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401  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to explain bitcoin to teenagers or children on: December 30, 2016, 09:00:33 AM
1. Take a coin and a cell phone.
2. Ask the child to go outside of the house.
3. Tell him to come to you to give back the coin.
4. Then ask him to return back outside and send you a text message via phone.
5. Carrying the coin is tougher, takes time, involves risk of losing and might be subjected to tax(tell him his parents might see the coin and take it)
6. The SMS was fast, between you two and involved no risk at all. Now tell him, bitcoin is the same without leaving behind any details i.e. the contact details from whom the message was sent.
Actually this will lead into a complicated understanding about bitcoin newcomers . Instead of giving a simply mobile and give instructions through messaging . You need to put your wallet in your mobile and that person mobile his own wallet them explain him to send and receive directly . This will make a better understanding about Bitcoin system .

Yeah that's something indeed should we do when did want to make a profit and the security of the account in the bitcoin we have, but they do have to be supported on mobile security we have. Because sometimes we're very careless in using mobile phones inside there is a wallet in which carelessness bring keylogger makes us likely to lose funds that we have. so be more careful in doing something, because right now the world is increasingly sophisticated and hackers also
402  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you like best about bitcoin? on: December 30, 2016, 08:50:49 AM
actually it is not about how easier it can be moved, but how easier I can earn it rather than fiat. the simplest way I mean is joining a signature campaign

besides, I like it when it is not controlled by the government, and no riba as long as we use it in the right way.
Yeah , you said true . And the control of Bitcoin is a big thing which making it attractive . As in case of fiat we find a big control by the government but here we are the controller instead of big agency , We own our money in our  wallet and can use any time and any amount without anyone order .
So it's freedom attracts me toward it .

Yeah, this is indeed an advantage that could not be obtained in the storage of money in this world. But it's all also gives a bad impact for us who cannot keep or secure the bitcoin correctly, because the benefits could be taken over or exploited by hackers in stealing all the funds that we have. So we must continue to be careful in keeping the money at our disposal in the bitcoin. In addition to the benefits of the things that make most people interested is because we can benefit quickly
403  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The future looks fantastic, kids love Bitcoin on: December 30, 2016, 08:42:24 AM
Kids are accepting new things much faster then adults. Knowledge about Bitcoin is good but they are not so experienced and rstional as adults so they have to be warned about danger too. Kids and teenagers are getting new infomations very quick and often parents can't control them anymore and they could get stuck on bad places like dark markets and similar.
I agree. Kids love to learn new things in this world so that they can easily adapt to changes. Bitcoin is a new technology which is very interesting and useful. Many people are attracted by Bitcoin so there are not any reason for kids to hate it. Looking forward to seeing the future when your kids grow up, it will be very very awesome

yeha, indeed bitcoin is a new technology and certainly a lot of the kids who received the new thing let alone could give an advantage to them. But from behind the positive facet, kids have to cope with life in a future world that is even worse. Where I see that all the things confidential could be purchased through technology that is not held by the Government and it could complicate by unpacking these things because it would be difficult to police investigating the case. One thing that must be done is to give the right thoughts and never saw something that invites curiosity in the Dark world
404  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: help needed on: December 30, 2016, 08:35:33 AM
So I wanted to transfer some btc to my block chain wallet.

When I opened blockchain wallet and saw recieve option it gave me a temp address to recieve the coins.

The coins have been sent and 2 confirmations + but I didnt receive anything in my block chain wallet yet.

Now when I check the recieve address has been changed !

Someone please help ..



I see that you have been wrong in posting when putting the address that your addres is supposed to be, but when it is you are wrong in doing or copy-paste the addres. If this is the case then it will not be cancelled, and you should be able to reluctantly accept this reality. Because the bitcoin can not restore your bitcoin, because it does not exist in the bitcoin feature, and I hope in the future you could be researched appropriately to avoid events like this
 
405  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The future looks fantastic, kids love Bitcoin on: December 30, 2016, 08:29:30 AM
Kids are accepting new things much faster then adults. Knowledge about Bitcoin is good but they are not so experienced and rstional as adults so they have to be warned about danger too. Kids and teenagers are getting new infomations very quick and often parents can't control them anymore and they could get stuck on bad places like dark markets and similar.

