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401  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Off-Topic on: September 09, 2013, 10:01:13 PM
Let me point it out for you since your trying to bury it with gen 2 BS.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.msg3115839#msg3115839


Is it not possible for you guys to use TerraHash's stuff? They said they have working k16's with less than 1% error rates.

What Terrahash stuff? They have used stuff that Bkk made as opensource. To be absolutely clear on this, I've wrote to them about mine board with 4 chips assembled hashing at 400MHz with around 0.6% ER, when they were asking me via PM about the changes in HW I made to get it working. They were not able to fix even this for the whole time. They claimed even here on this forum, that the design is wrong.
Later, when they did claimed at 5th of September, that they do have a working board, and the only issue there is I2C, I've wrote them again, asking what firmware changes do they made to hash with all 16 chips and that low error rate.
They didn't even bother to wrote me back.
So what do they actually have? Nothing? Lies?

402  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer TerraHash, TerraHash.com on: September 09, 2013, 07:36:37 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.msg3115839#msg3115839


I don't think everyone needs to.abandon.  For the sake of community development. I'd say we finish the project.  If a handful exist  that's okay. I understand people are MIA as well as nerve racked.  That is why I believe wr need fresh hands and eyes on this project.  

Absolutely! I'm not advocating we abandon the project. But there's no point in continuing the design using first-generation Avalon chips. They are obsolete. At this point, with an assembled board in hand, if you mine forever, you will not make back the cost of the miner. However, we can retarget for a different chip and, at the very least, break even.

The design is fully functional, the only thing that needs to be finished is firmware.
I have two boards hashing with only one side (with 8 chips) at about 3Ghps, ~3% ER (without USB ferrite beads), chips overclocked to 375MHz with no overvolt. Other side on each board has few chips that do not respond, but this is because those chips were poorly soldered. And on every board it's different side. Tried to fix it yesterday, but was unsuccessful, and now waiting for solder wick and isopropylalcohol.
I've also tried some modifications in firmware for 16 chips, but it wasn't really usable. The board with that did hash faster, but had around 20% ER - which is a firmware and poorly assembled chips problem, not the design one. Now waiting with this until I fix the other side, then will continue working on FW.
Tried also to contact one of the companies, that claimed to have fully working board (with firmware that hash with all 16 chips), but they did not respond. Anyone here can guess why.
About the ROI, it really is gone now, but you have to take into account, that BTC price will likely go up, so even if you lose now, you can gain later. Especially if you've already made an investment in the HW, chips etc.

Edit:
And about changing the HW for next gen Avalon chips (or any other chips), who is going to make this? Bkk seems to be gone (probably get sick of all the events regarding chips delivery, companies taking advantage of opensource project and giving nothing back) and there is noone (even in the group of those companies, which started their business on this) who is able to make this change.

Is it not possible for you guys to use TerraHash's stuff? They said they have working k16's with less than 1% error rates.

What Terrahash stuff? They have used stuff that Bkk made as opensource. To be absolutely clear on this, I've wrote to them about mine board with 4 chips assembled hashing at 400MHz with around 0.6% ER, when they were asking me via PM about the changes in HW I made to get it working. They were not able to fix even this for the whole time. They claimed even here on this forum, that the design is wrong.
Later, when they did claimed at 5th of September, that they do have a working board, and the only issue there is I2C, I've wrote them again, asking what firmware changes do they made to hash with all 16 chips and that low error rate.
They didn't even bother to wrote me back.
So what do they actually have? Nothing? Lies?
403  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Off-Topic on: September 09, 2013, 07:31:31 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.msg3115839#msg3115839


I don't think everyone needs to.abandon.  For the sake of community development. I'd say we finish the project.  If a handful exist  that's okay. I understand people are MIA as well as nerve racked.  That is why I believe wr need fresh hands and eyes on this project.  

Absolutely! I'm not advocating we abandon the project. But there's no point in continuing the design using first-generation Avalon chips. They are obsolete. At this point, with an assembled board in hand, if you mine forever, you will not make back the cost of the miner. However, we can retarget for a different chip and, at the very least, break even.

The design is fully functional, the only thing that needs to be finished is firmware.
I have two boards hashing with only one side (with 8 chips) at about 3Ghps, ~3% ER (without USB ferrite beads), chips overclocked to 375MHz with no overvolt. Other side on each board has few chips that do not respond, but this is because those chips were poorly soldered. And on every board it's different side. Tried to fix it yesterday, but was unsuccessful, and now waiting for solder wick and isopropylalcohol.
I've also tried some modifications in firmware for 16 chips, but it wasn't really usable. The board with that did hash faster, but had around 20% ER - which is a firmware and poorly assembled chips problem, not the design one. Now waiting with this until I fix the other side, then will continue working on FW.
Tried also to contact one of the companies, that claimed to have fully working board (with firmware that hash with all 16 chips), but they did not respond. Anyone here can guess why.
About the ROI, it really is gone now, but you have to take into account, that BTC price will likely go up, so even if you lose now, you can gain later. Especially if you've already made an investment in the HW, chips etc.

