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40441  Other / Off-topic / Re: Observations on prayers and miracles? on: August 09, 2014, 08:20:37 PM
I think that God in different religions and tradition is the same being, just people had different understanding and thinking who is God, based on their cultural and spiritual foundation and development.
In every culture and nation, in the time of need and despair, people was asking for spiritual help and guidance.
This never change.

Of course it has change, now when we are sick we go to the hospital where there is specialized people in health-care, we don't call the witch-doctor or a priest to pray away the disease...

That's because we are too stupid to realize that we don't know anything at all about our future, even one second into the future.

Think about Hiroshima and Nagasaki in WWII. People were walking down the street, others were in bed sleeping, some were at work... they were simply living life - fighting the war. Then BOOM, and they were merely shadows on the sidewalk.

Did those Japanese people even imagine that something like that could happen? They couldn't even believe it AFTER it happened! It was too big. They didn't know even one second into the future what would happen in their lives.

We aren't any different. Oh, we feel like we have some control over our lives. But the credit goes to God for giving us some stability. If the Japs had had the true God in their lives, Hiroshima and Nagasaki might not have happened.

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40442  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Payza now accepting Bitcoin! on: August 09, 2014, 08:07:38 PM
I would say, watch out for Payza.

Do you remember when Paypal was new? At that time eGold was the big ecurrency. As Paypal was growing, they messed with a lot of eGold people's funds, and a lot of eGold people never got their funds back.

Something like the Paypal thing happened with Payza. I don't know if anybody lost funds at the time that Payza changed its name from Alertpay to Payza, but there certainly were some rumblings. Then, a little while back, Payza caused a lot of U.S. people to lose funds, by not alerting them about the handwriting that was on the wall, and warning their U.S. account holders that trouble might be coming.

According to Payza's own statements, they were doing U.S. transactions after their financing company in the U.S. had told them they were cutting them off. The finance company gave Payza time to wind down old transactions, but Payza kept right on transacting new transactions. Some U.S. people lost funds through Payza's non-conformance with their U.S. financer, to stop making new transactions and to finish up the old ones.

Did U.S. people lose their funds because of bad intent on the part of Payza? Who can tell for sure? But it was at least lack of good judgment on Payza's part. They knew for at least weeks (maybe months) ahead that their U.S. finance company was cutting them off, and they didn't warn U.S. customers or stop the new transactions that they made.

I'd say, watch out for Payza, especially if you are in the U.S.

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40443  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ecuador: The First Country to make it's own CrytoCurrency on: August 09, 2014, 08:06:54 PM
I would say, watch out for Payza.

Do you remember when Paypal was new? At that time eGold was the big ecurrency. As Paypal was growing, they messed with a lot of eGold people's funds, and a lot of eGold people never got their funds back.

Something like the Paypal thing happened with Payza. I don't know if anybody lost funds at the time that Payza changed its name from Alertpay to Payza, but there certainly were some rumblings. Then, a little while back, Payza caused a lot of U.S. people to lose funds, by not alerting them about the handwriting that was on the wall, and warning their U.S. account holders that trouble might be coming.

According to Payza's own statements, they were doing U.S. transactions after their financing company in the U.S. had told them they were cutting them off. The finance company gave Payza time to wind down old transactions, but Payza kept right on transacting new transactions. Some U.S. people lost funds through Payza's non-conformance with their U.S. financer, to stop making new transactions and to finish up the old ones.

Did U.S. people lose their funds because of bad intent on the part of Payza? Who can tell for sure? But it was at least lack of good judgment on Payza's part. They knew for at least weeks (maybe months) ahead that their U.S. finance company was cutting them off, and they didn't warn U.S. customers or stop the new transactions that they made.

I'd say, watch out for Payza, especially if you are in the U.S.

Smiley
40444  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ecuador: The First Country to make it's own CrytoCurrency on: August 08, 2014, 08:20:56 PM
Ecuador and all South American nations are civil law nations. This means that the governments of the respective nations can force their people - this side of complete rebellion by the people, of course - to do almost anything that they want. The United States is a common law nation along with most of Canada, and the United Kingdom. In the U.S. the people have already done the rebellion through the rebellions that the British people did over the last several hundred years, and through the fight for freedom when the United States was formed. This means that the people can legally do almost anything that they want, even to defy virtually any law the government makes. This is the reason it will be difficult for the U.S. government to legally fight Bitcoin.

Start you freedom from U.S. government persecution with these websites:

http://voidjudgments.com/ and the links at the page bottom

http://www.broadmind.org/

http://www.unkommonlaw.co.uk/

And this one is very interesting http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5duR4OvEHHxOSdEZhANETw

Read this one slowly and digest what it is saying to you http://educationcenter2000.com/Trinsey-v-Paglario.htm

Smiley
40445  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to win at the Forex. on: August 08, 2014, 08:06:06 PM
The way to make a small fortune trading forex on margin is to start with a large fortune.

