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If I had 23K - 25K, I won't buy your domain names. Even if you told me you'll sell them all for half the price (or even a quarter). There isn't even one there that is so unique to fetch a good price. Probably the only domain there that "could" get a $100 is bitholics.com, but still not something anybody will fight for to get it.
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There are scripts for that, but seriously, those are no longer lucrative. There is no way google adword will allow faucets nowadays, and that is the most profitable one. Also, since people don't really care about your ads and just want to get the faucet claims, then you won't really get ad conversions, only ad impressions which does not really translate to a lot of earnings.
You also have to consider, that you are going to spend on hosting and also the free bitcoins you are going to give away.
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Can you use the loans you get from poloniex to buy from an ICO? Buy from people here on the forum? Pay for your house? Pay for your rent? Pay for your food? No.
Not everybody is using the loan for trading.
Well,you can't use loans you get from here to buy food or pay your house rent either.Of course you can if you live in Japan or something.I don't think you're on the same page with the OP here. @OP : You are partially right about getting loans from a trusted service but it isn't always lucrative.Moreover why would I want to go with terms designed by Poloniex as a lender when I can have my own rules here and people will agree to it ? I don't see no advantage of one over the other. Uhh, you can convert BTC to fiat. Not sure if you knew you can do that... |
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Dear community,
I want to have your oppinion and i will add mine.
My oppinion on personal loans is a no go zone.
My oppinion on loans on platforms like Poloniex, i would say yes.
Personal i already used services like that and it was profitable.
Only notice that the funds you set in loans like on Poloniex is based on days (duration contract) and as long the loans are in you can not take your funds back until the contract (days) are finished.
I would use services like Poloniex
I will not use person to person loans.
Regards.
GLT.
Can you use the loans you get from poloniex to buy from an ICO? Buy from people here on the forum? Pay for your house? Pay for your rent? Pay for your food? No. Not everybody is using the loan for trading. If you are siding with a lender, then if you want to lend BTC on poloniex, then expect an interest of about 3% per year. That doesn't even beat inflation in a country. |
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For your info, there is already more than 2 Million members registered in the forum. You can find out more about it here. Also you can check out Vod's site about some pretty cool statistics of Bitcointalk here. It tries to calculate how much active members we have on the forum and it has some per user stats as well. |
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Not sure if it is applicable to you as well, but someone sent me Phishing links to me via PM. He said his account was hacked. Not sure if that was true but I made an appropriate scam accusation. A DT member tagged him but no one did ban the account. You might be in the same situation if you really did not send the phishing links. |
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It seems like you've used bitcointalk earlier.
Do you have an original account on these forums?
Yeah come up here with your original old account, hope its not red  2 BTC is not much these days and it might not be enough for you to run advertising campaigns and other promotions to have players on early days. Also the lottery model you are talking about is not actually a lottery. Its a copy of busta game and I think you have one unlicensed version which you gonna use here.  Although domain name is perfect... 2B is not much when it comes to the casinos bankroll. However 2B is very high when it's only for for domain hosting and development costs. The biggest issue with this idea is that it has been tried and tested in the past and failed unfortunately. Basically with a low edge dice available there is absolutely no point in doing a lottery. Most will simply play with a corresponding win percentage and it can be like a regular lottery. 2 BTC is just about $13,500 right now and previously when I started on the forum and want to create my own gambling site (just in my head and did research without any sort of action to it), I estimated before that you need at least $20,000 to have someone create a good gambling script and site. Not sure if it is still applicable today, but that is what I found out before. This is also not including the initial bankroll of the site, and based from my old research again, you will need at least 10 BTC to operate a site with a decent max winning. I believe usually gambling site will offer as much as 1% of the house bank roll (taking into consideration the kelly criterion), so 1% would give a max win of 0.1 BTC. |
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People should calm down and actually read the article. The title is misleading, and once again shows how people here are easy to influence. The only thing this article points out is that alongside other tools, crypto can function as tool for terrorists, and that's true -- it can be used by terrorists, and likely is already. Even online banking is being put into the same subject. Crypto essentially offers the best possible features since transactions can't be stopped by centralized authorities, and receivers can't be prevented from receiving funding, and best of all is the fact that it doesn't require any sort of initial verification. It's an article stating the very obvious. It's pretty neutral in my opinion....
Well, cash can always be anonymous as well. In fact it is a lot more anonymous than a cryptocurrency with an open blockchain since you can trace every transaction. If a terrorist group to pay anyone, they can just hand over the cash and be done with it. No central authority to stop them, no one can stop a receiver from receiving it, and no need for initial verification. The world is just really paranoid about the "anonymity" feature of bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, where they can't even see the fact that cash is the same, it may just be slower and in a physical form but it has been used for hundreds of years already for illicit activities. I don't even think cryptocurrencies contribute to 10% of the current illegal transactions around the world yet where cash is likely king. |
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Thanks for the input. I will go forward with it, with or without an investor.
