I don't know what to think. Most of the time when a site is so light that I can barely read it, all I have to do is highlight the whole page, and then it is readable. The http://bitcoinscrypt.org/ page doesn't work. So, I finally copied it and pasted it into a Wordpad doc. Now I can read it, but some of the site significance is lost. I need to go read the READ MORE.  |
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Seems to me that Wikipedia can be deceptive. Here is an example of what I mean. MMS, promoted by Jim Humble, is listed on Wikipedia at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_Mineral_Supplement. The Wikipedia report there suggests that MMS is dangerous. And that would be okay if it were true. So what is true? Who knows? But Jim Humble and his people report that it is curing all kinds of things. See http://mmsnews.org/, or Google "MMS Jim Humble." So, why hasn't Jim Humble made a Wikipedia page that shows the good that MMS is doing? Ages ago Mr. Humble did just that. But whenever he would write up the Wikipedia article showing all the good MMS was doing, an hour or two later someone else had edited it into something showing that MMS was bad. The point is, if Wikipedia starts using Bitcoin in a big way, we who help Jimmy Wales are promoting a lot of falsehood and deception right along with the good info. In other words, fiat currencies can be used for good or bad. But the major thing that they are being used for is to promote a centralized system that controls the economies of nations to the detriment of the little people. Wikipedia is being used the same way through the method that anyone can join and make changes to the articles there. I applaud Wikipedia stand against pseudo-science .You know what they say" If it walks like a duck, acts like a duck and sounds like a duck it's probably all quackery ".Lest we want another "success" story like Kevin Trudeau or (heaven forbid) Leonard Coldwell.Seriously, these scumbags faux medical practitioners and advice peddlers are are a a hazard to humanity. Almost couldn't have said it better myself. Look at the Bitcoin pseudo-science duck/quackery. The only reason that bankers don't use the word "Ponzi" with Bitcoin is that they don't even notice Bitcoin for the most part. Same said for modern medicine and MMS/Jim Humble. The evidence is out there for all to see. Donate bitcoin to Wikipedia, but get a second opinion to see where the pseudo-science duck/quackery lies. EDIT: Thanks for mentioning about Kevin Trudeau. Hadn't heard about him for years. Too bad someone who has so much good info, also has his share of larceny. Most of his info is available from many other sources. Much of it is good info. It would be interesting to hear a "translation" by a lawyer of the legal language of his conviction, into layman's terms. Often the media hides the FACTS, giving readers the info that they would like the readers to believe. And Wikipedia, of course, lists it as the media writers who have Wikipedia accounts write it. |
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Humanoid develops computers. Humanoid develops internet. Computers advance for 30 years. Satoshi publishes Bitcoin.
Greedy self-centered douchebags think they are superior for using something (poorly) which they could never replicate given twenty lifetimes.
Your air of superiority is disgusting, it's everything I hate about this community.
My original point was to be humble because you're a little fish in a big pond swarming with sharks.
I hope you lose everything you invest.
True humility involves being realistic in everything. |
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Don't talk about Bitcoin or other Cryptos to people who aren't involved.
Just don't.
That's terrific wisdom! Why? Because other people will get involved sooner or later. And the longer it takes, the more time we have to save up more fiat to buy more bitcoins before they go to $10,000 or $100,000. No, that's greedy. I say it more because people resent things they can't understand. Nobody likes the idea that there's somebody making millions for nothing while they are lost, running the track of a normal life. Also people by-and-large won't get it. Hell, tons of people involved don't even get it. Perhaps the majority. Think of it as a hobby, unless you're exceptionally lucky you probably won't make a million in a year. Good Luck. That's part of the reason that Satoshi developed Bitcoin. He resented the bankers, and he DID understand how and why the system works. Average folks resent things more, as you say, because they don't understand. That doesn't mean they try to do anything about it. Rather, they complain to their buddies at work, and go on being poor. There are a few, however, who DO improve themselves. When Bitcoin becomes the norm, and fiat fails, then those folks will get on board. But by then you and I will be extremely wealthy. So, let's not talk about it except among ourselves. Let's save up bitcoins for those few favored friends and family who won't do it for themselves. I don't like you. I'm honored. Thank you. |
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Don't talk about Bitcoin or other Cryptos to people who aren't involved.
Just don't.
