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4101  Economy / Gambling / Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ on: February 08, 2017, 04:25:47 AM
Betcoin still one of the greatest and trusted house, so why you reserve this bid for full member and greater???
Involve newbie in this process will give the Betcoin Ag the opportunity to get a label ambassador from the newbie position to legendary!!!
Betcoin will guarantee the engagement for a long period 😉

What I suggest! Betcoin Ag must Review the policy of the ad compaign service!
Regards

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

20 players in average is doubtless a sign of "greatest" and did not pay a crystal clear won 500 BTC jackpot is doubtless a sign of "trusted"!

Like war is peace and the sun is moon!
4102  Economy / Gambling / Re: Do not play at thegar.org: Scam site. on: February 08, 2017, 04:06:16 AM
i visit again the site and i see the site still online, i don't know if the site still scamming people or not, but if the owner is really serious with the project and want to continue then he need a lot of work to make it clear and give the statement to people that they are not trying to scamming people.
You mean statements like this?

Quote from: UR on January 26, 2017, 10:17:41 PM
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It's free game because owner get nothing from you. Откуда вы долбоёбы-шаровики лезете?

I can translate this words: Долбаёбы шаровики = beggar motherfuckers
4103  Economy / Gambling / Re: Can someone tell me what happened to BETCOIN? on: February 08, 2017, 03:48:06 AM
That's shit between jasonort and the gaming provider Betsoft. Has nothing to do with Betcoin really. They have a bunch of other gaming providers now too like Gameart and Ezugi, and live casino providers. I guess just avoid Betsoft jackpot games is my call. I just play poker and blackjack on Betcoin and try to avoid slots. The poker is excellent tbh.
And Betsoft blackjack is fine, huh?

Is betsoft blackjack rigged?
4104  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Play with CONSUMER PROTECTION SERVICE inclusive? on: February 07, 2017, 11:23:17 PM
In the first place. I consider most of the gambling sites illegal in my place especially right now. My main point of doing so sometimes is to experience the game and the site themselves so that i can provide any reviews. Tho this things a very far from hiring some ensurance of lawyers to feel safe because i my self dont gamble that much
Even if you do not gamble much, you could be lucky and win a larger amount? And if the insurance is even cost free, why would you care?

Gambling might be illegal in your jurisdiction, but the legal action would be in the jurisdiction of the gaming provider.

Lol. Then how can you protect your members in the first place if you yourself doesnt have an idea to the owner of the gambling site he was playing? Isnt it crazy to have an insurance service in which you couldnt get something? Are you willing to pay your user when they lose in gambling?
Who said I myself have no idea to the owner of the gambling site he was playing?

An insurance service in which you couldn't get something would be indeed crazy, but this is obviously not the case.

No, no insurance in this world is willing to pay legitimate gambling losses. But if players lost because of a rigged software, yes, then legal proceedings would be covered by the insurance.
4105  Economy / Services / Re: Get 5 BTC for proof who Game Protect scammed and for how much? on: February 07, 2017, 09:07:32 PM
LickMyAss has no proof, but meanwhile turned out as an attacker and liar:

BEWARE: Don't ever click on game-protect link, that is a click-trap. This is a warning!!
Don't deal with game-protect. She made a 5 BTC bounty but didn't want to escrow? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1769527.0
Don't be fooled.

@OP

Betcoin did a shady activity on jasonort winning a slot game jackpot. It was a closed case as of now.
Link that may help: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1517648.0
4106  Economy / Gambling / Re: Can someone tell me what happened to BETCOIN? on: February 07, 2017, 08:53:30 PM
That's shit between jasonort and the gaming provider Betsoft. Has nothing to do with Betcoin really. They have a bunch of other gaming providers now too like Gameart and Ezugi, and live casino providers. I guess just avoid Betsoft jackpot games is my call. I just play poker and blackjack on Betcoin and try to avoid slots. The poker is excellent tbh.
No, this shit is crystal clear between jasonort and the betcoin.ag scam, because

1) The operator of betcoin.ag is the contract partner of the players

2) Player logged in and played with the betcoin.ag casino client

3) Jackpot winner deposited money to betcoin.ag

4) The juridical not valid terms of service on betcoin.ag website do not state one word about that the Betsoft scam collect the jackpot contributions and is responsible for payment


Here is more betcoin.ag shit: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄
4107  Economy / Gambling / Re: Can someone tell me what happened to BETCOIN? on: February 07, 2017, 05:48:20 AM
Afterwards, they claimed jackpot could be not won during free spins, but the pay table did not exclude this.

