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41  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What Will You Do If You Are Trap On A SHIT Coin ? Or Low Volume Coin on: November 09, 2017, 03:28:35 PM
Huh Huh This Past Day I was Trap At SW Coin or Sky Way Coin is there any possibilities of holding it ?

I am not familiar with that coin. But I say I am in the current situation. I have a coin and I am holding it for almost four months.im It pumps two times but in that time I am so very in school since I am a student and I set my study priority. So I missed it. Now the I am nit busy its price goes down and down and down. I feel sad at all. I do not know if I am doing the right now, I still wait for the another pump I check the price every day but in the market it is still red. I wonder if it will recover or not. If tes how? When?. It is now 0.4 dollar from its 0.8$ . I am thinking of setting its value on the exchanger but I do not how much will I set it.
Sorry to hear that.  I applaud you for prioritizing your schoolwork.  You don't want to give up the important things in life for crypto trading.  In the future, though, I would suggest that you only invest in coins when you have time to follow them closely, at least if you're looking for a short-term profit.  If you're in it for the long haul, then that's fine.  But any time you're trying to make a quick profit, you need to be able to dedicate a lot of time to watching the charts.  I hope everything works out for you.
42  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What Will You Do If You Are Trap On A SHIT Coin ? Or Low Volume Coin on: November 09, 2017, 02:02:54 AM
Huh Huh This Past Day I was Trap At SW Coin or Sky Way Coin is there any possibilities of holding it ?

Well in the first place if you do analyze the market well, then this thing should not happen. Trading is risky so make your study first before you make action, i suggest if you loose not much money their then sell it right away, there is no reason to hold that coin for long term, Instead try to buy more valuable altcoins or btc than that.
I wouldn't say that analysis can prevent such things from happening ever.  Certainly doing some in-depth research before investing in a coin will save you from most scams and/or coins that simply aren't going to be worth anything.  But there are always going to be people who put a lot of effort into making their scam coin look good.  After all, the payoff could easily be in the millions.
43  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bubble or Not? on: November 09, 2017, 01:40:34 AM
I'm tired of hearing and reading it that everyone who's speculating about bitcoin is a bubble. I just entered in the bitcoin scene somewhere on the mid's of 2015 and I've been reading a lot of people publishing articles that bitcoin is a bubble. Are they getting tired of saying about the burst of the bubble? If everyone is assuming that bitcoin is a bubble then many won't be holding that much until the price popped too quick but no, this is a real demand and market.
Yes, there have indeed been many articles, bitcointalk threads, and public proclamations that bitcoin is in a bubble.  It does start to get somewhat old, but, for better or worse, as long as price keeps going up at a fast pace, many will keep screaming bubble since such headlines grab readers' attention, instill fear and doubt (and hence drama), etc.  However, this isn't necessarily a bad thing.  Fears of a bubble/crash probably slow down investment somewhat and keep the market from overheating too much.  If everyone believed that bitcoin was the perfect investment, they would all go out and invest, we'd get the craziest spike ever, and then we'd have the craziest crash ever because there wouldn't be anyone left to buy.  Ignore the media noise, stay the course, and practice smart investing principles.
44  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is B2X already priced in? on: November 08, 2017, 05:58:13 AM
There is still time left and I do not think the segwit2x fork is completely priced in already, since there may be more news that may affect whether the fork is going to happen at all.
Oh yes.  From what I've read, it sounds like there's still a lot of uncertainty.  There appears to be a contingent of veteran bitcoiners who seem to be sure that segwit2x doesn't stand a chance.  They make some good points, and I hope they're right.  While I want faster transactions and lower fees, I think the best thing for bitcoin would be for segwit2x to die a very quick death (or at least show that it's not going to replace BTC).  Market price will probably determine everything.  And while B2X futures spiked to around 1/3 of a bitcoin a few days ago, they've steadily declined back to around 1/5 since then.  As long as the price of B2X doesn't support many miners, it won't take hold.
45  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is B2X already priced in? on: November 08, 2017, 03:02:32 AM
For sure,a big confusion is awaiting for the bitcoin community this month when segwit 2x will be activated.
Definitely,new investors would get totally confused about which would be the true bitcoin.
New investors definitely stand a good chance of getting confused, but even veterans may have some issues.  It's taken me some time to get a handle on all the aspects of the fork and the politics behind it.

