for those who bought at $0.01 over 6 billion premined coins,i'm sorry to say that your coin's value has been dilute to $0.005 now because the premined coins is 12.6 billion ! Cheers! they are double up their premined coins,but......ＤＯ ＹＯＵ ＧＵＹＳ ＴＨＡＴ ＩＮＶＥＳＴＩＮＧ ＧＥＴ ＤＯＵＢＬＥ ＡＳ ＷＥＬＬ？....that is a question lol Cheers! DAMN ETN TEAM, see it for yourself then tell me what can you say.  878ec74ff5f305ba30df3bae5f84bc59c8cb8cfbcc3df12f58dd7e646999892b  What does this mean ^^ Looks like 1.26 billion ETN on three stealth accounts ?? I hope I am reading that wrong 10.26 billion premined!!!! this is far more than what they said is 6 billion! cheers! That was before when they expected around 10k users. Not over 300k. There is not enough coins for the mining app pool. Those coins will be necessary! So many noobs and FUD in here lol. Leaving until you all find something else to move on to. Wow. Good luck with the project devs, I will be supporting and holding my coins for the future. Hope all the teething problems are sorted out soon. This is correct. Its 12.6 billion coins 4.4 Billion to investors That leaves 8.2 Billion for mobile miners, which is perfectly fine. Wow, you guys just dont stop, lol. This was the plan all along. How did you expect the mobile miners to get coins?? show me the new announcement from dev-team then idoit!!! this alone is enought for a very big red flag!! I am the Community Manager for Electroneum. There is no announcement necessary. This was what they said would happen all along. If you are confused, I will help you, but my guess is you are just trying to spread confusion, as you have been doing for months on this thread. You can raise your Red Flag, but other than a few other trolls, I dont think anyone will fall for your FUD people who are investing on this ico were invest under the terms of 6 billion coins will be premined,dev team don't have the right to change the original terms bc it will invade the right of the investers!i forseen this coin will be flag as a very very big red flag and will be deny to be listed on many well known exchange,the most worse case scenario would be public law suit and these ico will treating as a scam project by the regulation agents!! and you contraband as the ETN manager you will also a criminal due to the role as a colaborator with this scam...cheers! btw..where is your lovely dev-team who is/are qualify to speak here and backed you up? NONE!! |
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I am reaching out to Cryptopia and requesting a trading suspension until ICO investors have access to their coins. I realize that my voice alone will not make this happen, but clearly the number of upset investors in here could have enough impact.
yes you should do this and all investers should do this as well,and don't forget to tell Cryptopia that dev-team premined(12.6 billion instead of 6 billion) far more coins than what they tells to its investers. unless dev-team compensate the investers the coins with the same percentage like the part of overpremined which is 100% in this case,they should definitely taged as a scam project and not to be accepted by any exchange out there. Cheers! My e-mail has been sent to Cryptopia, and I will update here if and when a response is received. I can't stress enough that all the way up to release day, the website stated coins would be released on Nov 1st. The "devs" have stated that password reset would occur after midnight. Coincidentally enough the website has been down since then. I feel there are enough upset investors here that we could lay some pressure on Cryptopia to take action. for those investers who feel cheated by ETN,take the actions now or you are just a person without righteous! Cheers! they are double up their premined coins,but......ＤＯ ＹＯＵ ＧＵＹＳ ＴＨＡＴ ＩＮＶＥＳＴＩＮＧ ＧＥＴ ＤＯＵＢＬＥ ＡＳ ＷＥＬＬ？....that is a question lol Cheers! DAMN ETN TEAM, see it for yourself then tell me what can you say. 878ec74ff5f305ba30df3bae5f84bc59c8cb8cfbcc3df12f58dd7e646999892b What does this mean ^^ Looks like 1.26 billion ETN on three stealth accounts ?? I hope I am reading that wrong 10.26 billion premined!!!! this is far more than what they said is 6 billion! cheers! That was before when they expected around 10k users. Not over 300k. There is not enough coins for the mining app pool. Those coins will be necessary! So many noobs and FUD in here lol. Leaving until you all find something else to move on to. Wow. Good luck with the project devs, I will be supporting and holding my coins for the future. Hope all the teething problems are sorted out soon. This is correct. Its 12.6 billion coins 4.4 Billion to investors That leaves 8.2 Billion for mobile miners, which is perfectly fine. Wow, you guys just dont stop, lol. This was the plan all along. How did you expect the mobile miners to get coins?? show me the new announcement from dev-team then idoit!!! this alone is enought for a very big red flag!! I am the Community Manager for Electroneum. There is no announcement necessary. This was what they said would happen all along. If you are confused, I will help you, but my guess is you are just trying to spread confusion, as you have been doing for months on this thread. You can raise your Red Flag, but other than a few other trolls, I dont think anyone will fall for your FUD people who are investing on this ico were invest under the terms of 6 billion coins will be premined,dev team don't have the right to change the original terms bc it will invade the right of the investers!i forseen this coin will be flag as a very very big red flag and will be deny to be listed on many well known exchange,the most worse case scenario would be public law suit and these ico will treating as a scam project by the regulation agents!! and you contraband as the ETN manager you will also a criminal due to the role as a colaborator with this scam...cheers! btw..where is your lovely dev-team who is/are qualify to speak here and backed you up? NONE!! |
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I am reaching out to Cryptopia and requesting a trading suspension until ICO investors have access to their coins. I realize that my voice alone will not make this happen, but clearly the number of upset investors in here could have enough impact.
yes you should do this and all investers should do this as well,and don't forget to tell Cryptopia that dev-team premined(12.6 billion instead of 6 billion) far more coins than what they tells to its investers. unless dev-team compensate the investers the coins with the same percentage like the part of overpremined which is 100% in this case,they should definitely taged as a scam project and not to be accepted by any exchange out there. Cheers! |
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[quote author=SirBurton link=topi
go read the announcement post,what they are promised is 6 billion coins premined ....not 12.6 billion!!!
