@lowbander80 thank you for being respectful with your comments.

I'm not so new, I read for a few months and in November 2013 I finally I registered.
Sure, I'm going to publish the agreement when all aspects

I going to publish all aspects of the agreement when I was finish to negotiate with SPTech and we obtain a final price.

SPTech have not used it so far (RoadStress has confirmed), but I'm going to propose an escrow payment for all us. They can accept or decline the idea. I'm sure that if SPTech accepted may sell more units (some buyers of this group, have not confidence if no escrow).

Guy Corem and his team had informed me that they are focusing all their efforts on HK Conference at this time.

The subject of our purchasing group will be discussed below (when the HK Conferences was finish), with the intention of offering a better service and to reach an agreement on all the details of our deal.

surry Bicknellski, I thought I had clarified this issue in my previous post. My apologies

@lowbander80
I will repeat as many times as necessary, I am not trying to convince anyone whether SP30 is better or worse. : )

Simply I want to buy SP-30 and this thread is also for anyone who wants to buy SP-30 in the same order.

It's a win-win deal, it is a fact.
The rest is speculation and own opinion.

Sincerely and respectfully towards you, if I were CEO of any company, I would laugh if a single user tells me what should be the price of my products. If you do not like the price, simply do not buy it. I really like Ferrari cars, but can not afford one.

Do not misunderstand my comment, l'm trying to answer with the best intentions.

I mean that neither you nor anyone else can tell you what to do to a man who has put his money, his efforts and work to create a product with the best quality he could get and has been able to sell.

@anykeywhy I think you do not understand because you do not want to understand...or that I have explained bad. I hope it's the second option   Don't repeat and re-read firstly please.

I have a lot of patience, I'll explain all your doubts, but it is not necessary to repeat the messages

As far as I know, RoadStress units are shipped in August 2014 and are depleted.
For this reason, I have organized a new buying group for the units to delivery in September.

News about this group buy negotiation.


you are right to distrust, I would do you the same. For this reason I want SPTech receive the funds directly.

Anyway, due to mistrust of some users, I will propose an independent escrow to SPTech, but they have had more and big orders than ours and have not problems. I did not want to explain this because SPTech not use escrow system so far and they may not want complications.

I prefer answer to you now that the arma dei carabinieri after


Group buy Price:  29 units
Web site Price: Undetermined <29

Many buyers can not afford website price or can not buy SP-30 at that price and prefer buy Antminer just for a lower difference in the price/color/flavour/whatever you want


Maybe it is. But my goal is only pay less for the same product. With that I am satisfied

I explain to you again with software licenses:
Do you really think Microsoft licenses are sold at the same price to a particular customer than a big company customer?  

Bitcoin Forum > Bitcoin > Mining > Hardware > Group buys

jimmothy I suppose because they do not waste time and money on getting customers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economies_of_scale
Anyway ask them [email, oficial web form, that other thread such as https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=521520.0 ]

But I repeat, this thread is only for A GROUP BUY.
If someone believes there is a better product, you can buy it

If anyone thinks that SPTech should sell at another price, You can write and suggest it.

If anyone thinks that I will not make this group buy, he is roundly wrong

I do not try to convince anyone. If somebody have any questions about this buy group/purchase/deal, I will be happy to answer

@anykeywhy  
to be a senior user, you are a bit rude... (w respect)


for the umpteenth time...if you want to discuss about the company you have other threads, this thread is ONLY FOR GROUP BUYERS

@RoadStress Thank you for your help : )


Yes, it is

Yes, as much as possible we can get

I commit myself to inform ONLY the actual prices negotiated directly with Spondoolies. At the time this was 8 units ($ 4,400) now have 14 16 units and the price will be lower : )

Thank you for your clarifying message Bicknellski

Explain this argument to your boss   and he will tell you:
"Ey Jim! I do not understand why you do not work for $ 250/moth or $ 2.5/day."
Maybe because your time is worth more. Anyway if you know a Ferrari that is being for sale under $2.500 let me know please

jimmothy I suppose because they do not waste time and money on getting customers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economies_of_scale

I do not understand why so many people are upset with the ideia of we buy 6TH when they have bought ONLY ONE MONTH BEFORE
If you have a small penis (<= 1TH/s), I understand you're upset when others show his 6TH/s
Take advantage and buy one!

