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Ok people I see that many of you are from USA and do not know where Iconomi actually is from. I am giving this post for all long term investors in Iconomi so they will understand more about this company's origins (and team birthplace) so we will stop with eastern europe bullshit. So most of you will stop be worried on eastern scams and so on. Where is Slovenia?  As you can see on a picture just under Austria which is not in eastern europe but in central. Historically those two countries were connected since origins, the only difference is much different language. And also you can see Slovenia is just next to "bella Italia". And even more, there is a big difference between Slovenia and Slovakia (as I read about few hundret post before). Slovakia is more eastern and use to be one country together with Czech Republic where Cashilla is registerd but it still has the same team from Slovenia. See picture below  Where is Iconomi base? The city is called Ljubljana and its capital of this small country (2 mil inhabitants, 25 years of independence this year). Some picture of it  summer And where is their office?  somewhere on the right side of that picture So now people you know where is it so please start trusting in it that its not just random eastern scam. And its part of European Union so EU authorities have juristiction in Slovenia not USA agencies. ICONOMI team should invite all ICONOMI investors in Q1 2017 to ICONOMI OFM launch party in Ljubljana. Here you can see how Ljubljana looks like. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vuzb6InnEm8 |
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Sorry for the noob question again but what is ICNX
This is the new investment tool right? So if we buy this we get payments from this from the investing. Then we get additional dividends from the ICN?
https://ico.iconomi.net/about-icnx-indexTHANKS!!! so holding ICNX is basically the same as buying a small amount of the mentioned currencies right? This is interesting indeed if I am right? Yes this is the best investment for investors that belive cripto will expand. If they will buy ICNX on ICONOMI site it will be very SIMPLE and SAFE. And this is the main thing that investor in old economi are looking for. |
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Sorry for the noob question again but what is ICNX
This is the new investment tool right? So if we buy this we get payments from this from the investing. Then we get additional dividends from the ICN?
https://ico.iconomi.net/about-icnx-index |
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I'm going to stop feeding the troll. He is obviously lying and has a hidden agenda to spread negativity about ICN
Or I'm telling the truth and these f*cktards at Iconomi are ignoring my support requests. MESSAGE TO ALL POTENTIAL INVESTORS. ICONOMI ARE SCAMSTERS. REFUSING TO RELEASE MY ICO FUNDS. I AM REPORTING THEM TO THE SEC.Dear Iconomi investor. Do you know, that you were trolling and want the answer from ICONIMI from a.m. 01:31 to a.m. 7:15 local time. Do you think that ICONIMI team deserve to get the energy for new day? |
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it's funny to see people talking about dividends... holding just a few ICN.  guys, please, there's a minimum icn to receive dividends. and if you have the minimum or something like, you probably will receive just a few satoshis worth of ETH. Do the math. Dividends will be very, very, very low at the beginning |
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For Tim Žagar in Shanghai just click http://shmeetup.com/ , choose English language and then Meetups on the right |
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For Tim Žagar in Shanghai just click http://shmeetup.com/ , choose English language and then Meetups on the right |
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I have a question.
I am trying to download Ethereum Wallet allready for 10 days. This is crazy.
Is this normal that it takes so long?
What are your expriences?
Which wallet do you recommend, Ethereum Wallet or MyEtherWallet?
Do both wallets support dividends?
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Has there been any estimates on how the dividend payment is calculated?
