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4001  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Dank Bank Deposits - low risk, dank soul guarantee - 1.5%-2.5% weekly on: September 25, 2012, 11:40:34 PM
No, it operates on karma because it will continue to thrive as long as I stay on the path I'm on.  And it gives me actual incentive to not steal from my investors.  If I didn't believe in karma and didn't think it mattered to be an honest person, I could steal my clients funds without a second thought.  But that's not who I am.
4002  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: September 25, 2012, 10:28:38 PM
Time will tell who is right.
4003  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] Used Q6600 Core 2 Quad 2.4Ghz - 4.20 BTC shipped on: September 25, 2012, 09:52:07 PM
Updated price to 4.20 BTC shipped.
4004  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: September 25, 2012, 08:38:16 PM
I'm not saying the definition is accurate, I'm saying the concept is.
4005  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: September 25, 2012, 08:19:27 PM
Who was talking about evolution?  Evolution and creationism are both correct.  We evolved into what we are, yes.  We were also created, by the universe, by god.  We are made of the universe.

Again, it's just the perspective you're looking from, both are true.

Evolution has predictive power and is useful. Creationism predicts nothing and is therefore useless.
Creationism is not like we just appeared out of thin air.  The big bang happened, creating the universe, creating the solar systems, creating planets, creating life, creating us.  We were created, just not in a religious way.  They're the same thing.
4006  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: September 25, 2012, 08:13:43 PM
You fail to realize, I'm not arguing against science, at all.  Science is only good for our reality though, how can you judge something of another reality with science?  Don't tell me you're not open to the possibility of a multiverse or alternate realities, are you?

Anything is possible, but no, that would not happen.  You don't pick and choose karma.
4007  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: September 25, 2012, 07:53:33 PM
Maybe reality has hit me, and not you?

Think what you wish, I can't debate this forever, every valid point I make is disregarded with some snide remark or illogical reasoning.  I used to think like you guys, I used to be a straight A atheist who dwelled into science, then something happened to change my view.  I guess you could call it hitting reality.

Whatever floats your boat.
4008  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: September 25, 2012, 07:08:45 PM
Who was talking about evolution?  Evolution and creationism are both correct.  We evolved into what we are, yes.  We were also created, by the universe, by god.  We are made of the universe.

Again, it's just the perspective you're looking from, both are true.
4009  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: September 25, 2012, 06:10:32 PM
You realize science doesn't disprove spirituality, right?  There's no point of arguing philosophy with science, though you can use each other to grasp a better understanding of them.  Science never can, it can only explain the same things from a worldly perspective.  Since you can't disprove the existence of god, and others have first hand, supernatural experiences, why is it so hard to think it's plausible?

Regarding your bolded statement, I did not say that.  Mental disorders, disease, anything 'negative' is a reaction from the surrounding environment.  It's not random.  A positive environment would not produce these.

And god (the universe, not religious god) does not help those that serve themselves, god helps those that serve others.  Once again, the basis of karma.
4010  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: September 25, 2012, 04:16:05 PM
Right.
4011  Other / Off-topic / Re: Have you ever encountered other beings or aliens? on: September 25, 2012, 03:41:37 PM
Let's just ignore the fact that in all of human history not one time has this been documented to happen. For whatever reason, the aliens choose to only contact fringe element weirdos who believe in them. one would think they would contact scientists. Roll Eyes
I'm quite sure it's been documented throughout time.
4012  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: September 25, 2012, 03:39:16 PM
I'm not denying any scientific evidence supporting your claims.  Doesn't change the fact we're spiritual creatures.  Love is the highest, most pure form of energy.  Nothing I said was to be construed as offensive, it's simply another viewpoint, if you took it offensively, you did so yourself.  Believe as you wish, if you couldn't see the truth in what I said, oh well.

By the way, regardless if you think love is an energy in this reality or not, my example of karma still stands true.  Put out positive energy around you and others, it may come in return.  Put out bad energy around you, negativity will be returned.  It's a very simple concept that if you spread love to someone, they're more likely to spread it back than if you spread hate to them.
4013  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: September 25, 2012, 07:15:30 AM
So you measure how much I love someone with volts?
4014  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: September 25, 2012, 06:41:17 AM
So are dreams not real because we cannot measure them?  

We can't?
What unit do you measure them in?  Can we capture them into video?

