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4061  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Best way to earn Bitcoins? on: November 28, 2015, 08:53:43 PM
I have try faucet but is hopeless  get little cents / day
join signature better faucet and well let you learn from thread here , even you are newbie

if you using faucets you better use some rotator or create one only then you can have some decent amount from it


Even with rotator still talking about pennies per hour.  And mind numbing trying of capatcha.  It just is not a good idea and will not add up to a "decent" amount.

Create one is pretty low chance of taking off, already lots of people in a small and crowded business.  I suggest doing just about anything else over faucets, even waiting till full member on forum for signature beats faucets all day.
4062  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Cloud Mining - Please help a newbie on: November 28, 2015, 08:50:37 PM
Understand a little bit first like what is GHS and what is hash power, PM me anytime for any questions Smiley

I would suggest for someone new to post in here not PM someone.  And it's nothing against you.  Just in general PM's on cloud mining are more likely to try to slide in a referral vs what is best for person.

So feel free to post here... and get multiple people to anwser.   Don't go to PM for getting cloud mining info.  A lot of sites are crap is reason to be careful.
4063  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Review] Avalon 6 Miner - Winter Mining - Notlist3d on: November 28, 2015, 08:40:04 PM
here's what i'd try. unhook everything except hdmi.
flash this image: http://downloads.canaan-creative.com/software/avalon6/openwrt/latest/openwrt-brcm2708-sdcard-vfat-ext4.img

power up rpi and see if it boots.


I did that and nothing happened. I'm starting to getting worried.


Woo! It finally connected! Now cgminer can't detect miner... slow and steady wins the race Cheesy

Did you try the Image on first page - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1257327.0 or just the Ehash image?

It was made by BlockC to work with Avalon 6's,  it's what they ship with on  RPI kit.
4064  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: ASIC MINING - Newest hardware and the future on: November 28, 2015, 08:36:41 PM
I think more profitable trading than mining. I am sorry  if i am wrong  Grin

Your answer is generic. Low experienced traders tend to lose money instead of making them, moreover we have many types of trading, like many types of mining. Homemade rigs are long gone, it's almost impossible to make ROI with Bitcoin volatility and increasing difficulty.
My advice: if you are a "home miner", try something else. If you are determined to open a new farm, do your maths carefully, you could waste a lot of money.

I agree, but:

It's not all about the BTCBTCBTCTongue

If you can utilize the heat, home mining isn't that bad!
Beats a http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/8123-lyf16L._SL1500_.jpg anyday!  Wink

Part of it is about what you enjoy.  For example mining is a passion for me.  I truly enjoy it.  So I will keep on doing it.

I can see why not everyone does it.  But for many it works.
Yes all of you are right and i am wrong  Grin

With smilie I'm guessing your joking.   I have done very well mining, it can make ROI and pay off long term.  Is it for everyone ... no.  But for some including myself yes it is.

Your general idea about trading being more then mining has no basis behind it.  You could have more or loss and have less.  And say you really are that good you are making money most of time on it you can mine and trade.... that is what I do.
4065  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Mining good idea? on: November 28, 2015, 08:33:58 PM
Good evening ! anyone there ever mined in Scrypt cc ? I only have trouble getting .... Huh
There are many complaints about Scrypt cc not paying recently. I would not invest with them until the issue is resolved.

I still think their calculator looks to good to be true.  ROI in less than 2 months... seems impossible in current market.

What is real ROI time?  Has anyone tried mining with them, I'm curious if it's even close to 2 months?
There is no ROI with scrypt cc. There have been many complaints about the service being an scam.

I would suggest to stay away from that service.

I was running on no sleep for a while... turns out you miss things with no sleep.   The account posting is 1 activity so likely a shill of company.

But yes calculator is far to good to be true it has to be scam.  No one ROI's in less then 60 day's.
4066  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: How do you get free power? on: November 28, 2015, 08:31:25 PM
@ Vika NSFW Do you have the source for those Solar Mining pictures?

The issue I am intrigued to see an answer to is what do people do when the battery runs flat and the Sun's not out?

Do they just leave the setup to it's own devices, Sun comes out get's some charge and runs again? My concern is if the Miner takes more power than the panels can supply then the batteries will get no charge and the Miner will do a slow on  off cycle. Or do people include some sort of controller to allow the batteries to get half charged before mining starts again?


