Eth hardfork incoming - Race to the exits?

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

Well, let me ask you this, mister neutrality: How do you feel about immutability?

I feel you need to be more specific on what you are asking and...

In regards to?

If you want to ask questions now perhaps you may want to be more specific about your question.

Now that you've decided to actually ask me as opposed to assuming things, please be clear on your question.

Please stop wasting my time by asking unclear questions.

Let me ask you a question: Do you always shoot first and then ask questions later?


Moreso do you ask unclear questions and then wait for people to attempt to get clarity?

Yeah, I tend to do that. But still...
Where's your cognitive humility, is all? Unless you're trying to move the market, I don't really get the point of this thread. It's a dead horse. When you claim to have no bias, it rings bells and makes you look silly. I'm not trying to be a dick. I promise. 

[European Central Bank]

i think it's gonna be a fascinating test of how much people truly believe in immutability vs big daddy controlling things. i'm gonna guess that they like having a daddy.

it is important for bitcoin, that carries the standard. the people looking for more bitcoin via other avenues ain't gonna care so much.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

i think it's gonna be a fascinating test of how much people truly believe in immutability vs big daddy controlling things. i'm gonna guess that they like having a daddy.

it is important for bitcoin, that carries the standard. the people looking for more bitcoin via other avenues ain't gonna care so much.

I'm afraid the market will react positively to big daddy. I hate that.
But I'm biased that way.

[ArticMine]

Well, let me ask you this, mister neutrality: How do you feel about immutability?

Immutability in this context will make anyone who is long (or short) an anonymous coin not neutral. That would include among other coins Monero. For this reason I do not consider myself neutral here, even though I do not hold any ETH or DAO.

Edit: A hard fork to change the ownership of coins is next to impossible to pull of with Monero since it would break any subsequent transactions that used the tainted coins as a mixin.

[smoothie]

Well, let me ask you this, mister neutrality: How do you feel about immutability?

I feel you need to be more specific on what you are asking and...

In regards to?

If you want to ask questions now perhaps you may want to be more specific about your question.

Now that you've decided to actually ask me as opposed to assuming things, please be clear on your question.

Please stop wasting my time by asking unclear questions.

Let me ask you a question: Do you always shoot first and then ask questions later?


Moreso do you ask unclear questions and then wait for people to attempt to get clarity?

Yeah, I tend to do that. But still...
Where's your cognitive humility, is all? Unless you're trying to move the market, I don't really get the point of this thread. It's a dead horse. When you claim to have no bias, it rings bells and makes you look silly. I'm not trying to be a dick. I promise. 

This thread is to ask a simple question.

Obviously you can't seem to take things at face value and are quick to assume there is an ulterior motive.

[smoothie]

Well, let me ask you this, mister neutrality: How do you feel about immutability?

Immutability in this context will make anyone who is long (or short) an anonymous coin not neutral. That would include among other coins Monero. For this reason I do not consider myself neutral here, even though I do not hold any ETH or DAO.

What's interesting is that even though I have my own interests in certain coins and not in others, I do not care if ETH goes up or down.

My question was more of what will people do once they get their ETH back after the hard fork? Will it be a race to the exits?

I was genuinely interested in the psychology of people who had their ETH stolen and now will receive it back and what they will do with it.

I dont care if ETH goes to the moon or to hell.

By my own definition I am neutral as either outcome doesn't really benefit me (at least I don't see it that way).

If I were day trading ETH then sure I would be biased or if I owned some ETH too.

But neither of those claims as Mr. "Mayor" wanted to assert/assume are true.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

Well, let me ask you this, mister neutrality: How do you feel about immutability?

Immutability in this context will make anyone who is long (or short) an anonymous coin not neutral. That would include among other coins Monero. For this reason I do not consider myself neutral here, even though I do not hold any ETH or DAO.

What's interesting is that even though I have my own interests in certain coins and not in others, I do not care if ETH goes up or down.

My question was more of what will people do once they get their ETH back after the hard fork? Will it be a race to the exits?

I was genuinely interested in the psychology of people who had their ETH stolen and now will receive it back and what they will do with it.

I dont care if ETH goes to the moon or to hell.

By my own definition I am neutral as either outcome doesn't really benefit me (at least I don't see it that way).

If I were day trading ETH then sure I would be biased or if I owned some ETH too.

But neither of those claims as Mr. "Mayor" wanted to assert/assume are true.

