Of course, then there is the true meaning of the thousand years. The thousand years is a figurative term. It started about the time that Jesus died and arose. This is when Satan was thrown into the abyss and it was locked and sealed over him.
Jesus is the angel spoken about in the Revelation that does this. He did it by His death and resurrection. My guess is that we are near the end of the "thousand years." We are getting to the point "As in the days of Noah ... ." Babylon in the Revelation is the banking system and the governments that work with it - read the description. Satan will destroy Babylon and burn her with fire. The people of the world will help him.
Satan can do the destruction of Babylon because he is back up from the abyss. The reason he is allowed back up is because the people are asking for him (indirectly through their denial of God). Also, he is back up to be taken to the lake of fire, similar to the way a condemned criminal is walked from his cell to the execution chamber.  |
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Of course, then there is the true meaning of the thousand years. The thousand years is a figurative term. It started about the time that Jesus died and arose. This is when Satan was thrown into the abyss and it was locked and sealed over him. My guess is that we are near the end of the "thousand years." We are getting to the point "As in the days of Noah ... ." Babylon in the Revelation is the banking system and the governments that work with it - read the description. Satan will destroy Babylon and burn her with fire. The people of the world will help him. Until you understand this, you will have a hard time recognizing how the whole thing unfolds. The lake of fire includes everything in this universe being reduced to their basic substances so that the energies will be returned to God. This includes eternal souls. "... where their worm [what's left of the soul] does not die and their fire is not quenched." This can be done over a period of time that we know as eternity, because even eternity is a thing that is limited in the realms of God, even though it holds an unendingness for us. |
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What happens to the wicked upon death?
The same thing that happens to the saved...
they die, they cease to exist.
Unless there is a resurrection, then they will be dead for all of eternity.
Now for the saved, their resurrection takes place at the second coming.
Interesting study on what that is all about.
For the rest of the dead, it takes place 1000 years later, than they face the judgment.
And another interesting study on what this is all about.
But a thumbnail sketch...
Now for the saved...
it says very plainly, every man shall die and then comes the judgment.
For the saved, the baptism is a symbolism of death.
1st Peter 4:17 their judgment takes place after the baptism.
They are judged by Jesus.
The rest of the dead, as said above, their judgment takes place 1000 years after the second coming.
These are judged by God.
Now what is the judgment?
What is he judging?
How long does this judgment take?
Actually it's incredibly fascinating how this all works...
now what is the punishment?
For those who do not make it through the judgment, the punishment is death, they die.
And their punishment is eternal, it is the second death and there is no resurrection from the second death.
That does not mean they live for eternity in a hellfire.
It says they die and they die for all of eternity, they will cease to exist and they will be completely forgotten.
It will be as if they never existed.
A way to think about that is, there have been approximately 100,000,000,000 people that have lived on this planet.
How many of them do you remember?
Even in your own family tree?
a few thousand in the history books?
As time goes by, they will be forgotten.
After their death, their bodies will be thrown into the lake of fire...
what is this lake of fire?
From the strong concordance...
valley of (the son of) Hinnom; gehenna (or Ge-Hinnom), a valley of Jerusalem, used (figuratively) as a name for the place (or state) of everlasting punishment: - hell.
In the time of Jesus, this was the city dump, always burning, it is where the criminals bodies were thrown etc. etc.
What is fun with a lot of this is people change the words, it says it is an everlasting punishment, it does not say it's an everlasting punishing, the punishment is eternal.
They're not continually punished, they are punished once and for all.
It also states their bodies are thrown into this lake of fire.
So they are dead already when their bodies are thrown into this lake of fire.
Eventually this fire will go out.
Now in contrast, it is stated that Jesus will throw the false prophet and the beast into this lake of fire alive.
They will not receive the mercy of being put to death first.
All of this takes place upon the earth...
Satan and his fallen angels, they are put to death, yes they die. They do not have eternal life, they have inherent life.
Meaning they live until they are put to death.
Humans do not have inherent life.
This is why the gift to those who come up in the first resurrection, at the second coming, they receive the gift of eternal life.
It is something we do not have.
And that gift will not be given to a person of corrupt thinking...
just because you are baptized and you believe you are saved does not mean you will make it.
Now a lot of people think when the judgment of God takes place, he will be reading off what they did in their human lives.
That's not what happens.
A person that is not saved, God considers them dead, there is no record kept.
Matthew 8:22 (starting point)
So when a person is resurrected into the judgment of God, their judgment is just beginning.
Acts 17:31
now when this takes place, belief and faith are no longer relevant, because everyone will be able to see God and Jesus, the Saints, the Angels etc. etc.
And there is no longer salvation...
in essence they live another lifetime, and they are judged in righteousness...
and what is righteousness?
