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401  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ICO][ANN] 🔵LAToken - Asset tokenisation & trading platform🔵 on: September 22, 2017, 02:11:59 PM
How will the ban of all ICO in China affect the market of cryptocurrency?
It's already affecting it. China has huge population and if 1% of that population get in to crypto, it will increase the overall capitalization and steer development. Adoption will also be faster since crypto is more about people's freedom from centralized system.
You have not understood a question i think. Monsterdoge asked "HOW will it affect", not "will the ban affect". Smiley
402  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ICO][ANN] 🔵LAToken - Asset tokenisation & trading platform🔵 on: September 22, 2017, 01:55:21 PM
How will the ban of all ICO in China affect the market of cryptocurrency?
In the long term or near term?
403  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ICO][ANN] 🔵LAToken - Asset tokenisation & trading platform🔵 on: September 22, 2017, 01:53:42 PM
Future is now!  Cool

"A couple of weeks ago it was revealed that a partnership between The Knox Group, BitPay and a British baroness will offer up luxury Dubai apartments in exchange for Bitcoins in a deal worth $330 mln.

Small-scale Bitcoin-for-property transactions have been done before. A London property company is offering to accept down payments in Bitcoin, and a Miami based investor has been looking to sell his $6.5 mln mansion for Bitcoin, but not of this magnitude.

And just yesterday the first house purchase in Bitcoin was reported in Texas."

