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Cool article: http://journalofcosmology.com/Mars108.htmlSelf-preservation considerations in a dangerous universe and the human exploratory spirit compel us to explore space and colonize other planets. Mars is the planet in our solar system, which is reasonably close and provides an abundance of resources and shelter for such a colonization effort. and While it would undoubtedly take a tremendous effort over many years to establish multiple settlements on Mars, we see no fundamental reason why this plan is not technologically implementable. but The main impediment is the narrow vision and the culture of political caution that now pervades the space programs of most nations. ergo #Marscoin
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someone building their future on Mars ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif)
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Can we try to get the coin on a few more general exchanges since the bigs ones take time and a whole lot of begging. Another General exchange besides cryptorush is http://www.cryp[Suspicious link removed]/market#2CH They also list a lot of the newer coins, its a basic trading system and it gets the coin out there in more places. Its simple to request the coin on that exchange, just go to the contact page and ask for it to be listed. no need to sign up to do this either. I am working to get Marscoin on: https://bter.com/ https://www.crypto-trade.com/ https://mcxnow.com/ and openex.pw other suggestions & support welcome.
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Pool work fine but I want my coins, pool does not let me place my MARSCOIN address to cash out the coins. ? Send a couple emails, not answer from the admin? I see if I can reach out to him. He is usually very responsive but in a European timezone. Hang on :-)
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Yes, that's the older wallet version on windows... MRC was launched a little earlier and so they decided to launch as MRS (which makes more sense anyways)... The latest mac and linux wallets show the right abbreviation.
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*Breaking News* ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Marscoin's first exchange listing: You can buy and sell Marscoin now on Cryptorush at http://www.cryptorush.in
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Why is the diff taking so long to go up??
2014-02-01 05:00:26 nActualTimespan = 85786 before bounds 2014-02-01 05:00:26 GetNextWorkRequired RETARGET 2014-02-01 05:00:26 nTargetTimespan = 88775 nActualTimespan = 85786 2014-02-01 05:00:26 Before: 1d01d3c9 00000001d3c90000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 2014-02-01 05:00:26 After: 1d01c408 00000001c408fd5b0c013bf5ee1d85f4ce350de114be0efd4c4849d87cd45217 acording to the logs on my end, the network is producing blocks about 3% too fast, and it does appear to have changed the difficulty slightly to match (thanks cleverca22 for pointing out)
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Yeah, I did give it some thought a few hours ago, but I was unable to come up with a workable solution ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) I suppose martians could prioritise an ASIC foundry and manufacture a proprietary implementation of some new proof-of-work. It might leak to Earth, but hopefully by then it will be "too late"? :p LOL, yes: Eventually Mars colonists will overtake Earth anyways - they are closer to the Asteroid belt and can 3d metal-print giant scrypt-ASICS. Puny Earth network will shake in fear :-) The first interplanetary war will be about hashing power, ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Hey man, are you pushing for any exchanges?
Pushing hard...all help welcome! cryptsy.freshdesk.com/support/discussions/topics/64091 We spoke to cryptsy CEO Paul Vernon at BTCMiami. Guess what, he is a MarsOne fan and liked the idea. Said they look at hashrate, community engagement, general idea of the coin before they list it. Just have to keep growing Marscoin in popularity and cryptsy will list. Also applied at https://crypto-trade.com/ and https://cryptorush.inPlease support with votes and comments.
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If a centralised system is desired, no blockchain is necessary at all. Earth does not have any such timestamping restrictions on blocks.
It is not "desired" - it would only be necessary in the unlikely event of a massive attack from Earth. Something we could discuss for the next 10 years to figure out. How to best address. Higher supply decreases value, not increases it... so this doesn't really argue why it should be increased quicker.
Psychology: "Oh no, all Marscoin will be gone by the time they leave". Vs. "Oh, they have 100 Mio. Marscoins of which only 30 Mio are mined on Earth, who cares, my grandchildren can mine on Mars". Well, now it sounds like the goal is a centralised system masquerading as a decentralised one... I'd be more inclined to support a system that improves on Bitcoin (or at least retains its functionality) rather than seems to be introducing new problems without addressing the existing ones.
Welcome suggestions how you would implement such a system, initially, when Mars mining server are week and hashrate on Earth is high. So far Marscoin is completely decentral and if we can keep it that way, the better. Check out http://mars-project.com for discussions on this topic and/or the Marscoin IRC channel.
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I'm not aware of any such measures that can be taken without centralising the currency.
Similar to a timestamping server here on Earth (or yes, even an ICANN like construct, but that is centralization, indeed). It will be in the Mars colonists' economic best self-interest to install server(s) that issue a list of timestamp marked credentials - which could be incorporated in each block to verify the mining occurred on Mars. Raising the money is done with the premine. Beyond that, it doesn't help raise money at all.
