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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Does anyone still think NXT is a scam? on: September 06, 2015, 02:54:07 PM
this is  non-mineable coins
How is that relevant to whether it is a scam? Mineable coins can equally be scams, because they massively favour early adopters.

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and developer can create new coin every day without think about maximal coin
No, they can't. The number of NXT coins is fixed. A developer who tried to change that would not have their software accepted by stakeholders.

(I'm assuming you aren't talking about the Monetary System feature of Nxt, since that's not restricted to developers. And because I doubt your knowledge of Nxt extends to the MS.)
42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Does anyone still think NXT is a scam? on: September 06, 2015, 02:49:22 PM
As a currency, well, a currency is a....consensus mechanism for trade/barter between individuals.  In order for it to accomplish that goal, hundreds of thousands, millions, billions of people have to own it.  The fact that most NXT was probably issued to an amount of people you can count on two hands originally, means the coin creator would need to be limited to two brain cells to think that's a valid or good idea.
It has to start somewhere. Nxt started with 72 founders. That's enough people that it doesn't matter if some of them are duds, and few enough to minimise bystander apathy. The problem with coins that launch with thousands of users is that most of those users will sit idle waiting for someone else to make their coins worth something.

Anyway, that's ancient history. It's clear that the Nxt developers have put in a vast amount of work since it was launched; way more than makes sense if it was founded as a scam. And the market price of NXT has been low for long enough that anyone could afford to buy some, so that initial distribution has long been irrelevant. I don't think there's any convincing argument that Nxt is a scam now.
43  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [Ransom]Ashley Madison customers are Paying over 100k in bitcoin to Hackers. on: September 06, 2015, 01:23:22 PM
I'm pretty confident that the database was hacked with the intent to extort (or to sell to a buyer that intended to extort).
That seems unlikely to me. Why publish the database in that case? Once all the details are out in public, there's not much potential for blackmail any more, or to sell it to a blackmailer. (And likewise, anyone who paid after the database was published, was trying to lock the stable door after the horse had bolted.) Most likely the blackmailers are not the hackers, but saw an opportunity to exploit gullible people.
44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The 2.0 throwdown thread on: August 17, 2015, 12:30:23 PM
"Block target time" is pretty meaningless. Nxt may target 1 minute, but it doesn't achieve it. Why not show the measured average block time instead? For Nxt this is about 1.8 minutes, or 104 seconds per block. For 10 confirmations you can expect to wait 18 minutes on average.

(Block 493582 was just before midnight on the 9th August, and block 499047 was just before midnight on the 16th, so 5866 blocks that week or 781 blocks a day over that period. I think that's pretty typical.)

(The reason the block-time is longer than was hoped is known. It's a coding issue that the devs apparently don't want to fix for now, because of transparent forging or whatever. If ever they do fix it, update the table then.)

(Sometimes the Nxt block time is vastly longer. I don't know how you'd capture that variance in the chart, but it's may be a concern if you are trying to base a business on Nxt.)
45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why is NXT not the number 2 coin? on: July 26, 2015, 03:32:17 PM
NXT is getting Anon capabilities. Enjoy people!

https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/coin-shuffling-design-decision/
Anon capabilities is not necessary. it can't help NXT too much.
                                                                                                                     
It's about financial privacy. Not anonymity. It's very much needed.
You see it right, but most of the people are just seeking for "anonimity",they don't understand why it is a good thing

How is Bitcoin less anonymous than NXT?
it isn't.

Yes that's it.. everyone says that NXT is more anonymous but I never knew why :/
Who says that? The first quote in this chain says Nxt is getting it, not that it already has it. Currently Nxt is far less anonymous than Bitcoin, because Nxt is based around reusing accounts. Adding shuffling will help, but it's not a panacea. Privacy will be compromised if you continue reusing accounts, and even if you don't it'll be subject to statistic analysis.
46  Economy / Economics / Re: Can bitcoin really save Greece? on: July 19, 2015, 01:43:55 PM
They could start a new crypto-currency.

