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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: January 04, 2017, 11:35:09 AM
my SDC jumped up >65%
do we have Shadowcash in ICNX?
42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: January 03, 2017, 08:01:07 PM
Want to know more?

https://byteball.org

Edit: Whitepaper: https://byteball.org/Byteball.pdf
43  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: January 03, 2017, 04:56:55 PM
ICONOMIs ICO is over. Is it still possible to take part somehow? Smiley

Sure buy some ICN at Kraken.com
44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: January 03, 2017, 12:59:14 AM
Found an interesting analysis in https://np.reddit.com/r/Shadowcash/comments/5lhh6m/the_intelligent_investors_guide_to_cryptocurrency/?

ICONOMI (ICN)
In it's simplest form it is an index fund of certain cryptocurrencies i.e. it represents several million dollars worth of USD and Euro that have been converted into a mixture of Bitcoin, Ethereum, Monero, Dash, Maidsafecoin among a few others. The value of this portfolio will fluctuate and it's composition will periodically change depending on whether the coins it represent fail to or achieve certain criteria.
It will also incorporates a fund management platform that is to say in layman's terms, it will be an air B&B of investment advisors and fund managers in cryptocurrency.
Those two points constitute it's value proposition. By nature of the way it works it has an easily identifiable P/E ratio based on the amount used to create the fund ($10.5 million) against the current value of that fund based on it's
If you believe the total marketcap (total valuation) of crptocurrency is going to boom through 2017 and the next few years (and it has massive room to do so given the marketcap and limitations of Gold along with emergent non-speculative usability of certain cryptocurrencies) then ICN is possibly a very good token to buy and simply hold.
The price of ICN is currently $0.33. Based on it's initial valuation of $0.14 per token this would give it an approximate P/E ratio of 2.36. This is falsely assuming the total fiat value of the index has stayed static.
In reality the ICN index has increased 30% in value so as of writing it's true P/E ratio is ($0.33 / (0.14*1.3)) = 1.81.
Compared to other currencies where the intrinsic P/E ratio is infinity this is incredible and represents amazing value for money even when compared against traditional stocks (e.g. GOOG shares as of writing have a P/E ratio of 33).
So for absolute beginners, the risk averse and long term investors, ICN may be the safest and most profitable token to invest in over the long term.
Risks to be aware of are the possibility of regulation restricting or banning the ICN token, a general decline in cryptocurrency marketcap and poor performance in multiple coins composing the ICN index which would bring the value of ICN down significantly.
45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 28, 2016, 10:30:48 PM



Of course it was from inside. Very unfair!

Of course you have no proof, but are still complaining. So let's all put our tinfoil hats on

46  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 26, 2016, 08:09:27 AM

I wouldn't call him a 'Big' fish. But I'd also question the attempt to sell. What reason does he have to sell a promising token such as ICN?

There are some big sells at above 0.002 so maybe just getting ready to sell at $1.50 to $3 in case it goes that high.

Maybe, with the platform coming up in two days time, alot of people will attempt to take some profit form the potential bull run

I also believe there will be a bull run. Wonder in what price it may stabilize after the launch. Any guess?


$2
47  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 24, 2016, 11:23:54 PM
There are people that have the early access.

Got any proof?
48  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 24, 2016, 11:19:25 PM
Congratulations on passing the 1000 barrier!!



Congrats to everyone that makes this possible. We will soon be rewarded for our trust in the project.

Hope we soon get some feedback on the status of the release or even the early access that was promised
49  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 24, 2016, 02:24:22 PM
ASK
if I have 1000 ICN in my wallet
how much can get a dividends in everyweek? thanks in advance.

'bout tree fiddy

Jea that would be around tree fiddy

https://youtube.com/watch?v=9xCAs08QPNw
50  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 23, 2016, 10:31:17 PM
Man Bitcoin is going nuts @ $919 http://www.bitcoinity.org/markets/bitfinex/USD

At times like this i wonder why i didn't go all in BTC when it was $250  Cheesy Roll Eyes

Could have more then tripled my money

But my hopes are truly lying on ICONOMIs success now, in what is planed and a bright, successful,
dividend rich future  Grin
51  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 23, 2016, 10:09:37 PM
I would like to watch this video  Undecided
52  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 23, 2016, 08:53:38 PM
Just found a helpful thing, we are also listed on coingecko!

So if someone wants to easy convert any amount from ICN/BTC, ICN/USD, ICN/EUR or so
Go to https://www.coingecko.com/en/price_charts/iconomi/cny
Choose the right pair on the top, e voila...  Wink


And for some extra infos go to https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/iconomi
53  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 23, 2016, 04:32:12 PM
any news on beta invites?

