It is a nice design, it has some similarities with our design, but we are not competing with your project. Your project has some unique features that are very special (the unique names is a great feature and adds a lot of value)
Instead we are focused on issuing a value based piece in high quantity that can be used as barter in perpetuity without removing Bitcoins from the market, requires no trust (not even needing to trust the issuer that they haven't already spent an embedded bitcoin) and one that maintains the same anonymity that you might expect from the change in your pocket without any special procedures.
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So you simply agree that you attached message to your payment and not being able to do so would be real PITA. You could probably workaround this issue but hey, why don't just fix it?
The simple reason is that you don't fix accounting compliance matters in the currency, you put those fixes in accounting software. The accounting software stores all the additional fields that are important to it as a part of the transactions. Then the small business quickbooks software, can send a payment to the larger company SAP software (which has to contend with multi-jurisdictional compliance issues) which further issues payroll in 11 different countries. The fact that there isn't a currency that does GAAP compliance on its own may be because GAAP rules change, and currency is not meant to change, it is meant to be stable. The surest way to get a project to fail, is to try to make that project do things that it ought not be doing.
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They don't ignore it, even though they might try. To analyze "pure" capitalism, one has to ignore the state's influence. The problem is that what one winds up analyzing, by ignoring the state, is an independently oppressive, albeit incomplete picture of what capitalism is.
There you have it. That may be the essence of your disagreement with them. Your claim is that capitalism is basket of things that includes states. Their claim, (which is inherent in their very name), is that capitalism can exist without a state, and that this would solve the problems that you have in the capitalism basket.
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Nothing is voluntary with a gun to your head. There are factors at play, the omnipresent state, that youre ignoring. Capitalism in a stateless world is like Serfdom in a landless world. By the way, Im pro monarchy.
This suggests that you would not oppose those AnCap fellows, if only you believed it were possible. But you believe instead that Capitalism requires a state so there can never be such a thing as an Anarcho Capitalist geography? I oppose it because I believe it is impossible. Capitalism analyzed ignoring state power (which requires analytic gymnastics) still results in oppression and coercion. I can't claim to speak for the AnCaps, but I think they do not ignore state power in any way. Rather they seek to make state power redundant or obsolete, and to separate the influence of capital upon state power. By your description of the oppression and coercion inherent in naked stateless capitalism, it seems you often mean what most might call enticement. The rights of violence is the monopoly of the state.
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GAAP compliant necessities cannot be achieved by "quickbooks" or any other higher software using BTC in its present condition. Via BTC, for example, the always needed reason of payment cannot be written and transmitted from sender to receiver.
This reason for payment record is the responsibility of the compliance software. Not the responsibility of the currency. BTC as a (normally quite simple) payment system should and easily could provide the (simple) basics needed for professional money transfers.
Easy or not, it is the wrong place to solve that problem. Compliance regimes vary with geography, jurisdiction, and time. The burden of them must be tied to those compliance regimes, not to the currency, even when the currency is software. The fact that bitcoin goes further toward making compliance easy than any other currency existing, does not change where the responsibility rests. GAAP compliance software is the place for it. The same is true for PCI compliance software, FINcen compliance software, and the plethora of other local and regional regulation authorities. Not all compliance regimes are even compatible with each other. If currencies were responsible for all compliance, a global currency would be forever impossible.
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One of the largest contributors to bubbles is credit. I would argue it was not the CDOs, in and of themselves, but the cheap, easy, and freeflowing credit.
Couldn't agree with you more. Hooray for the Fed and the Bernanke Easy money covers over a lot of problems. Junk bonds were only paying 5-6% and were selling well. Now that money is starting to tighten, the game is going to change. We are going to start to see those problems poking through the paper.
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There are many GAAP compliant software packages. These deal with the unit-of-account issues which are always needed in multi-currency systems. There are losses in currency translations which can be similar to how it deals with bitcoin. The "missing fields" are not the problem of bitcoin, but of the GAAP software, these fields are also missing on dollar bills. So the GAAP software package rewrites which include bitcoin and other alternatives are going to be available sooner or later. It is not an impossible challenge, and needs nothing added to the protocol.
No, there neither is nor will ever be any GAAP compliant software for current BTC. One simple Example: There is not even a "Reason of payment" field usable by the SENDER of money. It's simply impossible to remedy all the deficiencies of the lowest level at higher levels. Very, very bad that there are no financial experts explaining basics to bloody laymen worshipping BTC with its cash/change and other nonsens like a golden calf. Is your claim that quickbooks can never be used to make payments with BTC because if quickbooks puts a reason of payment in its ledger it will somehow break bitcoin? Or are you completely misunderstanding my proposal as being one where bitcoin is changed to accommodate GAAP rather than accounting software be expanded to accommodate bitcoin?
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You could imagine jobs that teach you nothing. We can call that toil. Payment for toil makes folks resist automation. Those jobs require automation, not human toil.
The labor union might resist, but why would the toilers resist getting a better tool? Those tools tend to make fewer people more productive with less toil, often followed by increased payment in competitive markets. Payment for toil is a signal to the market regarding which jobs require automation. It is both an easier to measure and more accurate signal, than whether the worker is learning something, to determine automation priorities. Why progress in the dark?
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Nothing is voluntary with a gun to your head. There are factors at play, the omnipresent state, that youre ignoring. Capitalism in a stateless world is like Serfdom in a landless world. By the way, Im pro monarchy.
This suggests that you would not oppose those AnCap fellows, if only you believed it were possible. But you believe instead that Capitalism requires a state so there can never be such a thing as an Anarcho Capitalist geography?
