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I don't really agree with the disadvantages that you provided about web2 casinos, a trusted and reputable web2 casino will never ban their users without a reason nor will one have issues with withdrawals if they complete their KYC successfully. I also don't think that a good casino will steal your money or do anything with it as long as it is in your account and you haven't played and lost it.
And, the provably-fair system was first introduced by web2 casinos, so their games are also provably-fair unless the casino is new and not trusted in which case, not the whole web2 casino community is to be blamed because there are also casinos like Stake which you can take as an example.
How do we confirm that they are provably fair? |
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Web2 casino sites are still preferred by everyone because there is no need to connect one's personal wallet, which allows everyone to stay within certain gambling limits and protect their funds. KYC on Web2 Casino site is a bit of a hassle for everyone but everyone likes it. Nowadays web3 casino sites are not yet preferred by people so I think web2 sites are the best so far but with the advancement of technology everyone is trying to improve everything in that case considering you can set up your site on web3 because in the market There are huge amounts of web2 casinos out there so there are a lot of competitors Not your keys not your coin https://twitter.com/0xnbs/status/1666130116919930892?s=52&t=shA_rzsvc2hqA26wurRe0Q |
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Web2 Casino Advantages;
- More Games
- No technical knowledge needed
- You can print billions of dollars and giveaway
- You can let the influencers win high and advertise it
Web2 Casino Disadvantages;
- Anyone can ban you without reason
- Withdrawal issues
- KYC
- They can use your money(remember FTX)
- They can steal your money
- Not provably fair
Web3 Casino Advantages;
- No KYC
- Instant payouts
- Noone can ban your web3 wallet
- Noone can fool you with fake printed money and fake wins
- Provably fair through blockchain
- You can be the house and earn from casino profit
Web3 Casino Disadvantages;
- Less games
- Needs technical knowledge(using metamask, swap, bridge etc.)
anything I missed?
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Let me start from play stations. People are still using PS2 game station just because it is cheaper to the upgraded ones. Just the web2 and web3. People are still using web2 because probably it cheaper for them to play game so if you want to beat them you have to make some market survey from users and make some research from the net. And make your games in 4D/5D standard and let not your fees should not pursue your customers.
I understand your point. Fees may be a problem for players. Being on-chain requires a fee, but we will overcome this with Account Abstraction. Web2 users can log in with their social accounts and play games without paying a fee. We are working on it. |
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I think the answer is fairly simple: web3 casinos aren’t that polished just yet and web2 platforms simply work. If you can point out an example of a web3 casino that works flawlessly that doesn’t have any issues with law enforcement, then that would be great and we might as well try. That’s another reason why Web3 platforms aren’t as popular: they have potential issues with governments due to their nature that’s why people wouldn’t dare risk it.
True, also web3 don't have the trust of the community because most of them are accused of scamming and some are actually scamming their customers. Web3 isn't yet popular because the other existing popular crypto casino hasn't given us a reason not to trust them. Web3 projects doesn't have a good reputation as they're always under attack by getting breach. The popular ones we had turned out not to be totally decentralized so people are doubting if the web 3 casino coming out are decentralized as they say they're When decentralization fully takes over the internet and projects are built using trusted blockchain, making their web3 projects trustworthy, they'll begin to get customers making use of their casino but for now we still stick with web 2 that are giving us excellent service. While I agree with you on some issues, I disagree on some issues. The point I agree with is that unfortunately there is no clear law regarding DAOs yet. Although this makes it difficult for us to obtain a license, we continue to work in this direction. What I disagree with is the scam. With the exception of a few trusted web2 casinos, almost 95% can easily scam you and justify themselves. Not your keys, not your coin. However, blockchain casinos will never fool you. In Web3 Casinos, no one can ban you, no one can watch you because you are making too much money, no one can take your money, etc. Even if Web3 Casinos are hacked, users will not be harmed, only the bankroll will be damaged. Because the user does not deposit money anywhere. They play through their own wallet. |
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No, need and I believe other people are the same.
It's most of the time 90% always about the bankroll or policy, people do not really care about WEB2/WEB3. Since your main title thread mentions these, so that's just my 2 cent. It's not first time we see these.
Nothing new in my perspective, in the end (web2 casino) still winning.
When Uniswap first came out, a few people were using it, but it is now trading for billions of dollars. Many perpetual DEXs have appeared, and they are seeing more trading volume than almost any centralized exchange. Time will tell.
The moderators obviously have nothing personal with you or your platform, what they are doing is to keep the forum organized and keep every thread where it belongs, and since you said yourself that people can use wBTC (Wrapped Bitcoin) for gambling on your platform, that makes it an altcoin casino because wBTC is actually an altcoin and not the original Bitcoin.
So I don't see moderators being the bad guy here as they are doing their job, nor do I say that your platform is bad or anything, it is just that they did what should be done. For suggestions, I can't give any as I haven't used your platform yet, will do that once I'm done trying it out anytime soon.
However, there is only one gambling section on the forum. If there are some reasons not to let us use this board, then a separate board can be opened for casinos like us and so we will have a chance to introduce our platforms to players. |
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What will make you win the decentralization is if you create a browser wallet for Bitcoin to connect to your Justbet and they may move back your thread to the right space.
Seeing that they already replied reasons why it was moved out of the Bitcoin board, there is nothting to add more to it. wBTC is not even considered BTC.
Unfortunately, Bitcoin doesn't support smart contracts so it is not possible at the moment. I don't care web2, web3 or anything you are called. The main factor on gambling: Good platform, easy, can get my money in & out faster, have higher limit withdraw without KYC. Who care about web2/web3, we are gambler just want all these things. So, even you said web2 is worse. Not for me. Yeah, you're right about it. If we look at the feedback we received from the users, we understand that they like the UI/UX. Apart from that, we need more games to entertain the players and we are working on them. Also, there is no deposit/withdraw things in Web3 Casinos as you're playing directly through your wallet. |
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You don't want to take it against the mods but you're saying they don't like decentralization hehe. Why do you also attack web 2 casinos by calling them unfair and fake? I doubt most players would even consider opening your site with that kind of approach to promote your own.
There are hybrid gambling platforms here that allows connecting personal wallet directly to the casino while also giving players the option to login via email. Maybe try to look at them and see if you could adapt.
That's the next update we are working on it. Account Abstraction is the process of making it easier for users to interact with blockchain by customizing certain elements of smart contract accounts, from fee payment methods to transaction approval mechanisms. with AA, they will be able to connect with their social accounts, will be able to play without paying fee etc. Step by step |
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Don't take it against the moderators they have rules for admins of the platforms to follow so we have to accept that decision that your platform is not for this board your platform is smart contract based and it follows that it should be on the altcoin section where all smart contract based platform is housed.
Just get your smart contract audited if you cannot add Bitcoin you can still establish your position in the altcoin section, there are gamblers who support Web3 and don't try to compete in centralized casinos both have their own share of the market and followers.
No, we don't take it against the moderators, we just want them to reconsider the rules. After all, this is a centralized forum and they can rethink these rules and make a new decision. We feel that these rules prevent us from competing with web2 casinos. The audit processes of our contracts already have been completed. You can have a look at the link below. https://docs.just.bet/justbet/developers/audit |
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