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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BCC] Bitconnect Coin - Decentralized Cryptocurrency on: July 16, 2017, 03:18:18 AM
There are still a lot of unfilled buy orders on coinexchange.io  Grin
Last chance to get at least something back for your money

I've never seen so many haters in my life! No proof, zero just yelling scam.  It's a scam! Why because you can't see how volatile BTC is ?  Imagine if you could trade the peaks and valleys, how much money you could make per day. A bot has no emotion and doesn't get caught up in news, politics.  You say there is no bot, I say the accusers have the burden of proof. There are legit forex companies trading the same way everyday. I know of one trading BTC the same the and have similar payouts structured differently. So all auto bot trading companies are a scam I guess. Everything a scam these days.. If you missed out on an ICO.. Yeah that's a scam..while you hate on the price hoping it came down to buy in.  I still remember everyone calling Ethereum a scam and they still do. Just like everyone who doesn't have a clue calls BTC a scam or you will lose all off your money when it disappears. I hope you can see the irony in all of this.
42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] POPULOUS - Invoice trading platform | ICO l BOUNTY CAMPAIGN on: July 16, 2017, 12:18:15 AM

Yeah this is amazing how cheap it is. Thanks.



This is exactly what mind set they want you to have. Fear... If they have been dumping to scare everyone, I think it failed. Because I want to buy more...  I think anyone who really understands the business model feel's the same way. 3-5 years of rolling the compounding pokens. You have yourself a cash flow that will allow you not to work. This is also somewhat PPT amount dependent.

Looks like all who sold aren't selling anymore.  I just went to etherdelta and supply is dry.  Price definitely rising.


The word going around is that someone hacked another exchange CryptoDAo? and stole all the PPT and were dumping it on EtherDelta as fast was they could. Thats the whale who was dumping .. lol  WTF crazy ?? That's why the price went down...  Must of had a Robin Hood mentality or liquidate as fast as possible before they get caught.  Info came from a few people chatting on Etherdelta.



Berx2000 @Berx2000 00:57
@The_Mag_z_twitter - all PPT from cryptoDao exchange were stolen and are sold here


yes it seems like they were dumping it all here

Myelectricglow@gmail @Operatorstandin_twitter 01:08
@redarmanino not only that, bbut alot of people were victims to phishing emails, fake wallets, etc. All that hot PPT needs to be cashed out.

DodyDay @DodyDay 01:10
@Operatorstandin_twitter Nobody knew the scam artist whale until today.


@DodyDay how do we know who they are?

DodyDay @DodyDay 01:11
The complaints started popping up against CryptoDAO

Setas San @SetasSan_twitter 01:13
now the question is how much they have stole

DodyDay @DodyDay 01:13
@SetasSan_twitter Had to be at least 150,000 PPT...I think.

@DodyDay more likely 15. 000. 000

Berx2000 @Berx2000 01:16
there was 1 dump with 60 000 ppts
in one go

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@thedesignflaw/populous-tokens-ppt-go-missing-from-cryptdao-exchange

* Below is basic article missing the Tweets screen shots that give more info.. Link above

Populous Tokens (PPT) Go Missing From CryptDAO Exchange
yesterday
thedesignflaw25 in cryptocurrency
Dubbed "the next Veriteseum",  Populous (PPT) is an Ethereum-based smart contract invoice and trade finance platform token that has had so many trying to get their hands on it, it never made it out of the pre-ICO phase. In fact the original scheduled ICO date is still days away from this writing. But surprisingly, on July 10, cryptocurrency exchange CryptDAO tweeted that by the next day PPT would be de-listed. An odd move, to put it mildly, that has some scratching their heads and others wondering where their PPT tokens are.

Not surprisingly, however, the first tweeted question was a simple, "Why?"

The answer: "4 PPT made confused".

As you might imagine the responses after that showed some legitimate concern.

As days passed, Twitter followers hammered this post, desperately prodding for information as to the whereabouts of their missing tokens. Unfortunately they have, as of July 14th, not received a response from CryptDAO. The twitter post is littered with calls of "scam."

One fed up victim, Eric Kittell, has even gone so far as to tweet out a link to report the exchange for fraud.


Unfortunately, without any further explanations, tweets, or the refund of BTC/PPT, there is plenty of oxygen in the room for damning theories to bloom. After all, it is rather interesting that such a sought after crypto would be the one that gets de-listed and disappears from user wallets. To add more fuel to that theory, major blocks of PPT were dumped for a low price on EtherDelta recently.