You should and don't let people put your project down. I did not state what I said here to stop you or discourage you. What I wanted you to do is to first create the site and just have some sort of investment option. Because right now, without anything to show but just a unique domain name then there is little chance you will get the investment you need. It would be better if you could show us a working site already. If you would follow bustadice, they made the site first and showed it is a good concept and trust can be had then the investments kept flowing. |
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I commend you for not following you father's foot steps, you are a great example to the kids if they know that their grandfather was a drunkard but not their father. I do agree that every person, even your own flesh and blood, will have a different tendencies in getting addicted or not into whatever like gambling, drinking, or, worse, drugs. But the best thing for a parent would probably still be guidance.
I, for one, have tried drugs and I am not too proud of it and regret doing it. I was young and the peer pressure was hard, but when I did try it I did not get addicted and, believe it or not, I did not enjoy it. Probably thanks to the inner voice I hear. I hear my parents talking in my head telling me it is bad to take drugs. Well and good, I never did it again.
That is why I've said that not all kids will be influenced and won't be affected even they have gambling parents. It is base on my experience and drunkard is an addiction to alcoholic drinks and that can be compared the same way with addiction to gambling. You shouldn't be proud that you have taken drugs but you must be proud that you have changed and that's a different scenario in your case that you have those voices coming in your mind and that's the voice of your parents, we're getting far from the main topic here. I guess there are a lot of temptations out here in the real world, but the good thing is that some or many be a lot of us has good parents that has guided us through the years to be prepared when they are not around. It is not always that we are guarded by our parents, and there would be a time that they will be gone forever, which makes me really sad but that is the reality in life. As a parent, I would say that the role of one is to hone your child to a point that even when you are away or gone, you can be at peace that your child can handle himself. As for gambling as a parent, to get back in track, I would totally avoid it. It may not lead to your addiction or your child's but keeping them away from it would be best. |
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Thanks @milewilda,
I believe if we develop a good looking game, that has a certain pace with it, a good chat system, it can be a success.
Without initial investment required for the house and money for marketing,I bet the system is going anywhere.Don't get me wrong but it's 2018 and the gambling market is saturated as fuck.To stand out,you either go for guerrilla marketing or go home.There are number of casinos with great games and fancy animations but community is just isn't ready to make a shift from the existing top names. I agree, usually people aren't into going to new casinos nowadays and would prefer ones that are trusted and have been out there for ages. I'd say that this is probably due to the fact that there have been plenty of scams that had occurred and it is easy to lose your bitcoins as it is immutable, so the people are afraid to try something new unless someone else tried it before. This is especially applicable to investing bitcoins into any kind of project. Another fact is that you have no real background around the forum and trust would be extremely hard to obtain. That initial investment may likely take a long time before it gets filled. Since you are developing a "high-speed" lottery, escrow will likely be a problem as well. |
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Maybe you should find some hobbies, try playing some sports, go to the gym or something like that, if you cant stop maybe you should go to the doctor, if that dont help you and you sitll gamble, try to set limits for you how much are you ready to lose this day, try lowering your amounts every day.
Having more things to do will definitely help, especially this gets you mind out of your addiction or whatever you want to get over with. Doctors are probably a last resort if things do get worse, and likely any addict would be in denial of his addiction so he would never got to a doctor. I'd say the best help would definitely be to tell your family about your addiction or whatever you are going through. Limits may help, but what is really stopping your from depositing more and more into the casino, effectively breaking your limit? Getting out of an addictions is truly a difficult and hard thing to get over. |
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Good day friend,
I've been away for quite a while and suddenly remember this section of the forum. I am not sure if you are agreeable to accept a car as collateral, but I am just in desperate need. I have bills to pay and a mortgage on the house, so the banks are trying to foreclose my house. Problem is, I am an uber driver and I need my car to generate income and the banks don't want to give me another loan. So I turn to people here on the forum. I've read the threads of the other lenders, and it seems they are not accepting any physical collateral. So I am hoping you can help me out since I did not see anything about this.
My car is about worth 14k USD, and I know it's lower than my asked amount. But I hope you can consider this, or if you can offer the highest you can give.
Hope you can help me out.
