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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: artforz and coblee gpu mining litecoin since the start? on: February 29, 2012, 04:30:49 PM
There is no GPU LTC Miner


A lot of the CH Sock Puppies claim to have seen it, vouch for it but not one can provide a screen shot, video or link. Twenty plus people have downloaded and no one can post it?

As far as Coinhunter, his credibility speaks for itself  Tongue

As bad as Coinhunter despises Coblee and Litecoin, if he had a GPU miner that would essentially destroy Litecoin he would release it ASAP. Solidcoin is that desperate to gain status.

Bottom Line: This is a Solidcoin fabricated lie.

LOL, quoted for posterity. Old BitcoinExpress with his never knowing what is going on and the telling of porkies.... ah Smiley




Coblee said it's GPU hostilie, well it is but not that much ... he said aswell he believes mrlt could have it as he talked to him.
Why do you say he was lying?
42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: artforz and coblee gpu mining litecoin since the start? on: February 29, 2012, 04:14:10 PM
Has anyone been able to confirm the claim? My rigs are in a different continent and I can't install Windows on them right now.
Some people used it already, it gives 360 kh/s on 6970 stock settings.
well the comunication part isn't well coded it gets a lot of stales aswell but it works.

There is no GPU LTC Miner


A lot of the CH Sock Puppies claim to have seen it, vouch for it but not one can provide a screen shot, video or link. Twenty plus people have downloaded and no one can post it?

As far as Coinhunter, his credibility speaks for itself  Tongue

As bad as Coinhunter despises Coblee and Litecoin, if he had a GPU miner that would essentially destroy Litecoin he would release it ASAP. Solidcoin is that desperate to gain status.

Bottom Line: This is a Solidcoin fabricated lie.
Well i don't like Solidcoin's politic and i'm sure not "pupie" or supporter of it, we just tested thing from this link :

Goes to show where the best developers are... working at SolidCoin.

http://solidcoin.info/reaper.html

"GPU resistant" . Nice work artforz and coblee, fooled your few fans for some months. Reaper gets 200KH/s on a 5830 . artfoz and coblee went around telling people gpu mining was impossible because they only got 9KH/s on a 6870.... believable with hindsight?
43  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: artforz and coblee gpu mining litecoin since the start? on: February 29, 2012, 03:31:33 PM
Has anyone been able to confirm the claim? My rigs are in a different continent and I can't install Windows on them right now.
Some people used it already, it gives 360 kh/s on 6970 stock settings.
well the comunication part isn't well coded it gets a lot of stales aswell but it works.
44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [LTC] An (even more) optimized version of cpuminer - UPDATED FEB 28 on: February 28, 2012, 07:08:52 PM
Just about to test it on my fx8150, (gota compile for win64 first)
Any use for the instruction sets that the fx8150 has?

(MMX, SSE 1 2 3 3S 4.1 4.2 4A, amd-v, aes, avx, xop ?

try my branch out til pooler implement it with assembler
compile with avx, please report results aswell

https://github.com/shakt1/cpuminer

you need gcc >=4.6 for best results
CFLAGS="-O3 -mavx <and try other on your wish>" ./configure
45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [LTC] An (even more) optimized version of cpuminer - UPDATED FEB 12 on: February 27, 2012, 11:20:05 PM
How do I modify the .BAT files to allow me to mine solo?

I know it's port 9332, but what should I put for the url, username, and userpass?

You should use the values of "rpcuser" and "rpcpassword" from your litecoin.conf file.
For the URL you should use the IP of the machine that is running litecoind; if you're using just one machine, the default value (http://127.0.0.1:9332/) should do.

Where's the litecoin.conf file?  Do I have to create this?  I've been pool-mining just fine.

You need to have the Litecoin client running if you want to mine solo.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47417.0
(coblee's post contains all the info about the litecoin.conf file.)

No luck so far...

I created the litecoin.conf file and I changed only the rpcuser and rpcpassword values.  Then, I edited one of my .BAT files and tried both my own IP address and http://127.0.0.1:9332/ as the URL, and I switched the user and password values to match the ones in the .conf file.

I tried to open the BAT file to run the miner (with Litecoin-QT open) and it says "HTTP request failed: couldn't connect to host" and "json_rpc_call failed, retry after 30 seconds."

I'm not sure what I'm missing here.  Any ideas?

Edit:  Well, I think I fixed it.  I'm actually not 100% sure how I fixed it.  I think what happened is I was editing some of the files (the .bat, the .conf) but I didn't restart Litecoin-QT after making changes to these files.  When I restarted Litecoin-QT, it allowed me to connect to the host.  Sweet Smiley  Let's see if I can repeat the process on my other computer with similar results.