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In jobs that can teach you something, you might as well be an intern. The civil agreement put forth by employers is the only option for toilers unless you can figure out how to thrive outside of it (which we should). I don't consider the fishermen slaves. That's a fantastic example of how mutual aid works. Captaining a ship with a crew is a-ok by me, yo.
Every job I've had has taught me something. The learning is the responsibility of the learner. The aware awaken, the sleepers slumber. The point being, when we lose the difference between the aware and the sleepers, society loses. That difference, often, is pay. Payment is a signal. It is information. When we lose information we lose something of value. a society that willfully destroys that, is not going to be at an advantage to one that retains it unless there is something of greater worth to replace it. Present that counterbalancing social benefit and I will convert.
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In practice, what you describe is the exception to the rule within a state capitalist framework. Dependency on employers prevents many from ever coming far enough out of debt to do what they want. I have a hard time with equating pay to exoneration or choice because reliance on any paycheck does not let you all the way out of the state or capitalist's control. Pay is giving a man a fish and assuming he has means to stockpile fish until he can learn to fish.
More nonsense. Pay is giving the cabin boy a fish out of the day's catch, he learns to fish by observation and participation in the trade of the fisherman. His increases in the skill of the trade increase his value to the captain of the boat, and also his pay. Eventually his wages exceed his need, and he can save up to buy his own boat from the boatmaker; or simply convince the boatmaker of his creditworthiness based upon his reputation as an experienced fisherman and crewman, in which case the boatmaker secures an ongoing source for fish for his own family's table. Every step without coercion. Employing an unskilled laborer is both giving him a fish for a day's work, and teaching him to fish. EDIT: Pop Quiz! What is the capital in this context? The nouns.
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Here is your proof, I just sent a Bitcoin to 1BitcoinDiesWithSHA256As0f09062013 and will spend it in less than 24 hours. That would mean that I successfully broken up SHA256.
I will give you all 24 hours to sell all bitcoins and avoid a major loss.
- Lophie
Timer removed. End time: 2013-06-10+3:00:00UTC
Nice try, but even if that was a valid address, it is not SHA256 that secures coins. It only is used to confirm blocks, not to sign transactions. Dude -_-!, Go along with a nice joke when you find one, I wanted Elmer FUD to have a good "I told you so" moment before we all pee on him with laughter and shrugs. The subtle humor of the address was a delight. and the count-down is precious. Thank you for that. Another tax on people bad at math is Darwin's 21's century gift to the cognizant delivered by santa l0phie.
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In practice, what you describe is the exception to the rule within a state capitalist framework. Dependency on employers prevents many from ever coming far enough out of debt to do what they want. I have a hard time with equating pay to exoneration or choice because reliance on any paycheck does not let you all the way out of the state or capitalist's control.
Pay is to coercion as exoneration is to execution. This does not in any way suggest that pay is equal to exoneration. Pay is merely a civil agreement to perform for compensation so no it does not let you all the way out of state control, this is not its promises. However it very well may put you all the way out of any particular capitalist's control, if by control you really mean enticement. Pay is giving a man a fish and assuming he has means to stockpile fish until he can learn to fish.
Taking the example of the fisherman. I had a tenant that would fish in Alaska during the season, so I know just a little about it. I do know he would work dangerous and difficult 18 hour shifts for weeks at a time with no break. All the fishermen would get a share of what the boat catches and they pressure each other to be excellent, and the boat captain and owner gets extra for risking their equipment. After each season he would then take some months to relax, vacation, and enjoy himself in the city of his choice around the world until he ran out of money. Then he would go back and fish again. He is a good fisherman. Some of his friends worked several seasons in a row and together bought a boat. He now works for them. All of those people have choice and voluntarily made that life for themselves. They are friends, and each are happy, though they are no longer all on the same side of the employee/employer relationship. None of them consider themselves slaves, even if you might.
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someone who works for free is also a volunteer. An office worker might not be a volunteer,
If work without pay is volunteer, and with pay is slavery, then we are in a place I've never been. Or heard of for that matter. If you replace "pay" with "coersion" it makes more sense. To own slaves, one needs to compensate them with food and housing, or some kind of "pay" that keeps them alive and one's slave. Pay has evolved in the time since serfs. To call modern wage slaves simply 'slaves' may be a bit of an overstatement, but it still rings true enough to get my point across. Anyone familiar with sharecroppers? Replacing pay with coercion is similar to replacing execution with exoneration. It changes the meaning to the polar opposite. One is force, the other is enticement. One is compulsion the other opportunity and choice. Consider instead that being an employee is the step after generalized schooling. It is that part of your training to be an entrepreneur, where you get paid to learn. Its like graduate school for those that want to do things rather than research. Those that graduate and become entrepreneurs can then engage in training their own employees.
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The value of a break on SHA-256/ECDSA far outweighs even the full market cap value of bitcoin
+1
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OP I have one simple question for you: why tha eff are you poking the bear?
It's not "poking the bear." The government isn't out to get us; I'm sure they would have done more to try and prevent Bitcoin trading if they were. You must be young because you're quite naive. Alright, what makes you think that the government is out to shut down Bitcoin? I don't want conjecture, I want a source or a quote. The government is some 22 million people. Some of them may like bitcoins, some may not. The different parts often don't know each other. To think that "the government" acts as a single entity, that is as naive as thinking that bitcoin acts as a single entity.
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OK, so maybe I'm not familiar with the term in a financial sense but to me "launder" implies cleaning. Switching one pair of dirty socks with another pair of dirty socks seems hardly like doing laundry.
The sock analogy might be useful but here's a summary of what Money Laundering means to the US IRS http://www.irs.gov/uac/Federal-Statutes---Money-LaunderingKnowledge of the laws in your own geography may be helpful in avoidance of trouble for yourself and those with whom you do business.
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