Of course, Moses murdered that Egyptian before he was called to lead the Israelites out of Egypt.

It has to do with the need and the attitude of the heart. Murder isn't right, but neither is idly sitting by and letting someone murder you.

So, is killing someone in self defense or defense of your family, when he is going to murder you or your family member, really murder? Just be sure that his intent is to murder.

One dark moonlit night a cowboy was sleeping in a hotel room, a luxury he wasn't often able to afford. In the middle of the night, something awakened him. In the dim moonlight streaming in through the window, he saw a hand rising up at the foot of his bed. Carefully he reached over and picked up his revolver, and shot the hand. He still limps, to this day.

We often initially believe things that are not the truth.

Many people think there is more than One God. The reason is that we have so little understanding about the complexity and operations of the universe. Our universe is so extremely complex, that even if there were many gods putting it in place in a form of creation, they would have to act as ONE to avoid inconsistencies that would have kept it from being brought into existence. Hence, ONE GOD.

God always existed. What this means is, the place where God lives is so extremely different from this universe that there is no way to compare anything in this universe with God's Heavenly Home. Even the notion eternity is something of this universe. God doesn't need eternity to exist. Eternity is simply a tool that He uses. However, we are so weak that eternity is something great for us, just like life.

Regarding God's vengeful destruction he does of the nations, see: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=734119.msg8315130#msg8315130.

See: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=734119.msg8315130#msg8315130.

See: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=734119.msg8315130#msg8315130.

Well, actually, in the Garden of Eden, after Adam and Eve sinned, and God was walking in the Garden in the cool of the day, guess what form God was walking in, since God is a Spirit? He was walking in the form of a pre-Incarnate Jesus. Whenever you see the term "the Angel of the Lord" in the Old Testament, you are looking at Jesus, Who is God in human form, even though He was not yet born to do His work on the cross.

Judgment by God is based on reality.

The entire universe was set up as a perpetual motion machine, based on certain universal laws. The basic, number one universal law is, "Love God above all things." The second is, "Love your neighbor as yourself." Only God understands how it works clearly.

Adam and Eve were the first to break these two basic laws. All others follow in their footsteps. The only One who kept these laws was Jesus. He could do so because He was sent by God and with His power. This is also the reason that Jesus could restore the perpetualness of the universe long enough to find out which people are on God's side and which are against God.

People should be destroyed immediately following some "sin" that they do, the first time that they break one of the two universal, basic laws above. They are not destroyed because God has forced love and mercy into the universe through Jesus.

When God waits patiently for a nation to turn to Him, is He wrong in withdrawing His support from them when, after a long time, it becomes evident that they will not accept His support and do what is right? He owns it all! His judgment is done in righteousness and truth, and in long suffering and patience. Those who carry out the destruction of ungodly nations, do so at the command and behest of a righteous God.

God judges the nations according to His conditions. Why? He created it all. It is His right. He is the only One Who can do it justly because He is the only One Who knows what everything is all about - 42. Be afraid. God is the only One Who understands what it is all about. Seek Him and His forgiveness. You will be fully rewarded because He is a God of love.

God's whole idea is to save people for Heaven and eternal life. God has given the nations time to change and to align themselves with Him so that they will be saved. Rather than follow what He attempts to discipline them into, they reject Him. It is THEN that He instructs believers to destroy them, only after the nations will not change.

There are two major benefits to the destroyed nations for their destruction. The first is that, why should they have children that they will train in their ways, so that their children are destroyed as well, and then their children's children?

The second is, why should God let them keep on defying Him. Such defiance will bring punishment in the afterlife. So, if a person in a destroyed nation has built up personal defiance of God for 25 years rather than for 50 years, God will only have 25 years of defiance to punish him for in the afterlife, rather than 50 years. So, God is really doing them a favor by destroying them.

There is ONE great area that throws both atheistic belief, and God directed belief, into turmoil. It is the ABSOLUTE fact that has been proven over and over by science, that neither scientists or non-scientists know anything beyond the basics around us. The proof lies in the fact that science has not been able to cause anyone to live more than 100 years or so. God-religion hasn't been able to do this, either.

And if you say, look at how our lifespans have lengthened from that of, say, only 100 years ago, you are misleading yourself. If you look, you will find various peoples around the world, peoples from any past age that we have record of, right up to the present, some who live to ages longer than we, and some who live shorter lives than we.

Science has done little to improve length of life. Why? Because the universe is so extremely complicated that scientific research has a long way to go to even really grasp how life works in detail. And if they finally understand, we don't even know for sure if they WILL be able to extend life. We simply aren't far enough along in knowledge to know for sure. This having been said, what is there to argue about? None of us knows on our own what is really going on in this universe.