Yeah, indeed we must be more correct in introducing bitcoin to kids. For as we now know it, many things can be obtained illegally or done in the bitcoin. And it could give a fairly risky effects for those who haven't been able to do something well, let alone the kids sometimes have the urge to want to know something new or not yet they know. So, if there are kids who already know better their escorting bitcoin compared to later get a problem
 
406  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: is it possible to hack your bitcoin from your wallet? on: December 29, 2016, 02:26:55 PM
Almost all web wallets have a 2FA which can provide a lot of safety when it comes to potential hacks ,for me the best wallet is Xapo , it has a very strong security , it has a password and a PIN code and a SMS verification in case your wallets gets logged on from another IP, so the chances of your getting hacked is very small.

xapo wallet is very similar with the local wallet provider that we have here in my country, they are same when it comes to the security . you are able to make a 4 digit pass code if you're using their mobile wallet service and also they have SMS verification every time you logged in your account to a different device and IP . but the problem is that they also have an option to authenticate the log in attempt which is the email-authentication and you are possible to be hacked if a hacker knows even your email address .

It is not an issue we should worry if indeed we have account confidential and not to use access in vain, for if we cannot protect the computer then all things are very secret can be taken over by hackers. The secret account I mean is an account which indeed you never spread to was introduced by friends or anyone. So, indeed it is also one of the ways to avoid hackers and other than that we should be able to keep your PC/Laptop/hp with no clicks or visiting sites that have not believed
 
407  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What about the idea of a bitcoin shop in big cities? on: December 29, 2016, 02:01:06 PM
If you will establish a bitcoin shop in big cities then it will be a great help for our community because that can be a good way of promoting bitcoin by building a shop which accepts bitcoin. I'm also planning to establish my own business and accepts bitcoin as another option of payment so i can also help promoting bitcoin even though i'm not on the big city.

Yeah, indeed the way is the best place to promote the bitcoin to everyone who knew him recently. Because by creating a store based bitcoin (accept bitcoin), then all people will be curious to know the bitcoin, especially if we're giving more bonuses if making payment bitcoin. So, that's the best way, but we must also be careful to do business. For if we are wrong and wrong place for stores that we open so all you want will not materialize
 
408  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: actual number of people using Bitcoin? on: December 29, 2016, 01:47:54 PM
You can't say the exact number of people who are using bitcoin.
Since it is very easy for an average person to create a lot of wallet on different sites and we should not be bother of the number of people using bitcoin.

Yup, an amount said to be or in the get by some person or instasi is the amount that is not necessarily true. For all existing users in the bitcoin nowadays no one record and sometimes 2 people have a wallet and also more than 1 addres, which makes such things can make the calculation is done manually or registration will be not very suitable in fact. So, instead of having to think and calculate the users of bitcoin. The better we are looking for ways to get better profits in the bitcoin
409  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] BITSANE.COM Cryptocurrency Exchange Platform Is Now Live on: December 29, 2016, 01:37:06 PM
I keep telling you to include new coins.
Your competitors are incorporating their new coin systems. You are losing users.
It makes you habit to use it first.

Don't worry about that bitsane is already on its way and the devs and owner of this exchange already know what to do.

And besides, even there are a lot of new coins in their system the question is are those new coin does have the potential?

Since many traders today are wise enough they are not falling easily to those newly created coins that are coming out.

Sometimes it's actually better to add those new coins with large followers than those popular coins since most people are already trading them in the leading exchanges. Maybe adding those top 10 popular coins is okay and then add those new coins with big support. Even C-cex is already de-listing Ethereum lately as it lacks interest in their site.

You have a good idea, those coins that has the very potential are good to be added in bitsane's site so that those traders will also refer trading here.