Psa 119:172
Just remember, Jesus said wording to the effect of, "... where their worm does not die and their fire is not quenched." |
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Wicked guys gets sad after death. Good guys stay happy  Wicked guys lose Good guys win Anyone joining btcmazism? And i am Saint Maze and thee shall be happy Version 2: Good guys will become humans Bad guys will make up the rest That will explain population explosion Version 3: Opposite of version 2. Actually, when it says in the Revelation that there will no longer be any sea, the sea that it is talking about is the sea of people who have all kinds of religions and philosophies. At that time there will only be people who believe in God... no more sea. |
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God created evil people to throw in hell. Kind a sadistic guy. I wonder if he also tortured puppies as a kid! Hmmm this God why would he created the evil?
God didn't create evil. The devil created evil when he created destruction. In an effort to create freedom, God created free will. In doing so, he gave us and the devil an aspect of Himself. Right now, if you have a knife with you, you can take it and plunge it through your arm. Most sane people wouldn't do this kind of thing without a very good reason. However, some sick people might do it and think that they liked it. God warned Adam and Eve to not eat the fruit. The devil convinced them that they should. They did it freely. Does this make God a producer of evil? Hardly. Suppose God hadn't given us free will. We would be like robots, like the animals, destined to follow instinct rather than freedom of choice. Don't blame God that you are doing almost the greatest evil possible, ignoring the existence of God. It won't hurt God. It won't hurt me. It will only hurt you. It will be worse than stabbing yourself with a knife. The thing that will make it really bad for you is that you have been warned, but choose to go on your willful way anyway. Yet, nobody is going to take your freedom away from you. Why not? Because you wouldn't be you without your freedom. And God had hoped you would use your freedom in better ways. |
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Two scientists walk into a bar...The first one says “I’ll have some H2O.” The second says “I’ll have some H2O too.” Then he dies.
Actually, drinking H2O2 straight might kill you if you drank any more than a tiny sip. But if it were straight, not diluted, it just might eat through the mug before you had a chance to drink it. Regular, store-bought, peroxide is 3% to 6% strength in water. Food-grade peroxide is generally 35% in water. FG peroxide is generally best refrigerated, because it will gradually lose its potency when stored at room temp. The extra oxygen will gradually slip off the peroxide into the atmosphere over months or a year. |
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Remember the old eGold company in the early 2000s? PayPal accepted eGold back then. After a little while, PayPal started suspending accounts of people who had eGold accounts. Lots of eGold users simply lost their money that they had in PayPal. eGold was a centralized ecurrency money transfer company. It was something similar to Bitcoin except that it was centralized. The feds took it down like they took Liberty Reserve down under claims of money laundering. They would take Bitcoin down, but they can't without taking the whole world down. They are trying to do this. The little point is, I wouldn't really trust PayPal for any more than tiny amounts of money that wouldn't harm me if I lost them. The big point is, personally I think that PayPal is a government "stooge" company. I don't trust them. I just queried egold.com. eGold is completely gone. |
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Illegally perhaps, but not unlawfully. "Illegal" has to do with some statute or constitution. "Unlawful" has to do with harm or damage to someone or his property, or breach of contract. I'm not a party to the laws and constitutions. If you try to force me into it, you are harming or damaging me. In the common law countries of the United States, Canada, Great Britain, and Bangladesh, if you are being harmed by someone trying to force you into obedience of statutes that you are not a party to, you can beat them personally under common law. See: http://www.myprivateaudio.com/Karl-Lentz.htmland watch the videos/audios at the right. |
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Illegally perhaps, but not unlawfully. |
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Let me give you the answer that everyone should have given and must give if they are honest with themselves: We don't fucking know, we don't even know what happens after death in general, never mind people we would generally consider 'bad' anyone who claims otherwise is just making it up.
Yes, but, this is something that you believe, just like those who know about things of faith, KNOW IT. |
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Seems like these "be all end all" scam cures.
Usually scam cures are promoted by folks who are making a lot of money off their scam products... or at least trying to. MMS is reasonably inexpensive. It's source product, sodium chlorite, can be found in may places, cheaply; Google it. Jim Humble and his main people are not making money off the product; rather they are losing money on the product, itself, promoting it. This product works. There are loads of testimonies. I will add my simple testimony, that MMS did good for me - I use it regularly. You are right to be cautious. But, like Bitcoin in the financial realms, MMS works in the health realms. The reason that it is not as popular is that, everybody loves money. |
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They will be saved through God's grace in last days!
Usually the term "wicked" refers to people who do not believe in the salvation that God provided through Jesus. A wicked person who has come to faith in Jesus, MUST change his ways at least a little. If he won't change, he is placing himself in the dangerous position of maybe losing his salvation. |
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I dont get this. What about those doctors?
Those doctors are curing many of the disease that the medical can't, or only claim to be able to control. Mostly they are doing it by nutrition and exercise... lifestyle. See my topic at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=774990. |
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I dont understand why they take naked picture..