Just another lesson that cryptocurrencies are still very much in the Wild West phase... Keep your head on a swivel and only buy what you can afford to lose.



Article sources:
https://twitter.com/cryptodao/status/884461599897112581
https://twitter.com/ekitel
http://populous.co/populous_the_blockchain_invoice_finance_platform_announces_crowdsale.html
43  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] POPULOUS - Invoice trading platform | ICO l BOUNTY CAMPAIGN on: July 15, 2017, 06:29:05 PM
If Populous' business plan is all just talk and fantasize, no amount of begging and praying will make the price goes up.

The Populous team need to go out there and meet the SMEs to use Populous for invoice financing and make sure everything is updated.

It appears to me business newbies are almost always attached to the price instead of running their business.

And that's, unfortunately, is a sign of future failure.

The potential of Populous is huge, but if in the end everyone is just committing himself into wishful thinking and daydreaming, then no amount of potential will ever materialize.

And this should be clear to those with common sense.


I believe they are just addressing the FUD going around/ investors concerns, worried about why such large amounts were be sold. Letting people know there is nothing wrong with the business side of things on their end.. They probably could have said it better..
44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] POPULOUS - Invoice trading platform | ICO l BOUNTY CAMPAIGN on: July 15, 2017, 06:09:30 PM
I am a big supporter of this populous project but i really wonder where is the CEO and is there any video from him ?

Be aware that people who may have links to/ or have some interest in HIVE are posting FUD about Populous. I saw a Video from a popular crypto vlogger, put out on youtube last night, was saying, he's found Fudders, he's dealt with, possible links to or interest in Hive.   If you don't know who Hive is they are going to have an ICO soon and the reports are they copied Populous's white paper etc. Beware !!! Possibly scam ICO coming.. DO your research, and watch out for HIVE fudders.
45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]Pillar - The Personal Data Locker - 60hr Token sale begins July 15 on: July 15, 2017, 05:23:44 PM
Website doesn't work for me :/

for me too

Congrats to all who got in on the Pre-Ico, can the pre-ico be on EtherDelta today ? or does anyone know what exchange and when they will be on?  Thanks
46  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] POPULOUS - Invoice trading platform | ICO l BOUNTY CAMPAIGN on: July 15, 2017, 05:15:46 PM
Anyone wondering about Silver the Antidote PPT video's disappearing, I think I know why: He's going private

Twitter:
Silver The Antidote‏ @Silver_Antidote  2h2 hours ago
More
 I strongly suggest anyone who has made investments to join the group. The cost will be small in the long run & your find out within mins



Silver The Antidote‏ @Silver_Antidote  8h8 hours ago
More
 I have been working on setting up a new platform. This will be a $50 premium service p/m details at https://www.patreon.com/silver_the_antidote
read the terms!
47  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: VERITASEUM DISCUSSION THREAD on: July 15, 2017, 04:09:22 PM
just found this

http:/

looks like its the same owner of http://

interesting
Beware sketchy as hell links!!!!
I have no idea where those links go, they could be phishing sites or a hacker trying to grab your IP address and find an open port on your computer. Beware!!!!



Edit: check..

PSA:  Also saw that a fake Phishing email going around  supposedly  from MEW= MyEtherWallet saying to upgrade to 2FA going around. It's a scam to get your priv keys.
48  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] POPULOUS - Invoice trading platform | ICO l BOUNTY CAMPAIGN on: July 15, 2017, 05:39:56 AM

Yeah this is amazing how cheap it is. Thanks.



This is exactly what mind set they want you to have. Fear... If they have been dumping to scare everyone, I think it failed. Because I want to buy more...  I think anyone who really understands the business model feel's the same way. 3-5 years of rolling the compounding pokens. You have yourself a cash flow that will allow you not to work. This is also somewhat PPT amount dependent.

Looks like all who sold aren't selling anymore.  I just went to etherdelta and supply is dry.  Price definitely rising.
The word going around is that someone hacked another exchange CryptoDAo? and stole all the PPT and were dumping it on EtherDelta as fast was they could. Thats the whale who was dumping .. lol  WTF crazy ?? That's why the price went down...  Must of had a Robin Hood mentality or liquidate as fast as possible before they get caught.  Info came from a few people chatting on Etherdelta.



Berx2000 @Berx2000 00:57
@The_Mag_z_twitter - all PPT from cryptoDao exchange were stolen and are sold here


yes it seems like they were dumping it all here

Myelectricglow@gmail @Operatorstandin_twitter 01:08
@redarmanino not only that, bbut alot of people were victims to phishing emails, fake wallets, etc. All that hot PPT needs to be cashed out.

