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4021  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Suggestion for Faucet's Owners on: December 07, 2016, 02:16:52 PM
I think you are speaking about this type of faucet .just try this link ----   http://s87.eu/net



Yes, but where is the faucet? I click on the link, see a blog, click on claim in page's bottom, and I'm redirected to a movies site.  Huh

This is what I am doing for my free lottery network - http://bitrevenues.com/ and http://freebitcoinlottery.xyz/. In the past before the letter was created, my user can only claim one free lotto ticket every five minutes. Now, my user can claim up to 2 tickets every five minutes. Not only does this attract more people to join the free lottery game, I also earned double reward from advertisements since I have two sites. Smiley.

Nice, but in this case you are operating in two different lottery sites, right?

I don't know if it would work, but couldn't you double your income from ads if you use two pages (or two sites) to make people claim double reward?

Example: paste a link here, when we click the link, we would be redirected to a page with many ads, next (maybe after 5-10 seconds), must click on a button to be redirected to the faucet page (with more ads, captcha and claim button). Doing this, can you double your income to pay higher rates to users?
Seriously ? let me know if you can claim for a month or 2 like this . I doubt that many users would like it on a faucet.
Also many admins will exploit member's patience so those 2 pages could become 4 or 5. And in the end page the faucet can turn into a pay per download (PPD) all kind of infected game/app cracks or suspicious software.
I prefer to Refresh or Reload the same page for a claim and to support admin in same time but not getting redirected to all kind of shrinking services (or not) which may lead me or naive kids into infected or phishing pages. So i won't be a member of such faucets even if they promise me 1000 satoshi/ 15 minutes.
Can you guarantee that the next (redirected) page is clean or will not install an infected cookie and such or is not a phishing page or will not bring a porn popup to a kid ? nobody can.

2 words :

 Totally disagree
or
 thumbs down .
I know you meant redirecting to an internal page but refreshing the same page is almost the same thing and this idea is already sustaining faucet games right now. In fact faucet games have menus which sends you on another page . Thats why faucet games lasts longer that a normal scrypt faucet.

Ok, thanks for your feedback about it.
4022  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Dwarven Bitmine - Earn some satoshis with that game on: December 07, 2016, 02:07:47 PM
I don't quite understand about the uses of upgrading the ores and resources other than the gold ores?

Can someone help? Thx!

Other ores are necessary to upgrade almost everything in game in higher levels.

You will need Gems, Mithril to complete your mine 100% upgraded!
4023  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Attraction on: December 07, 2016, 04:39:30 AM
What attracts you towards bitcoin?
I'm asking this because it could be different from person to person. Different people may like different aspects of bitcoin. So what do you like the most about it?

cause bitcoin is anonym, security and control bitcoin users are in full control of their transactions. bitcoin can be used as payment for providing payment via bitcoin
bitcoin is good for online transaction cause it is anonymously sent. But the badside of bitcoin their are less shops that are accepting bitcoin .bitcoin can be use on good things too like donating on a charity anonymously
As long as you are not using your bitcoins to buy illegal things then all the transactions that you make are in fact good, because you are helping the bitcoin economy by making transactions, you win because you obtain the product and service that you are looking for and the seller wins as well by obtaining a small profit.
The problem is there's no restriction here online, we can do either it's illegal or legal. Actually, most of the transactions online tha attracts the adopters are not legal and anything not legal is illegal but not necessarily wrong or might harm us, because it will only happen if we got caught. Just do it with proper caution to avoid problem.

Many people feel atracted for Bitcoins also because this currency provides a easier and simpler approach to the illegal world. We can't deny it, unfortunelly it really happens... The anonimously of the coin has advantages, but it brings some disadvantages like that.

But it doesn't look afect the Bitcoin enthusiasts a lot. As I observe most people here aren't worried about it, because the libertarian philosopy makes people don't worry about others actions and personal habits. Anyway, who buys illegal stuff with BTCs, still can have problems with authorities...
4024  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Satoshi vanished! on: December 07, 2016, 04:21:12 AM
No, you need to send a message to their support and see what they reply you.

