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4001  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 05, 2017, 01:34:38 PM
Which is neither amazing nor eloquent.


Your post on the other hand... I love the way you use language. no homo

I know, right? I suck at writing. Won't even try to hide that.  Grin
4002  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 05, 2017, 01:31:10 PM
Good article about the coming futures market:

https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-futures-make-way-new-kind-whale/



'good' is the new doubleplus ungood?
they won't get very far shorting bitcoin

Notice how the MSM wants to take every possible piece good news for Bitcoin and turn it into a negative?

Every. Single. Time.

Just wait guys, next year the launching of Bitcoin ETFs will also be "bad for Bitcoin" too.

Got to keep Average Joes far far away from Bitcoin. Or at least for another 10-20 years.  Wink
4003  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 05, 2017, 01:14:49 PM
I believe the correct term is rant since it was a rather humourless and somewhat condescending, thinly-veiled letter of reprimand for BCash detractors.

Someone from the BCash camp gave Rick Falkvinge the green light to write it and put it out there. And I believe that he wrote it as a quite serious, passionate diatribe. It was full of narcissistic hubris and swagger in support of BCash and it's supposed principles. The same kind of crap we hear from Ver and Wright. But it inadvertently showed how much centralized control and influence over BCash and its supporters that they want to enact. Like a fkn cult or something.

It's only when the whole thing backfired and their camp received backlash and derision, that they started walking it back as some sort of "joke" or "prank" or some attempt at satire.

Rick is one of those political figures that deep down might mean well, but has now become so egotistical and full of himself that he truly believes that everything that he writes is awesome and that people are moved by his amazing, eloquent prose. Which is neither amazing nor eloquent.
4004  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 05, 2017, 11:46:31 AM
Jamie Dimon at odds with his own company? I thought he was going to fire anyone that was trading with bitcoin?

http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-price-record-december-5-jp-morgan-digital-gold-2017-12
4005  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Bullish Bitcoin Media Center (The ONLY Bullish Bitcoin News Thread) on: December 04, 2017, 10:43:35 PM
Hut 8 Partners with the Bitfury Group to Establish North America’s Largest Bitcoin Datacenters
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20171204005288/en/Hut-8-Partners-Bitfury-Group-Establish-North
4006  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 04, 2017, 09:42:32 PM

Respect lost. Will never trade there, ever.

Eh...but who am I kidding, I never trade anyway.  Cheesy
4007  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 04, 2017, 09:19:50 PM
Bitstamp to start trading Bcash today

If true I've lost all respect for them.
4008  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 04, 2017, 03:33:36 PM
Makes me sick to my stomach to how all of this trading money will not actually flow into bitcoin but rather in the pockets of CME manipulators.
Fuck CME and futures contracts.

Well, there might be a silver lining. Futures trading heavily weighted to the buy side. So support for the underlying will likely steadily flow in to BTC. Not all of that will leave, creating buying pressure over time.
4009  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why i think the CME listing Bitcoin Futures is actually a bad thing! on: December 04, 2017, 02:58:42 PM
According to how the Bitcoin Reference Rate (BRR) will be calculated, it appears that intraday volatility will have very little effect on the futures price.

http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/files/bitcoin-reference-rate-methodology.pdf
4010  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 04, 2017, 02:19:02 PM
I thought CME was only planning daytime trading for the time being. I might be wrong, though. Honestly, I haven't read the documentation with great care.

I believe you're right. Should be Mon.-Fri., normal U.S. stock trading hours (9:30am-4p EST).
4011  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 04, 2017, 01:50:48 PM
In the age of computers "money" that can be created and exchange hands safely online / via networks BTC to me makes far more sense than a piece of gold.

Oh I agree. Bitcoin is better and easier in every way than physical gold.