@Und3rd0g
I don't know what is the solution. But definitely stop mining (<=1TH/s) and wait for hardware companies are mining all, it's not.
I have seen a group buy can reduce more than 10% the price of the hardware. It's not a solution, but it's a start aid


I'm doing this just for fun and nobody pays me. But if Spondoolies want to have a detail with me, I love red cars with a black horse logo ...just kidding

byt411 ¿te ha llegado sin problemas?

Tengo un conocido en Portugal que no quiere volver a oir hablar de DHL porque hizo pago en BTC y le han mareado durante varias semanas. Dice que prefier UPS, aun con el sobrecoste.

UPS si que me consta que funcionan así, incluso te entregan el material si no puedes justificar en el momento el valor exacto del paquete, pero tienes que pagarles, aunque no te retienen el paquete Eso sí, son un pelín mas caros.

@ChuckBuck
I'm in the last S2 Group Buy from bitcointalk (not from 112bit.com). We obtained the same selling price per unit that is in the official website. No discounts for group buyers from June. If you have other information, adds 2 more S2 units for me in your order
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=642586.msg7353233#msg7353233


@jonnybravo0311

Firstly, thank you for your interest

Yes, I trying to get a price lower than $4400.

Sure, I speak with the official acount in the forum and with the Spondoolies team, but they will ignore you until the end of the HK conference (me included :S)

I have not tried that kind of details yet, only improvement in the final sales price.
I suppose we could choose any of the two modes only if our order is large enough.

Thank you for your suggestions

Thank you for your reply dropt and your apreciate advice : )

I will try to delay payment until the last week as I can.
Anyway, if you know how BITMAIN give us the same number of TH/s at the same price this week... I'll buying them! But unfortunately BITMAIN do not accept buying groups. They maintain the same Price for all buyers.

@dropt thank you for your comment This thread is not to discuss that company have more volume, only for buying multiple SP-30.

How many Bugatti cars are in the world? I agree that there are many more cars from Henry Ford, but I prefer to drive a Bugatti

@data55 Thanks for your patience

@iglasses & pb2014 and  other people who are interested in we are not buy SP-30.
Fortunately, everybody can mine today. Sorry for wake up from your dream where you're the only one miner
I will report all inappropriate messages onwards and it going to delete by the mod's


Also, I am pleased to announce that I am a new scammer's target
Come to Daddy 6 years working in banking security have helped me...just a bit

https://www.virustotal.com/es/file/8f5e93d9fe00dcd2e01212135c0c05ee9541696efd2b1cb2d15533d792e64158/analysis/1403094409/

"Oh shit! He is a IT security guy!"

Al final mi jefe me apoya   así que he abierto una compra en grupo para que los equipos de 6TH/s nos salgan mas baratos a todos.

De momento vamos a comprar 8 unidades, si alguien mas se anima, el precio será por debajo de 4.400 U$D (unos 3.283 € y se admite pago en BTC).

[nearly OPEN] Spondoolies-Tech SP30 - Specs: 6TH/s + 0.46W/GH
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=656170.0

@wpgdeez
Really? if Spondoolies sold at those prices, We'll try to reach them. (I not, WE YES!

IMHO that price is unrealistic to 6TH/s


I have read about the BM1382 and I think the comment that best describes BITMAIN company is this:


Spondoolies have proven to be a reliable and trusty company. I don't know their big errors (I don't know if it exist). They use OpenSource products and you can reconfigure all the software easyly.

@raskul I'm sorry

@Ski72  done

@whonesta You're very lucky!

@Und3rd0g thanks for your interest.
Could you be so kind as to repeat the same calculations for 6 units of ANTMiner S2 (1TH/s x 6 units = 6TH/s)?
2595$ per S2 unit x 6 units =15,570 $
After that you consumption multiplied by 2.5 times more (because one SP-3 is 2400W and six ANTMiner S2=6x1000W; 6000W/2400W=2.5 times)

I used a long time to find the best option IMHO that's Spondoolies SP-30.


@data55 done

@Bicknellski done I'm trying to improve all as I can

UPDATE:
Dear all group buyers,

After SPTech receiving the first batch of RockerBox ASICs, the initial results show a lower hash rate than they expected.

http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/blogs/news/14919097-sp30-bring-up-status

This is the main reason to not continue With our Group Buy.