The point is? The point is that since we are so limited in our understanding, and evidence seems to be that it will be a long time before enough scientific breakthroughs will be made so that we WILL have enough knowledge to understand anything, we need to look elsewhere for understanding about which religion is more accurate, atheism, State atheism, God, humanism, Emperor as god, whatever.

One thing is clear. People need/want religion. And anybody who thinks that atheism is not a religion, doesn't really realize that his ignorance is so great that he has deluded himself into believing that he knows way more about the operation of the universe and life than anybody actually knows.

Where can we go for more info, since science isn't providing it? Religious writings/books, the writers of which might have written as philosophy, or they might have written under revelation from God Himself. Since scientists don't know it, check out the other writings. The list of religions can be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_text.

Remember, science does NOT have factual evidence for ages beyond about 4,500 years ago. All scientific expression that talks about the age of the earth beyond 4,500 years ago is guesswork. Why? Because the evidences that might suggest how old something is beyond 4,500 years, can be interpreted in ways other than the generally accepted scientific understanding. For example, the idea that the earth is millions of years old is, at its base, based on entire guesswork, potentially flawed interpretations of the evidence, and the honest scientists even express it this way.

Since science hasn't provided a clearly factual knowledge of the age of the earth, we can tell that they aren't providing factual knowledge about anything beyond that which can be proven right here and now by simple demonstration.

Find the philosophy or religious book that fits the facts. The one that seems strongest to me is the Bible.

Life can be fun. Yet we all have fear of the unknown, at least a little. Examine the religions to find knowledge, because science doesn't really have it. Atheism is a religion because we don't have facts that say that God does NOT exist. Atheists simply base their thinking on belief. Atheism is a religion.

You misunderstand almost completely.

This life is only for, maybe, a hundred years, but usually less. Following is eternity after the resurrection. Your proper belief in God in this life determines where you will spend eternity - a life of love and complete fulfillment with God in Heaven, or a life of continual dying in pain and agony in Hell.

One of the greatest reasons that atheists often have a good life is, the Devil has them already. He doesn't have to work at making their life miserable so that they turn away from God. Rather, he can spend his energies where they are needed, turning God fearing people away from God by making their life miserable.

The Devil is an enemy of God. He has lost the ages-old war with God. The mopping up is being done. His last stronghold is on earth. And he is using it to take down as many people of God as he can before the end finally comes, where he is tossed into the Lake of Fire, which is the dissolution of this whole universe into its component parts so that God can take His energy back, to use on things like the New Heavens and the New Earth.

People happen to be caught up in the middle of the final mopping up. And the reason science can't make heads or tails of what is happening is, they are unwilling to realize that there are such things as the Devil and God. They ignore most of the Reality Equation. The Devil wants it this way because, as the old saying goes, misery loves company. So, he pushes people every way that he can to make them deny God and become atheists, so they can't believe in God and be saved. It gives him more company.

What matters it to me whether or not anyone believes in God and is saved? It doesn't hurt me at all! But if you ARE an atheist, and you don't turn and look at the reality of God and the Devil during this life, when the truth is finally revealed to you in the resurrection, it will be too late for you to believe in God and be saved. You will find yourself thrown into the Lake of Fire along with the Devil and his buddy-angels, to spend eternity being destroyed in pain and anguish.

For your own good, wake up and see that this life was never meant to have anything "bad" happen in it at all. We were never meant to die. Death was brought about by people (Adam and Eve first) following the Devil rather than God, when he (the Devil) was thrown to earth during/after the battle for dominance. The Devil lost. God won. Our life here is the final chance a loving God is giving us, to turn to Him, and believe in Him so that we can be saved from the fate that awaits the Devil.

You atheists are completely throwing it away for yourselves.

Actually, everybody has religion. Essentially, a person's religion is what he believes. And what he believes is reflected in what he does. Formal religions are simply massed groupings of folks who believe similarly in some major ways.

As far as the religion about God, the evidences for God are all around us. For example, a tree. Nobody can make a tree. The marvels of its life and coming together and procreation are too great to understand, to say nothing about making one. Yet modern science is learning about how trees live and procreate. Science is showing us that trees (and all life, really) are like fantastically complicated machines. Machines have makers.

The maker of life is the thing that we call God. We call Him God because that is the simple word that the dictionary gives the attributes of someone able to make all the machinery of the universe.

Now, if you tell me that this all came about by accident, randomly over millions of years, show me anything that can be shown that it was made greater by entropy. Yet entropy is the only real thing that is happening all around us regularly all the time. God, whatever He is, got this whole thing started using powers and abilities way beyond what it takes to keep it going.

