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401  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Bitcointalk Sekarang ada OTP -2FA on: January 17, 2024, 12:52:42 AM
-snip- ... Tapi buat saya saya fitur ini tidak perlu juga karena cukup dengan email dan kalaupun saya pasang contoh kasus hape mati bisa recovery lewat email mungkin. Karena pada pemakaian pun kadang saya sering pake lewat hape juga buat postingan. Yang penting emailnya akun jangan dipakai buat yang lain cukup buat akun forum aja, jadi aman. 
Saya menganggap tingkat keamanan yang lebih pada akun bitcointalk sangat penting implementasinya gan. 2FA pada akun bitcointalk diakui sangat penting oleh mayoritas bitcoiner forum dengan pengetahuan yang lebih mumpuni dibandingkan agan dan saya.
Menyamakan kegunaan 2FA pada exchage dengan 2FA pada akun bitcointalk rasanya beda menurut saya.

Melakukan recovery lewat email bisa tapi peduli apa pihak exchange dengan keamaan akun pengguna.
Keamanan terletak pada kita masing-masing sih dalam menjaganya, tapi tidak boleh disepelekan juga termasuk keamanan akun bitcointalk.
402  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: January 16, 2024, 06:55:55 PM
All parties at Barcelona should apologize to the supporters, especially since this season they failed to win the Spanish Super Cup. Their performance was good in that match where Barcelona managed to fire 7 shots on goal, and Barcelona also had a high percentage of ball possession compared to Real Madrid. Barcelona only failed to take advantage of their many goal opportunities in that match, they were also disadvantaged because the referee sent off Araujo with a red card.

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These words are interesting and supporters must understand what Barcelona means by why they have to apologize to them.
I have two sides in assessing the meaning of the words Barcelona must apologize to their fans.
On the positive side, if Barcelona apologizes to their supporters all over the world, then Barcelona admits that their performance is not good and must be understood.
On the negative side, if this apology is made, then the entire Barcelona team is doing things they shouldn't be doing.

I think Barcelona fans really understand the condition of their favorite team with the assumption that Barcelona is not always on the winning path, so they have to accept whatever conditions happen to Barcelona.
403  Economy / Gambling / Re: Rollbit.com | Crypto's Most Rewarding Casino 👑 on: January 16, 2024, 06:15:04 PM
Mohamed Salah is always one of most important players of Liverpool recent seasons. Wataru Endo is a big surprise in this season because he began as a substitution player but gradually he took over a main position in Liverpool squad last two months. He has become an important piece of the squad and without two important players, together with Arnold, will cause some big problems for Liverpool.
Jurgen Klopp is a genius at seeing the potential of players who will be recruited to become Liverpool players. Klopp is smart in seeing the team's needs in every line in every condition experienced by the club. Wataru Endo will be a player who will have great success with Liverpool like Robertson and Arnold to Mohamed Salah.
Wataru Endo's role has been able to make the Anfield public forget about Thiago because Thiago's role in Liverpool's midfield has been replaced by him in a short time since joining Liverpool.

Those players will not miss this coming match but some more matches if their national teams go far in African and Asian Cups.
Finally, Endo was the main player in Liverpool's squad when they won against Newcastle at Anfield and in the next match, Endo had to carry out international duties to strengthen Japan.
When Liverpool players like Mohamed Salah and Endo get international duty, their positions are filled well by replacements like Elliot and Darwin Nunez. Liverpool managed to win in the FA and EFL.

YNWA
404  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I succeed as a trader in 2024 on: January 16, 2024, 05:53:57 PM
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Of course theory and practice are two different things. You will never be 100% able to apply a theory-based strategy to active trading, and you may even have to adjust it when something doesn't happen as expected. Trading is an activity with a high risk of losing money, but as long as you don't sell it at a low price then you can probably still hope not to make a loss when you sell it later.
In practice it is difficult because many indicators and strategies need to be adjusted when market conditions change.
Holding back by not choosing to sell when the price is below the purchase price or perhaps the profit is still very small from the purchase price, may still be possible in this type of spot trading. If it takes a long time to hold on the exchange for those who use it because it is not yet profitable, they will risk losing assets when the exchange experiences problems.