Loan Amount: 2BTC or max I can get
Interest to be paid: 5%/month
Due date: 6 months from now
Collateral Offered: 2015 Toyota Prius (I will give the papers and also sign a contract if needed)
Hello to you too friend, Hmm, sorry to hear about your predicament, but I can't say that I can help you. It seems like you are implying you are in the USA, yes? That would mean you are half way across the globe from me, and there is really no security for me to give that loan. I would accept a valid physical collateral, but probably if it would be within my vicinity, but I would be more inclined to not really accept one and would rather prefer something digital which is easily secured like altcoins. Another fact is that a car would be extremely hard to sell as second hand, unless you under price it by a great margin. So the price would be way lower than what you are asking, and probably you can only get up to half what you are saying it is worth though I am not sure about the veracity of the price you stated it is worth. I know it is a hard life, but sadly I cannot help you. Please try other lenders who are in the US and thank you for your interest in my service. |
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As a role model though, you should show that you are someone they should look up to. Being a gambler is not bad of course, but it does not really set a good example. This is true, we should set an example to our kids and we must be the role model for them. There are good and bad results for exposing your kid early in gambling industry. Even if you gamble pretty low amounts, the fact is that it could lead to you child thinking that it is alright to gamble. He may grow up to be someone who gets exposed to gambling early and result to him being addicted to it.
This is one of the bad result that I'm saying. You are correct that there is a chance they do not turn into an addicted gambler, but still you cannot discount the fact that there is a chance he can get addicted to it. It is better to uphold an image that you do not gamble so when the child grows up, he will think to himself that his dad/mom did not gamble so why should I?
I'll set an example, my father is a drunkard but to tell you the fact, I didn't grew up as a drunkard. This is why I've said that there are kids that aren't affected even they have a gambling parents. I cannot dictate any parent on what to do, because it is their sole decision what to do with their kids but it is something I morally feel to be right to tell parents.
Right again, they are all big and they know what's best for their kids.  I commend you for not following you father's foot steps, you are a great example to the kids if they know that their grandfather was a drunkard but not their father. I do agree that every person, even your own flesh and blood, will have a different tendencies in getting addicted or not into whatever like gambling, drinking, or, worse, drugs. But the best thing for a parent would probably still be guidance. I, for one, have tried drugs and I am not too proud of it and regret doing it. I was young and the peer pressure was hard, but when I did try it I did not get addicted and, believe it or not, I did not enjoy it. Probably thanks to the inner voice I hear. I hear my parents talking in my head telling me it is bad to take drugs. Well and good, I never did it again. |
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So people don't cheat the casinos. If they think you are cheating in any way, they have every right to KYC.
What is the difference when you turn in your chips at the poker room in your city. They will usually ask for an ID. That is the only info needed since they know who you are, see you and have you on camera, unlike online shops.
If an online casino has proof that you have been cheating in some way or form and that you have violated their terms and conditions they do not need to ask for any kind of information out of you, when you try to withdraw your earnings they can just quote their terms and conditions and show proof that you violated them so to me what you are saying doesn't make sense. Not really about cheating, more of because the governments are requiring it so that the casino can operate smoothly. I don't think the casinos will even care about your identity to be honest. They don't care about that, all they care is that you deposit something into their casino and play. Usually casinos have a way to detect you are cheating or have already implemented the most secure way to operate their site. Also, since the casinos don't really put their money in their hot wallets anymore, and just keep a small portion in the hot wallet and the greater chunk in the cold wallet, anyone who wins big will require an approval. Hence, before anyone who cheated will be able to withdraw their winnings they will be reviewed and caught immediately. |
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I'll put myself in the situation. I'm not comfortable to gamble with my young one and I don't want him/her to be like me. However there are things that we need to enjoy and there's no need to hide it as our kid grows. Adults are changing, kids are developing and there are kids who are growing up on a place where they are influenced by their parents but there are also those kids that aren't affected whether they were grown up by their parents into a gambling place. Parents must give their best to their kids and we all have different meaning and ways of parenting.
As a role model though, you should show that you are someone they should look up to. Being a gambler is not bad of course, but it does not really set a good example. Even if you gamble pretty low amounts, the fact is that it could lead to you child thinking that it is alright to gamble. He may grow up to be someone who gets exposed to gambling early and result to him being addicted to it. You are correct that there is a chance they do not turn into an addicted gambler, but still you cannot discount the fact that there is a chance he can get addicted to it. It is better to uphold an image that you do not gamble so when the child grows up, he will think to himself that his dad/mom did not gamble so why should I? I cannot dictate any parent on what to do, because it is their sole decision what to do with their kids but it is something I morally feel to be right to tell parents. |
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Loan Amount: 0.0042
Reason for Taking out a Loan: personal expense
Amount to be repaid: 0.0052
Repayment Date: 9th April
Type of Collateral: 570,000 like coin
Bitcoin Address: 1CMn22axyGAimaVEUcq4eCK4yoo37BWszU
Not interested in like coin and small loans. Sorry.
Bumping the service. |
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