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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: TPTB_need_war Bitcoin Fork in the making! on: May 26, 2016, 02:00:15 AM
I hope he's back

I'm thinking he might actually be gone this time ....
42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Announcing Nxt 2.0 on: May 25, 2016, 05:41:45 AM
The 50% dev share funding and 2.0 roadmap will definitely lift the marketcap for NXT, so anything over a doubling from this point (i.e. ~12-13M) should be considered pure gain for NXT hodlers.

I can see the NXT marketcap back over 20M in a few months, so this news is 100% positive!

If nothing was done NXT would have died, and this is NOT a 'standard'  ICO, so it's a good decision imo

BCNext's vision lives on now because devs have funds to continue working.

There wasn't an alternative, crypto community is too small to survive on donation economy.
43  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Nxt: Hold or sell? on: May 24, 2016, 08:52:42 PM
Correct me If I am wrong..

Let me correct you. There will be no ICO

The 50% dev share funding and 2.0 roadmap will definitely lift the marketcap for NXT, so anything over a doubling from this point (i.e. ~12-13M) should be considered pure gain for NXT hodlers.

I can NXT marketcap back over 20M in a fw months, so this news is 100% positive! If nothing was done NXT would have died, and this is NOT an ICO, so a good decision
44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: "NXT 2.0" has been announced on: May 24, 2016, 08:47:04 PM
bounded entropy, recursive systems are not decentralized by definition.  


Can you explain what you mean here bro?
45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: May 23, 2016, 09:33:48 PM
So is the Waves Platform an improved version of Ripple  Huh

No it's a crowdfunding platform with some nxt and ripple concepts added.

That's a good summary , "crowdfunding platform with some nxt and ripple concepts added'
46  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NOXT] - NobleNXT Proposal/Whitepaper - Noble's 1st Colored Coin on: May 23, 2016, 09:32:06 PM
Now it's gonna be even tougher now Polo decided it's gonna be delisted lol.
And guess who doesn't give a shit 'bout the investors?
You guessed it.

Wow, it actually is

S.O.S rofo ... you need to act buddy, delisting from Polo would be hard to recover from
47  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NOXT] - NobleNXT Proposal/Whitepaper - Noble's 1st Colored Coin on: May 22, 2016, 09:35:23 PM
It's a wonder you guys are still not willing to give up lol.
I'm out the ship long time ago already but still checking here time to time.
This coin is in a coma, let's just take it off its lifesupport already.
It has suffered enough.

It's a colored coin, it can't die unless NXT does AFAIK. So no reason not to wait.
it dies or may as well be dead if ROFO abandons it, he has all the keys!!! Then its the same as any old shitcoin someone makes as a joke on the NXT asset exchange.

technically Hueristic is correct, NOXT lives as long as NXT blockchain does, unlike so many other small alts that can literally have zero nodes.

I think rofo will be back ... dev work on startups are notoriously slow and difficult ... I think it's better he not read this thread.
48  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: May 22, 2016, 09:29:01 PM
I've been curious about WAVES since the start of this thread, but haven't spent the time to research beyond what information is in the OP.  Still a bit hesitant to get in during the ICO, so I ask you all this:

What is WAVES bringing to the table that merits an investment?  

Recently I've been under the impression that the majority of ICOs attempt to lure in buyers using fancy wording, massive walls of text and nonsensical  technical jargon.  So many coins claim to offer 'useful new features' or 'the next standard' when in reality they're nothing more than an average clone with a shiny new GUI; all its investors merely in it to make a quick buck before moving on to the next.

Serious answers please - I'm curious what WAVES has to offer. What I'm most interested in is if anything new is being brought to the table.

Sell this to me, guys - I'd love to be a part of the next big thing Wink

Thanks in advance!

@Arrakeen,

Unlike many other crypto-initiatives, the Waves platform has unique real use cases that prove to be superior to the substitute centralized services at the moment. There might be a lot use cases for it, but let me tell you the most prevalent and featured ones.

First of all, we need to understand the underlying technology. It's asset-to-asset trading. That simple, actually. But the opportunities this feature will bring about is countless and enormous. It means that you will be able to create your own asset (like you can do with Counterparty or Nxt), and trade it against other assets created by others.

Now let's take a look at the real use cases.

1) Fiat integration: If a financial company creates its own asset and says that "I will sell this token for 1 USD and also buy it back at the same price," and comes up with a legal document showing its liability for the convertibility of the asset into real USD, then that asset is the USD-token. Its value is 1 USD, backed by real USD held in the bank account of that financial institution.

Now it means that you can trade any crypto-asset created in the platform against that USD-token. What are those assets in the platform? BTC, for instance, or ETH. So it means there is no need to worry about the reliability and security of the centralized exchanges. Bitfinex, Poloniex, Coinbase etc... In those hackable systems, you store your cryptos in hot wallets, and pay tons of transaction fees. But when you trade in the decentralized exchange of the Waves platform, you will hold your cryptos as well as your fiat in your Waves wallet, and the trading fees are just the network fees of the platform, that is, a few cents.

2) Crowdfunding projects: Think of it like a decentralized Kickstarter. You may issue your own token and sell it against USD in the platform. The positive consequences of such an application is apparent. You don't pay fees to a middleman. Your shares in the crowdfunding project is tradable. So it's like the company gets listed in a stock exchange right in the crowdfunding phase. And you don't have to take into account the price volatility of bitcoin, since you get the money already as USD.

