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October 20, 2016, 05:41:43 AM
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The test ICN was deployed successfully. Can we expect the genesis a little before 25th Oct now?

Deployed yes. Released not.

As of now release is scheduled for Tue, 25th October 1pm UTC.
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October 20, 2016, 05:47:59 AM
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Good evening everyone!

MrPresident & I have launched a new dedicated forum for ICONOMI co-funders & supporters!

We look forward to seeing you at: https://iconomi.rocket.chat







is it working? Login problem, getting internal server error
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October 20, 2016, 05:51:09 AM
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is it working? Login problem, getting internal server error
yes there are already 34 members...  i will try rebooting the server for you.  Wink
done.

The test ICN was deployed successfully. Can we expect the genesis a little before 25th Oct now?

Deployed yes. Released not.

As of now release is scheduled for Tue, 25th October 1pm UTC.

Yaay, tickled pink heres.

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October 20, 2016, 05:56:30 AM
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is it working? Login problem, getting internal server error
yes there are already 34 members...  i will try rebooting the server for you.  Wink
done.

Oh yes. Just managed to logged in .Thanks Wink
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October 20, 2016, 06:45:42 AM
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Small summary of important infos, for those tl;dr out there:

1. All investments in ICONOMI are safe, say fund managers, your investments didn't failed or get lost.
2. Ethereum network is still under attack, this creates problems to miners and slows down synchronization of wallets (block chain). Creators of network (not connected to ICONOMI) are working hard to prevent attacks, this is why some important changes were introduced in last month. Process is still active.
3. Consequently, ICN tokens are not yet issued, if the Ethereum Network will be stable, it will happen on 25th October
4. Testing t-ICN tokens were issued, for those who are to anxious to check if everything works fine.
5. For well-informed only: You don't need to, but you can prepare your own Ethereum Wallet and Address to redirect issued ICN tokens there. You should get your ethereum desktop wallet (address), get some experience with handling (try to backup and restore your account, buy some small amount of Ethereum on some exchange and transfer it to your account and back...). Only then you redirect issuing address on ico.iconomi.net

Cheers!
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October 20, 2016, 06:52:20 AM
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is it working? Login problem, getting internal server error
yes there are already 34 members...  i will try rebooting the server for you.  Wink
done.

Oh yes. Just managed to logged in .Thanks Wink

I think I just broke da server lol

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October 20, 2016, 07:03:39 AM
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I think I just broke da server lol

No big deal... rocket.chat will restore it in a moment. Should be online soon  Wink
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October 20, 2016, 07:08:15 AM
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For your  own coins... Never use something else than a desktop wallet with the private keys in your own hand.
Better would be a complete offline storaged paperwallet and only a small amount for daily use in the deaktop wallet.
That would mean maximum safety. (Don't forget things like very strong passwords etc...).

MEW (myetherwallet) can be downloaded and run completely locally. It's just as safe especially if used this way.  Several of you should stop spreading FUD when you haven't done the work to understand these technologies first.

IMO there is no perfect or better way - it is always a trade-off.

Generating your private key online is not wise. myetherwallet is a complete client side key generator (you can test it with dev tools-->network and make sure that not a single bit is sent from the browser during the key generation). You can indeed download the source code from the official website and do that completely offline like suggested earlier.

Desktop wallets - the problem, or the vulnerability, is when you generate the wallet and password or when signing a transaction online - if your PC is compromised (most times you won't be aware it is) you may lose your wallet balance.
Another risk with desktop wallets is forgetting your password or losing the keystore file. Yes, backups can and should be made, but each backup increases the chance that it will be stolen (again - trade-off).
In any case, DO NOT store your backup file anywhere online - you may be a subject to brute force without even knowing that. In that case it is only a matter of time until your password will be cracked.
Personally my problem with desktop wallets is that there is no 2FA.
You can generate your "wallet" offline on clean PC and sign the spend transactions offline - this should be as secured as you can get in case you remember your password and your keystore file was not stolen.

Offline/paper storage - the most secure way to store your tokens. The downsides are physical damage or lost (especially if it is planned for long store) and theft. Usually used for long-term storage.

Last and not least: Keep your tokens on Iconomi platform. The advantage is that you are getting good security (offline multi-sig cold storage) with relatively easy but still secured way to spend the funds (login credentials, 2FA and email verification).
The trade-off - technically speaking, you don't have control over your own funds. This is where TRUST plays major role. So far (looking back ~4 years), Iconomi team had given us zero reasons not to trust them.
Personal advice for all people out there that don't feel comfortable with wallets, offline generators, keystores, etc - make a strong, long (minimum 16 unique characters, no words or qwerty-based phrase), and unique password for Iconomi platform login and keep your precious tokens on Iconomi platform. If you chose that option, make sure that your email and Iconomi passwords have nothing in common and are not used anywhere else.