are you taking too much of drugs that makes you blind ? Cheers!
btw i don't remember Monero have stealth address, or do you think this is a XSPEC clone? lol
bump! So what is the new technology in electroneum block chain compared to monero? is there anything new or is it just a monero copy? their white paper is not very honest about it... Watch out! Now they report you to moderators because you are telling the truth. Truth??? I have seen nothing in what you have said have any truth, they said in there white paper it is simulated mining, so they were honest there , this seems to be sticking point with your 4 IQ points there mate , anyone that thinks it was said to be real mobile mining, didnt read what they wrote!! DONG DONG!! since you quote the discussion that including my post...just tell me when i mentioned about mobile mining? go back to school and LEARN HOW TO READ please! Cheers! unfortunately your post was mixed in there and its obvious who it is directed at!! and as for it having new tech from what i have read it was the XMR code and after release they have one of the monero devs working on things, so for now i believe it is the XMR code !!! so yes I can read but like i said it was directed at the shill aka fracas No Need to defend yourself - this doremi turd has been spamming this thread and spreading lies andd rumors in his last 30 Posts here. Doremi talks, walks and Looks like a Spammer - so this one will also be reported. go report as much as what you like since you couldn't debunk the fact,i will keep remaining to the investers that their investment has been violated due to the "UNHONEST PREMINED(OVER PRINTING)COINS" Cheers! |
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[quote author=SirBurton link=topi
go read the announcement post,what they are promised is 6 billion coins premined ....not 12.6 billion!!!
are you taking too much of drugs that makes you blind ? Cheers!
btw i don't remember Monero have stealth address, or do you think this is a XSPEC clone? lol
bump! So what is the new technology in electroneum block chain compared to monero? is there anything new or is it just a monero copy? their white paper is not very honest about it... Watch out! Now they report you to moderators because you are telling the truth. Truth??? I have seen nothing in what you have said have any truth, they said in there white paper it is simulated mining, so they were honest there , this seems to be sticking point with your 4 IQ points there mate , anyone that thinks it was said to be real mobile mining, didnt read what they wrote!! DONG DONG!! since you quote the discussion that including my post...just tell me when i mentioned about mobile mining? go back to school and LEARN HOW TO READ please! Cheers! |
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24 Hrs have past since the launch of the best ICO in the history of Crypto. Things got out of hand in this thread , and i "blame" the community management team. Dont get me wrong guys. I blame you because you were too soft with the trolls, too polite. Too civil to 3-4 only people that made an orchestrated attempt to harm the coin and the community itself. This is the one and only "fault" , which is not entirelly theirs if we want to be fair since everything regarding social media/community management is approved by the management and follow specific guidelines AFAIK. But some things should have been avoided , in order to keep all things in order and prevent mass hysteria and FUD adoption. I am watching the thread from the very beginning , the professional trolls were using their unethical ways preparing the ground and started delivering mild hits a couple of hours prior to the official blockchain going live. For example , if you go back few dozen pages on 31/10/2017 minutes before midnight the Fracas-whatshisname troll was "Accusing" the company of being deliberately one hour late to the launch... ( which even if was true , SO WHAT?!? It was the blockchain going live NOT the listings!! ) The truth is that there was never a delay in the launch , but the troll was - or wanted us to believe that he was - in another TIME ZONE , FOR CHRIST SHAKE!! I live in eastern Europe and the Blockchain was live at UK time 00:00' 05'' , my time 02:00' 05" !! So someone must be really stupid , ignorant or just a paid troll to even imply of such a thing. Later on, the same troll , along most probably with his fellow colleagues ( numerous new registered accounts and other known scammers ) started an orchestrated attack , using false accusations and FUD methods aiming primarilly to the new crypto users, those who just entered the market, who dont know for example how mining is working in relation to the algorithm difficulty nor how a simple command prompt in a wallet application is written in order to make a transfer or start to mine etc. They are not tech savvy, so they were proven to be a rather easy "target" once all these issues arouse. The official site was down a few times, due to the number of requests to the server. This happens all the time even in major news sites guys , even Facebook goes down sometimes! It is not somebodys fault , it just happens due to high traffic and limited bandwidth. Pools too , same thing. Every single thing that went wrong had nothing to do with the Electroneum team. Even the mobile wallet's delay was caused because it of the hacking for christs sake. These things happen, we live in dangerous times and that is the risk we all take by being part of the Crypto market. You can win and lose everything in a fraction of a second. Other users were just blaming the miners of grabbing their money, for crying out loud!! But this is how mining works. This is how bitcoin became so huge. This is how the market was created and strengthened and this is the reason that cryptos are gaining mass attention and starting to gain ground in the last 2 years. Early miners were always taking the biggest piece of the pie , simply because this is how the thing works. It is innevitable. The algorithm's difficulty is low , so more blocks are solved. People are professional miners , having invested tens of thousands for this purpose , some are making a living out of it others dont , but this is the reality people. Whether we like it or not. Consider also that anyone can rent hashing power in order to mine and gain 100x profits , without really owning a "MINING PC". So the accusation of ETN team favoring the miners is NOT VALID. I mined with my GAMING PC for hobby , and got X profit in the 1st 2 hours. But when i rented hash power i got 10x profit with less than 30$ !! So , again , if someone didnt make profit the 1st 6 hrs it is solely his fault.
Next time try to be more prepared! Do your homework and profits will come 100%. With OR without the ICO coins. Consider this a free of charge advise.  We are all in the same page here.
This had nothing to do with the chance to have major early profiting from day 1 and was used by the trolls in order to manipulate you. My ICO coins for example are a fraction of the coins i mined with my PC and the renting hashing power. And i am gonna keep em because i believe in ETN!!!
So Simple.