And of course with those coins that are now losing its interest from the traders should be in low priority.

Still they are good to be listed because I don't think that removing them from the list is going to be good enough as we know there are traders who are also into coins that is falling but thinking that has potential.

Think looking for opportunities and potential in the coin is the best possible way, but all the things that we know is viewed from the type and the developers. Because there are many of all the chances that those working in the coin is people looking for profit. And I hope that bitsane also very selective in adding new coin that has not been seen at all the uniqueness and safety. For if bitsane wrong in doing the addition of these coins then it will create a negative impact
410  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: December 25, 2016, 11:29:52 PM
asking someone to tell u how to use your own money...... it might not end up with what you want to do with the money, for now maybe you have nothing really tangible to do with it, start up a business to get more or keep it safe for future purposes, it might be needful tomorrow more than today....

Hahhaha, this is indeed very funny indeed if no one is willing to help him to find the money in it. Because I am sure all those who are now able to earn an income are those who used to be just like him. But now they do not want to divide it.?? , is this something a good thing ..?? . The business is indeed a much better thing than have to aspire to become a company employee and my respect to those who want to start a business during the sinking, because it would give them far greater experience than those who start a business when it already has all of the
411  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When do you plan to sell? on: December 25, 2016, 11:22:01 PM
Already sold most of my stash at the right time actually.  Smiley
Made good profit actually for the gifts to everyone. Thanks to Bitcoins naturally. Hope the price gets stable soon so that can buy again.  Smiley
I think the price will continue below nine hundred for some time, but given the current market conditions, when the price starts to rise again, I think that new levels can be reached. I hope that, when price begins to recover, it's not a quick pump, it is better to be a stable and organic growth.
As stable prices are witnessing, I guess I do not need to rush for selling my bitcoins. Because due to this stable prices of bitcoin, hopefully we can expect more rally as continuation of the current price movements. I plan to sell some bitcoin and to buy back when prices showing some fluctuations, but as of now I am delaying my plans.

Yup, I also expect it because I have enormous confidence in the future that bitcoin bitcoin will change my life to get a bigger profit from now on. Everyone who ever saves the bitcoin when cheap price then it will benefit greatly in the future now, so indeed I am now starting to think about to get a lot of money in order to buy a lot of bitcoin and get great benefits.And I also noticed that the growth of the bitcoin now is much better than the previous growth
 
412  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: $1000 is on the way on: December 25, 2016, 11:16:05 PM
Well seems little away now for 1000$ since the rate has now dropped below 900 and @ 870$ per btc.

So this seems that it will be below 900$ for a while and may be for new year it will be below 900$ for the new year as well. Let us see if can reach 1000$ in January or fall back to 800$
If the price dip will go lower it will create a panic selling scenario since the other holders or investors will decide to secure their profits and start selling most of their bitcoins but if it goes up again it will create a solid foundation for the incoming new year and it might make the bitcoin to be stable on $900 and soon touch the $1000 Grin.
I think the ones that are likely to share your point of view are in the minority, because the true way up, is usually down! Experience traders in the financial markets can tell that a trend just do not continue in a straight line, there are usually market corrections and consolidations (retracement) along the way. Panicking is for gamblers, real traders already marked out barriers that if broken, would then suggest reversal is inevitable.

I am also thinking that the current dip in price is some kind of correction.  The price really incline too fast, due to either manipulation or normal demands, a correction is expected.  But if this is some kind of manipulation by whales, this dip means they are accumulating cheaper Bitcoin before the next push.  And i don't think the push will happen anytime soon, maybe next year.  So we can see a $1000 BTC probably next year.