Edit:
And about changing the HW for next gen Avalon chips (or any other chips), who is going to make this? Bkk seems to be gone (probably get sick of all the events regarding chips delivery, companies taking advantage of opensource project and giving nothing back) and there is noone (even in the group of those companies, which started their business on this) who is able to make this change.

Is it not possible for you guys to use TerraHash's stuff? They said they have working k16's with less than 1% error rates.

What Terrahash stuff? They have used stuff that Bkk made as opensource. To be absolutely clear on this, I've wrote to them about mine board with 4 chips assembled hashing at 400MHz with around 0.6% ER, when they were asking me via PM about the changes in HW I made to get it working. They were not able to fix even this for the whole time. They claimed even here on this forum, that the design is wrong.
Later, when they did claimed at 5th of September, that they do have a working board, and the only issue there is I2C, I've wrote them again, asking what firmware changes do they made to hash with all 16 chips and that low error rate.
They didn't even bother to wrote me back.
So what do they actually have? Nothing? Lies?

edit: fuck you bar
404  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Mining Equipment Manufacturers -- Updated Lead Times on: September 09, 2013, 07:29:35 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.msg3115839#msg3115839


I don't think everyone needs to.abandon.  For the sake of community development. I'd say we finish the project.  If a handful exist  that's okay. I understand people are MIA as well as nerve racked.  That is why I believe wr need fresh hands and eyes on this project.  

Absolutely! I'm not advocating we abandon the project. But there's no point in continuing the design using first-generation Avalon chips. They are obsolete. At this point, with an assembled board in hand, if you mine forever, you will not make back the cost of the miner. However, we can retarget for a different chip and, at the very least, break even.

The design is fully functional, the only thing that needs to be finished is firmware.
I have two boards hashing with only one side (with 8 chips) at about 3Ghps, ~3% ER (without USB ferrite beads), chips overclocked to 375MHz with no overvolt. Other side on each board has few chips that do not respond, but this is because those chips were poorly soldered. And on every board it's different side. Tried to fix it yesterday, but was unsuccessful, and now waiting for solder wick and isopropylalcohol.
I've also tried some modifications in firmware for 16 chips, but it wasn't really usable. The board with that did hash faster, but had around 20% ER - which is a firmware and poorly assembled chips problem, not the design one. Now waiting with this until I fix the other side, then will continue working on FW.
Tried also to contact one of the companies, that claimed to have fully working board (with firmware that hash with all 16 chips), but they did not respond. Anyone here can guess why.
About the ROI, it really is gone now, but you have to take into account, that BTC price will likely go up, so even if you lose now, you can gain later. Especially if you've already made an investment in the HW, chips etc.

Edit:
And about changing the HW for next gen Avalon chips (or any other chips), who is going to make this? Bkk seems to be gone (probably get sick of all the events regarding chips delivery, companies taking advantage of opensource project and giving nothing back) and there is noone (even in the group of those companies, which started their business on this) who is able to make this change.

Is it not possible for you guys to use TerraHash's stuff? They said they have working k16's with less than 1% error rates.

What Terrahash stuff? They have used stuff that Bkk made as opensource. To be absolutely clear on this, I've wrote to them about mine board with 4 chips assembled hashing at 400MHz with around 0.6% ER, when they were asking me via PM about the changes in HW I made to get it working. They were not able to fix even this for the whole time. They claimed even here on this forum, that the design is wrong.
Later, when they did claimed at 5th of September, that they do have a working board, and the only issue there is I2C, I've wrote them again, asking what firmware changes do they made to hash with all 16 chips and that low error rate.
They didn't even bother to wrote me back.
So what do they actually have? Nothing? Lies?
405  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Klondike - 16 chip ASIC Open Source Board - Preliminary on: September 09, 2013, 06:51:25 PM
I don't think everyone needs to.abandon.  For the sake of community development. I'd say we finish the project.  If a handful exist  that's okay. I understand people are MIA as well as nerve racked.  That is why I believe wr need fresh hands and eyes on this project.  

Absolutely! I'm not advocating we abandon the project. But there's no point in continuing the design using first-generation Avalon chips. They are obsolete. At this point, with an assembled board in hand, if you mine forever, you will not make back the cost of the miner. However, we can retarget for a different chip and, at the very least, break even.