That's terrific wisdom! Why? Because other people will get involved sooner or later. And the longer it takes, the more time we have to save up more fiat to buy more bitcoins before they go to $10,000 or $100,000. No, that's greedy. I say it more because people resent things they can't understand. Nobody likes the idea that there's somebody making millions for nothing while they are lost, running the track of a normal life. Also people by-and-large won't get it. Hell, tons of people involved don't even get it. Perhaps the majority. Think of it as a hobby, unless you're exceptionally lucky you probably won't make a million in a year. Good Luck. That's part of the reason that Satoshi developed Bitcoin. He resented the bankers, and he DID understand how and why the system works. Average folks resent things more, as you say, because they don't understand. That doesn't mean they try to do anything about it. Rather, they complain to their buddies at work, and go on being poor. There are a few, however, who DO improve themselves. When Bitcoin becomes the norm, and fiat fails, then those folks will get on board. But by then you and I will be extremely wealthy. So, let's not talk about it except among ourselves. Let's save up bitcoins for those few favored friends and family who won't do it for themselves. |
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Hello!
This is just for educational purposes. We know that Satoshi has an enormous amount of bitcoins and that he has not moved them for a long time. I think we also know the bitcoin addresses containing those bitcoins.
What if someone wanted to steal those bitcoins? They would need both the public key and private key of the address. I know that it would take an enormous amount of time but is this technically doable?
Also, would mining pools be able to push to their clients a script to find those public and private keys? These pools have nowadays an enormous calculation power.
The odds are almost infinitely better playing the lottery. But if you can do it, be sure to give them back, so that you can live with yourself. |
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Don't talk about Bitcoin or other Cryptos to people who aren't involved.
Just don't.
That's terrific wisdom! Why? Because other people will get involved sooner or later. And the longer it takes, the more time we have to save up more fiat to buy more bitcoins before they go to $10,000 or $100,000. |
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The best plan would be to migrate Bitcoin to the quantum computer when it first comes online. From what I hear, doing that would make it a whole lot safer encryption-wise, even from other quantum computers, and a whole lot more private. |
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Anybody have any words of wisdom for us? Anything bitcoin related in 2014. Help a newb out Wisdom: Don't trust anyone, not even yourself! Becoming a hermit might be a good idea except for the "not even yourself" part. |
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Seems to me that Wikipedia can be deceptive. Here is an example of what I mean. MMS, promoted by Jim Humble, is listed on Wikipedia at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_Mineral_Supplement. The Wikipedia report there suggests that MMS is dangerous. And that would be okay if it were true. So what is true? Who knows? But Jim Humble and his people report that it is curing all kinds of things. See http://mmsnews.org/, or Google "MMS Jim Humble." So, why hasn't Jim Humble made a Wikipedia page that shows the good that MMS is doing? Ages ago Mr. Humble did just that. But whenever he would write up the Wikipedia article showing all the good MMS was doing, an hour or two later someone else had edited it into something showing that MMS was bad. The point is, if Wikipedia starts using Bitcoin in a big way, we who help Jimmy Wales are promoting a lot of falsehood and deception right along with the good info. In other words, fiat currencies can be used for good or bad. But the major thing that they are being used for is to promote a centralized system that controls the economies of nations to the detriment of the little people. Wikipedia is being used the same way through the method that anyone can join and make changes to the articles there. |
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Seems to me that MaidSafe has done a lot of what it takes to encrypt and decentralize the whole Internet. And it seems to be free except for development of apps that ride on the MaidSafe system, for which they are asking 1% of the earnings for apps running on Maidsafe and earning income. Now 1% may or may not be fair. But here is what they have that May not be around anywhere else yet. What they have is that they are ready to go right now. A few parts of their program may be in Alpha, but most of it is in Beta or later. General usage is free. A currency exchange could be built on top of their system. By its nature, it would be encrypted. And on top of the MaidSafe encryption would be the Bitcoin or other currencies' encryption. The exchange encryption would be on top of it all. Margin accounts could be added and be automatic. It would be extremely difficult for governments to stop it without disrupting their whole communications systems. Once this system is set up, banking as we know it will be a thing of the past. I haven't used MaidSafe, yet. I have it downloaded; haven't installed it. But I am sure there must be those that are running it right now. To my way of thinking, MaidSafe wouldn't be effective until a lot of folks were running it. The only reason that Bitcoin took off as well as it did was that there is "money" and profit built right into it. The profit in MaidSafe isn't direct profit. It would be seen in app sales, or in usage profits, which are indirect. But... an entirely active, worldwide MaidSafe would make privacy and stability of the Internet to be a whole lot better. And, to my way of thinking, it would make the automatic exchange(s) way more private, and virtually foolproof until the arival of the quantum computer. |
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In the MaidSafe cloud, a piece of the hash here, a piece of the hash there, and you with the only key(s) to connect them all. |
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There's a little 1-second bite in the first video that says that Bitcoin is bringing democracy to the world. This is BAD. Democracy means majority rule. If you are in the minority, you might not like majority rule. Bitcoin is not democratic. It is not majority rule. It is everyone for himself. It is learning how to be responsible for your own actions and freedom, or you might lose to a Bitcoin thief. Bitcoin is the laws of nature being enacted in mathematical form to grant freedom, not democracy, to everyone in the world! Hmmm...so how does the Bitcoin protocol determine its rules? The rules have been determined by the devs and Satoshi. They are strictly followed by the client, according to the laws of nature for math and electronics, etc. People are developing all kinds of other coins and things that resemble Bitcoin. But, because they are different, they are not Bitcoin. At this stage of the Bitcoin game, if anyone wants to actually change the Bitcoin programming so that it acts and reacts with the whole blockchain and with all the versions of the client already out there, he is going to have to be very careful, or it won't work. If someone develops a quantum computer, for example, he might be able to add new rules to those already in use by Bitcoin, and change the whole structure of the Bitcoin operation. Quantum computers in every household just might make Bitcoin anonymity a real thing. |
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...how can there be any fraud, since anything goes, because there isn't any complete "perfection" as yet, and it is all a risk that folks have wildly jumped into?