Rich

Can you not just copy the link from the picture. I tshoud be linked to an account other than the poster, or even a website that shows their source. Don't get other people to do what you can do for yourself (unless its cheaper!)

Each one appears to be from a different site looking at it when you quote it.  So I don't think it's from one source or one article.

If you don't have batteries you would cut down cost.  But then only get power during sun.  Also it is still high compared to cheap electricity batteries or no batteries.
4067  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Nov 23 to Dec 7 Set up stage- Picks Open! on: November 28, 2015, 08:25:51 PM
+10.2 please Smiley

Please everyone post in format from first page (Thanks  to all already doing it! ).  It is much appreciated in being able to copy/paste into list.   For example the quoted post should have been:
+10.2  = cakir

Below is updated list:
+8.6   = Herbpean
+9.2   = edonkey
+9.8   = vortexz
+10.0  = Tupsu
+10.1  = zebedee
+10.4  = adaseb
+11    = mavericklm
+12.3  = EternalWingsofGod
+10.2  = cakir
+10.6  = DanDan
+10.8  = ingiltere
4068  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Nov 23 to Dec 7 Set up stage- Picks Open! on: November 28, 2015, 12:50:41 PM
thanks for adding me.does this have a prize or something for the winner ?

Thanks to suchmoon and the ones who let their prize roll over yes.  Espically suchmoon on the prize.

17 blocks  or 2.5-3 hours to go until picks open. If we learned anything from the last time - let's not rush all at once Smiley. Picking your guess towards the end is likely to be more accurate.

The prize this time is

0.216 BTC

due to rollover from the previous contest and both philipma1957 and alh donating their winnings from the quick quiz (0.008 each - I rounded it up from 0.007-something). Thanks guys!
4069  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Nov 23 to Dec 7 Set up stage- Picks Open! on: November 28, 2015, 10:12:04 AM
+9.8 diff = vortexz

You have been added to the list - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1260927.msg13090875#msg13090875 . Good luck!

To try to keep thread looking a little cleaner I will post when I add people and where the post is it was added  to.  I won't always post list as if I post the entire list 10x or more a day you will have to read through it and it kinda get's in way of speculation and good conversations.  I will also keep the 3rd post on first page with a link to most recent post of numbers.
4070  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Help !! a bitcoin newbie :p on: November 28, 2015, 10:08:19 AM
guy i want to buy a antminer s5 1th/s
and i want to know how much bitcoins will it generate for me ? + ( what the hell is a difficulty ,? )


What is price the guy offered you to sell it for?  What is your electricity price (include taxes or any fees in it) per KW.    Does the country your in have a VAT/Import tax?

As far as difficulty read here: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Difficulty

4071  Other / Archival / Re: REVIEW: Pros and Cons of different Bitcoin Storage methods on: November 28, 2015, 09:24:11 AM
According to your list this cannot happen as these DEA agents no doubt were military grade hardware and site.... but it did.  No way of storage has zero risk.
  

What do you mean by this, I dont understand what you are telling me here.

This will be my last post as I don't care to post in this thread and bump it up.  It should be changed from storage methods to Malware Threats as you say that is what your focus is.... but to each his own.

Read the article with it you missed a very important part by not reading. It is DEA agents with military grade equipment, and secret clearances doing bad things.  They took BTC so... the point is as long as the human factor and greed is there there is no 100 percent safe storage.  So you thoery about "Military-grade" being 100 percent safe is flawed.

I suggest changing thread title to Malare Threats, not Storage.  Paper wallets are a valid storage.  Hardware and Paper are great cold storage way's of storage but it all depends on the person and how they are using the BTC with what is best.

Don't post multiple times in a row in same thread in one day... one might think you are trying to push the thread to top of beginner thread.  So read the article I linked, and also the rules on bumping threads as this is not ok below:

Nov 26 - 2 post's in a row
11/28 - 2 posts in a row, 2 different times
4072  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Best way to earn Bitcoins? on: November 28, 2015, 09:10:01 AM
faucets for newbies and signature campaigns for anyone more used to BTC.

Faucets really are not that helpful.  You make cents per hour. You would be better off buying 5 dollars of BTC from a exchange and use that faucet time to learn something.  Its just insane how many people waste time then later figure out it's dust in a wallet for the most part.

