone could do a damn thing about it... hardly anyone was allowed to make a decision because they could NOT move their coins. did they think "hey we will do FMN early and everyone will be so thrilled and forget we are seizing the #1 wallets coins" ? whatever the case may be it backfired. everyone tosses out risk... the risk to us was NOT present till the team made these sudden what look liked a non calculated decisions without informing the community they claim they cherish so highly and sorry the bans were 80% ppl upset about losing their money and rightfully so... if you were not screaming lambos and the moon... every thing else was met by bannnnn fuuudddd... leading the team to ban, because they thought you were causing problems more so by all the ppl kissing ass trying to be helpers etc blowing the comments out of context and proportion that the mods and helpers banned cause they thought you were causing issues when in reality, ppl just wanting some info if you can discount any of that, then i ask you PLEASE show us facts to the contrary i agree we now let them sort it out, i am for one HOPE they do i have a lot invested... but do not come here and say what they did was prob not the best of decisions.... you mess with ppl's money it will NEVER turn out good till it is fixed... again i have like 175 + million coins i hope it does get back up to 1, 10 or even 25 SATS in next few months. |
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by implementing the fmn before block 80 k you broke your promise and stole b3 from the stakers dont try to spin it your way this isnt
discord where you can ban people who dont agree with you your team scammed those coins just be a man and admit the obvious
Changing the roadmap to address potential disastrous previously unseen consequences is very far away from 'stole b3 from stakers'. Please look past your own immediate interest and take a high level viewpoint. The changes that were made drastically reduced the inflation of the coin, something that was much needed or the project would have ended up with a total supply multiple times larger than what we are now. The B3 team made the right choice that was needed to preserve the long term health of the project and therefore the investment of all investors. If the roadmap was ever to be changed, that should have been announced well in advance and done properly. What the investors experienced was a sudden and unannounced change in the roadmap.That is simply not acceptable, but worse.. the team lied that they were in negotiations with the #1 wallet... you can't just freeze someones coins no matter how many they have because you created a system that allowed that to happen. If someone with a lot of coins agreed to have some of their coins frozen which what was told to us by 'ethical' Jamie Woodruff... that would be okay but we know now from Ergo that Jamie and team had no idea who the #1 wallet was.. they kept changing their mind who that person was, with nothing negotiated.. but they went ahead and froze their coins anyways.. that does amount to stealing.. and it was the conclusion the now 'banned from discord for asking questions' CEO of Cryptopia came to, resulting in the Cryptopia delisting of the coin. When you are managing millions of dollars you have to act and behave responsibly, this isn't kids play, you can't just change the roadmap.. release new wallets, or freeze peoples coins without informing investors well in advance. And as for unseen consequences.. unless you had your eyes wide shut in discord.. anyone could see this 10,000% interest was going to create huge coin inflation... it was after all by design.. the same with the #1 wallet.. it was so clear the largest wallet was compounding such that obviously they would eventually have the majority share of the coins. There was ample time to either announce a roadmap change weeks in advance or simply wait as Greedy John rightly said until the high staking period was over. The high staking could have simply continued and the kB3 implemented at block 82k and you would have had a stable coin and none of the drama. Changing the roadmap... in the end, is what created disastrous previously unforseen consequences.. YES, I AGREE. We would still have a STABLE coin, with market cap exceeding $50m, if the code was just left alone. There was no stable coin late in the 10 000% period. The wallets got so large that they caused mini forks all the time, and something had to be done. No, you are mixing up events. Until the introduction of a new wallet that attempted (but failed) to gain consensus for an upgrade to launch the fundamental nodes before block 82k, the blockchain was stable and all exchanges were operating. Of course coin inflation was causing a price decrease over time and had been for weeks, but this was expected and by design. For many who bought in early the price decrease was offset by the massive gains due to the coin interest. All the blockchain forks began with the introduction of the new wallets often without any notice whatsoever, leaving people running the wrong wallet version, losing coins, and with exchanges going down (still down in some cases). The original code itself was written well and it was the recent mucking around just before block 80k that started all this mess. Its incredible the team continues to deny their mistakes. At least a team that admits failure can learn from its mistakes, can be honest with their investors, and can then move forward. That does not seem to be the case here and that does not bode well for the future of this coin. I would suggest the team get another spokesperson like Kdog to speak here. She at least has integrity. I have to admit i agree with him... why are we NOW just hearing of these mini-forks? the coin we knew was falling in price but was staying stable UP TILL these changes... no one even was warned hey we are changing the roadmap etc... it was JUST DONE the FUD that came after was not FUD but ppl wanting to know what was going on... I was banned from discord for asking the coins price for the day... i asked and was bitched out to go look somewhere ... i said wow and left and went to come back and was banned... what should be done is delete the discord... start a new one, let anyone join and ask questions... and i am sorry i see all the Fuddddddddddd and Bannnnnnnnnnnn (from my work pc  ) and it is like a steam roll affect from what a appears to be ppl who sit in that discord all day... of course your going to hear the same questions asked more than once that day if your in there 24 hours a day i think the only way to fix that is delete and start over but oh well... back to the coin... what i see is ppl stating facts... and now we are hearing oh there was forks going on because of large wallets, this is new and interesting and i am sure someone who knows can disect that and if it is even possible, cause i have no Idea but why were we not told this b4? and still no matter what excuses that are tossed out... it is not "hindsight" its common sense.... you let ppl know that a HUGE change to their $$ is coming up so they can make a decision to stay or go.... that did not happen... ppl are still waiting on coins from the pool.... which confuses me since 1 man frogger had his out and to the pool members long ago... not a team but 1 man... |
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yes i have to agree guys... Hell I am guilty of kicking ppl from my discord as well.
but not for reasons that i see a lot of times on your discord, there are a LOT of ppl just talking nonsense... and when someone wants to actually talk about the coin they are shut down, like it is taking away from the current convo.
Noobies are treated like crap and blasted for coming there looking for answers, mind you that is only place to go and has been for months. But when they get there to ask questions they are ganged up on and told to basically go away your dumb.
why that behavior is allowed and questions regarding the platform in its current or prior state is disallowed seems weird to me.
heck i was banned back last week of Sept when only coming by all excited my 1st few minutes in and saw everyone freaking out about the price, and i simply asked why what is price and was told to basically piss off and go look on coinmarketcap. i was like wow and left the chat and wehn i tried to get back in i had already been banned.
i want to see this coin make a go at it, but i agree with letting ppl talk more than about stuff than just lambos and mooning.
it is a 24 hour Chat, it is not like that much news is coming out, let ppl talk freely.
and instead of trying to run noobies away , prob ppl never using discord b, then explain hey that is talked about earlier check the pinned messages...
instead of just calling ppl dumb for asking same question again, heck if some people didn't spend hours among hours in that Chat they prob would not be so irritated that the question has already been asked and snapping at them!!
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