Concededly, I have not really been giving out trust ratings, so I am not really that personally experienced to comment about the fairness of the situation.  But, I do see if you get in some kind of political battle on the forum, then you might attract red trust.


I concede that it could take hundreds of posts to become liked in this forum, and to participate in a variety of threads.  I tend to participate in Bitcoin related threads, because that is what interests me.  Of course, since I have been on the forum for about 5 years, I have also recently (especially in the last year or so) meandered out into other aspects of the forum, including meta. 

what I am trying to say here is that it can take a decently long time to get people to know you well enough to want to merit your posts, and of course, if you get into political battles early on and receive red trust, then it might become more difficult to earn merit - except by perhaps continuing those political battles and trying to get merits based on politics rather than just participating in bitcoin (or perhaps crypto) forum topics.


Merits seem to have helped with some of the spamming and farming of accounts.  I doubt that it is fair to assert that life is unfair because you happened to NOT be here in earlier days, before the merit system.  There is a kind of luck of the draw there, and yeah, there are likely a lot of high merited members who don't deserve such, but in the end, there is likely some value in trying to figure out ways to benefit yourself personally, whether that is spending less time on the forum, finding other places to spend your time or just contributing to the forum over time, and maybe in several years, you gain more and more credibility on the forum (if that is what you want to achieve?).

cryptohunter why are so nuts? stop pm'ing me

Are you being serious? You litterally accused VINSIN of being a scammer yesterday: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5104220.msg49503668#msg49503668

You even left him negative feedback twice. DT members tagged him for being an account seller, which is considered a highly dodgy activity.

Your attempt to buy a green account is a good enough reason to not trust anything you do or post.

cryptohunter, are you bored?

LAST COMMENT. if you would be nice on telegram or even reply to my messages you could have now for free a sr. member. now fuck off

you posted personal emails of people scammed by this scammer, most probably.

try and scream to anyone you want. this is shit already

anyone can use inspect element

dude, that's not me, it's so idiot someone to use 2 initials instead of 1  

believe me, not replying to this topic could do me more good than replying , it's good you got me drunk tonight, but it's not ok what you're doing

i still don't think you're someone from my competition

dude, riverons is my telegram username, that's sure! just texted you again! Stop it! you were scammed by a different person lol

I'm not going to defend Vinsin.  He readily admits to trading in accounts, and I don't trust account sellers.  Even if they have no ill intent themselves, they are promoting and enabling those who may have nefarious intentions.  But, in Vinsin's defense he's always been upfront about his dealings in accounts, it's his business of choice around here.  Scamming folks wouldn't be good for business, at least not for very long.

I agree with tmfp, your "evidence" that Vinsin scammed you is quite thin.  I'd guess it's another scammer who's using Vinsin's reputation as an account seller to lure suckers.  Again, just a guess.

Can you tell us how you initiated communication with the person who scammed you?

Pretty please. Nobody needs this here:

You are welcome to put in your own negative trust comment for the person who scammed you. It will show up when someone clicks on "untrusted feedback." However, anyone who is doing their due diligence when considering getting involved in a transaction with someone will check the "untrusted feedback" as well. By leaving legit trust feedback, even you, a newbie, can prevent someone else from getting scammed.

Wait wut? That's not me on telegram bro, dude you spoke with a scammer, my name on telegram is J.


MY USERNAME IS RIVERONS and I always use only J as name. Check my other screens

edit: I found the telegram discussion with this user here: https://gyazo.com/4346c9ff38d587d53600c72fd7b2bb82

He not even replied to my messages.  I will just ignore this topic. This happens when you're stupid

edit2: any buyer that knows me, know that i sell jr. at 40$ and members are 60$ minimum lol

edit3: On discord I usel Jlol and J also on skype.

Anyone that uses a different name is a scammer or just to impersonate a red trusted membere here (this sounded funny for me)

You are welcome to put in your own negative trust comment for the person who scammed you. It will show up when someone clicks on "untrusted feedback." However, anyone who is doing their due diligence when considering getting involved in a transaction with someone will check the "untrusted feedback" as well. By leaving legit trust feedback, even you, a newbie, can prevent someone else from getting scammed.

Instead of conforming to the forum's rules and standards, you're whining about it like a child and expecting the rules (and the forum) to accomodate you.  No one is forcing you to be here, and bitcointalk isn't some work-from-home employment service.  You'll get no respect here for trying to take the easy path to owning a higher-ranked account, and your opinions on how things work here only reflect your ignorance.

If you don't like it here, leave.  It's that simple.  Bitcointalk isn't going to bend to your will just because you got scammed and negged for trying to buy an account.  

You have 12 posts, gwsukabokepjepang.

You rank up based on merit, not trust. 

Of course, trust serves some kind of purpose, but in terms of merely participating in the forum and sharing bitcoin information, you don't need trust for that. 

You also don't need merit in order to participate in the sharing information aspects of the forum, but I will concede that ranking up is a kind of nice thing to show members who have both been around a while and have positively contributed to the forum (currently also as recognized by other members).

You don't need green trust to "earn", or - more importantly - to contribute positively to the forum. You don't need a purchased account for that at all.

VINSIN already has red trust up the wazoo so you're not gonna make any difference here.


Yes, it's wrong. Get a real job. You can't buy one of those, can you? I wonder why.  

Better only for scamming, because that trust isn't yours.