Nobody can judge or accuse someone who is profiting from his work / strategy / ideas , it is unfair - unethical but mostly hypocritical since you would do the same. But this is nowhere close to implying that miners are stealing others' money. Or that the Electroneum CEO and team was behind this.Behind what? The 20.000 miners that participated and still participate and will continue to participate in ETN mining??!?!? This is crazy guys. They are just creating money.This is what mining is. Creating money. I will not also forget the epic delirium of another user , whom i "met" again few posts above , who was acting like a lunatic simply because Richard Ells crisis management team decided to protect its user base with a 2FA ( 2 factor authentication ) for our OWN ASSETS DAMN SAFETY. I remember him saying that " I DONT WANT THE PROTECTION , I LOST THE PASS , I FORGOT MY 2ND PASSWORD , NO EMAIL WAS SENT AFTER 15 HOURS" , and i really guys wouldn't decide if this behavior was the outcome of a plain stupid individual and/or illiterate person or this was simply another staged performance from a paid troll/fudster. One could simply check the spam folder , and voila there is the email. Checking the spam folder was also hinted in the users' profile in RED BOLD LETTERS , it is not nuclear physics!!! During the last 24 hours i bared witness of almost every single logical and senseless behavioralistic pattern from the majority of users , fortunately most of whom have an above average mentality and have acquired in their lifetime the precious ability to judge whether one is full of sh*t or not. But there were also a lot of panicked people , behaving irrational , confused people who believed everything the trolls were implying , thus creating more chaos and confusion. That might again have been avoided if the trolls were blocked in the first place. Unfortunately though , the trolls' attack continues and will most probably continue, harming all of us who are involved with our money to this really interesting , well marketed and solid ( unlike most alts and ICOs ) project. I really hope that whoever reads my post now and in the days to come will understand what i am saying i tried not to be more technical and wrote in a rather plain and simple way , and i am reffering to the new users/owners/ICO investors , and that he/she wil be clever enough to identify the fake posts,fudsters,trolls and ignore and report them. The crypto planet is not inhabited by angels, unfortunately trolls and fudsters are here too, being the equivalent to what the majority of us label as " common thieves". They just want to steal you.By inducing fear-doubt-uncertainty (FUD).You sell low , they buy low and sell high. Thats all. Invest to the coin, sell it later if you like and make some profit but always keep at least 80% to your portfolio because common sense dictates that this coin and the electroneum platform in general , will succeed in the not-so distant future. This post ended up longer that i originally had in mind , sorry for that , but consider it something like a voice of reason among the ridiculousness crescendo we witnessed the past 24 hrs. Good Luck to everybody on Friday , remember not to sell everything. It is for your own benefit. We own the coin , we are responsible now for any loss or profit we make , remember that for a transaction to evolve one is selling and another is buying. Before selling , take a break and think , " Why Is This Person Buying My Fear? ". Dont sell out of fear. Sell some when you are OK with it. wonderful. fantastic. That's the best thing I've read here for the last few weeks. very wise as yoda of starwars. did you know why ppl really angry at? hint: amount of premined coins.....Cheers! So you are not ashamed of yourself and continue to spread those lies. Ok I get it. I know you know the answer, but let me explain one thing just for the readers that might bump to this post. The moderator I think has ALLREADY REPLIED TO YOU IN PREVIOUS PAGE BUT YOU KEEP SPREADING LIES JUST TO BRING THIS POST FORWARD AND GAIN MORE REACH.. so typical amateurish tactic.. So listen, you are here? The amount you say that it was premined, the one you provided a photo too just to “prove your point “ , is 12,6 billion coins in from a block no.1 kept in stealth address. From those coins the approx 4 billions are the ICO COINS THE INVESTORS BOUGHT and the rest are the COINS USED FOR THE REWARDS FROM MINING FINDING A BLOCK. Of course you know that but ok, you know something? I respect your Job. I hope it pays you well man. I won’t reply again, just wrote it to reject your false argument. Bye bye. Ps: shame on you man. Really. Do something useful with your life instead of this dark tactics. go read the announcement post,what they are promised is 6 billion coins premined ....not 12.6 billion!!! are you taking too much of drugs that makes you blind ? Cheers! btw i don't remember Monero have stealth address, or do you think this is a XSPEC clone? lol bump! |
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they are double up their premined coins,but......ＤＯ ＹＯＵ ＧＵＹＳ ＴＨＡＴ ＩＮＶＥＳＴＩＮＧ ＧＥＴ ＤＯＵＢＬＥ ＡＳ ＷＥＬＬ？....that is a question lol Cheers! DAMN ETN TEAM, see it for yourself then tell me what can you say. 878ec74ff5f305ba30df3bae5f84bc59c8cb8cfbcc3df12f58dd7e646999892b What does this mean ^^ Looks like 1.26 billion ETN on three stealth accounts ?? I hope I am reading that wrong 10.26 billion premined!!!! this is far more than what they said is 6 billion! cheers! That was before when they expected around 10k users. Not over 300k. There is not enough coins for the mining app pool. Those coins will be necessary! So many noobs and FUD in here lol. Leaving until you all find something else to move on to. Wow. Good luck with the project devs, I will be supporting and holding my coins for the future. Hope all the teething problems are sorted out soon. This is correct. Its 12.6 billion coins 4.4 Billion to investors That leaves 8.2 Billion for mobile miners, which is perfectly fine. Wow, you guys just dont stop, lol. This was the plan all along. How did you expect the mobile miners to get coins?? show me the new announcement from dev-team then idoit!!! this alone is enought for a very big red flag!! I am the Community Manager for Electroneum. There is no announcement necessary. This was what they said would happen all along. If you are confused, I will help you, but my guess is you are just trying to spread confusion, as you have been doing for months on this thread. You can raise your Red Flag, but other than a few other trolls, I dont think anyone will fall for your FUD people who are investing on this ico were invest under the terms of 6 billion coins will be premined,dev team don't have the right to change the original terms bc it will invade the right of the investers!i forseen this coin will be flag as a very very big red flag and will be deny to be listed on many well known exchange,the most worse case scenario would be public law suit and these ico will treating as a scam project by the regulation agents!! and you contraband as the ETN manager you will also a criminal due to the role as a colaborator with this scam...cheers! btw..where is your lovely dev-team who is/are qualify to speak here and backed you up? NONE!! bump! |
