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fails like this need to happen. mainly to teach lessons that would be ignored otherwise since they are too insignificant to be noticed.
although this lesson will be ignored too most likely.
The DAO is a good concept. It is still in the early stage of developments. So there will be some growth pains. I think so. The Ethereum is just one year old. It will make more mistakes in the future, we have to be tolerant.
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Bitcoin will not destroy any bank. Bitcoin is not very stable, while banks are more stable ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) That could be right. Banks can use anything to make profit. Money is just one medium/tool. They can use bitcoin as well.
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believing in bitcoin is the key of succes for bitcoiner. we must believe bitcoin will rise again, with this believing we will hold our bitcoin if the price falling like some days ago.
Without our belief in bitcoin we cannot invest because we are afraid that we lose our money in the future, this is like gambling more or less where we predict the future base on the historical statistics and hope we are on the right track now to hope for a good future. Any investment fills your mind with fear. Investing $1k in anything will make you afraid of loosing it. It's pretty obvious that you can't invest in something you don't believe in - that's like loaning $100 to a guy here with -50 Trust. What you are saying is true but if you are looking for higher profits then you need to take that risk as only saving will not more profitable which you can expect from investing it. thats true, without risk you will not make any profit and risking sometimes is a good thing, to be honest i believe in bitcoins thats why i invest in it I think at a moment bitcoin is the best place to invest our money as bitcoin will be much higher in future and I don't see any risk in investing my money in it. The bitcoin is still too risky. It is better not to invest more than 20% of your investable income into it.
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DAO is fail but should have been allowed to fail. Hardfork is most embarrassing event ever in crypto history. Absolutely shameful.
Are you for fuckin real? The most shame events are the constant hacks and attacks. This is the type of shit that's hodling back many many investors from entering the crypto-sphere. Get a grip. FFS That is right. If the authorities in the land cannot cope with that, then the cryto currency developers should deal with that.
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I can tell by myself who has DAO tokens, i will not sell as i expect the price to go up again after the fork and trading/changing hands ETH is done.
you still expect the price of the dao to grow? i think that right now it is impossible and i would invest into etc instead in order to make profit Please buy some ETC to support the price. It seems the ETC has dropped quite a lot in the last few days. Beyond theives and scammers no right minded morally correct person has any interest in supporting the ETC criminal coin. There is no need to worry about the ETC any more. It will be a independent coin like Expanse or Shift.
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This is no usual pump. It could go either way.
The price is more like to go down due to the big dump by the Ethereum ICO holders and the hacker. Yes, for a while at least. I'm afraid we haven't seen the big dump yet. The ETC price could drift lower. The big dump will happen when the ETC price is less than $1 or lower.
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I can tell by myself who has DAO tokens, i will not sell as i expect the price to go up again after the fork and trading/changing hands ETH is done.
you still expect the price of the dao to grow? i think that right now it is impossible and i would invest into etc instead in order to make profit Please buy some ETC to support the price. It seems the ETC has dropped quite a lot in the last few days.
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It is not about "differing philosophies" in Bitcoin and Ethereum. The truth is they have the same philosophy. If you ask the development team of both what their philosophies are about blockchains and decentralization, I know most of them would have almost the same answers. But I do not know why Vitalik and his development team thought it was ok to roll back the transaction history even if they intend to do it only once. Now people are thinking that Bitcoin and the Ethereum fork have different philosophies.
Maybe someone should interview Vitalik and ask him why he thought it was ok to roll back the transaction history.
He has stated clearly in the blogs in the past that it is OK to rool back the transactions to protect the Ethereum ecosystem.
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You are making 35% more profit by mining ETC instead of ETH ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) It's a good idea also to invest in ETC, people are buying like crazy and the price is triple already in 2 weeks not anymore, it's like 3% more profit? ridiculous low, you can mine either one, but with etc you can actually mine more coin, and this can make the difference if the price skyrocket At this moment, mining ETC is about 2% more profitable than mining ETH. But the ECT price is dropping.
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Why do not you ask the DAO hackers to return the DAO he stole? If he returned it, there was no need for the hard fork. It would be a good idea to ask the DAO hacker to donate his "stolen" coins and support the development of ETC.
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That is right. There will be many forks of the ETC and many people will own many kinds of ETC in the future.
So the current ETC holders will be rich in the future. But the combined values of the various ETC could be lower.
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I don't know what to think of this "Ethereum Classic" beside that I don't like it. I'm kinda loyalist, and will stick to Ethereum which is backed by a world-renowned team while Ethereum Classic is made by random people on the Internet ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ... Having it more profitable than Ethereum won't last long, since a little price change kills everything... Many world renowned team will support the Ethereum ETH not the ETC. So will ETC get its owner developers? I do not think so. The market cap of the ETC might not be able to enable it to have its own developers.
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The next victim for Vitalik to dump his Ethereum IPO scamtoke on will be the ETC lovers. Vitalk and his friends have too many.
When the Vitalik and friends dump the ETC, the ETC price could drop a lot and it might even go to zero. They have the incentive to do that. A single Ethereum ETC chain will be more valuable than two chains.
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This is no usual pump. It could go either way.
The price is more like to go down due to the big dump by the Ethereum ICO holders and the hacker.
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it will be great if banks can adopt the blockchain technology but it is impossible for them to do so because they can not show their transactions to everyone and then will never let anyone see each others balance
No, Banks dont need to adopt the blockchain technology because this will make the bank accounts anonymous. How about the government accounts ? What will happen to them ? How to know if this government officials are corrupting the country ? We need to know all the transactions of all the banks in a country and we need to know whos can be punished or not. And bitcoin will always be anonymous no matter what. The blockchain does not make the banks account anonymous. The banks can correlate the account and user.
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Could you please upgrade me to member?
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i ve tried to test expense too, as my 380's are unstable on etc & eth but miner crash at start when it try on pool exp.suprnova.cc but i don't understand why some miners crash on etc and others working fine all 380 2 gigas gpu's asus ring 5 gpu they working fine, + 1 solo xfx working fine too but my xfx 6 gpu ring just get crazy at start or after few minutes on etc and some more on eth before it get errors and the 5x sapphire can few minutes or couple of hours before get same errors ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) so weird You just need to reduce the voltage or the frequency of your graphics cards. They might be too hot.
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He is not an hacker neither a criminal. He use the smart (no so) contract the way they were designed that set.
He is a just a smart person and a bug finder.
You might be right. So there is no hack to the Bitfinex or the Mt Gox. Those are all due to bugs in software.
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WOW you seem mighty desperate and threatened by ETC. You posted this exact same sentence + link already with a different topic name (spamming) Someone should report this Fraud. It's hilarious because of all the grand boasting you did about Ethereum and yet the crowd has spoken.. they want ETC not ETH. So your shitting your pants. ..the crowd also voted you as a fraud. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Feel the walls closing in on you ? getting hard to breath with that bag your clutching ? Good ..suffer Fraud boy. Do you want ETC? Do you think ETC is not a scam? ETC is part of the Ethereum, so it could also be a scam? ETC is not a part of Ethereum. It is the old chain but without being centralized. That is right. So the ETC should get its own developers and develop the ETC further to be used by others.
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