The design is fully functional, the only thing that needs to be finished is firmware.
I have two boards hashing with only one side (with 8 chips) at about 3Ghps, ~3% ER (without USB ferrite beads), chips overclocked to 375MHz with no overvolt. Other side on each board has few chips that do not respond, but this is because those chips were poorly soldered. And on every board it's different side. Tried to fix it yesterday, but was unsuccessful, and now waiting for solder wick and isopropylalcohol.
I've also tried some modifications in firmware for 16 chips, but it wasn't really usable. The board with that did hash faster, but had around 20% ER - which is a firmware and poorly assembled chips problem, not the design one. Now waiting with this until I fix the other side, then will continue working on FW.
Tried also to contact one of the companies, that claimed to have fully working board (with firmware that hash with all 16 chips), but they did not respond. Anyone here can guess why.
About the ROI, it really is gone now, but you have to take into account, that BTC price will likely go up, so even if you lose now, you can gain later. Especially if you've already made an investment in the HW, chips etc.

Edit:
And about changing the HW for next gen Avalon chips (or any other chips), who is going to make this? Bkk seems to be gone (probably get sick of all the events regarding chips delivery, companies taking advantage of opensource project and giving nothing back) and there is noone (even in the group of those companies, which started their business on this) who is able to make this change.

Is it not possible for you guys to use TerraHash's stuff? They said they have working k16's with less than 1% error rates.
406  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Off-Topic on: September 09, 2013, 03:37:46 PM
If anyone in these forum
Put money at terrahash for their hosting
Will be the most stupid person at world



Why? Terrahash's faults lie completely with the Avalon chips.  How can we judge a company on their product when they don't have all the parts for a product?

TH's faults go much deeper.  Try to send them a ticket and see it not get answered.  Think customer service will instantly change when their business plan does?...... it wont.  And if thats one of your alt accounts hi Amir!

I have a ticket in that isn't answered and yes it makes me upset but nowhere near enough to cancel or say they are a scam.  When in doubt claim the other person is an alt.  So you are KNC's alt?  Trying to make the competition look worse.

You will notice i took it out right after post as I felt after typing it it was no proof on your account.   Amir did use alt accounts, when this thread started there were a few specifically that started right then and i have a feeling if mods look at IP it would no doubt be confirmed.    I am no ones alt to be fair I am mining with GPU's and ASICMiner gear.  Why ASICMiner right now, because they deliver a product and i enjoy mining.  I would have LOVED to be running some k-16's but TH simply did not pan out, and Amir is a horrible customer relations person.  If you did any tickets months ago you most likely would have talked to him, if you did I would be surprised if you ended it with a pleasant experience.

TH's competition needs to do nothing to make them look worse.  TH did so bad on hardware they are now going into hosting and buying others hardware.   If you honestly think after all their lies, missed promises, you should keep your order with them then more power to you.  You are truly a loyal TH customer.

In three months want to take bets on if they give out full refunds?

It wont be possible for them to do refunds in 3 months when they are out of business and declared bancruptcy.
407  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Mining Equipment Manufacturers -- Updated Lead Times on: September 09, 2013, 03:31:25 PM
Terrahash is not tested... please update your charts.. they cant even get a k16 hashing correctly
Really?  Damn.  I was sure that I read they had at least one working unit.

Please be careful who you listen to on here. Kkooks is not a very reliable source.

Please see the following post from Terrahash.

One of the assembled K64s, that I am trying to get running. Individual K16s are working with less than 1% error rate. There is some issue with I2C (board to board) communication, that I am hoping to iron out by tonight.



"Individual K16s are working with less than 1% error rate"

No proof of this at all, video please or it didnt happen.
408  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Off-Topic on: September 09, 2013, 11:02:15 AM
It has been nearly 10 days Amir, where are the working k64's?


Where is Terrahash? They are not responding to emails, tickets, voice call (mail box still not setup).
They are obviously monitoring the forum though.

Let it be known that Terrahash has my chips today. So the two weeks clock starts now.
I need to know what size and spec of fan to buy but I can't find the info as terrahash is not responding to anything.

Looks like someone called TH's bluff.
Now we will see...

Timer removed. End time: 2013-09-13+24:00:00EDT
409  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Did i just get Fucked by BFL on: September 09, 2013, 12:56:35 AM
OK so i ordered a Jall base model on the 23rd of june 2013 and i ordered the upgrade a week later.

just checked the BFL Blog and....

Jalapenos 4.5 and 5 gh/s: Feb 12-14, 2013 no Jallys shipped today


have they halted production on the upgraded units?

Dear Techkojj,

To address your concern, production of jalapenos have not been halted, and we have been producing them at very high-speed since the beginning (as it's easier to assemble).


