VINSIN IS A SCAMMER!!

[gwsukabokepjepang]

http://prntscr.com/mee0lw , his telegram username from PM is riverons
http://prntscr.com/mee158 , username riverons name R V
http://prntscr.com/mee09e, proof of my transactions
http://prntscr.com/mee4a5, and he is gone

i can safely say that all account sellers are scammers!!!

do not deal with this guy, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=840084

Luckily it's only $42.

this guy showed me his selly, just how many people he can scam?

i have been scammed countless times in my life, from MLM to this...

Every transactions on btctalk for now will be through third party escrow!

guys like this is a toxic to this forum!
More and more will not buy and sell from this forum anymore!

Update:
https://prnt.sc/mee158 He changed his username from riverons to riverans
http://prntscr.com/megwgm

now this J account is http://prntscr.com/megv71 riverons?
http://prntscr.com/meh2ls (the new account BS chat)

you think you can escape now?

so you scam 2 others before me?

http://prntscr.com/mehcnk (selly transactions)

this is the result of not having any real customers feedback! I wonder how many customers have been scammed.
To them, maybe if it's bigger amount then they will report! Maybe not all customers want to waste time. creating this kind of thread evidence takes lots of time.

And my real customers feedback showing as untrusted? Well done admins.
DTs have not even purchased anything from him!
Look, 2 customers were scammed by him because of this trust system,
and thats just 6 transactions. How many total transactions you have?
Each small amount will add up to a bigger one!


Even now DT tells me to leave the forums when i'm trying to help to improve the system.
This trust system is really messed up!

[1714773068]

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[actmyname]

What did you expect?

[Soha 1]

Id suggest you open a scam acussation on the correct subforum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

However I'll always advice using an escrow on any deal with anyone . Rather be safe than sorry.

[gwsukabokepjepang]

there are too many scammers in this forums...
crazy!!!

i don't know why he want to scam $42?
to get more red trust?

[mdayonliner]

I do not blindly follow the trust left by the DTs. I do manual review. There are some legit reasons to avoid this user. Some are...

SMAS blacklist; abusing Bitmixer campaign by post bursting and possibly alts.

still selling accounts!

Selling accounts is against the Trust system

Several times
http://archive.is/LxTxa
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5086031.0
http://archive.vn/4B8am

Over all, the user does not value the community value. You do not expect this guy to be trust worthy.

[suchmoon]

Shocking. OP, have you seen any bears shitting in the woods that you would like to report here?

[tmfp]

I know VINSIN is everyone's favorite bogey man account seller, but you are a little bit light on actual proof of anything, as far as I can see.

As a matter of interest, why do you need green trust on the account you want to buy?
I like your (translated) name btw.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

i don't know why he want to scam $42?
to get more red trust?

He probably needs to buy more booze.  Not joking.

On the other hand, I don't see solid proof that he actually scammed anyone here.  If my memory serves me correctly, this is the second thread I've seen claiming VINSIN scammed someone without actually proving it.  And if it was actually VINSIN who scammed OP, luckily it wasn't for that much.  Some people have to pay for a much more expensive education before they learn to 1) check feedback, and 2) use escrow.

Edit:  Ah, OP was trying to buy an account it seems.  Well, that's what you get.

[gwsukabokepjepang]

I do not blindly follow the trust left by the DTs. I do manual review. There are some legit reasons to avoid this user. Some are...

SMAS blacklist; abusing Bitmixer campaign by post bursting and possibly alts.

still selling accounts!

Selling accounts is against the Trust system

Several times
http://archive.is/LxTxa
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5086031.0
http://archive.vn/4B8am

Over all, the user does not value the community value. You do not expect this guy to be trust worthy.

i mean, so far the red trusts are given from DT members, so i think it's quite unfair.
you need real buyers review! And i can say that he is a scammer!!!

Yes, i agree, do not blindly trust the review given by DT. They maybe unfair.

I know VINSIN is everyone's favorite bogey man account seller, but you are a little bit light on actual proof of anything, as far as I can see.

As a matter of interest, why do you need green trust on the account you want to buy?
I like your (translated) name btw.

https://i.imgur.com/wcQZ87h.png

Having trust is better right?

and the translations is incorrect btw.

[suchmoon]

Having trust is better right?

Better only for scamming, because that trust isn't yours.

[gwsukabokepjepang]

i have added more SS to prove that he is a scammer! i am a genuine buyer.

[gwsukabokepjepang]

Having trust is better right?

Better only for scamming, because that trust isn't yours.

wait, how do you even know i will use the green trust account for scamming?
I think it's unfair to generalize. Thats the problem with DT trust system.
It's just wrong!

I want to earn honest income here. the problem is people like VINSIN who is a toxic to this forum.

is there even anything wrong with buying an account?
To earn like some side income?

[suchmoon]

wait, how do u even know i will use the green trust account for scamming?
I think it's unfair to generalize. Thats the problem with DT trust system.
It's just wrong!

I want to earn honest income here. the problem is people like VINSIN who is a toxic to this forum.

You don't need green trust to "earn", or - more importantly - to contribute positively to the forum. You don't need a purchased account for that at all.

VINSIN already has red trust up the wazoo so you're not gonna make any difference here.

is there even anything wrong with buying an account?
To earn like some side income?

Yes, it's wrong. Get a real job. You can't buy one of those, can you? I wonder why. 