Who needs a large fortune if you have leveraged trading??? Hell, it's the FIAT world, just borrow some money and trade the crap outta those forex markets! Leveraged trading really is only for people who know exactly what they're doing and realize they could lose everything!

Right! And since it has been shown in many legal documents all over the Net, that when you borrow money, you really are creating it, pay off your loss debt with modern forms of "accepted for value" (creating more debt to pay off other debt, http://educationcenter2000.com/accepted_for_value.html), and then go out and make another loan to do the Forex again.

Search on the words "accepted for value afv a4v" in the DuckDuckGo (https://duckduckgo.com/) search engine.

Smiley

EDIT: http://educationcenter2000.com/Secret_Banker%27s_Manual.pdf.
40446  Other / Off-topic / Re: FREE ELECTRICITY: Magnets Motor Electric Generators on: August 08, 2014, 04:44:46 PM
free something is always a scam

Wrong! Consider the most complicated things in life that you have. These include your body and brain and abilities, mostly things you received free. Even your parents had fun getting you going.

Nobody can replace your hand if you lose it completely. All the money in the world can't buy your hand back. It might buy a good artificial hand, but it can't buy one that is the same as the original. You got the original virtually free.

A house or a car, things that people can make, are not free. They cost money, and usually a lot of money.

How strange a universe we live in. The highly complicated things that NOBODY can make are given to you free. But the things that we can build cost money. How utterly strange.

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40447  Other / Off-topic / Re: Observations on prayers and miracles? on: August 08, 2014, 04:37:48 PM
If you compare the complicated machinery of man with the far more highly complicated "living machines" of nature, you can see that God exists, according to the dictionary definitions of God, that is. At the very least, nature is God, simply because the things of nature are many orders of complication and detail greater than the best man can do, although man is learning.

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40448  Other / Off-topic / Re: Observations on prayers and miracles? on: August 08, 2014, 04:26:54 PM
The believe in one god is rather primitive if you ask me. We all have a bit of essence, sadly many are disconnected that's why so many are willing to go back to their roots or are in search for who they are and where they belong.

I even believe that some people use their religion as some kind of legitmization of the wrong things they do. As long as they're firm believers and true to their religion, and pray regularly, it's okay if you do things that are illegal or not OK

It has to be One God. Why? Consider how many couples work together so well that there is never any problem at all. If there were more than One God, a universe this complicated could never have come into being because of the bickering between them.

Smiley

I think it is that way because many religions are based upon the believe that there is only one omnipotent god, who is the pinnacle of power. If there were other gods they would inherently be a threat to 'your' god or diminish his power simply by being as powerful as the original god.

All right. I guess I didn't say it directly enough. To reiterate...

This Universe is so complicated that even if there were a thousand gods, they would have to act so extremely as one, that there would essentially be only one God. Otherwise there would be flaws, disagreements, mistakes, etc., and the Universe would never have come into being.

One God is the only way it could work.

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40449  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why I Support Mars Colonization on: August 08, 2014, 04:21:19 PM
Oh, the excitement at the thought of being the first person to die on Mars !!!

Smiley

Ha, wow never thought of that! Do you think there might even be a race or contest to become that very person? You'd definitely have your place in the history books. But I think it's more attractive to become the first person on mars of perhaps the first one to maintain a long-term post there!

Why not? You gotta go sometime. Why not become the first to die on Mars? even if you have to go a little sooner than you would otherwise.

The dangers and unsurenesses and complicatednesses of the whole Mars project are so great, that to have any kind of real success at all, one need hold this dying as a goal attitude, just to make the thing successful.

Smiley
40450  Other / Politics & Society / Re: State Atheism on: August 08, 2014, 04:15:18 PM
All states are states of mind. Go to the boundary between any two States in the United States. If there doesn't happen to be any natural divide, like a canyon, or a river, that mark the border between the two States, and if there doesn't happen to be a fence erected by the States, how will anyone know with certainty where the border between the two States lies?

Sometime in the past, a bunch of people got themselves all in a "tizziful" mental state, and decided where the border between the two States was going to exist. Then they measured it out with transits, and wrote the whole thing down in books, so that they would have the record when their memories began to become hazy... when senility or Alzheimer's set in. So, we have the record of their mental state and we call it the border between two States. As time goes by, meanings of words change, so that the clear written records don't quite have the same meanings when we of the present age re-read those written STATEments.

State atheism is simply some writings about what some people believe. Because they believe it, and can't prove it any more than other people might be able to prove some other things that these other people believe, State atheism is a religion, just like State Theocracy is a religion. In a way, anything that people believe, especially if they cannot prove it, is a religious state in the minds of the people who so believe. When the beliefs are written down, and the whole nation adheres to them, they become a State religion. It's all a state of mind.

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40451  Other / Off-topic / Re: Observations on prayers and miracles? on: August 08, 2014, 03:47:14 PM
The believe in one god is rather primitive if you ask me. We all have a bit of essence, sadly many are disconnected that's why so many are willing to go back to their roots or are in search for who they are and where they belong.