3) International money transfers: That's a straight conclusion of the fiat integration. There will be many gateways in many countries, each issuing their local currency. Now if Alice wants to send 100 USD to Bob, and Bob wants EUR instead of USD, it's easily achievable by buying USD-tokens, converting them in the decentralized exchange to EUR-tokens and then send them to Bob, who will then use the EUR-gateway to get the tokens converted and sent to his bank account.

Now this is what disrupts the traditional centralized model most. A platform to be the infrastructure of a wide range of companies which are competitors of Kickstarter, PayPal, and Bitfinex. I hope the long-term potential is obvious here. So why invest in Waves? Because each transaction in the platform will require a transaction fee, which is payable in Wave tokens. So the adoption of the platform means the demand for the Wave tokens, which should increase its value.

Note that the Waves platform doesn't only serve to the cryptocurrency community, but because of the fiat integration, it aims to be the decentralized network for the non-crypto folks as well.

I hope that counts as an explanation, and I hope you join us!

Best,

Jian

A great and informative post Jian, thanks for taking the time to write this!

yeah, I'm copy pasting that post for safe keeping Smiley
49  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dictionary of Crypto on: May 21, 2016, 09:25:38 AM
What a cool thread, thanks!
50  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: May 21, 2016, 09:16:00 AM
Why has Waves development stagnated? By the way, i only see this person with this pseudonymous "gagarin" commiting changes on core. So right now is there only one person developing on Waves platform? I was willing to invest, but i don't see it gaining power on development here. Yelllow flags???


we're testing the lite client now. after that we'll continue the development. priority is a good and stable network and the POC lite client.

Cool, there'll be a lite client too, I didn't know that!
51  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network on: May 21, 2016, 09:07:08 AM
Hey guys, I have a really old version of the Qora wallet, how do I update without losing my funds?  If I install and then replace the wallet folder it doesn't work.

@GameKyuubi, you're the HODL dude, right?

Hey everyone, the HODL dudes HODL'ing QORA - awesome!

That's gotta be a good omen for QORA
52  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: May 20, 2016, 11:01:54 AM
We are testing first version atm. Should be ready for the public testing near the end of ICO. Basic functions at start - account creation, import, transfer etc. New features will be slowly added in time before and after platform launch in summer 2016. Official version will need to go through appstore submission.

That's good news.


Yes, more dicussion of real dev related issues is needed now

53  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network on: May 20, 2016, 08:48:00 AM
If the case good for them  Smiley

Yea, but who is 'them'? Seems as if no devs are stepping up to lead updates and outline a vision. As Klee says, no mans land!

I wouldn't worry much. QORA always has the support of the BURST team too, and I know everything is going to be AOK!


I hope you're right, QORA is a coin with great tech
54  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: May 20, 2016, 02:55:52 AM
is anything happening with DVC now, any dev updates etc?

DevCoin was such a great idea back in the day, such a shame it (so far) didn't take off more
55  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NOXT] - NobleNXT Proposal/Whitepaper - Noble's 1st Colored Coin on: May 20, 2016, 02:53:03 AM
well at least we know he's still here, : Last Active:   May 18, 2016, 02:25:04 AM  , even if silent!!

that's good, maybe some news soon .... even just a 'Hi, I'm still here' would rally the troops a little
56  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: May 19, 2016, 02:09:21 AM
I bought Waves two different times during the ICO. I am thinking about getting more Waves before the ICO ends.

 Wink

Funny that we're in a Laffer Curve framework here. Too many BTC means too much dilution, but too few BTC means inadequate development funds in re the plans. I hope we end up near the optimum. Smiley

I think we're past the optimum now. Beyond a certain point increased dev funds do more harm than good, (why work too hard, we're already rich), combine that with IPO investors constantly whining that price is well below ICO, and you have a recipe for disaster.

Ideally what you want is hungry devs who can see the prize ahead, but it's out of reach, and investors supportive and active with the same feeling (the prize of increased marketcap is in sight, but needs time and support to achieve).

With WAVES I can see an avalanche of post ICO negativity as everyone who wants into WAVES will be so up to their balls, so price is heading south, and the devs tolerance for complaints, and hunger for 24/7 startup work ethic will not exist after a few months, as they're already rich.
57  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | Decentralize Everything (decentralized blockexplorer coming) on: May 19, 2016, 01:59:48 AM
BTW, now is the opportunity to buy.  Cool

That's the spirit  Grin

I'm interested in this coin, how many active devs?
58  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: AnonyMint Leaves the Altcoin Discussions on: May 18, 2016, 02:02:03 PM

Any explanation why he's been banned, and why is it
any different this time?

I want to know too, why ban the guy
59  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: HoboNickels - HBN - High Fast Stake - Version 1.5. Come on in the water's fine! on: May 18, 2016, 02:00:33 PM
A surprising amount of negative attacks on HBN over the last week.  Seems like a play right out of page 7 on 'How to accumulate crypto at bargain prices".


HBN is a good one so the FUD and negativity is a compliment really. Worry when the tumble weed blows through
60  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NEWBIUM - Crowdsale now open! on: May 18, 2016, 04:36:46 AM
when does the crowdsale finish? is there escrow?

nxtty was OK app

May 31st

Yes, there is escrow option.

Thanks! Who is doing escrow, any details?
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