Hmm, I'm not sure that in the next year we can see the bitcoin is at a value of $1000. for if I see from all the things that exist in it, all its growth well above the price you mentioned. So I believe the price will be far above the bitcoin $1500, as I see the growth right now is better than it used to be, so it is unlikely the price figures are at only bitcoin $1000.Will be very lucky for those who benefit when using bitcoin and buy bitcoin when cheaper price now
 
413  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: For the benefit of trader on: December 25, 2016, 10:59:29 PM
I think knowledge and experience is the most important thing in trading, you also need to control your emotion in trading, think clearly before making any decision, and money management is one of the important things to prevent you from bankrupt in trading, for me Forex trading a bit more difficult to predict because in Forex within a small rumour it can change the price significantly and too many aspect that can change the price
Actually there are a lot of suggestions and guidelines are available for making better benefits from trading for all the traders and unfortunately being a trader I am unable to follow them properly to have a better stay in my trading.

This maybe I am little nervous while I am trading. Maybe after gaining some experience I could manage it to follow those guidelines to have fruitful trading.

Why you should be scared or nervous trading friends ..? , if you do not see or want a good profit or gain amazing experience ..? . OK, I see that the things that make you nervous in trading is losing, and losing is the main factor a person has a sense of nervous, if that's true then I expect that you start thinking about all the advantages you can get and also you should learn from all experiences all the people doing the trading, because that way then you can calmly to make something better
414  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Which trading method is better? on: December 25, 2016, 10:56:01 PM
Hit and run. Even if you win for just a small amount then it is better than losing in the long run for waiting too much. A long shot investment would be those whom you could really trust but those new coins that have been popping out you better be careful. Once you win then get out.

for now situation, hit and run is the best option because if we hold for a longer time, then the price will down and up without we can predict. beside that, better we have small profit but for 10 times rather than we have big profit but in one times.
It must be purely based on your skill about predicting the price movements.

If you are capable of predicting accurately then you can try 10 times rather than hold for long period for a big targets. Usually when you're trying multiple times the chances for losses will be more. I prefer to hold for long period and that must be the best trading method for me.
My trading method/strategy is also similar to holding for some long period instead of keep on buying and selling and missing some sudden price up surges. I have found the advantage of holding for long period like covering all the price movement instead of buying and selling in more number of times.

Yup, holding a beneficial thing indeed for everyone if I use bitcoin. Because the bitcoin is wonderful and certainly gives an advantage to those who can use the thinking cerdasnya, but I am not sure that holding could give an advantage to those who can not wait or want to wait in the same time. Because as we know, that the growth of the bitcoin and also the price increase does not have a benchmark bitcoin determine so indeed should have high patience
415  Economy / Economics / Re: How to make 17 BTC out of 7 BTC ? on: December 25, 2016, 10:48:19 PM
With 7 btc anyone can reach the 17 btc, and the most safety way to make such its trading or football betting, i dont see any other easy way to achieve such, betting 0,50btc at each game may result into a return of 10-40%. Sugesting someone to steal or build a ponzi project isnt something i were expecting, even knowing some people will try to make such thing.

Wow, you are indeed appears to give the best advice of all things that exist in the world. But you need to know, that it is not all that we rencakan have a positive rate or provide a profit remains as what we have planned, so we should be able to find at least 3 plan so that in time we can switch execution or use other means if at first did not plan to fruition. And I am sure if the gambling for profit becomes main street in search of profit then I'm sure everything will end up at a loss
416  Economy / Economics / Re: Is Paypal a scam? on: December 25, 2016, 10:41:37 PM
Why PayPal is a scam? I have never had problems with it while I used it. I didn't use it for long actuall, a year for sure, maybe something changed in that site. So I don't know why you are making panic around it indeed.
No change in any thing they are doing as they was doing few years back but few peoples not read terms and conditions and as they fall in problem they start to cry its a scam they have some good and solid foundation for years and doing business with all their own rules and regulations