I even believe that some people use their religion as some kind of legitmization of the wrong things they do. As long as they're firm believers and true to their religion, and pray regularly, it's okay if you do things that are illegal or not OK

It has to be One God. Why? Consider how many couples work together so well that there is never any problem at all. If there were more than One God, a universe this complicated could never have come into being because of the bickering between them.

Smiley
40452  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why I Support Mars Colonization on: August 08, 2014, 03:44:31 PM
On the other hand, the earth is quite big. Consider this. You could take the whole population of the United States (about 330 million) and comfortably settle them on 6,000 square miles of land. That would leave you several million square miles of United States land for you to use to farm, mine, and manufacture, and whatever else you might want to do with the land. Dig up the numbers, think about it, and you will see that this is so. Pollution calculations might be inflated and grossly misused by those who want to manipulate the thinking of the population for their own greedy purposes.

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40453  Other / Off-topic / Re: Observations on prayers and miracles? on: August 08, 2014, 03:30:25 PM
God wants you dead. Why? Because Jesus suffered for all the mistakes of the whole universe. And the biggest mistake was made by man when he neglected to give God the glory for creation. Man did this in the trust they put in the serpent in the garden when it (the serpent) told them to eat the fruit God commanded them to not eat.

So why does God want us dead, especially since He sent His Son Jesus to save us from death? Because Jesus was a man as well as God. As God, Jesus has the power to do anything. As a man, He had the ability to suffer and die as people do.

Now, think about this. If a mosquito bites you, say, on your right shoulder blade, what do you do when you feel it? You instinctively swat it with your left hand. When Jesus feels a sin that you do that causes Him pain, doesn't He instinctively want to use His almighty God power to get rid of the pain by damning you to Hell? But His mercy and love and patient endurance keep Him from doing it, sending you immediately to Hell. He wants to save you!

The point is, after you have tested Him over and over again with your continual sinning, which is causing Him continual pain, where is the point that the man part of Him will simply kick in and overcome the patience, love and mercy, and He will swat you damned to Hell. So, God wants you dead in this life, so you don't tempt Him beyond His patience, and He sends you to Hell. That way He can raise you, perfect, in the resurrection, perfect for and to eternal life.

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40454  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to win at the Forex. on: August 08, 2014, 03:14:36 PM
Bitcoin is more profitable than forex Cheesy haha

If I started with bitcoin today, show me the better profits.

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40455  Other / Off-topic / Re: Pictures from Russia. on: August 08, 2014, 02:58:23 PM


Quest For Fire.

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40456  Other / Off-topic / Re: Pictures from Russia. on: August 08, 2014, 02:55:06 PM
So many nice pictures from russia Grin

which berry is this? cranberry?


Raspberry.

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40457  Other / Off-topic / Re: FREE ELECTRICITY: Magnets Motor Electric Generators on: August 08, 2014, 02:51:15 PM
NASA inventor invents perpetual motion machine. China had it for 5 years now. See http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/160811-2014-08-07-huge-breakthrough-at-nasa.htm and watch the video. It doesn't point blank say perpetual motion. But that is what it is talking about. Are they going to let us power our houses and cars with this? What do you think?

Smiley
40458  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to win at the Forex. on: August 08, 2014, 03:02:13 AM
The reason for scalping is to take some of the edge off the fact that we don't know for sure which way the market is heading. The reason for hedging, and high Stops and low Limits is the same. While we can't predict, the market has always followed certain patterns and mathematical laws. There are other things besides direct predicting that make success feasible. Obviously, if everything went wild, like might happen at the time just before the big fiat crash that is coming, the laws of math that we use might not work for profitability any longer. Not saying that the laws would change. Just saying that there is certain stability and long-range predictability in the way the fiats work. Is this stability something that has been artificially added to the market by the banks, so that they can rape the nations? Probably.

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40459  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why I Support Mars Colonization on: August 08, 2014, 02:55:11 AM
Living only on planet Earth is like putting all our eggs in one basket. Imagine a global catastrophe like solar storm, viral/bacterial epidemic, asteroid,  super volcano can easily wipe the humankind. If humankind are dispersed in our solar system and beyond we have a high chance of survival for another million years. But sadly most of us don't think about this.

Nobody knows that the earth is millions of years old. There are alternate explanations for the scientific observations that suggest how old the earth is. The earth may be relatively young. Bible witnesses say about 6,000 years. NO science has any provable evidence for anything past the previous 5,000 years or so.

Go to Mars if you like. Probably man was meant to traverse the Universe at some time. But things are not as they should be since the time that mistakes entered the Universe, and man started dying. So, it won't be easy. Even with modern technology, it will probably be a lot harder than it was for Columbus to cross the Atlantic Ocean.

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40460  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why I Support Mars Colonization on: August 08, 2014, 02:47:49 AM
it would be funnie if there was a pizza place on mars, and you told them i traveled 225 million miles just for a slice

It wasn't so funny for the guy who paid 10,000 bitcoins for a pizza.

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