Investing is easier, but perhaps it's only easy to say if one doesn't know how. You should never buy at the peak of an increase, it will only make you miss more opportunities to buy at lower prices. Investment requires strategy, as does trading, but short-term trading risks are certainly more difficult to avoid than long-term investments.
The practice of investing is much easier than trading. Just study and learn in detail about the basics such as how to save, when to buy after knowing what Bitcoin is and where it differs from altcoins. For beginners, I don't even recommend trading, but investing.
405  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [Diskusi] Prediksi Harga Bitcoin on: January 16, 2024, 01:55:13 AM
saya tidak terlalu optimis bahwa harga bitcoin akan menembus $100k dalam tahun ini melihat bagaimana perkembangan dari pasar bitcoin yang tidak begitu terlalu signifikan dalam beberapa waktu belakang. bahkan berita mengenai persetujuan bitcoin etf yang dipercaya bisa mendorong bitcoin lebih jauh, justru malah berbalik harga bitcoin turun beberapa % dalam 7 hari belakang. sehingga saya memprediksi bahwa harga bitcoin tidak bisa menembus 100k dalam tahun ini, tapi kalau untuk menembus $50k saya cukup optimis bahwa harga biitcoin bisa menempus titik tersebut dalam tahun ini.
Perusahan besar yang masuk daftar disetujuinya ETF sedang berusaha untuk mendapatkan banyak Bitcoin. Kalau di googling, salah satu perusahaan dari jumlah perusahaan yang disetujui ETF oleh SEC sedang menargetkan harga beli Bitcoin yang murah. Kita harus pandai juga dalam memanfaatkan situasi ini dengan baik sesuai kemampuan.
Jangan jadi orang yang memberikan Bitcoin kepada perusahan besar untuk mereka beli dengan menjual karena akan menyesal ketika harga Bitcoin mencapai yang tertinggi.

$50k, coba deh lihat grafik pergerakan harga Bitcoin dalam hitungan 14d, $50k hanya sedikit lagi hampir dicapai sebelum harganya berada di $42k.
$50k harga yang sangat mungkin tercapai dalam hitungan bulan.
406  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: January 15, 2024, 09:15:58 PM
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The Barcelona squad looked weak in yesterday's El Clasico match, because Raphinha and Joao Cancelo, who have better aggressive power, had to suffer injuries ahead of the final match. Barcelona's midfield is weak, as is their defense. Meanwhile Real Madrid have many options and they have spent a lot of money in the transfer market to win the title they didn't win last season.
It would be a different story if in 90 minutes the result was a draw and many different analyzes would emerge too. Barcelona really couldn't do much when Vinicus Jr, who was too quick, put Real Madrid ahead when the game was less than 10 minutes into the game.
Barcelona's game is easy for Real Madrid players to read, so it's natural to say that Xavi deserves to feel guilty for Barcelona's defeat.
Xavi has a big task to evaluate Barcelona's game because the defeat that Barcelona received in the final match was unexpected (score).
407  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: cashout or wait till the end? on: January 15, 2024, 08:44:45 PM
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cashing out or waiting till the end of game which is more better?
I won't wait until it's all gone. If the balance in my casino account is that amount, I will withdraw up to 80% or even 90% of the balance and I will party for a week.
If I win at a casino with that amount of winnings, I'm afraid my account won't last long.
The cashout amount is not guaranteed to win if we bet 3,158.67 and my guess is that it is similar to a parlay bet with a large number of match choices.
408  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We dont own enough bitcoin on: January 15, 2024, 07:25:03 PM
Trying to balance Bitcoin, real estate and gold investments is fraught with challenges. If I can still try to keep Bitcoin regular with DCA, I also do gold based on financial conditions. Trying to add to real estate is still out of my reach.
One of the issues is a dilemma of whether to re-balance your portfolio, or just put a specified amount on a regular basis and just let it be. Re-balancing is probably a sensible option, you aim for your crypto-holdings to be no more than 20% of your portfolio, so if BTC shoots up and becomes more than that 20%, you sell the excess to put in other assets. But than many would ask themselves why sell their best-performing asset in favour of anything else.
As for real estate, just as with BTC, you don't have to buy a whole house or whole bitcoin. You could purchase property jointly with other people or just invest in REITs.
So true. Real estate does not require you to buy it all but you can do it together with other people who have plans to buy it or plan to invest in it.
For me, I currently need a house that I don't fully have yet because I still have to pay it off. Other real estate assets are not yet on my list of must-haves even though I admit I want them, but not right now.
I try to provide a balance in the types of investments between home, gold and Bitcoin.