It would affect the reputation of bitcoin.
This, I think, will depend on which fork "wins."  If BTC continues to dominate, it will likely get even stronger as this ordeal will instill confidence in its resiliency.  If B2X wins, it may severely damage the reputation of bitcoin as such an event will be seen by many as a hostile takeover/coup.

The aspect which is worrying is that segwit 2x has almost 85% of hash rate.
While many miners and merchants have indicated support, such support may evaporate quickly if the rest of the community doesn't follow.
46  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bubble or Not? on: November 08, 2017, 02:44:49 AM
Its funny..Everyone saying how Bitcoin is to replace the current money ruled by the government. But the only reason Bitcoin is traded to gain the money everyone was so against.

So you noticed that, too, huh?  Those bitcoin ideals went out the window about $6000 ago.  Wink  I think that a lot of the core believers/first adopters of bitcoin probably still cling to those ideals.  But most people involved in bitcoin now are here to make (fiat) money.

Who wants to invest thousands of $$ in a commodity that has no safe guards to prevent theft.

As long as you secure your own bitcoin, it's one of the safest investments you can have.  I worry more about losing my bitcoin (sending it to the wrong address, forgetting my passwords, etc.) than about it being stolen.
47  Economy / Economics / Re: What will happen if the government know bitcoin in your country? on: November 08, 2017, 02:23:31 AM
With a few exceptions (like probably China and maybe Venezuela and Russia), I don't think that most governments see bitcoin as a threat to their power.  Where they do try to regulate it, I think they're more concerned about the potential for abuse (e.g., fraud, money laundering, etc.), as well as scams (e.g., a lot of ICOs).
48  Economy / Speculation / Re: [Bearish] The Dangerous Reason Why Bitcoin Just Hit Yet Another New High on: November 05, 2017, 06:07:37 AM
Of course they come into the market to make money, and what is wrong about that ? That is just what about any trader makes. If you are not trading bitcoins yourself on this platform, you risk absolutely nothing. And this being said, I am not sure there is any actual risk, of any nature with those newcomers.
You're talking about the futures contract that the CME group is going to introduce, correct?  First, that is a pure derivative.  There will be no actual bitcoin trading through CME.  But that doesn't mean that it won't have a huge impact on bitcoin.  A bitcoin futures contract will allow large financial institutions to easily take a particular side (price will go up or it will go down).  Once they do that, they could make up all kinds of news/FUD to manipulate bitcoin into going the direction they want it to go so they make money on their contracts.  They might also find ways to buy into bitcoin directly in large amounts and hoard/dump coins at the right times to make their futures contracts more profitable.
49  Economy / Speculation / Re: [Bearish] The Dangerous Reason Why Bitcoin Just Hit Yet Another New High on: November 04, 2017, 06:52:31 PM
Dude this is just a small rise you can say . I don't think that bankers can manipulate much of this . But basically I feel that if wall Street and involve in Bitcoin then you will see all new level of Bitcoin.
It's not huge yet, but I think their power over bitcoin is growing.  The more they become interested in it, the more influence they will have over it, for better or for worse.  Right now, it's simply a question of whether or not the big banks will get involved.  The more they talk about doing so, the more bitcoin's price is going to go up because that will further legitimize bitcoin and increase adoption, not to mention bring in millions--maybe even billions--of dollars in investment money.  The more the banks shun it, the more negative the impact will be on price, now that more people are thinking that big banks will get involved at some point in the near future.
50  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is over 7000$ Should i invest now? on: November 04, 2017, 03:09:59 AM
My advice is to wait a little bit and see what happens.  We've had a huge run-up in the last several days.  And if you look back for about a week at an intraday chart (like the hourly or 30-minute), you can draw an almost perfect trendline under price starting around $5800 and going all the way up to about $7200.  That trendline was just broken about 7 hours ago, which means we're likely in for at least a short-term correction.