The signature campaigns are really good down the line.  Wait till full member and they go up quite a bit in payment.  But they are best way if used right (IE you don't spam).
Cents per hour? That's a lot more than what I made when I used faucets to earn Bitcoins years ago. Honestly, unless you've got nothing to do and don't want to do much, then use faucets. They're pretty much useless.

That is on the high side.  There will be some that say but X faucet say's a huge jackpot! Hardly anyone wins a big jackpot on faucets.  

The sad thing is if you do the math you are losing money on electricity to do faucets.  Even if you used a RPi and monitor... still losing money.  It just makes no sense but some will always do faucets.  I cannot explain it.
Some people are generally in the same boat as I am in.. My GPU is obsolete and with the recent difficulty number that I saw while I tried Doge, LTC and BTC mining, my hashrate timed in at the approximate hashrate to be making roughly 5-7 satoshis a month.. With even low-paying faucets I would be making more than my computer could mine.. But yes, it takes more money from the electricity needed to run my computer the few hours it takes me to run my faucet rotations to only be making roughly 200-300 bits in that time, but still significantly more than I could make mining.. Of course, while I have made more than what is currently in my wallet, I currently have about ~.013 BTC in my collective wallet, of which each address was empty at the beginning of October. So yeah, not a lot..  Cry

You would have been better off spending that time learning some skill or something vs typing captcha's on a site for very very little pay.   I'm not sure what you enjoy but anything from programming to art.  There is a ton of skills that can be sold via the forum.  And as you learn your account will eveuntaully reach full member where signature campaigns pay decent and are good if used right.

Out of curiosity who is paying the electric bill?  As no one mining with GPU and doing faucets is profitable at .013 in over a month.
4073  Other / Archival / Re: REVIEW: Pros and Cons of different Bitcoin Storage methods on: November 28, 2015, 09:02:01 AM

How is paper wallet with private key not a "Bitcoin Storage method".   You store BTC on a address you have private key to.  Once you need it you can put private key into many different wallets depending on what's your favorite.

Yes that is what I meant. You said that a paper storage method is a method, but not in my list, because a signed data has to access an online PC to broadcast the transaction, which will happen in 1-9 ways.

So a paper wallet is irrelevant in this discussion, as I`m talking about PC security. Plus a paper wallet is worse secure than a hardware wallet, because both can be extorted from a person but a harware wallet atleast has access to the PC and its more practical.



The whole point of a paper wallet is that it keeps your private key (and BTC address) offline.  So it is stored on a piece of paper.   Your thread is about storage... not transmission.  And I'm talking storage in a safty deposit box or similar, not in a desk like one mentioned above.

I think leaving a big some on a PC is a bad idea for the most part.  And even military grade can have someone take BTC there is a level of trust at this level that a "bad  guy" can take advantage of just look at silk road where agents took BTC - http://www.coindesk.com/former-silk-road-dea-agent-pleads-guilty-to-bitcoin-theft/   So even military computers are not perfect as long as a human is part of equation.   According to your list this cannot happen as these DEA agents no doubt were military grade hardware and site.... but it did.  No way of storage has zero risk.
 
Your logic if flawed in my view.
4074  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Best bitcoin wallet on: November 28, 2015, 08:50:16 AM
I think that coinbase is a must to begin. Never had issue until now.

Depends on country.  Coinbase is good for US, but it's really not international like BTC.  Each country has exchanges that work best for it.  So it would depend on location.

Also coinbase is still a hot wallet.  I don't like that for long term storage.  And some dont like the KYC rules with them.  It does not bug me personally on KYC but some it does.
4075  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Best way to earn Bitcoins? on: November 28, 2015, 08:48:29 AM
faucets for newbies and signature campaigns for anyone more used to BTC.

Faucets really are not that helpful.  You make cents per hour. You would be better off buying 5 dollars of BTC from a exchange and use that faucet time to learn something.  Its just insane how many people waste time then later figure out it's dust in a wallet for the most part.

The signature campaigns are really good down the line.  Wait till full member and they go up quite a bit in payment.  But they are best way if used right (IE you don't spam).
Cents per hour? That's a lot more than what I made when I used faucets to earn Bitcoins years ago. Honestly, unless you've got nothing to do and don't want to do much, then use faucets. They're pretty much useless.

That is on the high side.  There will be some that say but X faucet say's a huge jackpot! Hardly anyone wins a big jackpot on faucets. 

