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wow - raffle after raffle - thanks ratimov
08 - ndalliard
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Saying "using Email is easier" you are just saying that "Email is a human readable string" ...
exactly. humans are creatures of habit. and you may not like it, but humans in general are more used to the form of an email than a random looking string. but in the end we will see if the lightning address is something that will find bigger adoption. also what fillippone said: it is opt-in, you are free not to use it. but i also like what rusty is doing with bolt12, looks similar to what the lightning address achieves, but with less dependency on the webserver (only needed once initially, for the lightning address with every transaction the webserver is needed) |
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If they insist on the decentralized ideology and also want from their users to send sats via email, they could setup their own email server and be at none's dependence. Those days are long gone, if you run your own email server nowadays, your emails will likely end up in spam folders. i run my own mailserver and my emails don't land in spam folders... are you talking from first experience? if so, maybe i can help |
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discussion about the lightning address maybe in this topic i opened about it |
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here is a little video which shows lightningaddress in action:  https://twitter.com/andreneves/status/1431411673915592709even though carlton banks thinks qr codes and uri's are fine to use. i find it easier to just enter an email address instead of scanning a qr code or entering a weird looking uri. and i am a technical person, i would assume emails are easier to use for "normies" |
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I just wanted to make this available here as I'm not sure many of us are aware of this recent feature in C-Lightning nodes.
yes, a few people started talking about dual-funding in this thread a couple months back, some even used it to make channels (apparently) it's still accessed using --experimental-features in c-lightning, so craeful craeful etc rath and me used it to open a channel and i think he used it again with someone else. even though it is marked as experimental, i think it is save to use. at least i haven't heard of any problems so far |
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If you open historical data on altcoins and switch to their Bitcoin price, you will see a different picture.
Well, if you buy with bitcoins, then of course. But buying altcoins with bitcoins is not the smartest move. Therefore, in the calculations, of course, you will be in drawdowns. There is not a single investor I know who would buy altcoins by paying for them with bitcoins. Any altcoins that you would buy with fiat would give you a profit. i agree with hatshepsut93 here. it doesn't matter if you buy with fiat or bitcoin. altcoins loose money compared to bitcoin over a long enough period of time and of course if you compare to fiat you might be in the plus, but would still be better off had you bought bitcoin with the fiat in the first place i agree with you ratimov on the topic of trading. sure there are trader who earn money, but it is the minority and most people will loose money by trading. pretty sure this is a fact |
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interessant - da bin ich mal gespannt ob und wie das umgesetzt wird - danke für die neuigkeiten hier noch der artikel von bloomberg ohne aktiviertem javascript und möglicher paywall: https://archive.ph/lJm1j |
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hmm, war das jetzt ironisch gemeint oder was meinst du mit "250 earned Merits"? also du bist doch legendary und hast mehr als 1000 merits. was beachte ich da gerade nicht? |
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i was yesterday listening in the bi-weekly c-lightning dev meeting and rusty explained something similar to the lightning address using bolt12. his implementation would only need to access the webserver once (to get the lightning node associated with the identifier like me@domain.com), can be proofed by a signature (if i understood it correctly) and after the first round only the lightning network itself will be used. using the lightning address proposed on the site mentioned in op, you would always request and get invoices over the webserver i like how rusty thinks about this topic, still using the web / the existence of email addresses to jumpstart and after that only relying on the lightning network itself - what do you think? |
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this seems to be moving into "The Lightning Network News"
oh, okay. when searching, i only came across this ln thread and couldn't find a separate ln thread for news   i ask then the mods (gmaxwell & achow101) to move my post then in the appropriate ln-news-thread - thanks  might be the news thread you are looking for - but don't quote me on that  |
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hmm, ich bezweifle dass der rückgang der nutzer an der forensoftware liegt, sondern wie schon erwähnt einfach daran, dass es überhaupt ein forum ist und es halt cooler ist bei twitter oder weiss ich wo es eben gerade trendy ist ich gehöre zu denjenigen die die forensoftware wie sie ist für super halte: ich kann das forum sogar auf dem terminal ohne javascript aufrufen und beiträge schreiben usw. ich bezweifle, dass das mit einer neuen software funktionieren würde was soll eine neue forensoftware bringen? geht es in erster linie um das optische / die erscheinung? oder welche funktionen vermisst ihr denn? |