Remember: If you screw something with your own wallet - you may lose your tokens forever! Add that to the trade-off calculation before deciding.


Some of the things were written here before, it is not all out of my head, but more like a summary.
Hope it helps
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October 20, 2016, 07:09:07 AM
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the symbol for the test token is ICN?
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October 20, 2016, 07:15:56 AM
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the symbol for the test token is ICN?
when you insert the contract address that shows up automatically... but it's t-ICN

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October 20, 2016, 07:16:31 AM
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Who wants to have some test icn?  trying to test send it  Grin
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October 20, 2016, 07:29:21 AM
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there's why we cannot tx them yet...
https://i.imgur.com/a0S1JLw.png


How can I get these infos in Mist? Can't find a "read contract information" option.
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October 20, 2016, 07:31:49 AM
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Who wants to have some test icn?  trying to test send it  Grin
Okay, lets try it!

MY ETH Wallet 0xA6979A2d452beaE034640d641b8E8b5f01343A42

Hopes it will success. Hahaha I will notify you once is received it. Cheers!

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October 20, 2016, 07:33:01 AM
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Small summary of important infos, for those tl;dr out there:

1. All investments in ICONOMI are safe, say fund managers, your investments didn't failed or get lost.
2. Ethereum network is still under attack, this creates problems to miners and slows down synchronization of wallets (block chain). Creators of network (not connected to ICONOMI) are working hard to prevent attacks, this is why some important changes were introduced in last month. Process is still active.
3. Consequently, ICN tokens are not yet issued, if the Ethereum Network will be stable, it will happen on 25th October
4. Testing t-ICN tokens were issued, for those who are to anxious to check if everything works fine.
5. For well-informed only: You don't need to, but you can prepare your own Ethereum Wallet and Address to redirect issued ICN tokens there. You should get your ethereum desktop wallet (address), get some experience with handling (try to backup and restore your account, buy some small amount of Ethereum on some exchange and transfer it to your account and back...). Only then you redirect issuing address on ico.iconomi.net

Cheers!


Iconomi has 3508 investors and just  5 trolss (0,1%) has problem with safe issue of ICN.
Iconomi dev pley on long run. This can be noticed everywhere.
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October 20, 2016, 07:34:04 AM
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Who wants to have some test icn?  trying to test send it  Grin
Okay, lets try it!

MY ETH Wallet 0xA6979A2d452beaE034640d641b8E8b5f01343A42

Hopes it will success. Hahaha I will notify you once is received it. Cheers!



Transaction sent!  
https://etherscan.io/address/0xb1c91d5c302a73c1047b0ce676dabd055ac3c684
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October 20, 2016, 07:47:46 AM
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How can I get these infos in Mist? Can't find a "read contract information" option.
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October 20, 2016, 08:11:26 AM
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Guys please refrain from posting and discussing things as if you are the experts or a team member, this just is not a good public relation strategy.

I asked @ICONOMI to provide forum usernames of #Iconomi team members long time ago but nothing so far.

A little odd that a big team with a dozen members only one officially introduced, so is that mean other members has no participation in this thread? if yes then what a role models or such supporters and if no meaning they have participated in this thread but without letting the public know their usernames which again is a bad thing imo.

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October 20, 2016, 08:47:30 AM
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Guys please refrain from posting and discussing things as if you are the experts or a team member, this just is not a good public relation strategy.

I asked @ICONOMI to provide forum usernames of #Iconomi team members long time ago but nothing so far.

A little odd that a big team with a dozen members only one officially introduced, so is that mean other members has no participation in this thread? if yes then what a role models or such supporters and if no meaning they have participated in this thread but without letting the public know their usernames which again is a bad thing imo.

Main problem is still with Ethereum  network if they have allready announced some instructions all investor will try to test or make a transactions.
At the current network  everybody will have problems and than it is difficult to comunicate  and help 3.500 investors.
When network will be cleaned it will be less stressfull for everyone.
The most important is that they are developing the product. Developing the product is at the moment no connected to Ethereum  network problems.
The bad thing is that we cant sell ICN writh now.
The good thing is that when launch will be done the product will be much more developed and this would be the reason for better ICN price on exchange
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October 20, 2016, 08:57:30 AM
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wait it until 25 october and we will knowing whats iconomi plan
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October 20, 2016, 09:05:44 AM
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Who wants to have some test icn?  trying to test send it  Grin

Please send some test ICN here:
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