Important Your config should have :
rpcpassword=<YOUR VERY SECRET PASSWORD>
rpcuser=<user>
rpcport=9332
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1 (if you connect only from localhost)

than use :
minerd --url http://127.0.0.1:9332 --userpass <user>:<YOUR VERY SECRET PASSWORD>

config should have :


Question:  Is the password really that important when mining from the local client?
YES !! with this password and rpcallowip=* anyone can make transactions with your wallet. can steal your coins.
46  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [LTC] An (even more) optimized version of cpuminer - UPDATED FEB 12 on: February 27, 2012, 10:56:07 PM
How do I modify the .BAT files to allow me to mine solo?

I know it's port 9332, but what should I put for the url, username, and userpass?

You should use the values of "rpcuser" and "rpcpassword" from your litecoin.conf file.
For the URL you should use the IP of the machine that is running litecoind; if you're using just one machine, the default value (http://127.0.0.1:9332/) should do.

Where's the litecoin.conf file?  Do I have to create this?  I've been pool-mining just fine.

You need to have the Litecoin client running if you want to mine solo.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47417.0
(coblee's post contains all the info about the litecoin.conf file.)

No luck so far...

I created the litecoin.conf file and I changed only the rpcuser and rpcpassword values.  Then, I edited one of my .BAT files and tried both my own IP address and http://127.0.0.1:9332/ as the URL, and I switched the user and password values to match the ones in the .conf file.

I tried to open the BAT file to run the miner (with Litecoin-QT open) and it says "HTTP request failed: couldn't connect to host" and "json_rpc_call failed, retry after 30 seconds."

I'm not sure what I'm missing here.  Any ideas?

Edit:  Well, I think I fixed it.  I'm actually not 100% sure how I fixed it.  I think what happened is I was editing some of the files (the .bat, the .conf) but I didn't restart Litecoin-QT after making changes to these files.  When I restarted Litecoin-QT, it allowed me to connect to the host.  Sweet Smiley  Let's see if I can repeat the process on my other computer with similar results.

Important Your config should have :
rpcpassword=<YOUR VERY SECRET PASSWORD>
rpcuser=<user>
rpcport=9332
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1 (if you connect only from localhost)

than use :
minerd --url http://127.0.0.1:9332 --userpass <user>:<YOUR VERY SECRET PASSWORD>

config should have :
47  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SC stopped at 179999 on: February 27, 2012, 10:20:14 AM
Yeah like Private Banks can run their own "nodes" and print money out of thin air. Yeah man... your whole scam is centralized. You're doing the very thing bitcoin was created to undo.
How can you not see that?


Actually we are against that in principle, but it's hard to stop a bank at the moment if they truly wanted to buy many SolidCoins. I'm sure if they offered $10/coin a lot of people would "cash out". That cost is still significantly higher than a Bitcoin attack. That said being a trusted node doesn't really give that many "Special powers" it just protects the network by limiting the number of blocks non trust nodes can create in a row, making it more fair and less "Suspicious" of miners holding back blocks. If a bank/government became a trust node RIGHT NOW they could cause some annoyances and slow the network a little, but they couldn't stop it.

There will be work done on trust nodes going forward to improve them. SolidCoin aims to protect its users from government, bank and large corporation attacks, so that is where work will be done to ensure that's the case as much as it can be. It's going to be hard. You can read some more about that on our myths page :-

http://solidcoin.info/myths.html#SolidCoin_will_be_shut_down_by_the_government
They don't ever bother to stop Solidcoin, it's just nothing and will be nothing. But if they wish to stop it ... they have just to Jail Coinhunter and turn of his "trusted nodes" Smiley)) It costs almost nothing Smiley
48  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Will Litecoin Prosper? on: February 25, 2012, 08:13:22 AM
There has yet to be a Bitcoin derivative that has come close to being half the price of a Bitcoin. I just one other peoples' opinions on the matter. I think it could help the crypto-economy if we had multiple currencies once the user base is large enough, but might also hinder it. If people choose one currency over the other this creates competition. Competition could go either way, raising or lowering the value of the coin. I just spent a few Bitcoins on a new CPU cooler to Litecoin mine with, and I've made about $0.80 mining with 30kh/s for a day or two. Maybe this is like Bitcoin, where the price skyrockets after it is publicized, making early adopters and on time sellers rich.

Opinions?

Do you mean 0.08$ ? Smiley or did you got ~150 litecoins for 1-2 days with 30kh/s ?
49  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [LTC] An (even more) optimized version of cpuminer - UPDATED JAN 26 on: February 24, 2012, 08:42:35 AM
(Just looked into this "LiteCoin" thing today) Followed the instructions on pool-x for my i7-2600k, got 8.8 khash total for 4 cores.