I've already written this about ICN dividends: https://www.reddit.com/r/ICONOMI/comments/5bi5em/what_defines_success_for_icnp/?st=ivdx8vk1&sh=07c6dbb9As the article above discusses, ICNP needs to go from its initial $4.6M to 2.7X during 2017 for a 15% annual dividend and 3.7X during 2017 for a 25% annual dividend. Hitting 3.7X would make ICN a better dividend asset than any stock on NASDAQ and make ICONOMI a rock-star crypto on Wall Street. So let's look at the rock-star crypto 3.7X case. $4.6M X 3.7 = $17M. Profit is $17M - $4.6M = $12.4M. Dividends to be distributed during 2017 would be 20% of that profit or $12.4M*0.20 = $2.5M. These dividends would be distributed over 100M ICN tokens so each ICN token would receive $2.5M / 100M = 0.025 USD = 2.5 cents per ICN token over ALL of 2017. If there was a constant weekly distribution of dividends over the 52 weeks in 2017, then the weekly distribution for each ICN would be 0.025 USD / 52 = 0.0005 USD per week or one-twentieth of a penny per week per ICN. So to equal the very best dividend stock on NASDAQ, ICONOMI must provide dividends per individual ICN token of $0.0005 USD per week or 0.025 USD total during all of 2017. This analysis ignores other income streams besides ICNP. This also ignores buying still more ICN weekly with your dividends for a compounding effect. Getting back to the quote at the top of this post, EVERYBODY would be very satisfied with $0.10 weekly dividend per individual ICN. This would mean ICONOMI would be paying out out $0.10 * 52 = $5.20 during 2017 on each ICO $0.1257 ICN token. They would need $5.20 * 100M = $520M in cash to distribute as dividends to meet this 0.10USD per week per ICN target. If this half-billion dollar dividend pool came from 20% of ICNP total profits, then the ICNP profits need to be $520M/0.2 = $2.6 billion. With a B. Growing the ICNP from its current $4.6M to $2.6046B is a multiplier of 566X, in a direct comparison of the 3.7X multiplier above that would make ICONOMI a NASDAQ rock star. Hope is a good thing for the human mind to have. Math is a better thing for the human mind to have. Now, is ICN a panic sell if they can't hit a ridiculous 566X profit multiplier and turn ICNP into a multi-billion dollar fund in under 12 months to feed everybody's totally unrealistic dreams of $0.10 weekly profits per ICN? Not at all. ICN IS NOT A PANIC SELL WHEN YOU SUDDENLY REALIZE THE TRUTH ABOUT IT. IT IS A DEFINITE BUY.ICONOMI is not aimed at crypto children that don't know enough math to realize when their dreams are ridiculous. ICONOMI is aimed at traditional fiat investors that currently have WAY WAY WAY more money to invest than the entire total in crypto right now. And those traditional fiat investors are all crazy starved for income yield since the central banks have collapsed interest rates to zero over the past eight years. IF ICONOMI CAN HIT A 3.7X MULTIPLIER FOR ICNP TO BECOME BETTER THAN ANY OTHER NASDAQ DIVIDEND INVESTMENT, TRADITIONAL INVESTORS WILL POUR HUGE AMOUNTS INTO BUYING UP ICN TOKENS TO SECURE THAT DIVIDEND LEVEL FOR THEMSELVES.Traditional fiat investors do not live in the crypto dream fantasy world of hoping for 566X multipliers on crypto-ICO performance funds. They live in the real world where they will pour HUGE sums of money into purchasing any investment that can give them a 25% annual return on their money. That may be ICN tokens very soon, if ICONOMI can turn $4.6M into $17M during 2017 by investing ICNP funds into startup crypto efforts. And you certainly should not panic about putting your money into something that could quite easily give you 25% or more return on your investment annually. I am HODLING. There's also this: Actually, to get to Ethereum's current level of success ICN must only go to 0.1257 * 32 = $4.02 each. This implies a market cap of "only" $400M.
Also, as a mined coin, Ethereum has inflation of 18M ETH per year. As an unmined token, ICN has 0% inflation forever. This is a permanent advantage that ICN has over ETH in being priced as a crypto asset.
True... 0% Inflation is another reason why ICN MarketCap will eventually surpass ETH MarketCap. Another reason why ICONOMI is going to the moon: ICN total supply of 100million IS FINAL, NEVER GOES UP. 0% Inflation.ICN Dividends are paid in ETH, not ICN.Dividends are NOT like Lisk Proof-of-Stake or ETH proof-of-work systems where new coins are added DAILY to Lisk & ETH total supply. ICN won't suffer from daily dumping by Mining Farms on the Exchanges like ETH & Lisk.
