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401  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why do we really need Bitcoin? on: January 13, 2018, 02:49:58 PM
We don't really need BTC. I hate when I see people trying to convince others to sell everything they have to buy BTC, it's disgusting. Bitcoin is a lottery, you shouldn't use the money you need to pay your bills and buy food to bet in the lottery right? Bitcoin is kinda the same thing. People should invest money that in case they lost it wouldn't be a big deal you know? It's a long-term investment, however, it's a bet. You can win a lot or you can lose a lot too. Are you brave enough to deal with this risk?


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it's also true ... if we sell our goods or debt debt to be bought bitcon is not bener ...
about the risk of profit or loss must be the name of the business people are sometimes sweet sometimes also pait.

402  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Bagaimana kejelasan tentang MUI malang yang mengharamkan BITCOIN ? on: January 12, 2018, 11:58:25 PM
MUI malang menyebut bahwa transaksi bitcoin haram dan tidak diakui oleh pemerintah indonesia. Ketua komisi fatwa MUI kota malang melihat bitcoin dihasilkan dari sebuah alat yang menghasilkan uang secara otomatis, sehingga sudah jelas unsur haramnya. Karena koin yang didapat tidak mempunyai bentuk yang jelas dan hanya tersimpan di sebuah dompet virtual ( e-wallet ). Sementara uang di rekening dalam bentuk deposito juga masih bisa berbunga dan masih diperbolehkan meski menjurus kepada praktek riba. Karena iya menganggap uang yang berada dalam rekening berbeda, selain itu keberadaannya juga di akui negara.
Mohon pendapat agan-agan lebih dalam lagi.


Sumber : https://edukasibitcoin.com/mui-malang-haramkan-bitcoin/
Intinya kalo mau berfatwa hendaknya  cari dulu gimana cara kerjanya bitcoin dan peraturanya yang tertera pada bitcoin.
Harusnya dia sebelum berfatwa hadirkan dulu para ahli pakar bitcoin minimal  orang yang sudah mahir di dunia bitcoin.  
Kalo alasanya seperti itu saya gak setuju kayakya gak tepat. Kalo begitu pls juga gak sah dong kan gak ada wujudnya cuma ada angkaya doang kok halal hukumya.
kalo tidak di akui pemerintah itu gak bisa di jadikan dalil untuk hukum agama harus nas Al Qur'an dan Sunnah.
Gak mungkin ada alat yang bisa menghasilkan uang secara otomatis tanpa kita kerja dulu kan kita kerja baru kita dapat gaji dengan gaji yang di transfer ke wallet kita. Seperti kita kerja dan gajinya di transfer ke rekening ATM kita itu kan halal .
Ko berbunga itu kurang tepat. kan coin yang kita simpan di dompet kita jika bertambah itu di sebabkan karena hargaya jenis coin tersebut kebetulan lagi naik . jika hargaya turun coin kita justru akan berkurang . Aepeeti kita yimpen uang dolar atau emas kalo hargaya naik untunglah kita kalo turun rugilah kita. kalo riba itu kan uang utau coin kita bertambah terus.gak mungkin berkurang ..
403  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should I invest in Bitcoin? on: January 12, 2018, 04:03:56 PM
if I personally have to invest in bitcoin. the name of modern times is more sophisticated cook we want to be out of date. we must use digital tools for our investment affairs both in the world or in the digital world yata.tentuya must comply with the rules of existing rules
404  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is an asset or currency. on: January 12, 2018, 06:03:27 AM
I hear from many sources that btc is used for trading much more than it is for goods and services; doesn't that make it an asset ??
and is that necessarily a bad thing ?? and what can we do about it as a community ??
begul gan bitcoin we can make a business asset or we can also make the currency like our country's currency currency is the rupiah.
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if bitcoin in legalkan in Indonesia I want to sell pls HP tau electric bayarya wear bitcoin
405  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: apa rencana anda semua di 2018 dengan bitcoin yang anda punya? on: January 11, 2018, 10:55:21 PM
Kalau rencna semua member pasti ada gan kalau saya sendiri dengan bitcoin yang saya punya di tahun 2018 ini akan saya investasikan dan saya tradingkan gan biar bisa menambah profit.tapi tidak semua member bisa berpenghasilan sama semua,yang pasti rencana ingin majukan lagi bitcoin pasti ada gan
Kalo saya di tahun 2018 rencana dengan bitcoin yang saya punya. Untuk tambah  modal trading saya. Dan renovasi rumah karena rumah saya udah lumayan rusaknya ..
406  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Cryptocurrency Of Your Choice ! on: January 11, 2018, 09:57:11 PM
I can say that since I know cryiptocurrency or digital money. the economy of my life has become a little better. since then I will not leave cryiptocurrency and will continue to invest in it ..
407  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Saving Bitcoins for your Children. on: January 11, 2018, 05:34:20 AM
right we must have savings for the future of our children. but his name is a working person for sure for the future of his son ..
I personally already prepared a little coin to keep watch my child lahiran .
408  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: what are the benefits of bitcoin? on: January 09, 2018, 02:41:40 PM
benefits very much.
provide good jobs without us getting out of the house.
can reduce the poverty rate.
allowing the poor to become millionaires.
with adaya bitcoin dream of a person who is not poor can be a reality .
409  Economy / Speculation / Re: will bitcoin rise up to 1M? on: January 09, 2018, 10:51:51 AM
i think bitcoin will rise again,up to 1M in december hahaha,because last year bitcoin rised to 1M in december.
I think that it may possible since it has already rise in that unexpected price.so how come that it may increase too like the other time. I wish it would be come true. Im claiming it because it was a good opportunity to start up in our life.
maybe gan what is not possible in this World with time series or at a time bitcoin yampe 1M.
we'll see in 2017 in December bitcoin price of less 100 million Hinga nearly 300juta is the distance of one month.
although bitcoin not yampe 1M in 2018 not an important issue bitcoin prices always go up That's good for people who invest in bitcoin world
410  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: will people lose intrest? on: January 08, 2018, 10:50:12 PM
if losing interest in bitcoin is not possible. just by the time bitcoin is very much in the admiration and many of us who do not know so kepengen tau and learn bitcoin .. this proof if bitcoin more and more demanding peminatnya ... this is happening in the circlecommunity in my area.how in kalo agan area is the same ?? ..
411  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin saved my year on: January 07, 2018, 02:14:12 PM
I started 2017 broke and with a very low wage. My girlfriend also broke up with me in the beginning of the year.
Although I had committed some trade mistakes I was able to get 400% gains, thanks to btc.  This gave me hope and made my year a lot better.
I wonder how many people bitcoin "saved" this year, even preventing some suicides maybe.
that is the advantages of bitcoin digital world. i personally after know bitcoin in Th 2017 my life changed to dratis especially in December because bitcoin price always go up which make us become addicted .. so it feels kepengen invest all my money in bitcoin .
412  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why people sell bitcoins? on: January 06, 2018, 09:47:10 PM
the name needs not in check let alone the needs of every day. want to be sure we will sell the bitcoin we have. want the price again up or down not care .. unless we have other money.
but the average of us sell bitcoin at the time the price again rose high .
413  Economy / Speculation / Re: In 2018 BTC will hit 1 trillion ? on: January 05, 2018, 10:45:46 PM
Total crypto marketcap is about to hit 1 trillion 2018 is going to be a big year !
What do you think ?