I am in the early access group and received the email confirming it, but I have not received the access user/password yet... By tomorrow all the early access group should be able to access the platform...

Quote
Today around midnight, we're launching the all new ICONOMI. The access will be given also to you. Some of you will get the access immediately, some of you later until Saturday.

Yes same here, no confirmed early access user i have heard of yet. Think we will get our X-mas access tomorrow
They will start beta access on Saturday

You mean Santa will give us early access presents?!
54  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 23, 2016, 04:05:49 PM
BITCOIN IS GOING DOWN

YOU KNOW WHAT IT MEANS

 Grin

ETH dropped to
55  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 23, 2016, 04:03:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47Z27PPNvNQ
Tim talks about Iconomi for an hour here, sadly it's in Slovene. Thougt the major things he probably didn't want to reveal is that Deloitte is going to audit every new ICO and give a green flag if it's a good investment or a scam, something like this. Also he said that they have a lot of fund managers already in contact and they will have their OFM funds in their portfolio of stock and bond funds. Someone else from Slovenia can try to translate something interesting that they find in this video.

Deloitte is involved??

Errrr WHAT?

If that is true, then this is major fucking news.

Would someone in Slovenia be a Gem and add English Captions for us?

:/ looks like the video got removed
56  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 23, 2016, 03:38:02 PM
any news on beta invites?

I am in the early access group and received the email confirming it, but I have not received the access user/password yet... By tomorrow all the early access group should be able to access the platform...

Quote
Today around midnight, we're launching the all new ICONOMI. The access will be given also to you. Some of you will get the access immediately, some of you later until Saturday.

Yes same here, no confirmed early access user i have heard of yet. Think we will get our X-mas access tomorrow
57  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 23, 2016, 04:58:36 AM
Whats stopping users from dumping when icn reaches to $20 or even $5?
If dividend is worth waiting while icn price gors $20, theymight not dump but the rest will.

Everyone has his selling (dumping) price.

But it's no problem because there are always buyers. If it really goes above $10 or $20 I sell some to, but not all just some ammount and hodl on with the rest.
58  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 22, 2016, 09:15:46 AM
While waiting, we can read this: https://www.iconomi.net/terms-of-use

edit:
"4. Users from the United States
4.1 THE WEBSITE AND ITS PRODUCTS ARE NOT OFFERED FOR USE TO THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (“USA”) REGARDLESS OF THEIR LOCATION, AND ARE NOT OFFERED TO NATURAL OR LEGAL PERSONS, HAVING THEIR SEAT OR HABITUAL RESIDENCE IN THE USA."

that is not good info  Sad

That's kinda like eToro... Available everywhere except US:
https://www.etoro.com/usa/?ref=signup

This doesn't forbid US citizens of the United States from buying and selling ICN on exchanges.
It's a protection, when Iconomi offers real products, they will surely review this, US is a very important market.
Do not worry about it for now.
Hopefully it's temporary. Perhaps launching in the US right away would've delayed launch by a few months.

From Quora regarding Etoro not entering the US market:
any broker which avoids the US market does so due to the regulations that are required for operating in the US.( same for BC Canada. ) these 5 bodies        U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission   Commodity Futures Trading Commission   (CFTC)       U.S. Department of the Treasury   Department   of the Treasury       Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation   Federal   Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC)       FINRA - Home Page   Financial   Industry Regulatory Authority (FINRA)       U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission   Securities   and Exchange Commission (SEC)  are regulating all activities. for a broker it could be too much work and too hard to get the license due to all the rules and restrictions.

https://www.quora.com/Why-does-eToro-com-avoid-the-US-market

It doesn't really matter...

You can still live in the US and own shares of a market or Casino or any platform that OPERATES OUTSIDE THE USA.

For example; the shareholders of eToro can live in the United States, eventhough eToro operates outside the United States.


Alright then let's ignite the second stage of this rocket
59  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 22, 2016, 07:12:44 AM
While waiting, we can read this: https://www.iconomi.net/terms-of-use

edit:
"4. Users from the United States
4.1 THE WEBSITE AND ITS PRODUCTS ARE NOT OFFERED FOR USE TO THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (“USA”) REGARDLESS OF THEIR LOCATION, AND ARE NOT OFFERED TO NATURAL OR LEGAL PERSONS, HAVING THEIR SEAT OR HABITUAL RESIDENCE IN THE USA."
60  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 22, 2016, 07:10:34 AM
New homepage is finally LIVE !
(Not sure if it's just my screen resolution or if they should adjust it for wide screen displays)



Anybody been able to log in ?

I wonder how my early access will work
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