Starting their own crypto-currency that based on nothing? BTC itself needs years before it is established like this and greece need a quick solution for their problem which means BTC will be the answer if only they could purchase it . Starting their own crypto-currency will be the same as starting their own FIAT money in the digital form because the goverment could "abuse" it and BTC which is already has all the feature of decentralization could be the answer for it rather than starting something which is still unsure of
They could start a new decentralised currency. People would trust it because it is decentralised and the government couldn't abuse it, any more than they could abuse Bitcoin. The reason it needs to be a new currency is that the government can't afford to buy BTC, or any other currency for that matter.

The government would declare that they'd accept it for paying taxes, and that it was legal tender for payment of court-ordered debts, and that would give people incentive to use it. They might also order bank's holdings currently denominated in euro to be converted to the new currency. Basically all the stuff they'd do if they left the Euro and switched to drachma. Bitcoin's slow growth is a bad analogy because Bitcoin was never sponsored by a government in this way.
47  Economy / Economics / Re: Can bitcoin really save Greece? on: July 06, 2015, 01:46:44 PM
Bitcoins will not be able to save greece. greece has gotten into a pit from which a virtual currency cannot pull it up.
Bitcoin won't. However, if Greece exits the Euro, they will need to adopt a new currency, and in order for that to work people have to trust the government won't abuse it. So there could be a reason to adopt a trust-free crypto-currency. They can't use an existing currency like Bitcoin because they don't have anything to buy it with. They could start a new crypto-currency.

As I am a fan of Nxt I will suggest that the best way to do that is by creating one within the Nxt monetary system. That could get them up and running very quickly, without having to find people to mine it.  Smiley

nope, the Greeks are faulty....they dont have working economic, the only reason they are not in a collapse already is the EU is giving them a huge loans....loans they cant return  Wink
Very little of the money loaned to Greece in the last 5 years has been used to help the Greek economy or the Greek people. Most of it was used to pay off earlier loans. In effect, the money moved from the public banks to private (non-Greek) banks. That's why the Greek GNP has remained in decline.
48  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Blockchain split of 4 July 2015 on: July 06, 2015, 01:09:05 PM
So does this mean we were 11% away from winning the wrong fork?
No. The invalid chain would never have been accepted by up to date full nodes, regardless of how long it got, because it was invalid.

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What i dont understand... i can understand using SPV, but whats hindering the miner to mine on the new block and verify the actual block in the meanwhile.
It sounds like they had code to do that, but disabled it because of a bug, and never got around to re-enabling it.
49  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: NXT Freemarket is the BEST available option for a decentralized marketplace! on: July 04, 2015, 09:24:51 PM
From an incentive standpoint, those kinds of people are the ones who'd be most interested in a marketplace that can't be shut down. Lower fees aren't the killer feature that many hope for, as eBay's high fees go with its huge network effect plus "Trust and Safety." The sad fact is, a lot of eBay clones have been launched and virtually all of them have failed for the same reason: no buyers to speak of. Sad but true.
eBay does add value in the form of a moderation service. Generally it favours the buyer, so you can buy with some confidence that you will get what you paid for, or your money back. That's important. Even the Silk Road was moderated, I gather (I never used it myself). The Nxt marketplace has nothing like that. It doesn't even have a formal reputation system. I'm not even sure if phased transactions help with third-party escrow. So it's far from a complete marketplace solution.
50  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Blockchain split of 4 July 2015 on: July 04, 2015, 08:51:29 PM
Can you explain what happened to transactions that were recorded in the unintentional hard fork, which failed?