Thanks,
Nasser

bwaaaaahaahahahahahahahahahahahahah
410  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN IN STOCK SHIPPING!] Group Buy #11 USB Miners 0.17 BTC or less! USA on: September 08, 2013, 05:05:40 PM
Anybody want to sell there coupons?

I plan on giving a few away to some co-workers.
411  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Groupbuy] Jupiter KNCMiner (0.5 BTC shares) 12 sold! [CLOSED] !!! on: September 08, 2013, 12:34:09 PM
Can we still buy shares?

You can purchase shares via bitfunder,
https://bitfunder.com/asset/ADDICTION
412  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Mining Equipment Manufacturers -- Updated Lead Times on: September 08, 2013, 04:56:45 AM
FCTaiChi,
Why are the avalon based miners still in the table?
Based upon the chip orders being refunded in full and BKKCoins going dark, its not looking good at all.
413  Other / Off-topic / Help r/bitcoin with message to newegg CEO on: September 07, 2013, 11:37:25 PM
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1lxhsa/i_know_the_ceo_of_newegg/
414  Economy / Securities / Re: [IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - The Bitcoin Bank (Cyprus) - LMB Holdings on: September 07, 2013, 05:33:26 PM
This looks fantastic! Definitely will be investing in this.

Thanks, if you have any questions, please do post them and I will answer them as quickly as I can.

Inside the prospectus I read:

Funding Risks
We require 14,097 BTC to get to market: failure to sell the full balance of shares would
result in the sacrifice of the second branch at start­up and the implementation of systems that
allow residents of other EU countries to sign up and open an account online. Also, the banks
operating reserves would be reduced.


But when I do the math, you plan to raise :

Pre­IPVO Offering ­ 500,000 Shares (5.2%) @ 0.0025 BTC each = 1250 BTC
Public Offering ­ 8,000,000 Shares (83,3%) @ 0.003 BTC each = 24 000 BTC

Why so much funds (+25K) raised via the IPO ? I don't get it.

Great idea, however.




The purpose of an IPO is to raise as much funds as possible for the company, not for investors to become rich.

When companies come public on existing exchanges (nasdaq, nyse, amex, etc) and have huge pops on the day of the IPO, are successful for the investors but not for the company coming public.

When this happens it means that the IPO was NOT priced correctly because it left allot of money on the table that could have gone to the company trying to raise funds for itself to grow.
415  Economy / Securities / Re: [IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - The Bitcoin Bank (Cyprus) - LMB Holdings on: September 07, 2013, 04:57:01 PM
Would you be willing to do an AMA on r/Bitcoin?
416  Economy / Securities / Re: [IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - The Bitcoin Bank (Cyprus) - LMB Holdings on: September 07, 2013, 04:23:40 PM
reserved
417  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Off-Topic on: September 07, 2013, 03:13:48 PM
TerraHash Scam Accusation Thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289709
418  Economy / Scam Accusations / Scammer TerraHash, TerraHash.com on: September 07, 2013, 03:12:38 PM
TerraHash is a scam, there is no two ways about it, and it's about time somebody has called terrahash and its staff out on the scam that they are pulling.

Proof,
TerraHash has lied and or misled us about nearly everything.

  • Misled customers about CloudHashing deal by non-disclosure of what the pre-order funds would be used for.
  • Misled customers about sales for early adopters only.
  • Misled customers about physical location.
  • Misled customers by attempting to remain behind privacy protection on website.
  • Misleads customers by non-disclosure of company principals.
  • Misleads customers by failing to communicate about almost anything. Support tickets, refund requests, emails, phone calls all go unanswered.
  • Misleads customers by telling us we can stop by for a tour, but when people do, they rush them out the door or simply are not there at the office at all all day long.
  • Threatens customers when customers are forced to turn to PayPal claims for a refund rather than simply refunding the customer.
  • Misled customers about chip orders.
  • Misled customers (and continues to do so) about purchasing required components.

To date TerraHash has scammed 100's of thousands of dollars from the community and continues to do so, and is now attempting to scam even more money from the bitcoin community by opening pre-orders for their new scam.

Profile of the scammer in question:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=112022

Main thread of scammer:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=198489

I may have missed a few things, feel free to add to my list if you think I have missed anything.
419  Other / Off-topic / Re: TerraHash Bankruptcy! on: September 07, 2013, 02:27:20 PM
It couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch either.
420  Other / Off-topic / Re: SCAM ALERT: Johnniewalker's Bags of Cash on: September 07, 2013, 12:27:05 AM
We need some kind of proof. You saying that someone told you something does not make it real. You need it provide proof that he is actually a scammer.

 Roll Eyes  Ugh... F i n e.   See attached photo..



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