More info:

Betsoft scam gaming software

Betcoin.ag extort 500 Bitcoins Jackpot winner for "settlement"

BetSoft Non-Payment of Jackpot


Their player base definetely decreased and they lost 40% in Alexa Global rank within 2 months!
4108  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | BEST NFL and EPL odds anywhere! on: February 07, 2017, 05:17:37 AM
I have been playing there for over a year. as you can see by my screenshots, I bet pretty heavy and have never had a withdrawal issue in the past. I think they either went all in on the superbowl on the wrong side or they planned a huge exit scam, they were offering huge teasers by email and on twitter right before the super bowl so I assume they are exit scamming! No idea until they answer
Why did you start playing (betting?) there?

They have a curious Montenegro license. Their licensor obviously do not care about anything, as they allow to use the Betsoft scam gaming software.
4109  Other / Archival / Re: BitFortune.io – brand new bitcoin casino | Anonymous | Secure | Fresh on: February 07, 2017, 04:18:51 AM
How do you assure the security of your players?
4110  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Hacked at Nitrogen Sports on: February 07, 2017, 04:11:06 AM
Hello

I was hacked today at Nitrogen Sports

-snip-
So NitrogenSports is also your email account provider and both got hacked, your NitrogenSports gaming account and your email account hosted by Nitrogen Sports. Now I got it!

Hmm, for security reasons, I recommend to have your email account with a different provider like your gaming account provider! Wink
4111  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Hacked at Nitrogen Sports on: February 07, 2017, 03:08:17 AM
why is nitrogensports absolved of no blame here.  if you as a company are going to hold currency. you must have some form of security and insurance measures

who said i did not have 2FA?  its weird that alot of ppl saying i didnt have 2FA like they know the situation.

doesnt matter of vpn.  if a new ip address comes first time and wants withdrawal within seconds.  they should flag.  its the secure thing to do
You did not mention anything about that your email account was hacked, therefore no 2FA. Also, if you would have 2FA enabled, why would you blame NitrogenSports in first instance, if you are the only case?

The accounts are anonymous and people use VPNs with different IPs. What a chaos it would be, if they would check the IPs. Did your email provider check your IPs? Obviously not, otherwise they would have not allowed the hacker to "hack" your email account.

My impression is you are lying to us!


4112  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Hacked at Nitrogen Sports on: February 07, 2017, 02:36:03 AM
Why did you not enable 2FA, if security is important for you?
4113  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: betballer scam on: February 06, 2017, 11:49:59 PM
Ask them for the server logs, showing that you used multiple accounts.

You can sue them in Ireland. They have to deliver proof of their claim, otherwise it would be the criminal offense of embezzlement.
4114  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Play with CONSUMER PROTECTION SERVICE inclusive? on: February 06, 2017, 11:05:17 PM
US $ 100s of million are already embezzled or defrauded by online gaming and betting operators and you can read every day about new issues!

Do you think a legal expenses insurance would be helpful to enforce your rights and money?

Legal Expense insurance ? Why do you think an insurance company would cover such kinds of things,...
Because it is the function of an insurance to collect small amounts from a large number of members, to pay the large costs of legal proceeding for a small number of victims.

Game Protect makes it even possible to qualify cost free for an online gaming consumer protection service.


...specially when gambling website owners don't usually run a licensed casino and can just claim to have been hacked ?
1) In the Bitcoin only world a lot of operators are not licensed, but in general, most operators are licensed and their identity is known. In all 3 currently pending Game Protect cases the owner/operator is known:

Full Flush Poker 70:30 litigation in process, join + claim your money!