Spondoolies-Tech SP30 - REAL Specs: 4.5 TH/s (NOT 6 => no ROI)

Regards.

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After speaking with RoadStress and Spondoolies Tech I am preparing a new buying group for SP-30 delivered in September 2014.

I'm still in talks with Spondoolies but I hope a price below 4.300 U$D Actual price for normal buy is $5,095.00 per unit.

The product:



Note that local fees such as customs may apply and are not covered by Spondoolies-Tech or buying group.

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If you're really interested in buying PM me with the followings:
- Your nick;
- Number of units;
- Escrow system: Yes/Not/Don't mind
- your e-mail;
- transaction ID; [WAIT please]
- your preffered payment method(Bitcoins, Dollars or Euros); [WAIT please]

I am assigning a number to each requested unit to help to arrange delivery of SPTech.

The list of buyers is anonymous, it only knows by the Spondoolies team and I (will not be displayed on the forum, for privacy reasons).

The list will be forwarded to Spondoolies Tech so that you can arrange payment afterwards.

I going to update this post weekly. No news from our negotiation with Spondoolies until after Hong Kong conference - June 24-25 (Guy Corem, CEO of Spondoolies said to me).


ROI Calculator:
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/calculator


Github repos are live!
All the Spondoolies software stack is fully open-sourced:
https://github.com/Spondoolies-Tech/cgminer

SPTech technical blog is live!
Includes ongoing updates and release notes for the new firmware versions:
http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/blogs/technical-blog


Edit: I hope to set the final price on July 15 based on the difficulty of the moment.
I do not want to waiting more for processing our order to avoid delays in our units.

Edit:
I am currently awaiting reply from the manufacturer.
I feel unable to give a final price yet.

Edit 23/07/2014 SP-30 SPECS:
This group buy is kept to until reopen sales with the new specifications.

http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/blogs/news/14919097-sp30-bring-up-status




Edit:
BE CAREFULL WITH SCAMMERS!
The user number 356016 with the name "bitmadrid." is a scammer.
DON'T SEND ANY BTCs to https://blockchain.info/en/address/1PRrbRprK35MdaugyyCR5AHYGJghghgAyH

You must wary of emails that Scammers can send to your email.


Check with focus on the attached files with *.Exe or with *.Jar and double extension files such as *.XLSX.exe or *.XLS.jar.

I only publish the wallet in this thread

Wait for the official account SPTECH confirm the address in this thread.

@ maxis I'm very happy for you

Could you show me the transaction ID please?

Excuse me I am very incredulous

@dserrano5 un placer leer tus respuestas

Gracias por tu respuestas ernesthor

Como explicaba, el consumo me da igual porque tenemos excedente en energía generada y con la nueva ley, ya no la estamos volcando a la red.

Estoy tras algún cupón de ANTMiner S2 ya que $2,595.00 por 1TH/s se me antoja caro y he leído que los cupones son de 400$ de rebaja. Si alguien tiene alguno disponible, le estaría muy agradecido si no lo va a utilizar.
Si no lo consigo, trataré de enredar a mi jefe a ver si me compra un juguete de los de Spondoolys...pero lo veo complicado hasta septiembre

Respecto a los nodos, ya he levantado uno

Ale, ya tengo mi primer nodo Satoshi:0.9.2 operativo Soy un pequeño punto en Madrid.

1ª duda: ¿Por qué se ha creado un monedero si se supone que no voy a utilizar ese server para recibir ni emitir transacciones?

2ª duda: Estoy bajando el  torrent del bootstrap.dat desde otro equipo, cuando acabe se lo copio desde un pendrive y listo, ¿no?
No sube de 13 conexiones a otros nodos, no sé si es normal. He puesto la máquina en la DMZ y he hecho un NAT en el router de salida de esa red. No tiene mas conexiones

3ª duda:  ¿Las micro-ínfimas-comisiones de las transacciones son para mi nodo? Entiendo que después de 10 años igual llego a 0.1 BTC pero como lo desconozco, pregunto.

4ª duda: ¿Puedo forzar a que mi nodo valide SIEMPRE mis transacciones, porque me fío mas de él?