Bitcoin and gold are types of investments that I try to share in different percentages. The percentage on Bitcoin is a bit bigger but not too much different from gold because gold is still very valuable for other people which I can use as collateral to get something I want, including when I want to pay off the entire mortgage fee.
Bitcoin remains an asset I probably won't touch because Bitcoin's returns are very different to gold.
409  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I succeed as a trader in 2024 on: January 15, 2024, 07:10:27 PM
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That is a difficult thing, if you start of course in trading will definitely experience losses and there are still many factors from the cause of the loss, then the success of trading feels a little more difficult but I believe there are people capable of doing that.

Trading requires a strong mentality while investing long-term I call it has little risk especially in bitcoin as long as he does not sell they will not lose, while choosing a coin on a trend then he might get into FOMO.
Because we still don't have experience in doing it even though we have studied it in theory. Theory and practice are two sides that will get different results.
In theory we learn techniques so we don't lose, but when we practice it unexpectedly, everything we learn can still result in losses.
This is what makes it difficult to achieve success starting with trading.

Investing in Bitcoin is not as difficult as trading practice. As an initial stage, you need to know the basics of Bitcoin, which involves learning what Bitcoin is, how Bitcoin works, how to buy, how to save and when is the right time to buy.
410  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ on: January 13, 2024, 10:47:59 AM
The Premier League is finally back with the second part of the season.  Smiley  What do you think about the Newcastle v Manchester City and Manchester United v Tottenham matches?
Newcastle's chances are smaller than Manchester City's chances of winning.
The most likely option, in my opinion, is that this match will end in a draw because Newcastle and Manchester City are experiencing several deficiencies, including several of their core players.
Manchester City are a little better because their attacking midfielder, Kevin de Bruyne, is back, although their top scorer, Haaland, is still doubtful to play.

Manchester United may continue the bad trend. Doubtful if betting on Manchester United winning.
Tottenham also lost Son, who played for the national team in the Asian Cup.
411  Economy / Gambling / Re: Sports betting arbitrage on: January 13, 2024, 10:26:39 AM
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Sometimes parlay is good compared to straight bets since it boos the odds significantly while you can have the cashout feature in case most of your bets resulted to win while you are already satisfied on your current cashout profit. You can have more profit on parlays than straight bet with same result but of course this involves more risk though.
Not for me. Parlays can have more risk of failure because players target higher odds with many match options.
Single bets are better than parlays even though the odds offered are smaller but the chance of winning is greater.
If the parlay only has less than 5 match options, the chance of winning is greater, although you don't necessarily win 100% or get paid in full.

I’m not a frequent sports bettor but I always do 2 match parlay instead of single bets using small amount to have a boost on my odds given that I’m confident on my bet result.
A good choice if you do 2 games on a parlay. But single bets aren't bad if you do either.
412  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I succeed as a trader in 2024 on: January 12, 2024, 04:46:32 PM
As we enter the 2024, many people are making plans on how to achieve financial success and personally I have decided that trading will be one of my area of focus. I'm gathering information on how to go about it. Your opinion will be highly appreciated.
Choosing financial success with trading is not easy because trading requires many things to pay attention to when doing it.
You can trade, but long term or I call it investment. Buy and hold until a certain time limit. Is it for a year or more or when the selling price has reached a large profit.
Be careful when choosing coins. Avoid coins that follow trends.
413  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We dont own enough bitcoin on: January 12, 2024, 04:03:41 PM
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I agree with you, not everyone considers BTC as an asset that they can invest in even though they have learned about how to invest with Bitcoin because they are still unsure about investing in Bitcoin.
What you have done is very good by balancing investments in Bitcoin, real assets and gold, of course you will be able to enjoy the benefits of the three investments you make.
Doubts about investing in Bitcoin can be due to many reasons. One of them may be that they don't know the benefits of investing in Bitcoin. Maybe they are also afraid because market prices are uncertain at any time.