Many, many Americans, and people of the other developed nations, have a couple of diseases called "lust," and the second, "lewdness" or "lasciviousness." |
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Let me start by talking about hydrogen peroxide. There's a reason. Please be patient. One of the most powerful, natural bacteria and virus destroyers is hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) commonly called, simply, peroxide. You can get a diluted form of it in many stores, including Walgreens, Walmart and Target. Why is peroxide so powerful? Because it easily breaks down into water and single atom oxygen (O1). O1 is highly radical, chemically combining with multitudes of other chemicals, even in small quantities. Because of this, it chemically destroys bacterium and viruses by combining with their living processes. There is danger for plant and animal life, and humans, also, since in larger quantities, O1 can combine dangerously with their living processes as well. All kinds of info about H2O2 can be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_peroxide, and a brief, here http://www.encognitive.com/node/1260. As an aside, one of the place that H2O2 is made in nature is in the upper atmosphere - http://falconblanco.com/health/supplements/hydrogen.htm. Presently, there is not enough moisture in the upper atmosphere so that enough peroxide can be made for it to be effective in killing off excess viruses and bacterium in the air, and on the earth. Yet it does this to some extent, thereby purifying nature to some extent. It is my personal thought that if we had a little more global warming, we would have more water in the air, more H2O2 on the land, and greater health all around. The better health would come from fewer harmful bacterium and viruses in our lives. Medical expenses would drop at the same time. The point in talking about peroxide has to do with the thing that it does. What it does is to oxidize chemicals. Bleaches do the same thing, but in different ways, and often not as radically as peroxide does. And, this is where an important, mild bleach comes in. That bleach is chlorine dioxide (ClO2) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine_dioxide. A focal point in the Wikipedia article is right at the beginning of the article: "... potent and useful oxidizing agent used in water treatment ... ." Chlorine dioxide as a water treatment can be found, among other places, here: http://www.lenntech.com/processes/disinfection/chemical/disinfectants-chlorine-dioxide.htm. The pertinent wording is: "Drinking water treatment is the main application of disinfection by chlorine dioxide. Thanks to its adequate biocidal abilities, chlorine dioxide is also used in other branches of industry today. Example are sewage water disinfection, industrial process water treatment, cooling tower water disinfection, industrial air treatment, mussel control, foodstuffs production and treatment, industrial waste oxidation and gas sterilization of medical equipment."Back in the mid '90s, a man named Jim Humble was prospecting along the jungle of Venezuela in South America, along with several other people. A couple of the others came down with malaria and were dying. Mr. Humble successfully treated these guys with water that had a much larger amount of chlorine dioxide in it than was recommended for water treatment. You can start reading about Jim Humble here - http://www.projectcamelot.org/jim_humble.html - and here - http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/salud/salud_miraclemineralsupplement.htm - and here - http://jimhumble.org/biz-intro.htm - http://jimhumble.org/biz-intro.htm - and here - http://miraclemineral.org/ - and, for direct info from Jim Humble and his people - http://mmsnews.org/. Of course, Google "Jim Humble MMS."Basically, MMS is chlorine dioxide that is used in much larger concentrations in water, than in normal water treatment. According to Humble and his people, and hosts of testimonials, everything from cancer to accidental poisoning to tooth decay to eye irritations to diabetes, etc. are being cured by MMS. And this is the disease is CURED, not simply controlled, as standard medical treatments try to do. One of the popular treatments, as has been noted above, is malaria. Watch a video of the International Red Cross using MMS to cure 154 people in Africa of malaria in 2 days: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jY2yab0uLc. Or read about how a woman named Kerri Rivera is curing dozens of children of autism using MMS: http://cdautism.org/ and https://www.bulletproofexec.com/78-curing-autism-with-kerri-rivera-podcast/. Now that you have read this, what do you think? Remember when using Wikipedia. Anyone can put himself into a position where he can edit Wikipedia articles. Long ago Jim Humble wrote up an article in Wikipedia. After posting the article many times, others (probably working for the medical) have edited the article every time Mr. Humble put it up. Because of this, you will find that the Wikipedia article ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_Mineral_Supplement) contains downright lies, in an attempt to downplay and destroy the credibility of MMS and Jim Humble. After all, the medical can't make money off a substance that is as widespread among the people as chlorine dioxide. This is the same kind of thing that the bankers and the media are trying to do with Bitcoin, give it a bad rep. What do you think? |
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the financial world collapse is near
and that will mean the bitcoin era
This ^^ I sure hope so! I can foresee how there might be a fast collapse. If it is fast, I'm not sure that I can see Bitcoin going that big. Bitcoin needs to become well known BEFORE the collapse, or people will go back to gold, silver and barter first. If this happens, then Bitcoin might take some time to go big. On the other hand, if the collapse is somewhat slow, the people will have time to investigate their options. As they investigate, they will see that Bitcoin is probably the best option. I think that when the collapse comes, it will be fast. I sure hope Bitcoin will be well known by then. |
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The point is, how will Bitcoin fare in the collapse? Or don't you think that there is any collapse coming? I think Bitcoin is going to rob gold of approximately 80-90% of it's value within 5 years. I think Bitcoin will act as the safety net for every nation state fiat-scrip implosion over the course of the next 50 years, or until fiat scrip no longer exists, whichever comes first. I also don't think anyone can accurately predict when any given nation's fiat scrip will implode. But we know they all eventually will. No empire lasts forever. I used to buy silver, a little at a time, every month. I haven't been doing that with Bitcoin. But I should start. |
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