Just replaced the default files with your ones, now getting 10.5 khash, PER CORE, for a total of 42.0 khash

Wow   Shocked
How in the world are you getting 10.5 KH/s per core?
4 threads on i7 2600k can give 10.5 kh/s pro thread Smiley
50  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Does RealSolid manipulate the vote that could make him step down? on: February 20, 2012, 12:42:46 PM
And the 12 million spendable coins hovering over everyone's heads is whats holding Solidcoin back...

No matter how you slice it, there are 12 million coins that can be used at any time to scam the entire user base.

No that's just what an idiot thinks. Either you don't have the brainpower to understand how SolidCoin works or you are deliberately being obtuse to serve some other purpose. If you think 12 million coins that can't be spent is "holding it back" then you shouldn't use any cryptocurrency because it is software and it can be changed! You need to leave the "big time thinking" to the people that can understand it and just have faith. You seem to have faith in Bitcoin for whatever reason, good, stick with it, see how you go.
You are trying make us to belive that extra-coding to make coins unspadable is lower overhead to make just trust nodes without any coins ?
Ah ... i understand... the "bugs in code making this coins spendable are very nice for you" ... that's why ....
Well sure ... one day you are spending it after new "security update" or "new economic changes" update you'll claim  "Ah our nice comunity had a trust in XXX and this XXX missused our trust and dumped all 1.200.000 coins ... ah ah he is such bad person" ... but the real thing will be YOU will be spending this coins and YOU will be person XXX.
51  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Litecoin mining query on: February 19, 2012, 01:04:29 AM
Thanks for the inputs.
I would be mining for around 14-15 hours per day.
In that case, solo mining is not feasible, pooled mining would be better?
litecoinpool.org would be better if you mine not all the day along
52  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Thread about GPU-mining and Litecoin on: February 17, 2012, 05:22:03 PM
I agree with DeathAndTaxes on this one. It's not worth trying to limit hardware because it's improving all the time. By the end of this year Intel is expected to release their new Knights Corner 50-core CPU. That will be a good one for mining Litecoins, according to Artforz on btc-e. Are you going to try and stifle that one too?

Do you have any hopes of Litecoin ever becoming mainstream? It won't happen while 50% of the mining is done by botnets! That's why the Litecoin price is so low: nobody is going to put any serious money into a botnet currency.

A GPU miner is the best thing that could happen to LTC because botnets don't have GPUs. Let's leave Litecoin as it is and let's get mtrlt to release an open source version of his miner. I read that he spent only a few hours working on it so the Litecoin community should be able to buy it from him. I'm willing to donate 10 BTC towards this goal.

I think you should find out more about why Coblee created litecoin :-

https://github.com/coblee/litecoin/wiki/Comparison-between-Bitcoin-and-Litecoin

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For proof of work, Bitcoin uses the highly parallelizable SHA256 hash function, and therefore Bitcoin mining is a GPU-friendly task. Litecoin uses scrypt instead of SHA256 for proof of work. The scrypt hash function uses SHA256 as a subroutine, but it also depends on fast access to large amounts of memory rather than depending just on fast arithmetic operations, so it is hard to run many instances of scrypt in parallel by using the ALUs of a modern graphics card. This means that currently CPU mining is more efficient than GPU mining for Litecoin. In the future, GPUs or other dedicated hardware might prove useful for Litecoin mining, though the improvement over CPUs is likely to be less significant than it was for Bitcoin mining (e.g. 4x speedup instead of 400x speedup).

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If your computer already mines bitcoins, then the CPU on that computer is probably idle, so you can simultaneously mine litecoins without affecting the speed in which your GPU mines bitcoins.

Either litecoin is a CPU coin or the major reason for its existence just disappeared?

From the latest stats it appears GPU mining scrypt is 25-35x faster than CPU, is able to be stacked in the same PC and is 6-10x more efficient.

Check out SolidCoins mining page for info on how a correct implementation of CPU/GPU hard algorithm should figure in performance.
http://wiki.solidcoin.info/wiki/Mining_Hardware_Performance

I see nothing correct in your Hashing Algorithm, i've implemented 2.5 faster Version of miner for it (CPU) and due lack of time and profit for mining there is even 3x-8x better implementation of GPU miner for Solidcoin Smiley so it's nothing other Smiley
53  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Thread about GPU-mining and Litecoin on: February 17, 2012, 02:15:27 PM
One thing (somewhat theoretical) I would throw out there is that as GPUs become more "CPU like" they will devote the necessary resources (transistors and chip yield) to increased L1 cache.  GPU long since outstripped the growth in pixel counts so they devoted more resources to improved image quality at a fixed number of pixels and/or polygons.  The GPU resources are growing faster than developers ability to use them as devising more complex and realistic "effects" requires more human capital than simply doubling the polygon count or going from a 800x600 pixel count to 1920x1200 pixel count.  So it will be increases in GPGPU workload which increasingly drives development of future GPUs.   