51  Economy / Speculation / Re: [Bearish] The Dangerous Reason Why Bitcoin Just Hit Yet Another New High on: November 03, 2017, 11:03:30 PM
I love how people are getting worried about how Wall Street could tarnish Bitcoin's reputation. And rightfully so, unfortunately. Oh how times have changed.
Yeah, I know what you mean.  I've been thinking about this for some time now, and I think this is the first I've run across it in a thread here.  For the longest time, everyone has of course been wanting price to continue to go up, and many are looking forward to the big financial institutions getting involved, as that will like contribute to a further price increase.  However, with all of their money will come all of their power and influence.  Everyone complains about how they manipulate all of the other financial markets of the world.  Cryptos will be their next target.
52  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin hits $7k!!! on: November 03, 2017, 05:40:55 AM
I’m not sure if 10000$ is possible this year, it is clearly reachable next year(2018). Then this Segwit2x fork also known as Bitcoin2x as I read about Coinbase announcements. I think the miners are supporting it, many exchanges are also but the community as whole is silent about it. I’m doubtful if I can totally support it but let see there still few weeks to go. I’m still positive about after fork increases.
I'm really annoyed by the way the segwit2x group has gone about this whole thing.  I'm tired of the high transaction fees, and I'm tired of how long it sometimes takes to get the first confirmation, so I think it would be nice to have a bigger block size.  But the way they're going about this, the divisions it's causing within the community, and the fact that they don't seem to care are just not acceptable.  They should be trying to work with the bitcoin core team and the rest of the community, rather than trying to circumvent it.
53  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin hits $7k!!! on: November 03, 2017, 01:20:37 AM
As to my last view few minutes ago in coinmarketcap,  bitcoin breaks through $7000 and to the look of things, the price might exceed or meet $10,000 after the segwit2x coming. What do you guys think will happen after the segwit, with the view of the past two forks that has taken place?
Share your views guys.
Especially with how fast price has been increasing in the last day or two, we will probably see at least some kind of significant correction.  But here's something to ponder: could the correction occur before the fork, rather than after, as many seem to believe.  Keep in mind that traders/investors are usually trying to guess the next move.  If everyone believes that the price is going to shoot up before the fork and drop after, what's the logical thing to do?  Invest now to take advantage of the rise and then get out before the crash, possibly even before the fork.  I have no idea if things will happen this way, but it's another perspective (disclaimer: I'm holding most of my bitcoin, at least for now).
54  Economy / Speculation / Re: Peak and correction coming on: November 03, 2017, 01:07:18 AM
The price is going up too far too fast so a correction will likely eventually happen. The price may get to $8000 before a correction, but I would not be surprised if the drop is significant. I mean we could see a drop of over $2000 to the $5000’s. There will be occasionally some large crashes as the price goes too high. I think there will be some panic when it happens. But sometimes it’s okay for the weak investors to get pruned out so the price can grow at a reasonable pace.
I agree.  The market looks like it may be getting overheated in the short term.  We need a correction or some good consolidation in order to continue upward.  If we don't get that soon--if we blow through $7500 and then $8k in the next day or two, we will be risking a much greater correction.
55  Economy / Speculation / Re: I do not have the guts to buy bitcoins now. on: November 03, 2017, 01:04:11 AM
I do not even have the courage to buy Bitcoin. Although I believe Bitcoin a lot. Many of my friends have made a lot of money by investing in Bitcoin. So I am thinking that I will buy Bitcoin in the future. As Bitcoin too Rising to 5000+ USD   Grin

