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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ETH] Ethereum Observation Thread on: July 29, 2015, 01:00:01 AM
Guys, if you're looking for an indication of what Ether is worth in the market, the highest bid at Gatecoin is currently 0.0076 BTC.

I'm not saying that means anything for the future.

https://gatecoin.com/marketDepth
42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ETH] Ethereum Observation Thread on: July 28, 2015, 04:12:53 PM
This project is legit. Consider the quantity and quality of work put in (github, blog posts, conferences/meetups, transparency efforts...), along with strong external validation/support (Szabo, IBM...). Therefore I'd expect Ether to behave similarly to Storjcoin (SJCX), another serious project, rather than your average alt scam.

Frankly, using "pump and dump" and Ethereum in the same sentence is somewhat insulting IMO.  
43  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] GamerholicCoin (GHC) [SHA-256] - Fair launch! - I WIN FOR A LIVING on: September 29, 2014, 04:38:05 PM
At least you lot got a wallet !

Chrome wont let me download it, says it's "malicious and chrome has blocked it" lol

Believe it or not, that's normal. False positive. Go through the warnings and unpack it anyway.
44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]GameleagueCoin(GML)|PoS|List on Bittrex,BTER,Poloniex,Game version updated on: September 01, 2014, 09:02:35 AM
More languages will be added in the next version , also received many PM that requested to add other alt coins in GML Farm . We will consider about that .

Thanks!

DONT ADD ANOTHER COIN - It will kill the price of GML

if you want to play you have to play with GML . if you add doge or any thing else , every one will rather take doge then GML

please DO NOT ADD ANOTHER COIN
or give me some warning so i can dump mine

He might be right, look at how QTL is handling their trader.
I was a fan of the dogcoins, hoping GML team strongly supports dogcoins, there must be a strong application support it, thank GML team add dogcoins
Select DogeCoin is correct, to allow more people to participate

me too add dogecoin

Adding another coin takes focus away from GML - what is the incentive for people to hold GML then?
45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]GameleagueCoin(GML)|PoS|List on Bittrex,BTER,Poloniex,Game version updated on: September 01, 2014, 07:56:05 AM
More languages will be added in the next version , also received many PM that requested to add other alt coins in GML Farm . We will consider about that .

Thanks!

DONT ADD ANOTHER COIN - It will kill the price of GML

if you want to play you have to play with GML . if you add doge or any thing else , every one will rather take doge then GML

please DO NOT ADD ANOTHER COIN
or give me some warning so i can dump mine

He might be right, look at how QTL is handling their trader.
46  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MIN] Minerals - POS | Developing own anon solution | on: August 27, 2014, 10:35:10 AM
Welcome  back Smiley

I believe MINERALS should expand the betting to beyond Starcraft, but also to increase the Starcraft events and visibilty!

If people start betting MINERALS on everything, it would be pretty sweet.

Yes, but the problem is that Devs shifted resources to pay for anon developement and it is not doing well. As i told from the very beginning anon was clearly bad idea, but other guys decided against my opinion.

you are right..
focusing on ANON right now is not the best idea :/
MINERALS doesn't really have to be anon, we are not buying drugs with MINERALS, just having fun making bets on e-sports etc

also, the results of the POLL suggest that the betting is what people want to see the most:

Question:    Minerals development - top priority
E-sports Betting services + wallet betting features    - 233 (49.6%)
Anonymity development    - 125 (26.6%)
Multipool further development    - 24 (5.1%)
SC2 tournaments    - 51 (10.9%)
Wallet improvements (chat, price, better design)    - 37 (7.9%)
   
Total Voters: 470


look at all anon fails lately.. i say wait till someone solves anon and build on it from there,
in the meantime, make this coin unique!

Agreed that Minerals do not need anon per se for betting. However, the argument for anon is to create a demand other than betting which will include the market outside of betting. This will cause a natural demand and volume for the coin to trade at higher levels which will mitigate a lot of risks that coins face that trade at <1000 sats.

If you drop anon then make sure there are other ways to keep it alive, like artificial trading and paying the market listing fees or whatever for a period of at least 6-12 months. Also, at these low levels do not be surprised if the portfolios tilt from more people holding less to fewer people stocking up huge bags of Min and then dump on everyones a$$es later when the price increases. Lower prices work against wider distribution as it enables a few people to gather up huge bags. With only betting there will be no demand in the short term to cause a breakout over 1000 sats.