Give at least the site link, so I can see if it's what I'm thinking (faucet). I tried yannick.biz, but no one site appeared.
4025  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin Gambling Investments on: December 07, 2016, 03:13:33 AM
This is a great idea, I liked the answers I got from the questions I asked and I might do a blog post on it. If you have any specific questions you want asked let me know and I will ask the admin.

The following questions seem to be appropriate:

1. What is their max win amount, and how does it change with the change in the size of the bankroll?
2. Is it possible to divest immediately, and if not, what is the grace period then?
3. What fees are charged for investing and divesting?

I have been following your thread for a long time and i have to warned that this investment on kingdice. With just 1btc invested can make up 7.5% of the bankroll, it seems like the bankroll is very small and the site does not have a strong rep yet.

But when it reaches the size of BetKing, you may already be too late to the party. I'm myself thinking about investing a small amount into their bankroll, something like 0.1 BTC, just testing waters. Let's see how it plays out in the end!

Good questions which I asked already (if you are reading this KingDice and I say something incorrect, please correct me):
1) 1% of the bankroll is max win. It changes dynamically with the balance.
2) Divest is instant with no fee or grace period.
3) 0 for divesting (but 50% of the next profits taken out weekly).


Thanks for the consolidated update in one post.

I didn't understood the third point. What is this meaning ' but 50% of the next profits taken out weekly " ? Divest can be done without any fee but what is this 50%?

Sorry for the confusion I didn't understand the question 100%. So there is no fee to invest or divest however the house takes 50% of the sites profits/loses and the other 50% is shared with the investors.

To invest there is no fee. When you want to divest, if you didn't invest for much time (short investment), you will need to pay a fee. That is in Crypto-Games. The house shares 80% of profit with investors, but will reduce to 70% now. I don't know about other casinos, but I will check yet and see if it's good as Crypto-Games.
4026  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Will Kill The Income Tax on: December 07, 2016, 02:14:36 AM
It's an ok article, but it doesn't really build upon the original statement all that much to be honest.

The death of the income tax might be a beneficial thing, but it is going to be interesting to see how this changes sales taxes. Considering that people no longer have a base tax on what they earn, and they can save a large majority of it if they wish, chances are it is going to be an interesting way to fix the system.

Bitcoin killing the income tax heralds one of two things, a minimalist government form (increased libertarianism) or a more totalitarian or intrusive government.

Everybody expects a more minimalist government with more freedom for all, but if we don't pay taxes, we need better jobs with better salaries to be able to buy and hire all necessary services that we currently have ''for free'' in some countries. I never experienced a libertarian economic system, because I live in a junk bolivarian ~socialist~ country. But the expectations are good for a new economic system with more freedom for al, I hope this happen, so we can see something new and fresh.
4027  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If bitcoin died tomorrow on: December 07, 2016, 12:29:32 AM
Well, if it would happen, it were be a very sad thing... But, I'm sure if it happens anyday, another crypto-currency will take its place and we will continue making our online deals, but using another main currency. Many people would lose their money value, because a big part of it would be in BTCs, a big loss for many and new opportunities for others, that is the walk of life...

But there is nothing to worry about it now, BTC has a lot of success to make yet, the prosperity BTC is giving to its users is just beginning! The chance this hypothetically situation has to happen is near to 0!
4028  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Suggestion for Faucet's Owners on: December 07, 2016, 12:01:37 AM

I been using this on my faucets in the past.
Yeah .. the users bookmark the faucet url and they acces it every time (or they insert in rotators & bots) when they are able to get the free Satoshis.
They don't care about any other page of your website.

Isn't there a way to make the page automatically redirect to the first one if they try to skip to the claim page? And they can't go to claim page until they view the first page for about 10 seconds. Or in this case, a login page should work, just don't know if login system can redirect one site to another.