I absolutely believe that it will reach 1 trillion. I do think by Dec 2018 the year has potential to be even be better than 2017. Yes we will have lots of setback on our journey to the moon.
: CryptoMark2585 on Today at 10:11:53 AM
Total crypto marketcap is about to hit 1 trillion 2018 is going to be a big year !
What do you think ?

I absolutely believe that it will reach 1 trillion. I do think by Dec 2018 the year has potential to be even be better than 2017. Yes we will have lots of setback on our journey to the moon.
414  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin is not gambling on: January 05, 2018, 07:35:10 AM
I don't know why people say bitcoin is gambling. Its not gambling. You are investing your money and time. You use your internet. So its not gambling dealing with it.
really because we in there is a sale and purchase transactions if we participate in trading. and in it also exchange btc with rupiah. like we have gold or dollar then we exchange with rupiah.
we also work post if we signature itukan take time and thoughts then we are in the salary according to our work.
if I think halal does not contain gambling at all .
415  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Btc good experience for young people on: January 05, 2018, 03:30:44 AM
may be said btc newcomers who make the world so rowdy. because of its high exchange rate. means btc give homework to the managers of the World Bank. there are already joined and some are still exploring btc .
416  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Does Social Media Influence bitcoin growth? on: January 04, 2018, 11:46:35 PM
social media is very influential because social media is the fastest way to spread something or advertise the most quickly. With the social media bitcoin can be recognized by the world ..
417  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: is it risky to turn all my money to bitcoins? on: January 04, 2018, 06:51:27 PM
is it risky to turn all my money to bitcoins? anyhow this money sits in the bank and do nothing for!
better if I think some of the money spent in bitcoin and partly to keep intact money .. for economic needs every day and keep watch if bitcoin price down so we do not have to sell our coin .
418  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do Banks fear cryptocurrency on: January 03, 2018, 10:52:09 AM
Yesterday the Central Bank of Albania issued a warning about the uncertain and unsafe nature  of cryptocurrencies
They called on people not to get involved. Should we be afraid or the banks are!
everything must have a positive and negative impact. probably the managers of the Quarrying State Bank with bitcoin whose price is stable and the exchange rate is high.
precisely if the Bank managers can find solutions this way will bring a positive impact for both countries or communities such as those in Korea and Japan
419  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Am i late to buy Am i late to buy bitcoin now ?? now ?? on: January 02, 2018, 01:35:57 PM
in saying too late can also. because bitcoin usually rises at the end of each year. I also know if at the beginning of the month the price is much higher in comparison with the end of the year ....
420  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What impresses you the most about Bitcoin? on: January 01, 2018, 04:32:18 PM
I know a lot of people have different reason why the love and embrace bitcoin.
For me the decentralized nature of bitcoin and the thought of being able to send coins to anybody in any part of the word, no third party, no regulation(specific amount), no bullshit is mind blowing.

The value of the bitcoin really impresses me. The reason why I use bitcoin because I saw that the bitcoin is so valuable today. I think that it is better to have bitcoins today for us to have a great future.
I am also amazed by the bitcoin in addition to its always high value in comparison with paper money. who so my mind who created bitcoin then the results are recognized by the world community. although there are certain countries that ban it.
and the last is now a lot of Indonesian people like to save coin than to save gold or silver tau ..
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