I need a new handle.

Well, let me ask you this, mister neutrality: How do you feel about immutability?

Immutability in this context will make anyone who is long (or short) an anonymous coin not neutral. That would include among other coins Monero. For this reason I do not consider myself neutral here, even though I do not hold any ETH or DAO.

This is all I'm saying.

[WhatsBitcoin]

I think BMB is trying to say you can't just Humpy-Dumpty your way with words. Language means what it means, you aren't neutral.
But it's off-topic. He's a notorious stray.

[smoothie]

I think BMB is trying to say you can't just Humpy-Dumpty your way with words. Language means what it means, you aren't neutral.
But it's off-topic. He's a notorious stray.

It is also impossible to assert one's stance fully without asking them their position either.

Assuming never does anyone any favors.

Let's agree to disagree.

[iCEBREAKER]

Well, let me ask you this, mister neutrality: How do you feel about immutability?

Immutability in this context will make anyone who is long (or short) an anonymous coin not neutral. That would include among other coins Monero. For this reason I do not consider myself neutral here, even though I do not hold any ETH or DAO.

Edit: A hard fork to change the ownership of coins is next to impossible to pull of with Monero since it would break any subsequent transactions that used the tainted coins as a mixin.

This signature-worthy quote succinctly demonstrates yet another way in which Monero does not suffer from the overhang of potential fraud.

Thank you smoothie, for unlocking the thread in light of AM's epic post and the need to reevaluate the OP in light of ETC's recent surge of popularity.   

[Ludwish]

So far, the Ethereum ETH price is still higher than $10 a few weeks after the hard fork. So there is no race to the exit.

[mining1]

Ofc it isnt. Just another failed developer trying to make a living outta speculating on cryptocurrencies, using any influence they have to shake weak hands.

[Minecache]

Hodl strong all fellow ETH hodlers. The amount of FUD generated by the ETC criminal coin supporters has been unprecedented however the price and belief in ETH is unshakable.

[Hueristic]

Hodl strong all fellow ETH hodlers. The amount of FUD generated by the ETC criminal coin supporters has been unprecedented however the price and belief in ETH is unshakable.

Abandon hope all ye who enter here. As I predicted the trend is spot on. ETH is in a catch22 that it cannot recover from.

[bbc.reporter]

With the ETH hardfork incoming in roughly 3 days time, will the people who had their ETH stolen by the Dao Hack sell?

Being completely ubiased as I own 0 ETH if I was to hypothetically put myself into the shoes of the people who lost ETH and are now getting it back due to the hard fork, I would probably be a seller.

I'm curious what others think.

Is this a case of a race to the exits?

Now that we know what really happened it was the opposite that should have been done. It was really a time to buy a lot of ETH so that it could be split with the equivalent amount of ETC doubling your coins. Maybe some clever people knew that this will happen.

[luzhiren001]

This is just a play

[Minecache]

With the ETH hardfork incoming in roughly 3 days time, will the people who had their ETH stolen by the Dao Hack sell?

Being completely ubiased as I own 0 ETH if I was to hypothetically put myself into the shoes of the people who lost ETH and are now getting it back due to the hard fork, I would probably be a seller.

I'm curious what others think.

Is this a case of a race to the exits?

Now that we know what really happened it was the opposite that should have been done. It was really a time to buy a lot of ETH so that it could be split with the equivalent amount of ETC doubling your coins. Maybe some clever people knew that this will happen.

Well if you were smart like me you could read all the signs on here and other fora as to what was about to happen. I even posted as much that prefork was the time to buy a lot of ETH but was shouted down by the usual troll haters. Anyway post-fork I, and all other ETH believers and hodlers have profited handsomely.

[1ofthemany]

Well if you were smart like me...

Stopped reading

[takingthis4]

I can tell by myself who has DAO tokens, i will not sell as i expect the price to go up again after the fork and trading/changing hands ETH is done.

you still expect the price of the dao to grow? i think that right now it is impossible and i would invest into etc instead in order to make profit

[Ultrabat]

I can tell by myself who has DAO tokens, i will not sell as i expect the price to go up again after the fork and trading/changing hands ETH is done.

you still expect the price of the dao to grow? i think that right now it is impossible and i would invest into etc instead in order to make profit

Please buy some ETC to support the price. It seems the ETC has dropped quite a lot in the last few days.