  After reading this quality post...anyone who give ease and sell their ICN below 1 usd is the most crazy lazy person. If You need money go to work....don't sell your dividend  Haaa! For such low dividend why would anyone invest in ICONOMI? I would go back to Nasdaq which is time tested and reputed. Unless Iconomi can make me a millionaire from few hundred dollars I am not interested. The dividend it is not the biggest issue. Look at Tesla Motors, Uber... They dont have any profit but they have good business model wich enable them more then 50% revenue growth. Iconomi will have more than 100% year revenue growth at last for 5 years. This is the main reason that investors will grab the ICONOMI. |
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People need to understand that ICONOMI is NOT like any other ICO. ICONOMI is the: . 1st ICO to offer Bounty hunters option to sell their bounties for Bitcoin BEFORE the launch. (No dumping on exchanges)
. 1st ICO to make DEVS hodl their 8% share of total ICN supply for 6 months. (Less supply)
. 1st ICO by a team with an ALREADY REGULATED business (Cashila.com)
. 1st ICO by a team with an ALREADY BUILT PRODUCT (ICONOMI.NET trading platform; this proves they can build the Open Fund Management platform): https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/iconomi-buy-sell-and-use-ether/id1133954394
. 1st ICO to offer Financial instruments like ICN.index, ICN.Performance to bring money from outside crypto
. 1st ICO to introduce Open Fund Management platform like eToro.com to attract traders from outside crypto... in short, ICONOMI launch will be EPIC. ICN Market Cap is heading straight to TOP 3 on Market Cap list. NO DOUBT. MOST IMPORTANT
.1st ICO that will take share on 3 bilion USD ETF market http://www.investopedia.com/articles/etfs/071216/how-big-global-etf-market-blk-stt.asp |
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Guys please refrain from posting and discussing things as if you are the experts or a team member, this just is not a good public relation strategy.
I asked @ICONOMI to provide forum usernames of #Iconomi team members long time ago but nothing so far.
A little odd that a big team with a dozen members only one officially introduced, so is that mean other members has no participation in this thread? if yes then what a role models or such supporters and if no meaning they have participated in this thread but without letting the public know their usernames which again is a bad thing imo.
Main problem is still with Ethereum network if they have allready announced some instructions all investor will try to test or make a transactions. At the current network everybody will have problems and than it is difficult to comunicate and help 3.500 investors. When network will be cleaned it will be less stressfull for everyone. The most important is that they are developing the product. Developing the product is at the moment no connected to Ethereum network problems. The bad thing is that we cant sell ICN writh now. The good thing is that when launch will be done the product will be much more developed and this would be the reason for better ICN price on exchange |
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Small summary of important infos, for those tl;dr out there: 1. All investments in ICONOMI are safe, say fund managers, your investments didn't failed or get lost. 2. Ethereum network is still under attack, this creates problems to miners and slows down synchronization of wallets (block chain). Creators of network (not connected to ICONOMI) are working hard to prevent attacks, this is why some important changes were introduced in last month. Process is still active. 3. Consequently, ICN tokens are not yet issued, if the Ethereum Network will be stable, it will happen on 25th October 4. Testing t-ICN tokens were issued, for those who are to anxious to check if everything works fine. 5. For well-informed only: You don't need to, but you can prepare your own Ethereum Wallet and Address to redirect issued ICN tokens there. You should get your ethereum desktop wallet (address), get some experience with handling (try to backup and restore your account, buy some small amount of Ethereum on some exchange and transfer it to your account and back...). Only then you redirect issuing address on ico.iconomi.netCheers! Iconomi has 3508 investors and just 5 trolss (0,1%) has problem with safe issue of ICN. Iconomi dev pley on long run. This can be noticed everywhere. |
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There is much interest that ETHEREUM would not get his goal.
1. Bigs banks that will lose their market. It is much cheaper to make Ethereum bad than lose money because of Ethereum
2. Traders that woult like to earn on shorting ETH.
If Ethereum would like to find the person who made problem on network should contact exchanges and try to find who is shorting ETH
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It will be nice if you can make a movie about wallets and transfering test ICN as you record confirmation on EUR and USD.
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