Invalid, went back to original address.
Won't most transactions have been propagated onto both sides of the fork? If that happens, the same transaction would get confirmed on both forks and it wouldn't matter to it which fork won. A double-spend attempt could mess this up, but if the sender is honest, the fork shouldn't matter.
51  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: It's about time to turn off PoW mining on: May 04, 2015, 02:15:07 PM
Isn't PoS also difficult to achieve if a lot of coins are in cold storage? I mean how do you prove a node has control over a certain stake?
In Nxt this can be done by leasing one account's stake to another account. "Leasing" means the second account is forging as if it owned the first account's stake, but can't spend those coins or do anything else with them other than sign new blocks. The second account has to be online to make and sign new blocks, but that's safe because its own spendable balance is zero. The first account has the balance, but can be offline. The first account needs to create a transaction to tell the block-chain that it is leasing its balance, but that transaction can be created and signed offline and then the signed bytes transferred to an online node to be broadcast, so the first account's passphrase is never entered into a connected computer. It's always air-gapped.

Basically, this is a solved problem. It's the sort of thing you can do in a crypto-currency that has persistent accounts and a variety of transaction types.
52  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Launch of Nxt Marketplace on: February 02, 2015, 02:56:04 PM
I know online cam girls who accept BTC -- not that many, but I would like to see wider adoption by the internet porn industry. 
I gather one of the problems is lack of a repeating subscription feature. They want to sign you up and then you pay 20 NXT a month automatically until you cancel. No crypto-currency supports that yet. I hope it will be one of the things covered by Smart Contracts, or Automated Transactions, or whatever. It's a basic banking facility that would also be useful for paying mortgages etc.

When will NXT have Smart Contracts, or Automated Transactions? They are testing it but when will NXT get it out of test phase?
Probably later this year. I think it's at least 2 updates away, though.
53  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Cleanup: I'll attack some coins on: January 19, 2015, 10:33:09 PM
I'll tell you my theories anyway: the two PhDs who wrote that research have a clear nxt bias. Look at their hidden multibranch section: they say that they got 3/20 of 500 blocks with 10% stake. 3/20 of 500 is 75 blocks. They got 75 blocks! if people wait for 6 confirmations, I only need 6 blocks, not 75. So I can do with much less than 10% stake. Of course 10% stake means 10% of actively forging coins, which means 10% of 10% of supply. So, much less than 1% of supply to double spend. Of course that's still a few hundred BTCs for NXT so I'll start with a smaller coin.

I already bought a few coins... just wait until age is accumulated...
Nxt recommends 10 blocks for normal confirmation, 720 to be sure. (There's a rolling check point at 720.)

Generally Nxt has 40-50% forging, so 10% stake means 4-5% of supply.

Sure, thanks. But attacking nxt requires funding that I don't have. I still claim that it can be attacked with less than 10%
NXT may not have age since last transaction, but it has "age" since last block. It accumulates equally to all miners ("forgers"?), but I believe it can be gamed to obtain more than the fair share of probabilities of creating a fork.
I don't know what you're talking about here. Nxt makes newly moved coins wait 1440 blocks before their weight is counted, but after that their weight counts in every block. I don't know what you mean by "age [that] accumulates equally to all miners". The chance of forging a block does not depend on how long it is since the previous block you forged. It depends on what fraction of the forging coins you have.

What is your criteria for a successful attack?
54  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Fork off on: January 17, 2015, 05:53:42 PM
Miners aren't just gonna drop free money.
Sure they are. Because they know they'll make more money in the long run if the average fee increases.

Mining pools will help this. Without pools, miners will know that if they don't accept a given fee, some other miner will, so they lack the power to extort users. However, if a consortium of pools amounting to 51% of the hash-power agrees on a minimum fee, then (a) the other miners are likely to go along with that consensus, because they know they benefit in the long run; and (b) those that don't will find their blocks orphaned as the 51% reject blocks containing transactions that have too low fees. So the users will have no choice but to pay the minimum fee if they want to use the network at all. The only reason this hasn't happened already is that the block-reward is so high.

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When the block reward halves, the fees are not going to pick up the slack.
If they don't, Bitcoin is doomed, because eventually the block-reward will halve to zero and fees will be all that miners get. Some of the slack may be taken up by increased volume of transactions: which is an argument for increasing the block size limit, so that miners can make more money from the extra transactions.