https://cointelegraph.com/news/blockchain-laying-foundations-for-real-estate-market-experts
Good sign. For LAToken and us especially. Smiley
404  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ICO][ANN] 🔵LAToken - Asset tokenisation & trading platform🔵 on: September 22, 2017, 12:32:27 PM
All origination expenses the asset owner has to pay in fiats. The exact amount of fees will depend on the asset class and smart contract details.
I did't get something right. I thought that all the costs would be exclusively in LAT.
It will definitely be, but not in the very near future. LAToken must show the success of their LAT as a means of payment to the general public, not just to crypto-currency fans, like us. I think it will be in three to five years maybe.
405  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ICO][ANN] 🔵LAToken - Asset tokenisation & trading platform🔵 on: September 22, 2017, 11:48:33 AM
This is great timing to take risk on this project I hope this will go to the moon.
"To the moon" - I personally do not like these words. Smells like hype. "Fast steady growth" is better for me. Smiley
Bro, now the price for 1 LAT - 0.0013 ETH - 0.37 usd. Latoken promises to 2025 possible growth to 5 trillion $ capitalization. (proof
https://blog.latoken.com/lat-research-the-exponential-growth-of-crypto-markets-to-5-trillion-416c73429148) You can imagine how much 1 LAT will cost  then? It's not "fast steady growth" it's rocket jump to Jupiter. Grin
I think that scenario too optimistic. I prefer not to overstate expectations, sometimes i deliberately underestimate them. Pleasant surprises are much better than bitter disappointments. Wink
Even if only half of the scenario come true, it will be amazing
I think it's better to use a logarithmic scale here.
406  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ICO][ANN] 🔵LAToken - Asset tokenisation & trading platform🔵 on: September 21, 2017, 11:12:09 PM
This is great timing to take risk on this project I hope this will go to the moon.
"To the moon" - I personally do not like these words. Smells like hype. "Fast steady growth" is better for me. Smiley
Bro, now the price for 1 LAT - 0.0013 ETH - 0.37 usd. Latoken promises to 2025 possible growth to 5 trillion $ capitalization. (proof
https://blog.latoken.com/lat-research-the-exponential-growth-of-crypto-markets-to-5-trillion-416c73429148) You can imagine how much 1 LAT will cost  then? It's not "fast steady growth" it's rocket jump to Jupiter. Grin
I think that scenario too optimistic. I prefer not to overstate expectations, sometimes i deliberately underestimate them. Pleasant surprises are much better than bitter disappointments. Wink
407  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ICO][ANN] 🔵LAToken - Asset tokenisation & trading platform🔵 on: September 21, 2017, 09:15:36 PM
So, tokens total supply - 1 bil. And more will not be released. It turns out, i can't mine LAT?
Yes, you can't mine LAT, but you can buy. As far as I know, now they sell only 200mil tokens
200 mil for sale. What about the rest 800 mil?
Even less than 200.
How much less?
I personally think that it will be about 55-60M.
408  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ICO][ANN] 🔵LAToken - Asset tokenisation & trading platform🔵 on: September 21, 2017, 09:12:41 PM
So it's decentralized, but at the same time quite centralized? Bye my ETH...
Nobody have ever said anything about complete decentralization. The purpose of the project is quite different from being decentralized financial pyramid.
The main purpose of crypto is decentralization.
I always thought that main purpose of crypto is anonymity. Cool
And I thought that the main idea of a cryptocurrency is a decentralized market. Why do you need anonymity, bro?
I just do not like attention from any strangers. Nothing illegal or immoral. Just a small fad.
409  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ICO][ANN] 🔵LAToken - Asset tokenisation & trading platform🔵 on: September 21, 2017, 09:09:18 PM
So it's decentralized, but at the same time quite centralized? Bye my ETH...
Nobody have ever said anything about complete decentralization. The purpose of the project is quite different from being decentralized financial pyramid.
The main purpose of crypto is decentralization.
I always thought that anonymity. Cool
You can be anonymous in huge amount of ways, but even on 4chan you are on the m00t's server.
In Soviet Russia internet has access to you, dear /ko/mrad. Grin
410  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ICO][ANN] 🔵LAToken - Asset tokenisation & trading platform🔵 on: September 21, 2017, 09:05:05 PM
So, tokens total supply - 1 bil. And more will not be released. It turns out, i can't mine LAT?
How do you imagine mining if the tokens are dealt with by trustees?
Oh, is it transparency? Grin
By the way, about anonymity and transparency. We can see practically only the CEO. If there were more webinars and photo galleries of the ICO workflow process, it would be attracted a meaningful number of small investors additionally.
411  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ICO][ANN] 🔵LAToken - Asset tokenisation & trading platform🔵 on: September 21, 2017, 08:47:45 PM
So it's decentralized, but at the same time quite centralized? Bye my ETH...
Nobody have ever said anything about complete decentralization. The purpose of the project is quite different from being decentralized financial pyramid.
The main purpose of crypto is decentralization.
I always thought that main purpose of crypto is anonymity. Cool
412  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ICO][ANN] 🔵LAToken - Asset tokenisation & trading platform🔵 on: September 21, 2017, 08:42:28 PM
I has a question about LABT/GOLD contract. Let's say, i buy LATG for 1000 LAT. I get LABT/Gold 1000 LAT contract? The gold real price gain 5% and LAT/ETH gain 10%. When I sell my LABT contract. Do it get back 1000 LAT only or adjusted value or the market price (by LAToken traders)?
It is more habitually to use Apple like example for me, but it suits your "gold" question too.
When you invest LAT into shares you get special token (for example LATAPPL - LAT + Name of the company you invest into). Let's look at the example:
1. You buy 1 LATAPPL for 100 LAT and buy exactly 1 LATAPPL.
2. Apple shares get +10% in 1 month as you say and you decide to sell you 1 LATAPPL.
3. In this case you receive 100 LAT you invested before + 10% benefit. Total: 110 LAT.
It's just not clear for me yet. If i buy 100 000 LAT GOLD, i own the value or 2 Oz of it?
2 Oz.
413  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ICO][ANN] 🔵LAToken - Asset tokenisation & trading platform🔵 on: September 21, 2017, 04:21:03 PM
I hope you understand that there're now 100% strategies when we talk about investments. But you can double your LAT (for example) and if LAT itselfs also doubles in price you get x4 profit. (if you sell your LAT after you close the deal) Smiley
So there are no sense for LABT, you can just sell asets for LAT! LABT makes sense only if it's not staying the same price for one LAT!
It's quite impossible when real estate becomes 2 times more expensive.
414  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ICO][ANN] 🔵LAToken - Asset tokenisation & trading platform🔵 on: September 21, 2017, 04:14:40 PM
I hope you understand that there're now 100% strategies when we talk about investments. But you can double your LAT (for example) and if LAT itselfs also doubles in price you get x4 profit. (if you sell your LAT after you close the deal) Smiley
415  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ICO][ANN] 🔵LAToken - Asset tokenisation & trading platform🔵 on: September 21, 2017, 04:09:12 PM
So If I understand this correctly, say if somebody own an appartment, he or she can tokenise the appartment thereby giving fractional ownership of it to other people. But no fractional owner would be able to have full claim to the property so original owner would still be able to live in it?
Yes, but you asset will be sold on auction if you won't buy it back on the settlement date.
As I understand, i am a winner if my apartment price goes down?
Well you're exposed to the price of LAT, right? So if your appartment price goes down and LAT price goes up, you're double f...ked, if everything is the opposite, you are double win.
As I understand no, because it will be LATHOME token what i actually own! And it can go up or down only if home price will go up or down!
Exactly.
That means if walrus's home price stays the same but LAT price will go up after he sell his fraction he can get less LAT than before?
Example: you tokenize your house and sell it for 10 unique tokens (LABT, 10 is only for easy calculating).
Each LABT costs 10 LAT.
On the settlement date we realize that house is 2 times more expensive than it was. Asset Owner buys it back and investors receive 20 LAT for every 1 LABT invested.
416  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ICO][ANN] 🔵LAToken - Asset tokenisation & trading platform🔵 on: September 21, 2017, 04:01:27 PM
So If I understand this correctly, say if somebody own an appartment, he or she can tokenise the appartment thereby giving fractional ownership of it to other people. But no fractional owner would be able to have full claim to the property so original owner would still be able to live in it?
Yes, but you asset will be sold on auction if you won't buy it back on the settlement date.
As I understand, i am a winner if my apartment price goes down?
Well you're exposed to the price of LAT, right? So if your appartment price goes down and LAT price goes up, you're double f...ked, if everything is the opposite, you are double win.
As I understand no, because it will be LATHOME token what i actually own! And it can go up or down only if home price will go up or down!
Exactly.
417  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ICO][ANN] 🔵LAToken - Asset tokenisation & trading platform🔵 on: September 21, 2017, 03:31:59 PM
So If I understand this correctly, say if somebody own an appartment, he or she can tokenise the appartment thereby giving fractional ownership of it to other people. But no fractional owner would be able to have full claim to the property so original owner would still be able to live in it?
Yes, but you asset will be sold on auction if you won't buy it back on the settlement date.
But what if I leave myself one room? Or even small part of the room?
Actually i don't know. Is that allowed? Grin
This should strongly depend on local laws. It is possible to really own only a small part of real estate in some countries. But i think, this will be solved by special additions to the local tokenization rules.
418  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ICO][ANN] 🔵LAToken - Asset tokenisation & trading platform🔵 on: September 21, 2017, 03:26:44 PM
So If I understand this correctly, say if somebody own an appartment, he or she can tokenise the appartment thereby giving fractional ownership of it to other people. But no fractional owner would be able to have full claim to the property so original owner would still be able to live in it?
Yes, but you asset will be sold on auction if you won't buy it back on the settlement date.
So its a collateral based loan essentially?
Yes.
419  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ICO][ANN] 🔵LAToken - Asset tokenisation & trading platform🔵 on: September 21, 2017, 02:36:46 PM
Ok, how about the LAT/ETH value? No adjustement?
LAT/ETH doesn't play any role here.
420  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ICO][ANN] 🔵LAToken - Asset tokenisation & trading platform🔵 on: September 21, 2017, 02:28:57 PM
I has a question about LABT/GOLD contract. Let's say, i buy LATG for 1000 LAT. I get LABT/Gold 1000 LAT contract? The gold real price gain 5% and LAT/ETH gain 10%. When I sell my LABT contract. Do it get back 1000 LAT only or adjusted value or the market price (by LAToken traders)?

It is more habitually to use Apple like example for me, but it suits your "gold" question too.
When you invest LAT into shares you get special token (for example LATAPPL - LAT + Name of the company you invest into). Let's look at the example:
1. You buy 1 LATAPPL for 100 LAT and buy exactly 1 LATAPPL.
2. Apple shares get +10% in 1 month as you say and you decide to sell you 1 LATAPPL.
3. In this case you receive 100 LAT you invested before + 10% benefit. Total: 110 LAT.
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