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they are double up their premined coins,but......ＤＯ ＹＯＵ ＧＵＹＳ ＴＨＡＴ ＩＮＶＥＳＴＩＮＧ ＧＥＴ ＤＯＵＢＬＥ ＡＳ ＷＥＬＬ？....that is a question lol Cheers! DAMN ETN TEAM, see it for yourself then tell me what can you say. 878ec74ff5f305ba30df3bae5f84bc59c8cb8cfbcc3df12f58dd7e646999892b What does this mean ^^ Looks like 1.26 billion ETN on three stealth accounts ?? I hope I am reading that wrong 10.26 billion premined!!!! this is far more than what they said is 6 billion! cheers! That was before when they expected around 10k users. Not over 300k. There is not enough coins for the mining app pool. Those coins will be necessary! So many noobs and FUD in here lol. Leaving until you all find something else to move on to. Wow. Good luck with the project devs, I will be supporting and holding my coins for the future. Hope all the teething problems are sorted out soon. This is correct. Its 12.6 billion coins 4.4 Billion to investors That leaves 8.2 Billion for mobile miners, which is perfectly fine. Wow, you guys just dont stop, lol. This was the plan all along. How did you expect the mobile miners to get coins?? show me the new announcement from dev-team then idoit!!! this alone is enought for a very big red flag!! I am the Community Manager for Electroneum. There is no announcement necessary. This was what they said would happen all along. If you are confused, I will help you, but my guess is you are just trying to spread confusion, as you have been doing for months on this thread. You can raise your Red Flag, but other than a few other trolls, I dont think anyone will fall for your FUD people who are investing on this ico were invest under the terms of 6 billion coins will be premined,dev team don't have the right to change the original terms bc it will invade the right of the investers!i forseen this coin will be flag as a very very big red flag and will be deny to be listed on many well known exchange,the most worse case scenario would be public law suit and these ico will treating as a scam project by the regulation agents!! and you contraband as the ETN manager you will also a criminal due to the role as a colaborator with this scam...cheers! btw..where is your lovely dev-team who is/are qualify to speak here and backed you up? NONE!! |
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24 Hrs have past since the launch of the best ICO in the history of Crypto. Things got out of hand in this thread , and i "blame" the community management team. Dont get me wrong guys. I blame you because you were too soft with the trolls, too polite. Too civil to 3-4 only people that made an orchestrated attempt to harm the coin and the community itself. This is the one and only "fault" , which is not entirelly theirs if we want to be fair since everything regarding social media/community management is approved by the management and follow specific guidelines AFAIK. But some things should have been avoided , in order to keep all things in order and prevent mass hysteria and FUD adoption. I am watching the thread from the very beginning , the professional trolls were using their unethical ways preparing the ground and started delivering mild hits a couple of hours prior to the official blockchain going live. For example , if you go back few dozen pages on 31/10/2017 minutes before midnight the Fracas-whatshisname troll was "Accusing" the company of being deliberately one hour late to the launch... ( which even if was true , SO WHAT?!? It was the blockchain going live NOT the listings!! ) The truth is that there was never a delay in the launch , but the troll was - or wanted us to believe that he was - in another TIME ZONE , FOR CHRIST SHAKE!! I live in eastern Europe and the Blockchain was live at UK time 00:00' 05'' , my time 02:00' 05" !! So someone must be really stupid , ignorant or just a paid troll to even imply of such a thing. Later on, the same troll , along most probably with his fellow colleagues ( numerous new registered accounts and other known scammers ) started an orchestrated attack , using false accusations and FUD methods aiming primarilly to the new crypto users, those who just entered the market, who dont know for example how mining is working in relation to the algorithm difficulty nor how a simple command prompt in a wallet application is written in order to make a transfer or start to mine etc. They are not tech savvy, so they were proven to be a rather easy "target" once all these issues arouse. The official site was down a few times, due to the number of requests to the server. This happens all the time even in major news sites guys , even Facebook goes down sometimes! It is not somebodys fault , it just happens due to high traffic and limited bandwidth. Pools too , same thing. Every single thing that went wrong had nothing to do with the Electroneum team. Even the mobile wallet's delay was caused because it of the hacking for christs sake. These things happen, we live in dangerous times and that is the risk we all take by being part of the Crypto market. You can win and lose everything in a fraction of a second. Other users were just blaming the miners of grabbing their money, for crying out loud!! But this is how mining works. This is how bitcoin became so huge. This is how the market was created and strengthened and this is the reason that cryptos are gaining mass attention and starting to gain ground in the last 2 years. Early miners were always taking the biggest piece of the pie , simply because this is how the thing works. It is innevitable. The algorithm's difficulty is low , so more blocks are solved. People are professional miners , having invested tens of thousands for this purpose , some are making a living out of it others dont , but this is the reality people. Whether we like it or not. Consider also that anyone can rent hashing power in order to mine and gain 100x profits , without really owning a "MINING PC". So the accusation of ETN team favoring the miners is NOT VALID. I mined with my GAMING PC for hobby , and got X profit in the 1st 2 hours. But when i rented hash power i got 10x profit with less than 30$ !! So , again , if someone didnt make profit the 1st 6 hrs it is solely his fault.
Next time try to be more prepared! Do your homework and profits will come 100%. With OR without the ICO coins. Consider this a free of charge advise. We are all in the same page here.
This had nothing to do with the chance to have major early profiting from day 1 and was used by the trolls in order to manipulate you. My ICO coins for example are a fraction of the coins i mined with my PC and the renting hashing power. And i am gonna keep em because i believe in ETN!!!
So Simple.