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this seems to be moving into "The Lightning Network News"
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zahl - ndalliard
danke für das gewinnspiel und allen viel erfolg
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the internet is the network for information and bitcoin is the network for value/truth Completely unrelated. no it is not see below myspace was not the network, the internet is! I said that it's a social media platform, not a network protocol. Facebook is/was an alternative of MySpace and it got it over simply because the implementation of a social media platform was more dedicated than it was with MySpace. Same thing may happen with Zion and that activity pub you mentioned. right - and what did facebook and myspace both use? which network? edit: the network bitcoin uses the internet to transfer information, but adds the possibility to transfer value, which is not possible on the internet itself. what does zion add to the internet network? |
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I am not sure what you consider long-term but there are different currencies and languages, and depending on where you are, it's you who need to adapt and not the other way around. You can try and shop with your dominant USD or EUR or whatever in a particular country and see how far that gets you. When I was doing some work in Germany a long time ago, I asked my boss if we can speak in English because I am fluent in English and still learning German. She said no! We speak German here. In other words, you can take your dominant English language and shove it. She just said it nicely.
i am talking longterm. like looooongterm. globalisation, the internet and so on exists for a really short time wow such a great claim, did you know that you can get paid right now for your creation? as i said, the idea is stupid So what? Since when is more competition not desirable? If I buy my groceries at shop #1, I should never enter shops #2 or #3 even if they have the same or better type of offers and should consider them stupid for trying? competition is awesome. but shops are not networks. in a network you don't want competition. you don't want 10 different chat apps (maybe 10 different apps, but using the same network!!). 10 different languages. networks are about communication and again in the longterm we will settle on one way to communicate. for language and value And for comparison: MySpace was a social media platform which was made before Facebook while no one uses it anymore. It turns out that the greatest implementation of each invention is what makes the difference.
myspace was not the network, the internet is! the internet is the network for information and bitcoin is the network for value/truth |
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You mean cryptocurrency? Bitcoin is surely not the only type of money that dominates.
look into the history of money and you will see that there was always one dominating money - i meant money and didn't say it is bitcoin atm, i am pretty sure it will be after the dollar collapses, but who knows the future there will probably always be people who don't understand what networks are and therefore other monies, other internets, other social networks will exist, but as a minority... And what does that mean? That they shouldn't? What does it matter if the majority chose Facebook? That I should too? I may prefer using Google+ or Instagram. no - i don't care what you use and you are free to use whatever you want |
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I am not familiar with either Zion or Activity Pub, but I don't think the idea is stupid.
if you don't know what it is, how can you think it is not stupid? Besides, there isn't just one internet browser, there are many different types. There isn't one document creating and editing software, there are multiple.
social networks are like the internet a network, same with the telephone for example or language, or money (like bitcoin). there will be only one in the longterm (or at least one network which dominates), there will probably always be people who don't understand what networks are and therefore other monies, other internets, other social networks will exist, but as a minority... Zion claims that content creators can get paid for their creations and those who consume the content can get in on it as well. Compare that with traditional social media platforms, you get nothing unless you are a famous person with millions of followers. On the other hand, the platforms make money on your data and interests.
wow such a great claim, did you know that you can get paid right now for your creation? as i said, the idea is stupid |
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schade - nur für "full member"
ndalliard, ich habe dir vor kurzem geholfen, deinen Verdienstzähler auf 100 zu bringen, inspiriert von deinen Beiträgen im Lightning Network. Ihnen fehlt ein wenig Aktivität, aber aufgrund von Verdiensten und Kenntnissen sind Sie schon lange Vollmitglied, der Rest ist nur eine Formalität. Ausnahmsweise lade ich Sie auch ein, an meinem Gewinnspiel teilzunehmen. Entschuldigung für gebrochenes Deutsch. erledigt - das hat mich gerade fast zu tränen gerührt - danke!! |
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08 - ndalliard thanks for your lovely message in german  |
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