If people want to continue claiming on faucets and earn decent rewards, they must start caring about this...
4029  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin transactions - Slow OR Fast on: December 06, 2016, 11:00:28 PM
is it possible that bitcoin will be accepted in local stores, shops etc. since transactions are to slow and customers have to wait until their transactions are verified. And nobody wants to wait.
 Can transactions be seeded up to save customers time or any other way to use bitcoin  at local stores.
yes bitcoin transaction is very slow but i think it's better because ensure it's really you or not .and your approval transaction


Transactions are instant. So. Ya. The @OP worded it incorrectly. Confirmations take time but the transaction itself is instant. Did you know credit cards take day/weeks to confirm transactions? What exactly is a better, faster method than bitcoins? Send an appropriate fee and it'll be confirmed in the next block. If you're too damn cheap then you deserve slower confirmation times.
Correct bitcoin is still faster than most other methods of international transactions like Western union, or banks transfers but I think that most people want of bitcoin very fast transactions especially if we are to move to the mainstream and use it everywhere.

But what the guy said in the first quote makes sense. Will the restaurants, stores want to accept Bitcoins as payment method, even if it takes some time to complete transaction? I think people can feel a bit uncomfortable about it.

Maybe the Bitcoin technology can advance a bit more and find a way to make the transactions faster to be completed, what do you think? Would this be possible?
4030  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you play Dice with Autobet? on: December 06, 2016, 10:12:52 PM
Sometimes I play manually, sometimes I use Dice. Using Autobet is more effective and it can help you to have more times to do other things. Currently, I only play manually when I have nothing to do and I want to have some fun by clicking and hoping and waiting to gain some profit.

The bad side of using auto bet is that you lose your control. I remember being on PrimeDice and someone had over 10BTC in their account and once the best went out so fast that he couldn't even have the reaction to press Stop so he lost about 4BTC.

Auto-play can be dangerous if you don't have good reflexes to press stop fast. Another option for this, is to use casinos with feature to configure the bot with ''play each x time'' feature, so you can set roll each x milliseconds, I know on Crypto-Games we have this option, it's very useful, depending the method you are using to bet.

If it's a risky method, set roll each more milliseconds, if it's a safer method, set roll each less milliseconds.
4031  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: HaoBTC Standard Hashrate Exchange (Hash-Ex) is launched! on: December 06, 2016, 09:46:30 PM
The point is not just difficulty increasing , its about how much hashrates devaluates and how much you make meanwhile. If you make more Money with hashes during that time than the hashrates devaluation that means you are still in profit but if the hashrates devaluates faster than what you make than you are losing in your investment. So it is not about hashrate difficulty or anything , its about the difference between them.

But hashrates devaluation is a consequence of mining difficulty increasing, no?

If the mining difficulty increases fast, the hashrates devalues in the same proportion, so we make less income and probably, we don't hit ROI.
4032  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: MY gambling strategy to limit loss and make btc on: December 06, 2016, 09:39:55 PM
I change my strategy to lose less and i know that this is good so far i lose approximately about 0.02 yesterday and i just played to day in some gambling site and bet in some sports game i made estimate of 0.1 bitcoin so far and this is really good for me. If you lose stop and try another day to try your luck.

make 0.1 bitcoin is a big money to win from bets sporting and gambling site and not many from us that could make in that amount. and i am agree with your advice about if you lose, stop and try another day to try your luck.
Yes stopping gambling right after a loss would save many further losses. We need to control our emotions when we are facing loss at the very first time itself. But gamblers will not accept the losses and they want to recover that within that day itself. A good gambling strategy must be always about stopping gambling as early as possible.
Stopping gambling for a day will delay your losses and it will not ensure your better stay in gambling by any means.

A better gambling strategy in my experience must be quitting it, yes quitting gambling will solve all the gambling problems and will lead to a better life.

If you quiet gambling forever you won't lose more money, but won't have the chance to earn too.  Smiley

Losses are a part of gambling game, it's normal, the gambler just need to control himself and manage his bankroll to don't lose it in one day or in few minutes. I suggest to play only for 1 hour daily or less, maybe 30 minutes. If in one day you tried to make profit, and didn't achieve it, just quit the game and back tomorrow. You are right, it doesn't decrease in 100% the chance to lose, but thinking in probability, it will give more chances to don't crash the bankroll.
4033  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: best online btc wallet on: December 06, 2016, 09:29:43 PM
Main wallet that i still use as of now is coin.ph which is exclusive only in my place the 2nd online wallet but i already experience of problem is coinbase..
Because they are blocking or locking account once if you are using bitcoin in gambling casino i experience of delay transaction but it is ok since they are giving a wallet without a fee and many people are using..

coin.ph looks a good wallet for Phillippine people.

