I'm not saying they didn't escalate the situation, I don't know. I'm not following this case and only read about it on this forum. You said the guy was walking away from the crowd, why would they run him over at that point?

And keep in mind, while it's more justifiable for citizens to use their car as a deadly weapon... Officers are held by a much higher standard given their training (tactical and communication). So you can't put citizens in the same boat as officers. Not the same class. Plus keep in kind, they're trained to use their guns as force, not their cars.

It's unfortunate so many people have such negative things to say about LE. Do I agree with how some situations are handled, hell no! But I know that we need the order. I know there's a shit load if dirty cops too. But for the most part, they do their duty. For every bad incident we see an officer involved in in the news, there's a million and 1 good deeds that go unnoticed. We shouldn't generalize and stereotype the entire population. Not all officers make bad decisions <- that's a character flaw, not a flaw with the system.

Um no. I knew what you meant, just making it clear for others reading this that CB is not an exchange. There are several vendors, just be careful who you put your trust in. CB is the most trusted, although they have shady practices. They don't down right take your BTC, they do it very sneakily, lol. Anyhow, if you have virwox, they only charge 1% to send to you PP. Of course that requires a high premium to sell your BTC for fiat... But it's an option. They were an exchange for digital currency (linden) before BTC. I buy BTC from them, but have never used their PP service tho.

I see your point but the fact still remain, the guy had a knife in public causing a disturbance. Again, I don't know how this all went down (I'm curious now) but getting out of the car to first try and defuse the situation is a normal response. You suggest using his vehicle would've been a better option, ha! Then the officer would've really been in hot water. think if it this way... What if perp took off toward a crowd with his knife at the ready? There's no way anyone sitting in a car can react in enough time. Consider that officers don't have the entire story when the get on scene. And don't forget you can't predict people's actions.

Coinbase isn't an exchange.

Evidently some of you think using a gun in a knife fight is unfair. Well, it's not. Vests might stop a bullet but a knife will slide right through, easily. A knife is the same level of force as a gun in LE's position, this is true everywhere in the US. Depending on the state (of course the totality of the situation plays a role), an officer can shoot a suspect from several feet away if they have a knife. In SC it's 30ft... The knife holder does not need to be in the officers reach length; reaction time is a hell of a lot slower than you think.

Keep in mind LE is charged to protect citizens, by any means necessary to eliminate the threat. I don't really know the specifics of this incident, but if the victim here had the ability (the knife) AND an opportunity AND the public or the officer was in immediate jeopardy, he may be justified. Those 3 conditions must be met in order for LE to use deadly force: ability, opportunity, and jeopardy.

I thought this issue would've been over by now  But this is the reason why this all came about in the first place: lack of communication. You're right, there wasn't a message that the order wasn't sent for processing... There also wasn't a message stating that the order was sent for processing either, but there should have been... Well, it was, but months too late.

Look at this from the buyer's viewpoint... His name wasn't on the list of orders so he wouldn't have known. I understand you have a separate non public list and he wasn't on the public list because he didn't send his shipping address. But Fact is, he requested the refund only days after the order was placed. The rules stated no refunds after order was sent to the manufacturer, but here again, there's no way he would've known that his order was included in that shipment. You didn't advise him of that until this thread. And the only thing we have is your word that his order was in fact included in that bunch. That's something we'd probably never know for sure. But....

Even if his order was included, it shouldn't have taken you several months to tell him that. Had you advised him early on, he probably would've tried to sell the pre-order as others did. But he was robbed of that option because he was led to believe he was getting a refund; why request the verification (which he sent), if it wouldn't be used to refund him? Even after you found his order, you neglected to tell him that he wasn't entitled to a refund.

My point is, the buyer should've been told from the jump that he wasn't going to be refunded. As I stated before... Given the tone of the initial communication and the fact that my name wasn't on the public list (how would I know you maintain a private list), I'd also be under the impression that I'm getting a refund. The rule is no refund after order is placed - I get that.

What I don't get is why the buyer is absorbing all of this loss on his own when he's technically not at fault? IF he were told this months ago, his loss wouldn't be so drastic. You yourself admitted that lack of communication on your part is partially to blame... That said, this entire incident could've been avoided if it were communicated to the buyer the status of his order - but it wasn't. Now OP is left to settle for a lousy .0something refund when he could've gotten something near the couple of BTC he originally made the purchase for. That isn't fair.

I still had issues, but it could be due to the version of xubuntu I'm on 12.04. I'll upgrade to latest distro.

There isn't a difference. But there are two versions of the wallet; the classic version or the version with all the added features.

The source code is in a github repository.

The pull this shit when prices increase. They have a scheme when you sell too; got me for a couple of g's last time. Do a forum search, no one really use them much anymore. At least not those of us who buy in bulk ... Take that back, I don't anymore.

The high risk is always what I got... Never anything about my bank tho. But I think someone posted here a few days ago that WF threatened to close thief account for buying BTC, look into that as well.

Ah! Yes, initially I tried the link i provided you, but it kept failing (I posted that as I was compiling). So I tried the main repository where I was able to compile v1.3.4. I'll be snagging the other one here shortly   Thanks!

Wait a hoot - My wallet, v1.3.4.0 is just the standard qt... I compiled from github. Do I have the most recent version?

It is just very silly to see people jumping over these new "hot" coins where devs ask for money before any piece of crap is released. All these big guys fall for it.
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You know, I wouldn't be surprised if the bulk of the ICO fund doesn't actually belong to the devs themselves - to give the appearance they have lots of investors... that's just what fools need to jump on the bandwagon - bait. I just skimmed that one neocoin or whatever. They claimed to have sold out all ICO coins. Sure no doubt they did (just hypes up it even more), but they're the only ones who stand to gain anything if it turns out to be a junk coin... which it prolly is.

WHAT?! Good lord. I guess if youre quick enough as a trader you'll come out ahead... feel sorry for the buyers left holding those shitcoins tho. So how the hell do they trade without a wallet? I guess the wallet was made available only to the exchange.

24 hours isn't enough time; you should at least give a several days (most say a week, idk)... but in the long run you'll actually make more with P2Pools. But don't take my word, just search this forum.

huh? That's not true.

chromosoma, find a P2Pool. You'll find blocks quicker and the difficulty is lower.

Damn this wanna be scammer! lol 

Escrow is a must in my book. And selling at the going rate - I figured it was too good to be true

Don't forget about the country/state coins... and the animal coins, lol.

But yes, I totally agree - trend. Personally I like the fact this coin is taking some time to get recognized. Gives it an opportunity to establish longevity, an attribute most coins don't aspire to attain. That in itself will put this coin above others. The trust will come when people who aren't in it for a quick buck sees its stability <--- that should be a goal for any coin. The pace of this coin isn't a hurdle, it's a good thing.

Don't rag on me... but what the hell are ICO coins? I see it in ANN threads, but I admit I have no clue what it is! lol

That might work out better

I don't think this is entirely true... Depends on the circumstances.