So the decision is between anon, trading between 10-20k with less artificial measures to leep it alive during betting development, or no anon trading <1000 sats for some months to come. I guess it is a tradeoff between the risks going either route as each has its pros and cons. Looking at the market it might be that Min missed the wave on anon due to the delays and it could be too late, although there will always be a human nature demand for something anon like to keep what they are doing to themselves.

I have since reduced my Min holding significantly so I do not care as much as previously about how the coin is managed. I am just stating the principles as some people think that the argument for anon is because the coin needs it for betting which is not the case. However, having said that anon betting would be a killer combination.

I am saying it again, the principle of Min is sound, some of the best I have seen. It is just how you get to the end result that needs to be determined. If the devs struggle with anon then drop it. Just have a plan B of how to get to the end result. An example of a plan B would be for the devs or community to buy and sell into their own orders come Oct/Nov to make sure an avg trading volume of 0.1 BTC is maintained, while natural demand is slowly grown outside of the existing holders through awareness, marketing, tournaments and expanding the portfolio. To support such a plan B, the community can raise 1 BTC or so with the purpose to every 23 hours assess the BTC trading volume and if it is <0.1BTC do a few trades into itself until the volume is over the threshold. The fund then becomes a market fee fund. This way time can be bought while betting services are being developed and marketed.

I've said this before, how do you expect anon to create substantial demand if all the other coins do anon too? Nobody really believes the government/tax man is watching them moving around MIN... no need for anon. For now.
47  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MIN] Minerals - POS. Fair Distribution. E-SPORTS BETTING TEST WENT LIVE! on: August 13, 2014, 11:23:54 AM

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You clearly don't get it do you. You are obviously have no knowledge about economics or business economics and obviously never had to run a company while doing R&D. To give you a hint - you are saying that the profits of the product after R&D is finished will make sure that the company runs and don't close doors while you are still doing R&D and building the product. Do you get it now or do I have to type it slower? Do you realize that the betting services alone of Minerals is not strong enough to make the coin survive until it is finished and adopted by the wider public? Alternative means of creating demand and volume is urgently required to prevent the coin from dying before the betting services can be rolled out and adopted. Shame on you as you obviously want the coin which has an excellent product and future to die prematurely.

Oh sure, I clearly "are have no knowledge" about econ. Although I have enough IQ points left to see that adding anon to the coin as a means of creating demand is no improvement whatsoever - do I have to explain this to you or does your attention span reach enough beyond trolling BCT threads and Bittrex price charts to realize that the vast majority altcoins have some form of anon too, and so there will be precisely 0 added demand for this coin? Sure, it'll be used as an excuse for another quick PnD, I'll give you that.

Your little R&D analogy is nice and all except for the fact that it makes no sense whatsoever. Profit? What profit? The dev's profit? You can't equate a cryptocurrency to a company. A company exists to make profit. A currency does not; it is a means of exchange. Why do I even have to explain this? And you're the one telling me I know nothing? The dev is not living off Minerals to survive. Thus he has much more leeway (= your precious R&D) than a company does. Again, what is really killing this coin is disillusioned people who were hoping to make a quick profit and instead actually have to wait a bit (OMG WTF OH NOES MUH $$$) because setting up a coin with a proper purpose takes time and effort.

48  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MIN] Minerals - POS. Fair Distribution. E-SPORTS BETTING TEST WENT LIVE! on: August 12, 2014, 03:26:30 PM
MIN  @500 sat ?   Huh Huh Huh  

1)Can dev updates Huh And put this ***** anon who every body wants ?
2) Can stupid shit noob traders stop dumping great coins for put volume in shit scams Huh

People complaining about price are a PLAGUE. Their obsession with fluctuations is nothing more than a thinly veiled, shallow opportunism that has been pervading and degrading this part of the forum for months now.

Why don't you just STFU if you have nothing of use to add to the discussion, all of you?

Your shitty complaints will do nothing. If you're looking for quick PnD profits (or losses, more likely) you've come to the wrong place.

I'm so sick and tired of your badly written whining that eternally comes down to "MUH $$$". Shame on you.

To the devs: good job so far. You've made something with a real purpose, and real potential. Take all the time you need. Believe it or not some of us do really believe in you.

49  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MIN] Minerals - POS. Fair Distribution. E-SPORTS BETTING TEST WENT LIVE! on: August 05, 2014, 05:32:24 PM
Developers, what is the next step plan.

We are debating between anonimity and redesign.