I see many people complaining about coinbase because this issue with gambling sites that they forbid users to send money to gamble. But it's a good wallet anyway, you can use it just to another things, like exchanges, faucets, receive payments from tasks... And use another wallet to send money to gamble. Coinbase worth because they have no fees.
4034  Economy / Securities / Re: Pig Farm Investment. 5 % Monthly. Has been running for 6 months. on: December 06, 2016, 08:42:56 PM
You guys deserved to lose your money if you have been an intelligent investors a pig farm is not possible to give you a monthly payment.   Grin
Glad this turned into scam already.

Lol ok let's not exactly go that far. I wouldn't blame the victim per se, but yes it was pretty obvious. The problem is people thought be cause he actually owned pigs that somehow the high rate of return was achievable. If I start a potato farm and tell you I'll give you 200% ROI in a month you'd be asking me how do you could start your own potato farm lol.

If it's too good to be true it most likely is. This is exactly that situation. The early investors got s few payments and then all of them got screwed. Don't incest if there's no way to get your money back. He can't give you a pig if you live on the other side of the world (not that you'd want one rofl).

That is not the only reason why people invested. He showed a video with a farm pig structure, some pictures also of the farm progress. It wasn't like any other Ponzi scheme with unreal promises and no proofs. 5% monthly can be real and he promised to pay the income relative to the investment cost in dollar. Example: if someone invested 1 Bitcoin when the BTC was in $600, he would pay $30 monthly until the end, doesn't matter the BTC price variations.

Offering 5% monthly (assuming simple interest) is the same as offering a 60% return on investment. If you think that's realistic then you're very naive. If I was running a legitimate business I would offer maybe 5%, 10%, or 15% interest and negotiate from there. I would never give someone 60% interest because I'm not a fool with my money.

Obviously the @op isn't either as he just made payments until he had enough 'invested' to run. Sure he has a pig farm. I have no doubt in my mind. But offering 60% return from the beggining is obviously too good to be true. Why not just go to a loan shark? Oh that's right, because when you don't pay back the loan shark you'll have your kneecaps broken.

Let this be a lesson to anyone reading. Even if it's a legitimate business that doesn't mean high returns are still possible. Who's to say he couldn't get a loan from a bank because he's 100k in debt already? Or he has terrible credit because he doesn't pay people back?

Don't you believe someone can offer 5% interest monthly? It's not impossible. 60% YEARLY isn't an absurd amount.

So you 2.5% interest weekly is an absurd too, because on month it will be 10%! And I see some people offering this amount of interest weekly. OP could work the first year just to build his farm and to pay the investors (if he were a honest person), in the second year he could start manking profit for himself, because the investments were already paid.

Sorry, I think naivy is who thinks too small that can't believe 5% monthly interest is very possible and I would say reasonable...

Look what @op offered. Look what people got in return. Greediness led to a huge loss rather than a modest gain. No business can afford a 60% interest rate and if they can, they're in the money laundering business. Case in point though of course is this thread. It was (and still is) unrealistic and naive to think 5% a month is a modest return.

We are talking about animal business. Depending your area, your food supplies, your knowledge and will, you can make this profit (5%) or more monthly. It's not like lend money to banks and earn little profit over it, it's not passive income.

You are working with it, probably all day long, feeding the animals, looking if it's all ok with them.

Once you bought some animals, you don't need to buy more in the future, if you know how to take care them. They will give birth to more animals, and this way, multiplying your animal breeding.

The guy in this thread taking the money from investors would pay interest only for 1 year. The first year is time to build the farm, and not to make profit for himself. Again, he could use their earnings of first year just to pay investors.

You say it's impossible to pay these rates (5%) monthly to someone, but some banks are taking these rates when they lend money to farmers and another people trying to create their businesses. If they can pay the lend tax to banks, OP could pay the investors, his farm could generate enough income to pay everybody... But for some reason it didn't go well. We don't know why, but I'm sure it's not because he had to pay 5% monthly to investors.
4035  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Skrill now lets you upload money via bitcoin on: December 06, 2016, 08:29:01 PM
Some days ago I saw a thread about it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1699023.0

But looks they just accept it informally via neteller or any other service offering itself as middle-man to complete the transaction. Do Bitcoin option appear directly in Skrill site for you? I can't see this. Or that is why what I said above, or because my country doesn't accept this.
4036  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: New BTC faucet (100 to 200 satoshi) on: December 06, 2016, 08:12:03 PM
Wrong section, move this to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=212.0 (Micro Earnings Section).