Nobody can judge or accuse someone who is profiting from his work / strategy / ideas , it is unfair - unethical but mostly hypocritical since you would do the same. But this is nowhere close to implying that miners are stealing others' money. Or that the Electroneum CEO and team was behind this.Behind what? The 20.000 miners that participated and still participate and will continue to participate in ETN mining??!?!? This is crazy guys. They are just creating money.This is what mining is. Creating money. I will not also forget the epic delirium of another user , whom i "met" again few posts above , who was acting like a lunatic simply because Richard Ells crisis management team decided to protect its user base with a 2FA ( 2 factor authentication ) for our OWN ASSETS DAMN SAFETY. I remember him saying that " I DONT WANT THE PROTECTION , I LOST THE PASS , I FORGOT MY 2ND PASSWORD , NO EMAIL WAS SENT AFTER 15 HOURS" , and i really guys wouldn't decide if this behavior was the outcome of a plain stupid individual and/or illiterate person or this was simply another staged performance from a paid troll/fudster. One could simply check the spam folder , and voila there is the email. Checking the spam folder was also hinted in the users' profile in RED BOLD LETTERS , it is not nuclear physics!!! During the last 24 hours i bared witness of almost every single logical and senseless behavioralistic pattern from the majority of users , fortunately most of whom have an above average mentality and have acquired in their lifetime the precious ability to judge whether one is full of sh*t or not. But there were also a lot of panicked people , behaving irrational , confused people who believed everything the trolls were implying , thus creating more chaos and confusion. That might again have been avoided if the trolls were blocked in the first place. Unfortunately though , the trolls' attack continues and will most probably continue, harming all of us who are involved with our money to this really interesting , well marketed and solid ( unlike most alts and ICOs ) project. I really hope that whoever reads my post now and in the days to come will understand what i am saying i tried not to be more technical and wrote in a rather plain and simple way , and i am reffering to the new users/owners/ICO investors , and that he/she wil be clever enough to identify the fake posts,fudsters,trolls and ignore and report them. The crypto planet is not inhabited by angels, unfortunately trolls and fudsters are here too, being the equivalent to what the majority of us label as " common thieves". They just want to steal you.By inducing fear-doubt-uncertainty (FUD).You sell low , they buy low and sell high. Thats all. Invest to the coin, sell it later if you like and make some profit but always keep at least 80% to your portfolio because common sense dictates that this coin and the electroneum platform in general , will succeed in the not-so distant future. This post ended up longer that i originally had in mind , sorry for that , but consider it something like a voice of reason among the ridiculousness crescendo we witnessed the past 24 hrs. Good Luck to everybody on Friday , remember not to sell everything. It is for your own benefit. We own the coin , we are responsible now for any loss or profit we make , remember that for a transaction to evolve one is selling and another is buying. Before selling , take a break and think , " Why Is This Person Buying My Fear? ". Dont sell out of fear. Sell some when you are OK with it. wonderful. fantastic. That's the best thing I've read here for the last few weeks. very wise as yoda of starwars. did you know why ppl really angry at? hint: amount of premined coins.....Cheers! So you are not ashamed of yourself and continue to spread those lies. Ok I get it. I know you know the answer, but let me explain one thing just for the readers that might bump to this post. The moderator I think has ALLREADY REPLIED TO YOU IN PREVIOUS PAGE BUT YOU KEEP SPREADING LIES JUST TO BRING THIS POST FORWARD AND GAIN MORE REACH.. so typical amateurish tactic.. So listen, you are here? The amount you say that it was premined, the one you provided a photo too just to “prove your point “ , is 12,6 billion coins in from a block no.1 kept in stealth address. From those coins the approx 4 billions are the ICO COINS THE INVESTORS BOUGHT and the rest are the COINS USED FOR THE REWARDS FROM MINING FINDING A BLOCK. Of course you know that but ok, you know something? I respect your Job. I hope it pays you well man. I won’t reply again, just wrote it to reject your false argument. Bye bye. Ps: shame on you man. Really. Do something useful with your life instead of this dark tactics. go read the announcement post,what they are promised is 6 billion coins premined ....not 12.6 billion!!! are you taking too much of drugs that makes you blind ? Cheers! btw i don't remember Monero have stealth address, or do you think this is a XSPEC clone? lol |
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And i thought im new to ICO's and had trouble to predict certain things. Serious question: Why the fuck did you invest in an ICO if you dont believe in its future and furthermore: Why didnt you do your homework? Would you spend money in certain amounts in your real life just because you think you coooould turn profit without further investigation?
Seriously boys.. you make me laugh.
Its not even worth to write those lines here, coz most of those screamers wont read nor understand it anyways.
Good luck in future tho, i think you are the ones that really are in need of luck.