Yup, everything is indeed more complex and overwhelming in the paypal. But unfortunately I am seeing more growth month paypal is getting worse, because many of the people who use paypal now is quite difficult to do all the things in it and most people who use paypal now is less suitable in all regulations and policies that have been set by paypal. So it is better to use bitcoin for bitcoin is much better than paypal
417  Economy / Economics / Re: Do You Think Bitcoin Will Replace Dollar Soon? on: December 25, 2016, 10:34:18 PM
Nah this is not possible, the bitcoin is in fact on a good way but the dollar is still way bigger and the bitcoin also need it so for this time it will not happen, maybe in the far future.
but sometime i think bitcoin can be replace dollar soon because bitcoin adopting is increasing too much faster than dollar around the world a lot of people investing their money in bitcoin and bitcoin is very much useful currency.
At some countries people does store their local currencie into dollars, that is less volatil then their currencie. Bitcoin is used with the main interest of make money with the changes it has, and there isnt any best coin to try get an easy profit without taking several risks. Bitcoin is just another option to those wich does make a lot of transactions online, since its low cost, easy to use and huge potencial to grow over time.

Yup, indeed at first everyone using the dollar as a place to invest or safeguard their money from shifting or a decrease in the price of the currency of the country they came from. But for now most who've known them migrated more and bitcoin started to give a good effect to everyone using bitcoin. The dollar is indeed better, however if seen from all points of view then bitcoin is much better than all the stuff that is in dollars. And you're absolutely right, that growth will be high bitcoin
418  Economy / Economics / Re: Why the price of Bitcoin change more than traditional currencies? on: December 25, 2016, 10:28:42 PM
One of the reason I see why bitcoin is always fluctuating is  because of demand. The buying and selling of users is what makes bitcoins price go up and down and of course it is decentralized and it is in the free market unlike fiat that is decentralized of course because of government and banks, also it is used mainly for transactions everday without even needing an exchanger that's why.

I agree that the reason of the fluctuation of bitcoin is the decentralized system.  We all know that there is no body that regulates bitcoin meaning anyone with capacity and capability can manipulate it according to their likings.  Aside from that, bitcoin is susceptible to speculations of investors that makes it highly volatile.

Price fluctuations, but indeed a bitcoin I bet that the price of bitcoin no regard to investors who are interested in bitcoin. Because the existing investors in the bitcoin does not have any policy or the correct strength inside. So if an investor is associated as the person who controlled the economy of bitcoin, then it's all not true. Bitcoin nobody mastered and could only give a good effect is mining, without mining bitcoin will not be able to walk normally
419  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: December 24, 2016, 03:23:34 PM
Pros:
1. 1BTC Bet on a Soccer match i know i will never lose, Ez 0.2BTC so i spend it on gaming accessories.
2. Whenever me and my girlfriend goes for a night out, i spend my Bitcoins. Don't have to ask from parents.

I never had any con with Gambling as i never deposited any money for gambling. First i provided services to earn some Bitcoins and then gamble it. EZ.

Definitely that's the same as working and spend your salary in gambling, it might not bring big effect to you because you might just working for easy money, and I do not believe that anyone can consistently make money in gambling like your story as in fact there's no easy money in gambling.

It may look easy but it's not easy after all as all of us are subject to losing in the long run, the enjoyment we felt is certainly temporary only.

Yup, indeed gambling is a place that could give us an advantage. But behind the gains could get there a lot of problems we have to solve it properly ..!! . For if we can't resolve it correctly, then we will only benefit at the beginning of the first time using it and ended up getting a very large losses due to trapped in the maze of gambling. So, if you want to do gambling do not ever thinking that gambling is easy. Think that gambling is a very dangerous place and we have to be careful when using it
420  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: December 24, 2016, 03:15:00 PM
It is neurological and part of your brain and the human condition. We wired to be greedy so we must fight this greed with logic and reason.
Gambling can easily become addictive even if you just play it for fun because you want to see how much you will win like a "highscore" or if you addicted because of profits then it is even worse for you.

I think not just greed that makes someone get addicted, but also the desire of those who want to earn an income do not need to leave home or spend a lot of energy. There is no wrong things for all the people doing gambling because gambling is also one of the places that give you an advantage and also be one of the things that makes us become more quiet or entertained. However it was not utilized properly, or most gamblers use gambling for profit is great. So the game they do exceed the limit and they use it in a way that careless or not take into account first
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