WHAT DO YOU THINK ?  Roll Eyes

Well if your instinct say no then so be it, you dont need to do the same way like your friends if you dont have the guts to risk your money. However if you let this opportunity to pass you might missed the time to earn. The current value is expensive but continue increasing, no one can tell how far it will go and for me its beneficial to ride on and go with the flow.
This is good advice.  You might be able to make a lot of money by investing now, but if you know that you're going to be worried about your position, then either you should stay away from bitcoin altogether (if you're nervous, then you almost certainly will end up panic selling at some point), or you should wait for the next crash to happen and then invest incrementally.
56  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do you check Bitcoin price everyday? on: November 03, 2017, 12:58:59 AM
yes i check Bitcoin price everyday And much  Cry But For profit long term This should be avoided

me For example, I missed the train of bitcoin because i check Bitcoin price much

Yeah, you have to be really careful.  If you are constantly looking at the price (I'll admit that I'm guilty of that, too), you risk making rash decisions based on emotions rather that logic.  Also be careful about what charts you look at.  If you're in it for the long term, don't look at a 5-minute chart.  Look at the daily or weekly.  Otherwise, the noise will drive you crazy.
57  Economy / Speculation / Re: Segwit2X - prove to me it's going to happen. on: November 03, 2017, 12:53:44 AM
Segwit2x is going to happen. There is no problem on that. Big blockers have their BCH but another big part of Free miners are already locked in to segwit2x.
Don't worry everything is going to be good
Yes, I think it will definitely happen.  Way too much effort has gone into it for it not to happen.  But I'm uncertain that everything is going to be so good, especially with a lot of the bitcoin core developers calling for the failure of the segwit2x chain.  By a few months after, yes, things will probably stabilize, but there could be a lot of chaos and turbulence before we reach that point.
58  Economy / Speculation / Re: Segwit2x in November on: November 02, 2017, 11:26:33 PM
It's completely unbelievable that nobody speaks about the fork...
-    It's almost tomorrow ! The segwit 2X fork is currently planned to happen on November 16th
-  We have very few information about what will happen with this fork ?

   The current and most probable scenario is :
    => The 2X blockchain will stay an alternative chain
    => The original chain will remains the main chain
    => Massive decrease of main chain hashrate due to the NYAgreement.
   
The massive decrease of hashrate will have a huge impact on the network. Even if it will be "repaired" after difficulty reduction, it cannot be unseen.

My questions :
 - Will this uncertainty about future will be stronger than the hope of getting free money with the fork ? (if yes, price drop)
 - Will whales will use this situation to FUD a lot and manipulate the price ? (for me, the answer is "yes of course").
The miners will go where the money is.  Even if many initially switch to the segwit2x chain, if the price of B2X doesn't catch up with BTC, they will go back to BTC, especially if there's a downward adjustment in difficulty from people mining B2X for a while.  Right now, though, I really have no good feeling for which way things are going to go.
59  Economy / Speculation / Re: 72 Hour from 6,300 to 7,048 on: November 02, 2017, 10:15:56 PM
Truly meteoric rise but let’s try & stay calm. A period of stability in the market would now be good. 
We are probably stable now with $6,000 but I don't want to be confident with that as the word "volatility" isn't giving me a chill.

If $7,000 will remain for a week or two, it'll be giving me a lot of relaxation but still I want some more price for the upcoming Christmas.

I agree that we really need a good period of consolidation or we risk greater market instability.  I'm also a little concerned about the spike that broke $7k.  The pace at which it did that, and the mini-crash that followed, make that move feel like a blow-off event.  That could mean at least a short-term pullback or worse.
60  Economy / Speculation / Re: Next 5 year for Bitcoin on: November 02, 2017, 10:08:47 PM
after release bitcoin 9 years running. but bitcoin increasing or increasing.so anyone have good opinion for next five year about bitcoin? feel freee and drop your opinion.
thanks

In the way bitcoin is presently going, and it keeps going like that it will hit over $50k-$70k. Bitcoin will have lots of people invest into it before that time, which will be a big impact to the price increases.

Which year did you mean for those price range?

If you say around 2030 and over, it's very normal, but if you mean around 2019-2020, we may not be able to see those high prices. We need a different story to achive it.
I like this way of thinking, and I think you're absolutely right.  Bitcoin's current story is only going to take us so far (I have no idea how far, but certainly it's limited).  In order to climb into the 5-digit price range and keep increasing, something fundamental is going to have to change.  Amazon adoption would be a good start.
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