well said!when you don't even care the premined coins is up to 12.6 billion now instead of 6 billion and that shows how the naive you/they are. DAMN ETN TEAM, see it for yourself then tell me what can you say. 878ec74ff5f305ba30df3bae5f84bc59c8cb8cfbcc3df12f58dd7e646999892b What does this mean ^^ Looks like 1.26 billion ETN on three stealth accounts ?? I hope I am reading that wrong 10.26 billion premined!!!! this is far more than what they said is 6 billion! cheers! That was before when they expected around 10k users. Not over 300k. There is not enough coins for the mining app pool. Those coins will be necessary! So many noobs and FUD in here lol. Leaving until you all find something else to move on to. Wow. Good luck with the project devs, I will be supporting and holding my coins for the future. Hope all the teething problems are sorted out soon. This is correct. Its 12.6 billion coins 4.4 Billion to investors That leaves 8.2 Billion for mobile miners, which is perfectly fine. Wow, you guys just dont stop, lol. This was the plan all along. How did you expect the mobile miners to get coins?? show me the new announcement from dev-team then idoit!!! this alone is enought for a very big red flag!! I am the Community Manager for Electroneum. There is no announcement necessary. This was what they said would happen all along. If you are confused, I will help you, but my guess is you are just trying to spread confusion, as you have been doing for months on this thread. You can raise your Red Flag, but other than a few other trolls, I dont think anyone will fall for your FUD people who are investing on this ico were invest under the terms of 6 billion coins will be premined,dev team don't have the right to change the original terms bc it will invade the right of the investers!i forseen this coin will be flag as a very very big red flag and will be deny to be listed on many well known exchange,the most worse case scenario would be public law suit and these ico will treating as a scam project by the regulation agents!! and you contraband as the ETN manager you will also a criminal due to the role as a colaborator with this scam...cheers! btw..where is your lovely dev-team who is/are qualify to speak here and backed you up? NONE!! |
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24 Hrs have past since the launch of the best ICO in the history of Crypto. Things got out of hand in this thread , and i "blame" the community management team. Dont get me wrong guys. I blame you because you were too soft with the trolls, too polite. Too civil to 3-4 only people that made an orchestrated attempt to harm the coin and the community itself. This is the one and only "fault" , which is not entirelly theirs if we want to be fair since everything regarding social media/community management is approved by the management and follow specific guidelines AFAIK. But some things should have been avoided , in order to keep all things in order and prevent mass hysteria and FUD adoption. I am watching the thread from the very beginning , the professional trolls were using their unethical ways preparing the ground and started delivering mild hits a couple of hours prior to the official blockchain going live. For example , if you go back few dozen pages on 31/10/2017 minutes before midnight the Fracas-whatshisname troll was "Accusing" the company of being deliberately one hour late to the launch... ( which even if was true , SO WHAT?!? It was the blockchain going live NOT the listings!! ) The truth is that there was never a delay in the launch , but the troll was - or wanted us to believe that he was - in another TIME ZONE , FOR CHRIST SHAKE!! I live in eastern Europe and the Blockchain was live at UK time 00:00' 05'' , my time 02:00' 05" !! So someone must be really stupid , ignorant or just a paid troll to even imply of such a thing. Later on, the same troll , along most probably with his fellow colleagues ( numerous new registered accounts and other known scammers ) started an orchestrated attack , using false accusations and FUD methods aiming primarilly to the new crypto users, those who just entered the market, who dont know for example how mining is working in relation to the algorithm difficulty nor how a simple command prompt in a wallet application is written in order to make a transfer or start to mine etc. They are not tech savvy, so they were proven to be a rather easy "target" once all these issues arouse. The official site was down a few times, due to the number of requests to the server. This happens all the time even in major news sites guys , even Facebook goes down sometimes! It is not somebodys fault , it just happens due to high traffic and limited bandwidth. Pools too , same thing. Every single thing that went wrong had nothing to do with the Electroneum team. Even the mobile wallet's delay was caused because it of the hacking for christs sake. These things happen, we live in dangerous times and that is the risk we all take by being part of the Crypto market. You can win and lose everything in a fraction of a second. Other users were just blaming the miners of grabbing their money, for crying out loud!! But this is how mining works. This is how bitcoin became so huge. This is how the market was created and strengthened and this is the reason that cryptos are gaining mass attention and starting to gain ground in the last 2 years. Early miners were always taking the biggest piece of the pie , simply because this is how the thing works. It is innevitable. The algorithm's difficulty is low , so more blocks are solved. People are professional miners , having invested tens of thousands for this purpose , some are making a living out of it others dont , but this is the reality people. Whether we like it or not. Consider also that anyone can rent hashing power in order to mine and gain 100x profits , without really owning a "MINING PC". So the accusation of ETN team favoring the miners is NOT VALID. I mined with my GAMING PC for hobby , and got X profit in the 1st 2 hours. But when i rented hash power i got 10x profit with less than 30$ !! So , again , if someone didnt make profit the 1st 6 hrs it is solely his fault.
Next time try to be more prepared! Do your homework and profits will come 100%. With OR without the ICO coins. Consider this a free of charge advise. We are all in the same page here.
This had nothing to do with the chance to have major early profiting from day 1 and was used by the trolls in order to manipulate you. My ICO coins for example are a fraction of the coins i mined with my PC and the renting hashing power. And i am gonna keep em because i believe in ETN!!!
So Simple.