GPU traditionally had very little local cache because there is no need when performing traditional graphics work.  That dynamic likely won't hold true in the future.  NVidia Tesla cards for example can be configured to double the amount of L1 cache because it is so useful in boosting performance of some GPGPU functionality.   Larger L1 caches will eventually trickle down into consumer grade products to.

No coin today is "anti-GPU" it is they can be described as "large L1 cache dependent".   Even if GPU mining is impossible w/ todays hardware the desire for GPGPU performance will drive higher cache in the SP for future GPU and eventually they will be able to perform with no limitation.

One "hard" alternative is to make the lookup tables so large they can only fit in main memory (say a 3.2GB lookup table).   That obviously makes the code less functional on those with limited system resources but given CPU access to memory is always lower latency that GPUs it becomes hard to defeat.  Eventually GPUs shared memory will be 4GB, 8GB, 16GB etc so possibly some algorithm which adjusts size of lookup table based on Moore's law might be needed (i.e. uses a 3.2GB lookup table at current block but that increases by 7% every 40,000 blocks as part of the protocol, maybe on a multiple of difficulty like every 8th difficulty adjustment is also a memory adjustment).
Sure with new hardware situation will be other. Quantum computers are possible aswell and will be "common" someday aswell and it will change everything we know about Cryptography Smiley
54  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: LTC miner optimizations for PowerPC (Power Mac) and Cell/BE (PlayStation 3) on: February 17, 2012, 01:51:06 PM
The first feedback and actually a patch for the Cell miner sent to me as a private message: https://github.com/shakt1/cpuminer Smiley
But one problem is that shakti is a newly registered user and has no permissions to post anything here yet.

edit: here is his thread in the Newbies section: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64222.msg753270#msg753270
If there are more people "on probation" (maybe newcomers from the playstation3 linux community), then it could be a good place for them to post some comments.

Finally i can post here Smiley Nice work ssvb to make miner for PS3, i hope we can tweak it together to make it even better Smiley
55  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Thread about GPU-mining and Litecoin on: February 17, 2012, 01:43:12 PM
Well, my theorethical researches give some unswers to Problematic.
Is Gpu-miner possible - YES, depends on implementation it can be made somehow better as CPU miner.
The performance of GPU miner is caped by Memory bandwith (you can't store all the data in Local/Shared memory of Device and have to use global Memory.
Global memory has havy latencies to access but managing an implementation where you will "hide" latencies by calculating in this time can work. You'll  still have cap in bandwidth ... the Fastest Bandwidth we have on common GPUs (as far as i know reading http://www.geforce.com/Hardware/GPUs/geforce-gtx-590/specifications used Nvidia GPU cause they have better bandwidth as AMD) is 327.7 GB/s. Sure it's best possible performance for just sequent read/write it's impossible to reach this in Scrypt calculation on GPU but we can calculate a Cap. One hash needs 128k writes and 128k reads to and from Global device memory. this means we can't calculate more hashes as

327.7 * 10^9 / 2 / 128 * 10^3 = 1.28 * 10^6 hashes.

this means the cap of performance is 1.28 MH/s.

The real implementation would be worser by factor 2 or 3 ...

Is this a problem ... well could be, but i don't think so.
56  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How did you guys get into bitcoin? on: February 17, 2012, 12:05:30 AM
Strange, but first Cryptocurrency i've heard about was solidcoin, it's scamcoin but if it wouldn't exist, i would still have no idea about Bitcoin Smiley
so this Scamcoin is good for anything *lol*
57  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Hello! on: February 17, 2012, 12:03:06 AM
Hey, Bunny!
58  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Newbies Hangout on: February 17, 2012, 12:01:51 AM
well, hello everyone
59  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / LTC (scrypt) Cell miner on: February 16, 2012, 11:34:13 PM
I've forked ssvb's cell-miner and with some small tweaks made it a bit faster.

Everyone who needs it can get it on https://github.com/shakt1/cpuminer

I've Used PS3 (Slim) firmware 3.55, OtherOS++ installed, debian ppc 64 bit.

miner makes around 45 kh/s running with 7 SPU-threads (kernel parameter for enabling 7. SPU is on) consuming ~70-75 Watt
well , have fun
60  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Introduce yourself :) on: February 15, 2012, 10:17:55 PM
Hello, I'm pretty new to Cryptocurrencies, but this Idea and realisation fascinating me.
My first acquaintance with Cryptocurriencies was as friend of my tald me about "mining Solidcoin" it was very interresting and talk a little time to understand Cryptocurriencies.  I'm Software-Develloper using to be very familar with Open Source software espetially with Linux.
I'm sorry about my English, it's not my native language.
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