DodyDay @DodyDay 01:10
@Operatorstandin_twitter Nobody knew the scam artist whale until today.


@DodyDay how do we know who they are?

DodyDay @DodyDay 01:11
The complaints started popping up against CryptoDAO

Setas San @SetasSan_twitter 01:13
now the question is how much they have stole

DodyDay @DodyDay 01:13
@SetasSan_twitter Had to be at least 150,000 PPT...I think.

@DodyDay more likely 15. 000. 000

Berx2000 @Berx2000 01:16
there was 1 dump with 60 000 ppts
in one go

If that is true that is crazy.  I now see so much supply back on etherdelta.
Flippers possibly ? I saw the whale manually dumping to the bottom of the book 200, 300 Eth worth at a time at 0.003 on some. Someone needs to pull the trade log.. Hmm now that I think about it maybe he was selling some to himself cleaning them up. Maybe thats another reason why he would come in after 30 mins at a time. He needed time to move the Eth around and setup the buys.? Complete speculation.
49  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] POPULOUS - Invoice trading platform | ICO l BOUNTY CAMPAIGN on: July 15, 2017, 05:16:40 AM

Yeah this is amazing how cheap it is. Thanks.



This is exactly what mind set they want you to have. Fear... If they have been dumping to scare everyone, I think it failed. Because I want to buy more...  I think anyone who really understands the business model feel's the same way. 3-5 years of rolling the compounding pokens. You have yourself a cash flow that will allow you not to work. This is also somewhat PPT amount dependent.

Looks like all who sold aren't selling anymore.  I just went to etherdelta and supply is dry.  Price definitely rising.


The word going around is that someone hacked another exchange CryptoDAo? and stole all the PPT and were dumping it on EtherDelta as fast was they could. Thats the whale who was dumping .. lol  WTF crazy ?? That's why the price went down...  Must of had a Robin Hood mentality or liquidate as fast as possible before they get caught.  Info came from a few people chatting on Etherdelta.



Berx2000 @Berx2000 00:57
@The_Mag_z_twitter - all PPT from cryptoDao exchange were stolen and are sold here


yes it seems like they were dumping it all here

Myelectricglow@gmail @Operatorstandin_twitter 01:08
@redarmanino not only that, bbut alot of people were victims to phishing emails, fake wallets, etc. All that hot PPT needs to be cashed out.

DodyDay @DodyDay 01:10
@Operatorstandin_twitter Nobody knew the scam artist whale until today.


@DodyDay how do we know who they are?

DodyDay @DodyDay 01:11
The complaints started popping up against CryptoDAO

Setas San @SetasSan_twitter 01:13
now the question is how much they have stole

DodyDay @DodyDay 01:13
@SetasSan_twitter Had to be at least 150,000 PPT...I think.

@DodyDay more likely 15. 000. 000

Berx2000 @Berx2000 01:16
there was 1 dump with 60 000 ppts
in one go
50  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: VERITASEUM DISCUSSION THREAD on: July 15, 2017, 04:32:13 AM
By being an ERC20 coin VERI could go down with ETH. When ETH gets dumped, all the ERC20 tokens follow the same curve.


Yeah.... I think the rain in Spain stays mainly in the plains.

PSA.. HODL   Grin

   Your referring to TEZO's selling ETH?  
Double edge sword...

51  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] POPULOUS - Invoice trading platform | ICO l BOUNTY CAMPAIGN on: July 15, 2017, 04:24:43 AM

Yeah this is amazing how cheap it is. Thanks.



This is exactly what mind set they want you to have. Fear... If they have been dumping to scare everyone, I think it failed. Because I want to buy more...  I think anyone who really understands the business model feel's the same way. 3-5 years of rolling the compounding pokens. You have yourself a cash flow that will allow you not to work. This is also somewhat PPT amount dependent.
52  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: VERITASEUM DISCUSSION THREAD on: July 14, 2017, 10:28:17 PM
Whats happening to Veritaseum if stock market goes down completely caused by financial crisis? Positiv? negativ?
 


Positive!  Blockchain autonomous trading.  Where else would you go if the markets were closed, Veritaseum!
Our software platform will help you match with 98+ million others, in all industries looking for that special play. Can't find the workup valuation needed call one of our reps, we specialize in custom deals, and off markets. Don't have access to our Veri token. You can get access from one of approx 1800 rental broker's, by using our rental facility, and state of the art  smart-contracts.  Be your own Hedge Fund or REIT from home or yacht  Grin  Our customers are "VERI-happy"  I put together a 20 mil deal from my bidet in South Hampton and saved a ton in fee's and red tape, cut out the middle $MEN and the deal was fully collateralized on the spot.
53  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: VERITASEUM DISCUSSION THREAD on: July 14, 2017, 09:59:41 PM
Our patent apps predate the Goldman apps, and the Goldman apps cover less area.

