Actually XBC is doing much better than the current price would have you think. We have a solid team in place, processes established and have covered a lot of ground towards our next deliverables. Also, the XBC community, while not huge is large enough and dedicated enough to get stuff done and has generated an amazing amount of good ideas for us. Of course, now DCM gets to leverage most of that ... so it could work out really well.

I am convinced that if we simply keep up delivering good work, our day in the sun will come; it's just sort of impossible to predict *when* that will be.

Welcome, you'll find the XBC community a nice bunch. We have lots of things going on, check our our community forums under https://xbcplus.com/community and say Hi there as well.

Well, the crazy thing is that every day new coins are released and about 90% of them seem to have a shelf-life of 2-3 weeks with a single pump (followed by a dump) comprising the bulk of their activity after which they sort of fade out.

It is this reason why I'm convinced that a well-executed, long-term strategy can bring mad value to investors (as supposed to day traders). This is our goal with DCM and XBC and we'll work hard to make it happen.

It probably will. Be patient, you can't expect these things to happen overnight if you want the growth to be sustainable.

Thanks Qi, it's appreciated.

I just want to say that we're all very happy that the communities from both DCM and XBC have reacted in an extremely positive manner to our announcement. It has managed to push DCM's price up to just around IPO level and also XBC seems to have gained a little. We are positive that this collaboration will help both coins move forward.

Like KreativeKrypto said, head over to the XBC community forums at https://xbcplus.com/community/ and introduce yourself. XBC has an active community with some really active and creative members.

I know everybody wants a higher coin price, but we're up almost 100% from the low (+- 0.0005) of a few days ago. Lets take this as a positive sign for the future work together on the both coin's success.

Yes, access to IPO funds is wishful thinking :-)

We may get some mintpal voting help soon though.

In light of the recent collaboration announcement with DCM, I would like to encourage everybody to vote for DCM on Poloniex.

Thank you for doing so, it will benefit both our coins in the long run.

Digital Commerce (DCM) and BitcoinPlus (XBC) are two young altcoins who have each faced a successful launch and ICD (Initial Coin Distribution), followed by a distinct set of hardships. It is a credit to both coins that they prevailed during bleak times and that their development teams and communities took the situation as a challenge to move their respective projects forward.

Digital Commerce has prevailed over the irresponsible behavior of one of it's former developers but the resulting negative attention has overshadowed the successful completion of it's ICD (Initial Coin Distribution) and the positive spirit which prevailed after this successful launch. The result was that many initial investors sold their coins which resulted in a sharp drop of the coin price, pushing it well below the ICD level.

BitcoinPlus was left in dire straits when the original developer abandoned the project without a fully working wallet and took the bulk of the ICD funds with him. From the excited community which had already gathered around the coin, a new team was formed and managed to produce a new PoS wallet and website while organizing the community into action on many fronts so that the coin's standing could be improved while not having access to any ICD funds.

Both coins have mastered their respective crises and are determined to move forward but now face a more difficult market position than was initially anticipated. While these coins are on many levels very similar, the difference in the number of coins available for each coin suggest that they will be aimed at and used in different market segments. It is the similar but complementary nature of these coins which suggests that they can coexist next to each other without competing against one another.

It is against this background that the development teams of both coins have decided to join forces on their vendor adoption program as a method of leveraging each others strength. After careful deliberation, both teams came to the conclusion that such a collaboration will create a win-win situation for both coins.

Specifically, both coins vendor recruitment programs will continue to exist as separate entities but vendors will be encouraged to accept both coins rather than just one. In addition to this, both coins will make use of the vendor portal which is to be developed, helping each other to attract consumers and to provide a broad range of products for sale.

The respective support communities will remain separate in an effort to allow them to develop and maintain their separate identities.

Under this agreement, Digital Commerce gains the following benefits:

• Access to preliminary source code for the vendor portal which has been developed by the XBC team so far
• Access to the payment gateway integration which has been negotiated by the DCM team
• Access to XBC's strong community for use in the vendor recruitment programs

while BitcoinPlus gains the following benefits:

• Access to the final vendor portal which will be developed under direction of the DCM team
• Access to the payment gateway integration which has been negotiated by the DCM team
• Access to a seasoned marketing and public relations officer

Both teams strongly believe that this agreement allows each coin to build on it's respective strengths while leveraging the strengths and advantages of the other coin and it's team. We feel that such an approach to the market will be more successful than keeping the respective vendor recruitment programs projects separated.

“We build too many walls and not enough bridges.”
― Isaac Newton

- The Digital Commerce and BitcoinPlus teams

Here's what's going on:

• We're getting some marketing materials drafted/designed
• We're getting the marketplace UI designed
• We're in talks to people to hire for the marketplace development
• We're evaluating software for a community site/forum
• We're talking every day among each other, refining strategy and details

There's probably more that I'm forgetting right now, but that's a quick list.

Expect an update on the site design hopefully tomorrow.

Yes, we have entered your issues into a spreadsheet for issues. We will be upgrading to real bug tracker any day now and will take your issues along. Sorry that you didn't get any feedback, it's been a few busy days.

The only thief here is you. But since you said that you will be travelling the world to tell people about DCM (emphasis on future tense) let me tell you very clearly: You are no longer on the team, you have no mandate to represent DCM and I hereby ask you officially to return your IPO funds to a project member of your choice.