If you don't like the dictionary definition of God, see if you can find another word that fits the marvels of machinery that we see in the universe around us. There really isn't any. God is probably the best.

Seems to me that we are focusing on Bitcoin in the wrong way. What I mean is, we need to focus on Bitcoin as a pattern for doing things, going places. We shouldn't be focusing on Bitcoin as the end idea, in itself.

Ask yourself again, what really is the only reason for Bitcoin. Isn't it so that we have a tool that we can use to more effectively do trade among ourselves, without giving a piece of our transaction to some bankers?

In other words, Bitcoin is there to help us barter among ourselves more easily, to amass wealth for ourselves in the regular way, by trading our labor and abilities for the various necessities of life.

There are two ways to amass wealth using Bitcoin. One is to provide an honest product and service, same as most of us do through our job anyway. The other is to leech and mooch off the labor of other people, like the banks and governments do.

So, how should we use Bitcoin as a pattern rather than as the focus, itself? Here's how. Let's turn everything that we trade among ourselves into a form of Bitcoin.

What I mean is, lets STOP measuring Bitcoin against and by the various fiat currencies. Rather, let's measure Bitcoin against everything else in life. For example:

An acre of land in Arkansas is worth 40 bitcoins; a small lot near L.A. is worth 40 bitcoins; an acre of land in Arkansas is worth a small lot near L.A. Notice how we have totally left fiat money out of the equation. Notice, also, how we have removed even Bitcoin from the picture.

The point is, lets program everything into its value with relation to everything else. An hour's worth of steel mill worker time is worth, say, 2 hour's of Walmart labor. Therefore, it will take a Walmart worker twice as long to work for the same refrigerator that the steel mill worker trades his time for.

Something like this has been started already. Consider that when you fly cross country, you can get online and find the price of a ticket for the various airlines, and the seating class on the plane, as well. Or look at the different online services that compare price and value for different products.

If we program everything in this fashion, using a Bitcoin-like free protocol, soon fiat money and the rip-off bankers will be out of the picture. Governments won't have the ability to bypass the people's transacting. Everything will return to the basic, honest free market, at least in general. Rip-off artists and cons will gain a reputation, and nobody will work with them. People will be able to store up wealth in the form of possessions or skills rather than fiat or bitcoins that have absolutely NO INHERENT VALUE WHATSOEVER.

I think that this should be our goal for living life, in the area of economics. Fiat would be gone. Bitcoin would still be there, but it would be used as an economic modelling instrument. Or as a plaything, so that people like us would have something to talk about on Bitcointalk.

So, what's next?

Atheism is a religion. Why? The atheist doesn't know for a fact that there is not God. He has to believe it, just like the religious person has to believe that there is a God.

When you put the info of science all together, you can see that this universe is way too complicated to even think about coming together by something called random chance ("random" is something that scientists have to postulate all kinds of theories about just to imagine that it might exist). Somebody Who is an extremely complicated and powerful God must have made it.

Science has shown us - even though many scientists won't admit it - that there must be a God. The reason that the scientists don't express it out in the open is because of political science - a science where you keep saying something over and over until people start believing it. The politicians behind the scientists keep on spouting atheistic garbage, because it helps them to make money. Say that there is no God enough, and some people will start to believe it.

Look at the evidence around you for the truth.

Bitcoin programming is kinda like having inside info.

Actually, karma is not real. What we call karma is really a God Who is so absolutely great, that He can react with each of us individually all the time, and all of us at the same time, including knowing EVERYTHING in the whole universe, and holding it all in place.

If you want to believe what they teach in college, so that we don't look for what is there and reasonably obvious.

Consider the river that powers the turbine to make electricity. We might direct the river a little, but we certainly don't cause the water to exist. The whole thing runs constantly. And if you do regular maintenance on the dam, the water keeps on flowing, all by itself. It might flow like this forever. So the turbines might make electricity forever.

Is it perpetual motion in the "pure" sense? Probably not. But we simply don't know enough about all the secrets of the universe to be able to tell for sure. Someday we might.

Yet, for all intents and purposes, in a practical sense, it IS perpetual motion. The rains have been coming, the waters have been flowing, for thousands of years. If people knew how to make turbines and generators 5,000 years ago, they could have. That's at least 5,000 years of perpetual motion!

You might be correct. There might be some little tiny thing we do to receive our bodies and lives. Maybe accepting them is really doing something. But the fact will always remain, without a lot of outside forces bringing us into existence, we just simply wouldn't exist. There's no way that we can make ourselves before we exist to do anything. So we got it free, free for us, at least. Somebody else might have had to do a lot of work, like God, for instance.