Eventually the only options are to pay for transaction validation is to increase the fees, or increase the block-size. It won't be paid for by inflation forever.
55  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Fork off on: January 12, 2015, 02:31:25 PM
You don't see it yet because it isn't an issue yet, but there will be a market for mining fees. This is a much bigger threat to Bitcoin than the prospect of a bunch of poor nobodies having to actually pay for the seeming miraculous service of sending any amount of wealth anywhere in the world in an hour. You should better worry about the people who literally secure the network. Do you think they will do this work for free? They will not keep mining blocks when the block reward is no longer significant, and users will not make up the difference out of the kindness of their hearts. Supply and demand drive price. There is a finite supply of transaction space, and that is why users will include a fee. This whole hard fork drama is part of the bigger brain-damaged notion that Bitcoin isn't about money.
A larger block size limit does not preclude miners from rejecting transactions with too low a fee.

Miners are supposed to compete with each other, but that doesn't work well when mining pools are so dominant. Currently they have no real incentive to gouge on fees, but that will change as the block-reward halves and fees become more important. High fees are in all miners interests, so it makes some sense that they will collude on that. We will probably get some small fraction, say 5% of miners who accept low fees, which means a user paying a low fee will have to wait on average 20 times as long for their transaction to be confirmed.

Whatever. The point is that market forces will play out regardless of the block size limit.
56  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is Nxt open source? on: January 03, 2015, 11:55:33 AM
Nxt is open source. However, development happens privately and the source for a version is not published until that version is complete and released, so the process isn't completely open, only the result is.

The main repository is at https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt/commits. If you download and install the Nxt reference software, its source is included in ...\Nxt\src\java\nxt. You can inspect it, and then compile it, yourself before running if you wish.
57  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Proof of stake coin --- The pros and cons? on: January 03, 2015, 11:30:46 AM
I think POS promotes spending because of never ending inflation. Especially for most users who cant have computer on 24/7.
NXT has zero inflation. Miners make money from transaction fees alone.


Where do those transaction fees come from? The existing supply of coins? There are no new coins created to pay miners?
The transaction fees come from the existing supply of coins. Specifically, they are paid by the account that creates the transaction. No new coins are created to pay miners.
58  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Qora | 100% POS | Assets | Names | Voting | Open Source December 9 on: December 14, 2014, 12:28:09 PM
If we can hover around 15, I hope/speculate that an AT release could break through the current sell tension and push us up to around 30 sats.
I'm dubious, partly because past experience suggests that features are not what raises the price, and partly because the AT won't be a unique feature anyway.

What other coin has Automated Transactions?

None, yet, so far as I know. The basic idea is obvious and Etherium is based on it. Nxt is due to have 3 different implementations, one of which is AT itself. Burst will get it. AT is open source, so any coin that wants it can have it. There's a good chance Qora will be first, but it won't be the only one.
59  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Qora | 100% POS | Assets | Names | Voting | Open Source December 9 on: December 12, 2014, 04:29:44 PM
If we can hover around 15, I hope/speculate that an AT release could break through the current sell tension and push us up to around 30 sats.
I'm dubious, partly because past experience suggests that features are not what raises the price, and partly because the AT won't be a unique feature anyway.
60  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NXT vs BitsharesX on: December 12, 2014, 10:13:26 AM
IMO NXT is aimed more at the cyptocurrency community, with the new Monetary System designed to allow altcoins to be built on top of NXT quite easily.

Bitshares is aimed more at the world outside of the crypto community with support for the digital dollar and other pegged currencies.
Nxt wants to be all things for all people. It has a lot of features aimed at business, including a free marketplace and an asset exchange. Those things have been live for months and there are businesses using them. The Monetary System isn't live yet. It too is partially aimed at businesses. You can use it for crowd-sourcing capital and for gift-token type things.

Bitshares looks like smoke and mirrors to me, but the part that seems most interesting is its willingness to engage with regulators. I think eventually 2.0 crypto-currencies will need provision to conform to money laundering laws, eg with assets that can only be bought by accounts with a certified real-world identity.
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