Gold as insurance and a fairly stable store of value can work as well, but the establishment has made sure to first de-monetize it and then crush it to the point of near extraction/refinement cost. That was their plan all along. People, esp younger generations, just aren't interested in owning precious metals anymore. And I can't say that I blame them.
4012  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 04, 2017, 01:30:36 PM
Good lord, you know it's getting bad for the establishment when they trot out Jim Rickards to defend precious metals and slam Bitcoin:

http://www.businessinsider.com/economist-jim-rickards-bitcoin-versus-gold-price-manipulation-2017-12

Btw, it's now widely believed the Jim Rickards is secretly working for the establishment. Like a paid double agent constantly shilling for Gold, which he and the CFTC knows full well that Gold will never go anywhere pricewise as long as they have their thumb on it with billions in naked short paper contracts...
4013  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 04, 2017, 11:40:14 AM
Could always wait and see if I can get a free bought by Proudhon Rolex.  Grin

Here's the Proudhon Rolex:


And here's the CSW BCash knockoff:
4014  Economy / Economics / Re: Would bitcoin help teach kids about saving? on: December 03, 2017, 07:11:07 PM
"Would bitcoin help teach kids about saving?"

No, kids are stupid.

And bitcoin is apparently not even teaching most adults about saving, much less kids.
4015  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2017 Bitcoin Price-Chart: the price is fractal, so the pattern will repeat. 💸 on: December 03, 2017, 06:58:22 PM
Great to see you back.

The Pegafractal Cryptograph Currency Conjecture ....

Haha. Can this be the name of the next Big Bang Theory episode?  Cheesy
4016  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 03, 2017, 06:52:57 PM
Here are the confirmed sources
-snip-

You forgot the tea leaves and phrenology.  Cheesy

And numerology, like JJG likes to accuse me of..
4017  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 03, 2017, 06:34:42 PM
"confirmed sources"....new WO inside joke catchphrase  Wink Cheesy

Confirmed. Because sources.
4018  Economy / Speculation / Re: FANTASTIC !!! --- 3 years ago Tim Draper predicted $10K per Bitcoin by 2018 ! on: December 03, 2017, 06:05:07 PM
One thing to consider, Tim Draper is part of the wealthy elite and may be an insider. Meaning that in the circles that he runs in, he may get insider information that ordinary people on the street don't.

I believe he may have known a year or two in advance about the CME Group launching Bitcoin futures trading, and the NASDAQ Bitcoin futures on the way. He may also be aware of current Bitcoin ETF discussions. Perhaps he knew that once these discussions got underway and launch dates got closer, the price would run up and eventually hit his $10k price prediction.

This is just a guess. Is that insider trading? Well not really, he probably just knew what was being discussed in certain circles and the eventual impact it would have on the market.
4019  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 03, 2017, 05:47:40 PM
I don't understand the bet. In which circumstances does he lose and what does he has to give you in return?

He only loses if he takes the $200 in cash and never buys any bitcoin. I'm fairly certain that bitcoin will be much higher come Jan 1st 2019.

I mean... if he sells sometime before the deadline (therefore "losing the bet") for... ie $4000. What does he owes you?

He owes me nothing. He has to hold the bitcoin for a year. If he sells before the deadline, then he'll simply lose my respect for not honoring the terms of the bet. A test of his hodling ability through the peaks and valleys.


The bet is not really designed for him to lose. It's a way to get him exposed to bitcoin without him risking anything.
4020  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 03, 2017, 05:07:39 PM
So I'm making a holiday bet with an in-law.

I offered to pitch in $200 for the holiday X-mas meal that he is cooking for the family. He also has a poor attitude toward Bitcoin.

So instead of giving him dollars, I'm going to make him a bet instead just to prove Bitcoin is better. And he loves bets.

The bet will go like this:

1) I give him $200 in bitcoin instead of cash.

2) BUT, he has to hold it until at least Jan 1st, 2019 and cannot sell no matter the price action.

3) If the value of bitcoin falls below $200 by that date, I will give him enough bitcoin to make up the difference in value.

4) If the value of bitcoin stays equal to or rises above $200, he keeps it all and can sell if he wishes.

It's a win-win bet for him. I'm doing this because we need to convert more people to see the power of this new "digital gold".
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