Please don't get drawn into the anon hype. Seriously, what does Minerals need anon for? As other users have pointed out the betting needs a lot more work for this coin to take off. Assigning time away from the core purpose of this coin and towards "popular" things like anon is a waste IMO. Also could you say more about the "redesign"?
50  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MIN] Minerals - POS. Fair Distribution. E-SPORTS BETTING TEST WENT LIVE! on: August 02, 2014, 09:21:17 PM
we manage to salvage the tournament by having the players to agree to play on monday afternoon pst. everything should be fine then and the games were excellent today, might i add.

dalovindj has a point though, please maximize efforts to make betting go smoothly - and tone down the language so crypto-noobs can understand it too - on Monday Wink
51  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MIN] Minerals - POS. Fair Distribution. E-SPORTS BETTING TEST WENT LIVE! on: August 02, 2014, 08:46:05 PM
Wow.  So that did not go well at all. 
Oh look, it's Fuddy McFud. Betting was down, yes, but I saw lots of new people expressing interest. The tournament has increased my faith in this coin.
52  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [RFC] æthereum: a turing-complete coin distributed as per bitcoin's blockchain on: July 25, 2014, 07:20:09 PM
Please look into a different name. You must be aware the naming is confusing and will cause future complications. Save yourself the trouble.

maybe that is the joke

I'm sure it is, but if this is to be viable currency it will need a viable name.
53  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [RFC] æthereum: a turing-complete coin distributed as per bitcoin's blockchain on: July 25, 2014, 06:41:31 PM
Please look into a different name. You must be aware the naming is confusing and will cause future complications. Save yourself the trouble.
54  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Roxcoin | X11 | 4.5m | PoW/PoS | NO Premine | POW Ended Smoothly! on: July 02, 2014, 12:29:55 AM
I saw a 4.5 BTC (126,440 ROX) buyout yesterday on C-Cex!
You did? I know what I saw, even promoted the coin on Twitter so no reason for me to FUD.
55  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Roxcoin | X11 | 4.5m | PoW/PoS | NO Premine | POW Ended Smoothly! on: July 02, 2014, 12:14:55 AM
I saw a 500 BTC sell order on C-CEX yesterday. Comments?
56  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][IPO] Quantum [QTM] - The First Long-term Investment Vehicle of Its Kind on: May 03, 2014, 02:07:28 AM
I can vouch for the integrity of QTM's members.
57  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: February 10, 2014, 11:49:34 AM
You lost a lot of good will these last week or two, bitfinex.

I will point out, non-gloatingly but matter of factly, (and I don't give a f$ck about the verbal abuse I'll get from Giancarlo) that in the past 2 months, Bitstamp tends to behave *a lot better* under pressure than Bitfinex.


I will agree. I am becoming less and less tolerant of these issues.

Less tolerant? This should be the last straw. MT4 is the defacto CFD platform used in the forex world, via BTCe. Those Russians sure have their shit together unlike these Bitfinex jokers.

MT4 also reportedly frozen
58  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: February 10, 2014, 11:45:53 AM
Insane, I wish we could sue
59  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Washington State Department of Financial Institutions on Crypto on: January 26, 2014, 04:09:48 PM
http://www.dfi.wa.gov/cs/money-services-providers.htm

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"Virtual currency, also known as digital currency or crypto-currency, is a medium of exchange not authorized or adopted by a government. There are many different digital currencies being used over the internet, the most commonly known being Bitcoin. In Washington, digital currency is included in the definition of "Money" in the Uniform Money Services Act (UMSA), chapter 19.230 RCW:

"Money means a medium of exchange that is authorized or adopted by the United States or a foreign government or other recognized medium of exchange. "Money" includes a monetary unit of account established by an intergovernmental organization or by agreement between two or more governments."

Companies wishing to transmit money for Washington residents in a digital currency form can contact DFI for a determination whether licensure under the UMSA is required. If it is, a license is required before the company can engage in the activity."

A Chinese website reported on this with the title "Washington Acknowledged BTC as a Currency", likely causing the jump of an hour ago.
Source: http://yibite.com/portal.php?mod=view&aid=1664
Weibo: http://weibo.com/2373182291/AtQbkBJx1

Thoughts?
60  Other / Off-topic / Re: Sky is falling [again] on: January 24, 2014, 12:41:25 PM
I do have something to say, and that's that this thread brings nothing new to any aspect of the Bitcoin discussion whatsoever.

Moreover if this thread only serves to prevaricate pretentious advice I have indeed nothing further to add.
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