Yes it does: the 300k (now 400k) of premined Marscoins are worth nothing at this point (well, on reddit they go for 10-80cents right now). If the incentive is strong enough, more and more fiat currencies will be exchanged for Marscoin driving up the price for Marscoins. That alone will make the initial premining worthwhile and allow MarsOne to actually make use of it. Maybe I should have said "allows to fund activities and make purchases in fiat related to the actual mission roadmap" instead of "raise money". Keep in mind that the difficulty needs to be high enough to make it resistant to attacks...
See the above answer regarding the credentials incorporated into each block by a (network) of security servers that could form the backbone of a Martian internet. Let me know what needs to be done, in your opinion, to convince you of Marscoin? Curious!
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The faster blocks make sense though if you want to protect yourself from Earth miners (see discussion in their forum under "Evil Earth Miner Scenario". Except it does nothing to protect you... Earth just needs more hashrate, and their blockchain trumps Mars', no matter how delayed. It will make it harder as it adds a much higher burden on a co-ordinated attack from Earth. Yes, they will have more hashing power, but to advance such a large blockchain in such a short time frame it will need a concerted effort from Earth to do that. On top of that, if the Marscoin network adds a timestamping or other security measures that are local to Mars an attack from Earth is impossible due to the distance. The retargeting is similar to 540 block coins, like Terracoin. Imitating a scamcoin which has had problems as a direct result of the change, is not the best idea ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Terracoin's solution to its problems was adopting a 540 retarget. They are by far not the only Litecoin blockchains with a similar retargeting interval. Check out the discussions here: https://github.com/terracoin/terracoin/issues/14Regarding the coin supply: it aligns with the departure of the Marscoin blockchain to Mars: Why is this a good thing? I'd think it make more sense to have most of the coins mined on Mars itself, not most on Earth... Depends. The idea is to raise the money NOW to actually help make the Mars mission a reality. Thus you increase the incentive for people to get into the currency before the blockchain leaves. Once on Mars, the Marscolonists have better things to do than to put their servers on a mining armsrace - Marscoin on Mars will then mainly become a transaction network. If need be, the minimal mining that will continue could be monopolized by MarsOne or whoever runs the base to pay early Mars settlers to incentivise the growth of the colony. Appreciate your thoughts and input!!
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![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Genau! Allerdings werden andere genau dieselbe Idee haben, ebenfalls minen, und - wie bei Bitcoin - fuehrt das dann zu einem ausgewogenen Netzwerk. Allerdings koennen die ersten Miner dann eventuell die Prioritaeten der jungen Marskolonie bestimmen: Sollen wir einen Thorium Reaktor bauen, oder lieber mehr Solarfarmen aufbauen?
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Awesome idea, and justifies the creation of an altcoin... but Awful parameter selection: - scrypt is a proven failure.
- There is no demonstrable benefit to faster blocks.
- There is no clear standard for a "Mars minute" with which to define block time in (I'd question if this unit even should be defined).
- Difficulty retarget is probably too fast and will allow luck to influence difficulty a lot.
- Why change total coin supply?
Additionally, it would really make sense to try to address the shortcomings of Bitcoin with known solutions, in any new altcoin. I don't see any evidence of that here.. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) The devs are pretty active on IRC @freenode #MRS and #Marscoin, they would probably love to hear from you. It's an international team, I am pretty sure they might be interested in feedback/help. The faster blocks make sense though if you want to protect yourself from Earth miners (see discussion in their forum under "Evil Earth Miner Scenario". The retargeting is similar to 540 block coins, like Terracoin. Regarding the coin supply: it aligns with the departure of the Marscoin blockchain to Mars: 2014 50 coins 2016 25 coins 2018 12 coins 2020 6 coins 2022 3 coins 2024 1 coin
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Viel Erfolg beim Etablieren einer Datenverbindung zum Abgleich der Blockchain!
Es wird ja keinen Abgleich geben koennen - das ist ja gerade der Grund wieso Mars eine eigene Blockchain braucht. Mars ist zu weit entfernt, um im Bitcoin Netzwerk zu funktionieren. In 2024 wird die Marscoin blockchain auf einen USB stick geladen und auf den Mars gebracht. Von da an koennte Marscoin dann "das Bitcoin des Mars" sein, als erste Cryptocurrency des roten Planeten. Zwischen Marscoin und Bitcoin wird es sicher exchanges geben, eventuell eine super langsame "Interplanetary Coin" mit Block confirmations von mehreren Stunden. Wenn man zwischen Mars und Erde reist, parkt man sein Geld vor Abflug in so eine langsame Blockchain und tauscht es dann lokal um.
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