Nobody can judge or accuse someone who is profiting from his work / strategy / ideas , it is unfair - unethical but mostly hypocritical since you would do the same. But this is nowhere close to implying that miners are stealing others' money. Or that the Electroneum CEO and team was behind this.Behind what? The 20.000 miners that participated and still participate and will continue to participate in ETN mining??!?!? This is crazy guys. They are just creating money.This is what mining is. Creating money. I will not also forget the epic delirium of another user , whom i "met" again few posts above , who was acting like a lunatic simply because Richard Ells crisis management team decided to protect its user base with a 2FA ( 2 factor authentication ) for our OWN ASSETS DAMN SAFETY. I remember him saying that " I DONT WANT THE PROTECTION , I LOST THE PASS , I FORGOT MY 2ND PASSWORD , NO EMAIL WAS SENT AFTER 15 HOURS" , and i really guys wouldn't decide if this behavior was the outcome of a plain stupid individual and/or illiterate person or this was simply another staged performance from a paid troll/fudster. One could simply check the spam folder , and voila there is the email. Checking the spam folder was also hinted in the users' profile in RED BOLD LETTERS , it is not nuclear physics!!! During the last 24 hours i bared witness of almost every single logical and senseless behavioralistic pattern from the majority of users , fortunately most of whom have an above average mentality and have acquired in their lifetime the precious ability to judge whether one is full of sh*t or not. But there were also a lot of panicked people , behaving irrational , confused people who believed everything the trolls were implying , thus creating more chaos and confusion. That might again have been avoided if the trolls were blocked in the first place. Unfortunately though , the trolls' attack continues and will most probably continue, harming all of us who are involved with our money to this really interesting , well marketed and solid ( unlike most alts and ICOs ) project. I really hope that whoever reads my post now and in the days to come will understand what i am saying i tried not to be more technical and wrote in a rather plain and simple way , and i am reffering to the new users/owners/ICO investors , and that he/she wil be clever enough to identify the fake posts,fudsters,trolls and ignore and report them. The crypto planet is not inhabited by angels, unfortunately trolls and fudsters are here too, being the equivalent to what the majority of us label as " common thieves". They just want to steal you.By inducing fear-doubt-uncertainty (FUD).You sell low , they buy low and sell high. Thats all. Invest to the coin, sell it later if you like and make some profit but always keep at least 80% to your portfolio because common sense dictates that this coin and the electroneum platform in general , will succeed in the not-so distant future. This post ended up longer that i originally had in mind , sorry for that , but consider it something like a voice of reason among the ridiculousness crescendo we witnessed the past 24 hrs. Good Luck to everybody on Friday , remember not to sell everything. It is for your own benefit. We own the coin , we are responsible now for any loss or profit we make , remember that for a transaction to evolve one is selling and another is buying. Before selling , take a break and think , " Why Is This Person Buying My Fear? ". Dont sell out of fear. Sell some when you are OK with it. wonderful. fantastic. That's the best thing I've read here for the last few weeks. very wise as yoda of starwars. did you know why ppl really angry at? hint: amount of premined coins.....Cheers! |
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Electroneum has broken another 2 world records - fastest moving thread in history, like 5 pages an hour at some points today - most supporters turned against it in 48 hours  Tomorrow we will break another one Most people pissed off at a coin change their mind and love it in 24 hours. Those ETN coins are a powerful drug!! you forgot another records: 99.99% price droping at the first day trading on Cryptopia! Cheers! |
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DAMN ETN TEAM, see it for yourself then tell me what can you say. 878ec74ff5f305ba30df3bae5f84bc59c8cb8cfbcc3df12f58dd7e646999892b What does this mean ^^ Looks like 1.26 billion ETN on three stealth accounts ?? I hope I am reading that wrong 10.26 billion premined!!!! this is far more than what they said is 6 billion! cheers! That was before when they expected around 10k users. Not over 300k. There is not enough coins for the mining app pool. Those coins will be necessary! So many noobs and FUD in here lol. Leaving until you all find something else to move on to. Wow. Good luck with the project devs, I will be supporting and holding my coins for the future. Hope all the teething problems are sorted out soon. This is correct. Its 12.6 billion coins 4.4 Billion to investors That leaves 8.2 Billion for mobile miners, which is perfectly fine. Wow, you guys just dont stop, lol. This was the plan all along. How did you expect the mobile miners to get coins?? show me the new announcement from dev-team then idoit!!! this alone is enought for a very big red flag!! I am the Community Manager for Electroneum. There is no announcement necessary. This was what they said would happen all along. If you are confused, I will help you, but my guess is you are just trying to spread confusion, as you have been doing for months on this thread. You can raise your Red Flag, but other than a few other trolls, I dont think anyone will fall for your FUD people who are investing on this ico were invest under the terms of 6 billion coins will be premined,dev team don't have the right to change the original terms bc it will invade the right of the investers!i forseen this coin will be flag as a very very big red flag and will be deny to be listed on many well known exchange,the most worse case scenario would be public law suit and these ico will treating as a scam project by the regulation agents!! and you contraband as the ETN manager you will also a criminal due to the role as a colaborator with this scam...cheers! btw..where is your lovely dev-team who is/are qualify to speak here and backed you up? NONE!! |
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i don't give a shit if you can access to your wallet or not...but i do care when you and dev-team running a scam project.Cheers!
you really can't stop spamming if you dont give a sht about our wallets, how could you give a sht about the scam project? the answer is simple: bc you guys were pissing me off and call me a FUD when i try to asked some legit questions since september.Cheers! there are different ways of asking question. There is a difference between asking and "first call it a scam , and then ask" However asking question is great, you have done a good job if you have ask questions. But you should also understand that the team is overloaded with work...Give them a break, just some time, a couple of days before accusations(which are different then questions) do you know when i started to call this project a scam?TODAY! so,don't act like you know everything before research,its just make you looks like a joke. Cheers! |
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i don't give a shit if you can access to your wallet or not...but i do care when you and dev-team running a scam project.Cheers!
you really can't stop spamming if you dont give a sht about our wallets, how could you give a sht about the scam project? the answer is simple: bc you guys were pissing me off and call me a FUD when i try to asked some legit questions since september.Cheers! |
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DAMN ETN TEAM, see it for yourself then tell me what can you say. 878ec74ff5f305ba30df3bae5f84bc59c8cb8cfbcc3df12f58dd7e646999892b What does this mean ^^ Looks like 1.26 billion ETN on three stealth accounts ?? I hope I am reading that wrong 10.26 billion premined!!!! this is far more than what they said is 6 billion! cheers! That was before when they expected around 10k users. Not over 300k. There is not enough coins for the mining app pool. Those coins will be necessary! So many noobs and FUD in here lol. Leaving until you all find something else to move on to. Wow. Good luck with the project devs, I will be supporting and holding my coins for the future. Hope all the teething problems are sorted out soon. This is correct. Its 12.6 billion coins 4.4 Billion to investors That leaves 8.2 Billion for mobile miners, which is perfectly fine. Wow, you guys just dont stop, lol. This was the plan all along. How did you expect the mobile miners to get coins?? show me the new announcement from dev-team then idoit!!! this alone is enought for a very big red flag!! I am the Community Manager for Electroneum. There is no announcement necessary. This was what they said would happen all along. If you are confused, I will help you, but my guess is you are just trying to spread confusion, as you have been doing for months on this thread. You can raise your Red Flag, but other than a few other trolls, I dont think anyone will fall for your FUD Please stop saying that you are the community manager of electroneum, you only mod the telegram group and you are not even an employee of the company. I am the Community Manager for ETN, handling the admin responsibilities here on Bitcointalk for Richard. I am on Telegram, but I am not a mod or admin there. No, I do not work for the company, that is correct. I know you want access to your wallets, and as an investor also myself, so do I. The devs are protecting us. It is that simple. We will have access to our wallets by Friday. Then, those of you so eagar to sell can do so. Until then please be patient. i don't give a shit if you can access to your wallet or not...but i do care when you and dev-team running a scam project.Cheers! |
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@doremi Give it a break man They said that will unlock the wallets tomorrow. so cmon   you can't read well i see..can you? |
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can anyone tell me the total coin supply ? i mean can we expect ETN to reach 1$ or more than 1$ after one year ?