In other words we could possibly win $ awards from Goldman Sacs? Isn't this what happen to Apple ? Something like that. Come to think of it all other companies might have to pay to play. That patent could be worth $$  Shocked


By the way if no-one had noticed the multi-prong attack from Fudsters trying to steal some cheap Veri.  HODL  Wink
54  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] POPULOUS - Invoice trading platform | ICO l BOUNTY CAMPAIGN on: July 14, 2017, 08:00:49 PM
https://twitter.com/BitPopulous/status/857645815367643137

Why CEO does not appear on this meetup?  Roll Eyes


It says the CEO and the Founder were there ? Maybe the Founder had it covered and the CEO flew to India to make a deal?I don't know?  I've heard they made a deal in China recently. Where did you see he wasn't there ?
55  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] POPULOUS - Invoice trading platform | ICO l BOUNTY CAMPAIGN on: July 14, 2017, 07:36:56 PM
LOL ! why sell PPT for 0.006 ? this makes to me no sense looking at the great future of PPT, there is only one explanation to me that there are one or several big player doing psychological warfare against the some 1000 PPT owner to generate some kind of selloff to get several millions token by throwing some 100.000 ones underprized into the market.
DO THEY KNOW MAY THAT PPT WILL COME TO A BIG EXCHANGE THIS WEEKEND !!! Huh??

I think the worst is over, expect PPT to go to 0,016-0,020 this evening  Roll Eyes
Once again thank you market, my bags are full now
Prepare for a Rocket reverval NOW 3 2 1 FIRE  Grin


only 3000 to sell at 0.010 before haven opens again  Lips sealed
21:00 we won ...  while I pissed them into the garden ...


This was a generous Whale I call him the " PPT Santa Whale". He/she obviously has millions of tokens and was spreading them around like gifts. He's been doing it for days.. IMO He was being generous, big difference than dumping. They were all snatched up quickly and the price jumps back up every time. He would hit the buy side order book way way below price @0.002,0.007, 0.003, 0.005,0.009  all over the place. He/she was just being generous and helping the PPT eco system. I was able to get in, and get some good deals because I missed the pre-ICO.
56  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] POPULOUS - Invoice trading platform | ICO l BOUNTY CAMPAIGN on: July 14, 2017, 03:49:37 PM
WARNING READ: IMO DON"T SELL until you understand!

Just watched a video on PPT, and got the gist of the PPT poken deal. PPT will be very expensive by year 3 because of the compounding effect. If holders allow their pokens to roll over, with out converting them into Fiat. Depending on the PPT price, say 3k PPT at $30 could have a poken value of 180k. That will force the $30 value up on those tokens. Most investors will for go cashing out the monthly income to achieve an compounding economy of scale. 3k PPT @ $30 =90k 50% income rolled over 3 years 180k.

That will force the $30 token price way up, for more than one reason.  Would you sell a token making you 90k a year for 1 to 1 value? Hell no maybe 4x the yearly net, most likely more than that because its almost 100% passive and almost guaranteed. Nobody sells a magic money machine.  If you own this token and don't understand what your have, ask someone to help you understand what I just said and watch the end of this video. IMO DON"T SELL until you understand!

https://youtu.be/A7dXr_gaD8U?t=33m46s

Watch the last 10 min @ 33 min of this video

Expensive in 3 years ? I dont know,but someone opened a thread in scam accusation about PPT


LOL this is what you get everytime some new player (PPT) is successful.  People said the same thing about ETH and still do. Haters are going to Hate.  Who would want to start a scam thread? Maybe someone who's trying to copy PPT success and try and stave off PPT's 1st mover advantage, someone with zero morals trying to steal ideas, a fake competitor like HIVE  maybe ?  Look into HIVE copying PPT white paper etc if you want to talk about possible scams. Seems to me if something was a scam, why would someone want to steal it's ideas/business model.
57  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] POPULOUS - Invoice trading platform | ICO l BOUNTY CAMPAIGN on: July 14, 2017, 06:47:04 AM
WARNING READ: IMO DON"T SELL until you understand!