Your faucet isn't good at this moment. You are using a free hosting service, it doesn't work. You should buy one, it's cheap and won't hurt if you really want to run a decent faucet. I suggest you NameCheap. Give a look on google!

Good luck.
4037  Economy / Securities / Re: Putting 10 BTC to good use on: December 06, 2016, 04:22:45 PM
Most people do really believe on this thing which trading is a good investment which you could able to make decent or more money but its not really easy to achieve and as you said it would really need proper knowledge and experience in able to be profitable with it.Lossing money on trading is just a normal thing because of price volatility and must be careful choosing shitcoins.

I think the same. The risk when trading is high, there aren't strategies working 100% there. You can "read" the graphics, try to find a sequence to create your rule, but who knows if what you predicted will really happen?

What traders say is that on long run their strategies always work, not always, but on the majority times it works, same thing that sport's gamblers say. In my opinion trade and sports gambling have something in common, and I don't think it's possible to live only with this income. Maybe you can try, but I'm sure it will be a life without stability.
4038  Economy / Services / Re: Clouding mining on: December 06, 2016, 04:07:49 PM
OUR PRICES

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Total scam, more shameless than HashOcean, this scheme is offering ROI in less than one month. Impossible to be true and of course, it's not a cloud mining because they don't have any equipment mining for them, only false words trying to lure some fools.

I suggest nobody to invest on this service, Ponzi, HYIP for sure. And considering their rates, I would say this scheme won't last for much time...
4039  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Dwarven Bitmine - Earn some satoshis with that game on: December 06, 2016, 04:01:17 PM
I really hate shortest links, constantly getting javascript popups and automatic downloads of shitware on one of the two machines I use.

Well thats one way to monetize traffic, and start collect some funds to in the future be able to pay all members, i do understand you and i do understand admin need funds to develop the game further as well to manage it and pay the members.
I thinked those would damage the mine op, thats why i got scared when i say those sugestion being into consideration and into the list what to do.
Admin will be paying 6000 satoshis when you upgrade your mine for full, its something that admin can pay to all at the moment, as the game grows its expected to the rewards follow the same, as long each one of us does make the support as well. Sure several new features are being taking into consideration, and well this is faucet that will require a bit of your time or some investment, nothing new at all.
Ouc mrcash i knew you will be jumping to 40 gold hour now the question is how much cost the last gold ore?

Last gold ore will cost you 580.000 gold and 8000 iron.

The rewards are low now because the ads income isn't sufficient, DwarvenMines need better traffic to add MellowAds and any other good network. Many suggestions were give, now let's see what admin will apply to the game and how long it will take.  Smiley

Well isnt that much i thinked it would cost 1 milion gold or above anyway this month all are able to grow well and a lot with the double gold feature.

Yes, isn't that much, but it's because the game was programmed to has more upgrades (gold ores and dwarves), but admin decreased the number of upgrades allowed, to make the game self-sustainable. And if we see, we don't use Gems and Mithril to upgrade gold ore too, in the "original" version, we could go a bit more longer and use another ores to upgrade, maybe admin can raise it in the future.  Smiley
4040  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: NEW BTC GAME - VIRTUALPUB - Official forum on: December 06, 2016, 03:06:06 PM
Update - 6.12.2016

Until 31.12.2016 you will see in your pub one christmas tree with drunk Santa Smiley
You can claim from this temporary card every 24 hours once - and you have chance to win 100,200,500 or 1000 satoshis every day Smiley



Enjoy, and keep claiming Smiley


PS: If you don't see this new card, please press F5 and refresh the VirtualPub webpage...
Also BAR level 1 is needed to see this card

Thank you tomos81, appreciate this bonus, it will help to upgrade faster our pub.

I was thinking we could earn 100.200.500 (1.002 BTC) every 24 hours with this card.  Cheesy
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