Balancing the three in investing is great because all three types of investment have the same goal rather than making other investments or saving money in the bank.
Trying to balance Bitcoin, real estate and gold investments is fraught with challenges. If I can still try to keep Bitcoin regular with DCA, I also do gold based on financial conditions. Trying to add to real estate is still out of my reach.
414  Economy / Gambling / Re: Sports betting arbitrage on: January 12, 2024, 03:26:06 PM
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Nice to see someone actually running away from parlay bets because here that am actually staying this type of bet is all that the gamblers know how to bet because they tend to bet with the optimism that they are going get a miraculous win from their parlay bet of sometimes 20 to 30 selection. I don't know how accurate arbitrage betting is with soccer but I know my who does this type of bet uses alot of funds and also have multiple betting account for this .
Have been running away from parlay betting for a long time. Parlay is not an optimistic type of bet but a bet that often fails. In 10 choices, 9 wins and 1 loses so the result is 0.

If there are 10 choices, that's still not enough, but if there are 20 to 30 choices in one betting list, it is no longer optimistic but lustful with the multiplication of odds.
Expecting to get rich because of multiplying big odds with a small bet amount but lots of choices is a dream.
Betting on the single bet type is more realistic even though the odds multiplication is small. If you want a lot, place a big bet so that if you win you will be satisfied with the results. Right?
415  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Approval of Bitcoin spot ETFs; a new boat for spammers to jump on. on: January 11, 2024, 04:03:38 PM
Finally we are all at a bright spot after going round in circles on unclear decisions.
The approval of a Bitcoin spot ETF is good news for the Bitcoin community.
Beginners who have just joined who want to know more about Bitcoin spot ETFs do not need to create the same topic because they can follow the discussion in the topics that are already available.

I think, not just for discussing Bitcoin spot ETFs, beginners don't need to open a new topic to join the discussion and look for information about the desired search, but for other topics it's the same. Utilizing the search button is very useful.

This forum is different from news platforms outside the forum. We are unique here. We also have a role in protecting the forum from spammers.
416  Economy / Gambling / Re: Sports betting arbitrage on: January 11, 2024, 03:11:38 PM
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If i understand right, betting arbitrage is not about analysis matches - it is mostly about analysis odds. You don`t need any information about teams. As for me the main problem is to find software, that can automize searching arbitrage situation and betting process. If it will make some kind of bot - you will get stable profit. But the same time you need big deposit for betting.
You are right friend about the Arbitration strategy in betting which does not require any information about any team as can be read here about what Arbitrage is.

I just said above that I only like football betting which I do using my analysis which is a hobby of this type of sport so that it makes it easier for me to match the analysis with the odds available on the betting site. In football betting with my own strategy, always avoid parlay bets. Even if I play parlay, the bets I choose are not many.
In the second paragraph I said maybe the strategy was complicated because I wasn't familiar with it.
417  Economy / Gambling / Re: Sports betting arbitrage on: January 10, 2024, 03:09:27 PM
Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way? what difficulties did you encounter? What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this? Why does it bother them anyway?
Football betting and only rely on analysis and don't be tempted by the size of the odds. Always try to avoid parlay bets that often fail to win because one prediction does not match the result.
If the odds are sufficient to bet on the site I play on, I immediately step on the gas and just wait for the results.