Just watched a video on PPT, and got the gist of the PPT poken deal. PPT will be very expensive by year 3 because of the compounding effect. If holders allow their pokens to roll over, with out converting them into Fiat. Depending on the PPT price, say 3k PPT at $30 could have a poken value of 180k. That will force the $30 value up on those tokens. Most investors will for go cashing out the monthly income to achieve an compounding economy of scale. 3k PPT @ $30 =90k 50% income rolled over 3 years 180k.

That will force the $30 token price way up, for more than one reason.  Would you sell a token making you 90k a year for 1 to 1 value? Hell no maybe 4x the yearly net, most likely more than that because its almost 100% passive and almost guaranteed. Nobody sells a magic money machine.  If you own this token and don't understand what your have, ask someone to help you understand what I just said and watch the end of this video. IMO DON"T SELL until you understand!

https://youtu.be/A7dXr_gaD8U?t=33m46s

Watch the last 10 min @ 33 min of this video
58  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: VERITASEUM DISCUSSION THREAD on: July 14, 2017, 04:59:25 AM
Anyone wanting to get into PPT theres a whale who keeps dropping in on Etherdelta all nite, letting them go for 0.01400 to 0.01350 at 10,000 PPT a time. They get ate up and he's gone for like 30 minutes or longer then pop's back in. 0.01400 = 2.80 each. I just loaded up my 2nd batch this week.

Clif High on PPT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsELYKj835Q

Cliff on PPT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7dXr_gaD8U
59  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: VERITASEUM DISCUSSION THREAD on: July 14, 2017, 01:04:11 AM

Lets say Ethereum blockchain contains a total (and current) supply of 10 ETH.

Somebody creates a smart contract that generates 100 tokens called 'trikToken' (TRK).

ETH trades at $1 per unit.
TRK trades at 30 cents per token.

ETH marketcap = $10
TRK marketcap = $30

TRK marketcap has exceeded ETH marketcap.


I didn't see this video on Veritaseum from Mike
He contacted Reggie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVNwzuctlSA&spfreload=10

Also one of my all time favorites starts at like 20m last for 3 min the section Talks about Veri and Rockefeller wealth. It's almost like he's implying VERI holders

https://youtu.be/qezrH2c5N3c?t=20m26s

There's another Clif video where he and Bix and Jsnip discuss Veri that's my other one
https://youtu.be/xtkRDshL2zY?t=31m47s



Guys also don't be fooled into selling on EtherDelta. What i've seen is someone who has some Veri wants to buy cheap. They start walking the bids down, selling back and forth to themselves, loading with small amounts.  So if you want to pick off a few cheap coins from them.  I've seen bots do this on PPT as well. They try and hide, but you will see a bunch of 1.0 sells each getting cheaper and cheaper. They hope you see a lower price and panic sell, and boom there goes your fortune.
60  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: VERITASEUM DISCUSSION THREAD on: July 13, 2017, 04:02:33 AM
I have this doubt when thinking about those speculative remark made by some people that Veri will compete with bitcoin on market cap.

Here's why I believe that remark is based on ignorance.

Veritas is based on the ethereum blockchain and it is not going to shift to anywhere else in the foreseeable future.
As it is based on ethereum blockchain, Veritas' market cap can never be larger than ethereum's market cap.
In fact, all those ERC20 tokens' market cap combined cannot exceed ethereum's market cap. Why?
A fish (or fishes) cannot grow bigger than the aquarium it is living in. If Veritas' market cap is, say $40 bil, and ethereum's market cap is $38 bil, there won't be enough eth supply to exchange for it, and that supply is short by $2 bil.
Veritas' market cap can exceed ethereum's market cap (let alone compete directly with bitcoin's market cap) only if Veritas is traded off/away from ethereum's network.


I don't know about that? I have to think about this a little more, but on the face of it the two are separate after birth. Veri does utilize Eth's network to transact using gas, but beyond that they are not bound as a trading pair. Meaning you could literally dump all of BTC into VERI and exit out of it without ever using ETH via a third party exchange. I guess what I'm trying to say is ETH's market cap has nothing to do with VERI's and vice versa.  

edit: I missed the end of your statement the first time,  I see you addressed it in the end.  
"only if Veritas is traded off/away from ethereum's network"   I would think this is the way it was intended post any ICO, for these tokens to be sovereign/stand alone representations and traded as such.

This also brings up another point about how should large ICO's exit out of ETH. Seems like someone should create a smart contract that all ICO's should use, that acts as a fair and large balancing act. To allow ICO's to sell off orderly without disrupting the entire market and maximizing their return at the same time. Kind of like traffic rules and stop lights are to autos.
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