The sad thing is if you do the math you are losing money on electricity to do faucets.  Even if you used a RPi and monitor... still losing money.  It just makes no sense but some will always do faucets.  I cannot explain it.
4076  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: ASIC MINING - Newest hardware and the future on: November 28, 2015, 08:44:10 AM
No game-changing ASIC out yet? Sad

What do you mean. The existing mining setup already work well and if anything super efficient came out, it would take no time at all for it to become the norm and no game changing would really be done.

It always depend on what your electricity cost is. That wont change.

Some people tend to say comments like that.  It has no basis, they always want the next best thing.   Compare last gen to this gen... it's a pretty big difference on efficiency.

But yes you can look into future and say "It's going to be better then!" or something like that.  And it's true, but it seems to me people who say like what hugs do are the type that just never buy new gear.  They will always justify it with there will be better.

As a miner I always want some gear running.  It would be a lot easier to sit on sideline and say it will be better next gen and let my coins set there doing nothing.  But I choose to try to expand my amount coins.
4077  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Any real Antminer S7 competitor out there ? on: November 28, 2015, 08:39:31 AM
S7 is a good choice but you need to factor in energy cost and how much it is going to cost you to run and then work out Diff increases, value of bitcoin, amount spent on equipment and how long it going to take to brake even and then gain profit. Right now with the massive spikes it is hard to say how long it will take to RIO and even next year with the next half of bitcoin It gonna be really interesting to see who continues to mine and who switches off as am sure more will turn their rigs off and diff will come down people will turn rigs on again. But we are approaching no return and Bitcoin needs to put in place some type of system that allows transactions to be processed without miners as if all turns rigs off or many start sopping it is going to take longer and longer to process transactions and send payments.

I think your getting ahead of ourselfs a bit.  I think there will be some big installs of Bitmain and Avalon (chances are some already done).  Eventually bitfury will jump in.... possibly sp50 someday, and BW's miner someday to.   

I think a awful lot of miners are in commercial settings where BTC will not slow down to much even if a lot of individuals hit power off.  I wish I had a percentage of home/hobby miner vs commercial.  But likely we will never have that.  Just look at difficulty last period and chances are this period more gear is coming online and old gear is staying online longer.

A lot of us were mining profitable at 230.... so after jump it will take a decent amount of big jumps to shut us down.   But I could be wrong.  I just think slowing down to point it hurts BTC transactions will not happen unless some huge loss on value.
4078  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Review] Avalon 6 Miner - Winter Mining - Notlist3d on: November 28, 2015, 08:23:21 AM
Okay you need an ip look up program.

If you are on a windows pc

Angry ip

Advanced ip

Are free down loads they can lookup the rasp pi

If you have router skills and know how to look up your ip addresses on the router. That also works.

Once you find the address to the rasp pi

Say 192.168.0.150. You sign in to it. Use chrome browser.  And type http://192 .168.0.150

First password is root. It is two sets of gui the advanced set is a lot like ant miner


Please understand you need to find your address most likely it is not 192.168.0.150

I picked it as an example address

I used angry ip and found 3 ip
192.168.0.1   192.168.0.2  &   192.168.0.6

I tried searching for them in google chrome and only 192.168.0.1 works. But that goes to my regular router webpage

Depending on what image your using it might in in IP range - 192.168.0.1.   I believe it is 192.168.0.100 on the image I'm thinking of.

I uploaded a image from BlockC on the first page.  It is DHCP so it will grab a IP within your routers range.  From there you can change it to static easily.  I like to pull up connected devices to router take screen shot... then turn on controller with DHCP and it's easy to see it's the only new address connected.
4079  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Nov 23 to Dec 7 Set up stage- Picks Open! on: November 28, 2015, 08:19:13 AM
This should be current as of now.  If I missed you or made any mistakes please say something Smiley

+8.6    = Herbpean
+9.2    = edonkey
+9.8    = vortexz
+10.0  = Tupsu
+10.1  = zebedee
+10.4  = adaseb
+11     = mavericklm
+12.3  = EternalWingsofGod

And good luck to all!
4080  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Nov 23 to Dec 7 Set up stage- Picks Open! on: November 28, 2015, 08:16:41 AM
+10.0  = Tupsu

So Far at this point:

-1.1     =  philipma1957
+10.0  =  Tupsu
+12.3  =  EternalWingsofGod

i think i wrote that i am not picking that and will wait to near the end to pick.

I'm sure I just missed it.  I will strike it off from there.
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