Users of Bitcoin do not have their own special moral category; the warning that comes with bitcoin refers to the technology itself failing in some fashion, not the people who use it. It's fraud under the following condition: fraud (frôd)
n.
1. A deception deliberately practiced in order to secure unfair or unlawful gain. Which is precisely what double-spending is. Thank you. But it made you think, didn't it? Now ask yourself, is government fraud? |
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There's a little 1-second bite in the first video that says that Bitcoin is bringing democracy to the world. This is BAD. Democracy means majority rule. If you are in the minority, you might not like majority rule. Bitcoin is not democratic. It is not majority rule. It is everyone for himself. It is learning how to be responsible for your own actions and freedom, or you might lose to a Bitcoin thief. Bitcoin is the laws of nature being enacted in mathematical form to grant freedom, not democracy, to everyone in the world! Democracy is run by the minority, not the majority. The majority are their slaves  Actually, the thing that is called democracy, is really an oligarchy. "They" tell us it is democracy, just to make us think that we have something to do with it, just to make us think that we have freedom. But, your point is well taken. |
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There's a little 1-second bite in the first video that says that Bitcoin is bringing democracy to the world. This is BAD. Democracy means majority rule. If you are in the minority, you might not like majority rule. Bitcoin is not democratic. It is not majority rule. It is everyone for himself. It is learning how to be responsible for your own actions and freedom, or you might lose to a Bitcoin thief. Bitcoin is the laws of nature being enacted in mathematical form to grant freedom, not democracy, to everyone in the world! |
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On the other hand, since Bitcoin is only BETA - even though it seems to work well - and since most Bitcoin users know that they know very little about the underlying process that makes Bitcoin work, and since many in government and the media have been suggesting (often loudly) to watch out for Bitcoin, and since we all know that there might be many different "things" not thought of regarding the Bitcoin processes, how can there be any fraud, since anything goes, because there isn't any complete "perfection" as yet, and it is all a risk that folks have wildly jumped into? Now, if it goes through the courts, then will it be fraud if the courts say it is? Or is it only fraud in that case if you want to believe the courts? |
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Or, you could be like the NSA.
Or would doing something like this invalidate some crucial part of what makes bitcoin relevant in the first place? One needs to be very knowledgeable, very intelligent, even very wise to determine which things COULDN'T be done. If there EVER was any fear of NSA tracking, how about going the MaidSafe route? Maybe not with MaidSafe itself (though I don't know anything wrong about them), but at least with their idea. Implementing Maidsafe wouldn't necessarily eliminate the standard Internet. At least not for a long time. But it would start to make tracking more difficult. Seems to me that things like Bitcoin would be the easiest things to track in the face of MaidSafe. The best benefit we would derive from complete anonymity would be that people would start to take responsibility for their own lives. Thieves might win temporarily, but in the end, they would lose their position as trustworthy. This is the problem right now with governments and banks. They appear trustworthy, but we are seeing that they are not and have almost never been. The things we need for good trustworthiness are the things being done by Bitquick, LocalBitcoins, Bitcoin-otc and the escrow like that from Blockchain.info. That's all we need, plus the common sense gained from personal experience, or from mentor guidance. |
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Bitcoin is its own cop. Places like Bitquick.co, Bitcoin-otc, LocalBitcoins are all we need, along with places like Blockchain.info who provide escrow. EDIT: All those porn pictures are disgusting. Most (if not all) were paid to pose in fiat, and not bitcoins, right? |
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