Let me reiterate the IPO addresses:

KreativeKrypto: 1C5c3TrVD5AMcBK5ayqQ11BNtPfB5u2SK4 (already posted yesterday)
Wallenstein: 14Hu2iKL6Q3aWZzeTvvJLSYy5hcNRobN2v
AHumanBeingX: 19hd97CPw6g3wTgPud2X6b4RzbbTTB6YJc
Aszu: 14auAPVYoCjDe3ptVGwmyzQNXdHu4vwCJL
SeriousCoins: can't get to him right now, will provide later today

Serious has assured me though that he has not misappropriated any funds and I've know him long enough to trust his word.

Let me address 1 comment of yours in particular:


I'm assuming you're referring to my address (14Hu2iKL6Q3aWZzeTvvJLSYy5hcNRobN2v) whose blockchain info also confused me.

Frist what you see is that I received 2 payments of 22.2698 BTC. This was of course in error and one of those payments was sent on to AHumanBeingX as his part of the IPO share. You then see a withdrawal of 2 BTC and another apparent withdrawal of 20.2698 BTC. However, the only real withdrawal shown on that page is 2 BTC.

I was confused myself of the way the blockchain displays this info as well, but I talked to our wallet/blockchain expert (whom I consider Dr. Wallet and Prof. Blockchain) and he assured me that this was quite normal. The remaining sum, after subtracting 2BTC from the original amount, is returned to the wallet. An outsider looking at the blockchain can not tell whether this amount was returned or sent somewhere else. He knows 100x more about this stuff than I do so I'll take his word on this. The only thing I can assure you is that this page only displays a withdrawal of 2BTC.

I hope this settles the issue. I'm getting sort of tired of having to explain myself here every 2 days. If we wanted to scam you we would have taken the funds, ran away and you would have never heard from us again.

No, the Bittrex Wallet does not mint.

Yes Bob. Top3 richlist. And yes, I wanted to to buy your 45K coins off you, at a discount, to which you responded that you wanted 10BTC for them when the market value at that point was 2.5BTC. So I passed your delusional offer and bought them on the open market. At this point you sound like a sorry bagholder; did you spend the IPO money buying high because you were stupid enough fall for the fake mintpal scammer? Sure sounds like it. So much for being a great trader.

I had invested considerably in the IPO and sold about 2/3 at 0.3, doubling my initial investment. The rest I held. Then when the price went to 1/2 IPO, I bought more. And I've been buying more here and there as our plans have taken shape and I've become ever more convinced that if we manage to pull them off it'll be absolutely huge. It's all very simple. You claim to be a great trader, I'm not totally devoid of brains either. At least grant me that.

Also, if any of our investors question my investment into DCM after Bob's comments, that is very simple to resolve. I am willing to share a screenshot of my holdings with one of our trusted supporters so that while they do not divulge the exact amount of my holdings, they can confirm that my holdings place me on the top3 of the richlist.

Investors, speak up. If you want this done, it will be done.

Well, I don't know but bittrex was down earlier today, might have something to do with that.

EDIT: looking into it

OK, I think Kreative may have been inaccurate in what he said. The vendor portal should be here in less than 3 months.

We have longer term plans which will have a huge impact, but we for those we need the vendor portal first. Those longer term plans are probably on the order or 6 months away.

Also, nobody said that we won't release updates; we're here every day communicating and answering questions. It's been like a week since launch and although we'd like to be, we're not miracle workers. So please bear with us while we dig through the mountain of work we have ahead of us.

Yes, it's an unfortunate situation but it is what it is and we'll make the best of it.


Trust me, that one was a learning experience for all of us.


I'm just not going to comment on what Bob said. We each took 2BTC for ourselves which I think is a fair amount. The remaining money will be spent on activities directly related to advancing the coin.


At this point we're throwing around lots of ideas and a discount for DCM is definitely something we are discussing (among lots of other things). I have my own opinion on Bob's vendor list and as far as I know, no specifics were ever mentioned by him. You draw your own conclusion on that; I know I've drawn mine.

We are getting ready to draft support materials which will outline to vendors what their potential benefits are for accepting DCM and will release those when they're ready.


First of all, I don't think anybody ever mentioned 6 months. That is beyond our planning horizon right now.

Further, you can question the timetable all you want, but the reality of the situation is that we have a lot of work to do. I've done Software for 20+ years and eCommerce for 10+ years and understand the effort and pitfalls involved. Yes, we could announce a timeline of 4 weeks, but the chance of ending up looking stupid for doing so are too big. Please understand this: We're trying to give you *realistic* times, not pie-in-the-sky times. Our goal is to beat those estimates and be able to pleasantly surprise people, but I we're playing it safe for now.

Yes, crypto is fickle, but we'll get there and in the end, it will pay off; I'm quite certain of that.

Also, I'd like to reiterate something I posted earlier today: we are all heavily invested into DCM. It is in our own interest to make this work.

I just want to reiterate that the coin will DEFINITELY not go to zero, for the simple reason that there are price levels at which we will step in and use a part of the IPO funds to stabilize the price. We accept that investing carries with it risk and while we can't completely shield our investors from such risk, we will not let them suffer catastrophic losses.

I've just replied to your previous post. I view my coin holdings as a private matter. But I'll give you my word on it that what I've told you is true. If hope that is good enough for you. If it isn't then you also have to doubt everything we've been telling you about our plans (which are also true).

BTW, I think your question is entirely legitimate and hope I've at least answered it to your satisfaction.