[gwsukabokepjepang]

wait, how do u even know i will use the green trust account for scamming?
I think it's unfair to generalize. Thats the problem with DT trust system.
It's just wrong!

I want to earn honest income here. the problem is people like VINSIN who is a toxic to this forum.

You don't need green trust to "earn", or - more importantly - to contribute positively to the forum. You don't need a purchased account for that at all.

VINSIN already has red trust up the wazoo so you're not gonna make any difference here.

is there even anything wrong with buying an account?
To earn like some side income?

Yes, it's wrong. Get a real job. You can't buy one of those, can you? I wonder why.  

hello! you think now the job market is very easy?

And that's not a good valid reason,
this forum is flooded by newbies like me who cant even take part in signature campaigns,
because merit system is unfair also.
some are real and some are fake,
i can guarantee if it keeps on like this, this forum alexa ranking will drop below 50k soon!
The thing that is keeping this forum is really the founder!

I think the trust system really needs to be moderated!
It should be real genuine buyers that are eligible to give feedback.

[bones261]

hello! u think now the job market is very easy?

And that's not a good valid reason,
this forum is flooded by newbies like me who cant even take part in signature campaigns,
because merit system is unfair also.
some are real and some are fake,
i can guarantee if it keeps on like this, this forum alexa ranking will drop below 50k soon!
The thing that is keeping this forum is really the founder!

I think the trust system really needs to be moderated!
It should be real genuine buyers that are eligible to give feedback.

You can buy a copper membership to be able to wear a signature. Also, to earn merit, you can start making interesting, helpful, or entertaining posts. I am a merit source and I have done my best to distribute my merits around. There are 123 merit sources and many people who have earned merit and thus have some merit to distribute themselves. However, it appears that you want to go out and buy an account and take a shortcut. That's like faking a resume with someone else's credentials. It's not trustworthy behavior at all.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

because merit system is unfair also.
some are real and some are fake,
i can guarantee if it keeps on like this, this forum alexa ranking will drop below 50k soon!
<snip>
I think the trust system really needs to be moderated!

Instead of conforming to the forum's rules and standards, you're whining about it like a child and expecting the rules (and the forum) to accomodate you.  No one is forcing you to be here, and bitcointalk isn't some work-from-home employment service.  You'll get no respect here for trying to take the easy path to owning a higher-ranked account, and your opinions on how things work here only reflect your ignorance.

If you don't like it here, leave.  It's that simple.  Bitcointalk isn't going to bend to your will just because you got scammed and negged for trying to buy an account.  

[gwsukabokepjepang]

because merit system is unfair also.
some are real and some are fake,
i can guarantee if it keeps on like this, this forum alexa ranking will drop below 50k soon!
<snip>
I think the trust system really needs to be moderated!

Instead of conforming to the forum's rules and standards, you're whining about it like a child and expecting the rules (and the forum) to accomodate you.  No one is forcing you to be here, and bitcointalk isn't some work-from-home employment service.  You'll get no respect here for trying to take the easy path to owning a higher-ranked account, and your opinions on how things work here only reflect your ignorance.

If you don't like it here, leave.  It's that simple.  Bitcointalk isn't going to bend to your will just because you got scammed and negged for trying to buy an account.  

right, you got the easy way before the rule changes right?

You DT members will just gang up against us newbies.
Thats the fact.

[VINSIN]

Wait wut? That's not me on telegram bro, dude you spoke with a scammer, my name on telegram is J.


MY USERNAME IS RIVERONS and I always use only J as name. Check my other screens

edit: I found the telegram discussion with this user here: https://gyazo.com/4346c9ff38d587d53600c72fd7b2bb82

He not even replied to my messages.  I will just ignore this topic. This happens when you're stupid

edit2: any buyer that knows me, know that i sell jr. at 40$ and members are 60$ minimum lol

edit3: On discord I usel Jlol and J also on skype.

Anyone that uses a different name is a scammer or just to impersonate a red trusted membere here (this sounded funny for me)

[gwsukabokepjepang]

Wait wut? That's not me on telegram bro, dude you spoke with a scammer, my name on telegram is J.


MY USERNAME IS RIVERONS and I always use only J as name. Check my other screens

edit: I found the telegram discussion with this user here: https://gyazo.com/4346c9ff38d587d53600c72fd7b2bb82

He not even replied to my messages.  I will just ignore this topic. This happens when you're stupid

edit2: any buyer that knows me, know that i sell jr. at 40$ and members are 60$ minimum lol

edit3: On discord I usel Jlol and J also on skype.

Anyone that uses a different name is a scammer or just to impersonate a red trusted membere here (this sounded funny for me)

You and your BS.
I already SS our PM.

you are lucky that there are no real customers feedback! Until now....
i was tricked.. given the illusions that you maybe unfairly treated by DTs,
but with real customers feedback, u can't get away anymore.

Thats why i say with this trust system, more people will get scammed. Unless real customers showed up to give feedback.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

right, you got the easy way before the rule changes right?

What easy way did I get?  I was tagging account sellers and scammers well before I got on DT2.  I was airdropped 1000 merits when the system was implemented, but I earned the rest fair and square.  The way I see it, we both started as complete newbies and I chose a different path than you.  I didn't try to buy my way into a higher rank, I didn't try to buy trust, and I didn't buy merits.

You're just lazy and resentful that you got caught.  The problem isn't with the system; it's with you.