total supply is 21 billion circulating supply is about 4.5 billions 1$ in a year?, i dont know , but i really hope so yo!another wannabe and you are welcome on the scammers list!cheers DAMN ETN TEAM, see it for yourself then tell me what can you say. 878ec74ff5f305ba30df3bae5f84bc59c8cb8cfbcc3df12f58dd7e646999892b What does this mean ^^ Looks like 1.26 billion ETN on three stealth accounts ?? I hope I am reading that wrong 10.26 billion premined!!!! this is far more than what they said is 6 billion! cheers! That was before when they expected around 10k users. Not over 300k. There is not enough coins for the mining app pool. Those coins will be necessary! So many noobs and FUD in here lol. Leaving until you all find something else to move on to. Wow. Good luck with the project devs, I will be supporting and holding my coins for the future. Hope all the teething problems are sorted out soon. This is correct. Its 12.6 billion coins 4.4 Billion to investors That leaves 8.2 Billion for mobile miners, which is perfectly fine. Wow, you guys just dont stop, lol. This was the plan all along. How did you expect the mobile miners to get coins?? show me the new announcement from dev-team then idoit!!! this alone is enought for a very big red flag!! I am the Community Manager for Electroneum. There is no announcement necessary. This was what they said would happen all along. If you are confused, I will help you, but my guess is you are just trying to spread confusion, as you have been doing for months on this thread. You can raise your Red Flag, but other than a few other trolls, I dont think anyone will fall for your FUD people who are investing on this ico were invest under the terms of 6 billion coins will be premined,dev team don't have the right to change the original terms bc it will invade the right of the investers!i forseen this coin will be flag as a very very big red flag and will be deny to be listed on many well known exchange,the most worse case scenario would be public law suit and these ico will treating as a scam project by the regulation agents!! and you contraband as the ETN manager you will also a criminal due to the role as a colaborator with this scam...cheers! btw..where is your lovely dev-team who is/are qualify to speak here and backed you up? NONE!! |
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DAMN ETN TEAM, see it for yourself then tell me what can you say. 878ec74ff5f305ba30df3bae5f84bc59c8cb8cfbcc3df12f58dd7e646999892b What does this mean ^^ Looks like 1.26 billion ETN on three stealth accounts ?? I hope I am reading that wrong 10.26 billion premined!!!! this is far more than what they said is 6 billion! cheers! That was before when they expected around 10k users. Not over 300k. There is not enough coins for the mining app pool. Those coins will be necessary! So many noobs and FUD in here lol. Leaving until you all find something else to move on to. Wow. Good luck with the project devs, I will be supporting and holding my coins for the future. Hope all the teething problems are sorted out soon. This is correct. Its 12.6 billion coins 4.4 Billion to investors That leaves 8.2 Billion for mobile miners, which is perfectly fine. Wow, you guys just dont stop, lol. This was the plan all along. How did you expect the mobile miners to get coins?? show me the new announcement from dev-team then idoit!!! this alone is enought for a very big red flag!! I am the Community Manager for Electroneum. There is no announcement necessary. This was what they said would happen all along. If you are confused, I will help you, but my guess is you are just trying to spread confusion, as you have been doing for months on this thread. You can raise your Red Flag, but other than a few other trolls, I dont think anyone will fall for your FUD Please stop saying that you are the community manager of electroneum, you only mod the telegram group and you are not even an employee of the company. hi jinglebros aka contraband,it is too late to cut your relationship with this scam project now...cheers! |
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DAMN ETN TEAM, see it for yourself then tell me what can you say. 878ec74ff5f305ba30df3bae5f84bc59c8cb8cfbcc3df12f58dd7e646999892b What does this mean ^^ Looks like 1.26 billion ETN on three stealth accounts ?? I hope I am reading that wrong 10.26 billion premined!!!! this is far more than what they said is 6 billion! cheers! That was before when they expected around 10k users. Not over 300k. There is not enough coins for the mining app pool. Those coins will be necessary! So many noobs and FUD in here lol. Leaving until you all find something else to move on to. Wow. Good luck with the project devs, I will be supporting and holding my coins for the future. Hope all the teething problems are sorted out soon. This is correct. Its 12.6 billion coins 4.4 Billion to investors That leaves 8.2 Billion for mobile miners, which is perfectly fine. Wow, you guys just dont stop, lol. This was the plan all along. How did you expect the mobile miners to get coins?? show me the new announcement from dev-team then idoit!!! this alone is enought for a very big red flag!! I am the Community Manager for Electroneum. There is no announcement necessary. This was what they said would happen all along. If you are confused, I will help you, but my guess is you are just trying to spread confusion, as you have been doing for months on this thread. You can raise your Red Flag, but other than a few other trolls, I dont think anyone will fall for your FUD people who are investing on this ico were invest under the terms of 6 billion coins will be premined,dev team don't have the right to change the original terms bc it will invade the right of the investers!i forseen this coin will be flag as a very very big red flag and will be deny to be listed on many well known exchange,the most worse case scenario would be public law suit and these ico will treating as a scam project by the regulation agents!! and you contraband as the ETN manager you will also a criminal due to the role as a colaborator with this scam...cheers! btw..where is your lovely dev-team who is/are qualify to speak here and backed you up? NONE!! |
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