Arbitrage is complicated for me. Maybe because you are used to how to bet on football betting using analysis for each match. This method is still very comfortable for me.
418  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Perkembangan Perdagangan Bitcoin/Cryptocurrency sebagai aset komoditas on: January 10, 2024, 02:40:46 PM
* Updated

Isi dari surat edaran ini adalah mempertegas aturan dan penjelasan yang sebelumnya sudah dikeluarkan :
- SURAT EDARAN NOMOR 203/BAPPEBTI/SE/07/2023 TENTANG PELAKSANAAN PEMROSESAN LAYANAN PERSETUJUAN BURSA BERJANGKA ASET KRIPTO DAN PENDAFTARAN CALON PEDAGANG FISIK ASET KRIPTO

Kemungkinan ada perusahaan-perusahaan lain (selain perusahan yang sudah ditetapkan oleh Bappebti sebagai Bursa Berjangka Aset Kripto, Lembaga Kliring Berjangka dan Pengelola Tempat Penyimpanan
Aset Kripto) yang mempertanyakan status permohonan mereka.
Sebuah langkan dan tindakan bagus dari Bappebti untuk mencegah terjadi penipuan bagi para investor kripto karena regulasi yang ketat seperti Surat Ederan tersebut akan menyulitkan para pihak yang punya niat buruk dalam persoalan menipu yang berkedok perusahaan resmi dan pelaku perdagangan Bitcoin dan cryptocurrency dapat menemukan bursa yang resmi terdaftar secara sah.

Disamping itu, terbitnya surat ederan yang mempertegas tentang pelaksaaan proses layanan persetujuan bursa berjangka tersebut dapat dipelajari dengan baik bagi perusahaan yang akan mendaftarkan diri kepada Bappebti.
-CMIIW- dalam memahami maksud surat ederan tersebut.
419  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin investment on: January 10, 2024, 02:23:56 PM
im very excited to share about one of my friends condition.
he lives in an asian country where bitcoin is not legal to government.
he invested in bitcoin and he owned a second hand motorbike shop.
now he wants to dealing with crypto for his shop.
in this circumstances what should he do or which step best for him.
expect better suggestion from good people
Where in Asia? because I also come from a country on the Asian continent.
It's not legal but can still be used as a commodity asset. In my opinion, he can still carry out activities with Bitcoin and crypto as long as he doesn't use Bitcoin and crypto as a fiat function.

Make sure internet access is available. During that time he could still do it. There are several countries in Asia where the government prohibits Bitcoin and crypto, but Bitcoin and crypto activities can still be carried out by Bitcoin and crypto owners as long as their intention is not for something that is detrimental to themselves and those around them.

Is your story true or not?
420  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: January 10, 2024, 02:10:12 PM
The European league is different from the domestic league. European League teams faced come from other leagues that play outside their domestic league. Villarreal's bad situation in La Liga this season is that they are still ranked below the top 10, they still have a chance to change for the better in the second half so that finishing in the top 10 is still there even though last season they finished in 5th position.
We still don't know who Villarreal will face in the European League in the next round after winning Group F.

They can continue like Sevilla, for me not necessarily because the European League competition will be different from the La Liga competition. Every team playing in the European League will try to go all out.

Two seasons ago, Frankfurt was a very surprising team in the Europa League. They won the Europa League title even though they performed poorly in the Bundesliga. The same thing happened last season, Sevilla won the Europa League title despite a poor performance in La Liga. Maybe this season will be very different because there are many strong teams in the European League who will compete closely since the round of 16.

Atalanta, Villareal, Leverkusen and Liverpool are some of the favorite teams in the round of 16, but several teams such as Milan, Galatasaray and several others are also worthy of being favorites. There are 8 teams that will qualify for the round of 16 from the playoffs, so we are looking forward to that.
I was very interested to hear the name of Frankfurt, which at that time was the team that managed to win the European League with the lowest cost calculation for one team compared to other teams that did not win.
If all the players owned by Frankfurt are calculated by the total market price for each player, then Frankfurt will be the team with the lowest cost.
The 2021/22 season is a historic season for them and for European League fans. Luck and hard work led Frankfurt to win its second European League title.

In a long time, there has only been one event like Frankfurt and this season we will not see it again. This season, teams that are inconsistent in the domestic league, in my opinion, will also not be included in the favorites list.
Villarreal is not sure I am capable of this Europa League.
I have too much confidence in Liverpool, who I support in all competitions.
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