We measure the brain activity with an EEG.  However, your argument seems to boil down to "Was there such a thing as sound before we could record it?" which doesn't make much sense.
I didn't ask how you measure it, I asked what unit you use.
4015  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: September 25, 2012, 06:18:14 AM
So are dreams not real because we cannot measure them?  

We can't?
What unit do you measure them in?  Can we capture them into video?
4016  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: September 25, 2012, 05:26:42 AM
So are dreams not real because we cannot measure them?  Are dreams not another reality?  I never said spirituality negates science, but neither does science negate spirituality.

You clearly aren't open to the possibility we live in a spiritual universe.
4017  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: September 25, 2012, 05:00:54 AM
Have you ever felt love, Monster?
No. For I am a forum robot. Beep boop. How do make babby?

Of course.
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 Or power?
Yes. What's your point?
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 There's a very distinct energy associated with those.

BUZZ! Sorry.

It's not energy. It's emotions. Specifically biochemical changes within the body brought on by stimuli. Even love, for as wonderful as it feels and as great as it is to get and give, is just biochemical responsive within that densely packed nerve cluster we call a brain. Check this for a shortened explanation regarding how our minds process and signal love.

If power and love were actually an energy we would be able to measure and quantify it, or at least discover its interactions with other objects in order to frame the outline of the information we are missing.

And the feeling of power? Comes from your brain. Not magic. Not energy. Just plain biochemical signals in the meat machine we call a body.

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You cannot measure it because they're beyond this reality, intangible.
Actually, several research papers do talk about being able to measure just how much someone is in love based on brain mapping and imaging combined with precise blood-work.

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 You can only measure things in this world we live in.
If they are beyond reality, they cannot effect our reality, because they do not interact with it or leave any trace. They have as much interaction with this dimension/reality as phlogiston does.

In order to be able to effect this reality, this world we live in, it must cause some kind of change or effect, otherwise it does not effect our reality and thus does not actually matter.

If karma is indeed an actual energy force than we should be able to measure the energy, and barring that, observe this energy's effect upon our own universe in a measurable, tangible way.

It's basic scientific and logical process.
I don't see why it can't be both, Ant.  Our lack of understanding/measuring these energies does not make them any less of energy.  The human brain perceives all sorts of energies, like light and sound waves.  The other senses it perceives are also energy, feelings, emotions, love, power are spiritual energies we cannot measure, but know exist.  These energies, while intangible, do play a huge role in our reality.  Science is a mans take at understanding things in our universe from a hands on perspective.  Spirituality is a mans take at understanding things in our universe from a philosophical perspective.  They can coexist.
4018  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: September 25, 2012, 04:45:58 AM

It's both.  Body language, verbal tone, feelings, energy, all one of the same.  Have you ever felt love, Monster?  Or power?  There's a very distinct energy associated with those.

How can you measure karma energy?  How can you measure love and power energies?
You cannot measure it because they're beyond this reality, intangible.  You can only measure things in this world we live in.
4019  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: September 25, 2012, 04:35:19 AM
If someone of another language runs up to you screaming for help, can you tell that they need help, even though you have no clue what they're saying?
Yes, because I am a normal, functioning within society human being.

I understand body language, speech stress, pantomime, and other such non-verbal cues.

Non-verbal cues have been around since before speech. It isn't karma, it isn't energy, it's knowing how to interpret those non-verbal cues.
It's both.  Body language, verbal tone, feelings, energy, all one of the same.  Have you ever felt love, Monster?  Or power?  There's a very distinct energy associated with those.
4020  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: September 25, 2012, 04:25:58 AM
Think about it - if you put out negative energy, it effects everything it interacts with.  Energies spread.  If you're constantly putting out bad karma, you form your own behavior pattern of negative energy which is pretty much always associated with feeling negative.  If you spread positive energy around you, your neighbors, wherever you go, whatever positivity they have gained from it will be put back into the world, possibly to you.

What is this "karma energy" made of?  At what frequency does the energy propagate?  
  
It's energy, feeling, love.  I can't tell you the frequency, but I can tell you it's real.  If someone of another language runs up to you screaming for help, can you tell that they need help, even though you have no clue what they're saying?

So, your definition of karma is the ability to read tone and body language?
I didn't say that was karma, it's the spreading of energy that lets you feel what others are feeling.  Which supports karma because as I explained earlier, all energies spread off each other, everything effects everything.  Put out good energy around you, receive good energy.  Put out negative energy, receive negative energy.

So body language and tone are the energy that creates karma?
That is not quite what I said, Rarity.
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