Win Cake Poker + Juicy Stakes

2) Even if an operator is not licensed and or his identity is not publicly recorded, there is still the possibility to find traces and hold the responsibles liable.

The betcoin.ag scam i.e. is a hide the operator site, but I know the responsible parties to sue. Smiley

Based on my experience and knowledge, in most cases the problem is that victims are not willing to spend larger amounts to enforce their money and not because the identity of the responsible parties to sue is not known.

4115  Economy / Services / Re: Get 5 BTC for proof who Game Protect scammed and for how much? on: February 06, 2017, 10:27:01 PM
There is no proof that you would payout if someone takes up your offer.
I explained above your post why it is not worth for Game Protect to not deliver the 5 BTC. Despite of this, millions of players deposit billions to gaming sites without any proof that they will receive it and they are very happy doing so.

Your earlier explanation basically says you have no reason to scam people for such a small amount. That's not proof that you will pay.
I ask for proof who I scammed and for how much and not for proof that I will pay. But if I will lose unlikely more than the 5 BTC, if I will not pay, it is very unlikely that I will not pay.

Over 90% of people do not ask for proof in advance, so I prefer to interact with them. Please note, the 5 BTC is only for the first who is able to deliver proof and not for everyone = one time 5 BTC.


Otherwise, this thread just made your reputation worse.  Good luck.
Wow, no escrow make reputation worse? According to your statement, over 90% of the gaming sites, who do not offer escrow, just made their reputation worse? This is a serious accusation. Shocked

I wouldn't say it's making your reputation worse but this thread really isn't going to suddenly clear things up, whether or not proof is given.
1) Proof of who I scammed and for how much, would clear up that I am a scammer

2) No proof that I scammed someone, would clear up that all the liars who said I am a scammer, thief, etc., committed the criminal offense of defamation and they should receive a negative feedback from the community. Smiley
4116  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Cloudbet.com don't pay out winning on: February 06, 2017, 10:10:08 PM
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5.1.9.3. Only one account per customer/IP/household is allowed. If you attempt and/or successfully open more than one account, all of your accounts may be blocked, suspended or closed and any bitcoin credited to your account frozen.
You personally have only one account, but let others create several accounts with your IP?

This would be indeed a breach of their ToS, but as it is stated may be and not definetely will be, their announcement per email is valid.
4117  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Betcoin isn't a scam just shitty.... free exploit included on: February 06, 2017, 09:58:03 PM
it's clear you can't understand simple logic... first you claim pokerscout says betcoin is not a skin...
Pokerscout list betcoin.ag as a separate poker room and not as a skin on the Winning Poker Network, is saying it is not a skin.

Winning Poker Network do not list betcoin.ag as a skin, is saying it is not a skin.

What details are you missing? 


i give you proof that pokerscout has no details saying it is or isn't a skin... and you come back to argue saying the only details pokerscout has is it's software details... i means thats the entire point i was trying to make you simple minded troll....
I never spoke about details or software, but it was tortic25 who claimed that betcoin.ag would be a skin on the WPN, because they use the same software:

Do you see they are both yatahay software?
http://www.flushdraw.net/networks/wpn/


And your entire logic for betcoin not being apart of wpn is "it wouldn't make sense for betcoin players to join the wpn leaderboard with it's horrible cashgame traffic" that's the only thing you have said to backup your statement that betcoin isn't a skin... vs proof after proof i gave you... you're the dumbest guy i have ever talked too and probably a burden to anyone around you since you resort to scamming.
your lifes meaningless bro
I stated the following logic why betcoin.ag is not a skin:

Use the same software does not necessarily mean "on the same network"!

- WPN publicly state that betcoin.ag is not a skin of them

- Pokerscout.com publicly state that betcoin.ag is not a skin of WPN

- Betcoin.ag cash game and sit & go players are segregated from WPN cash game and sit & go players

-> this is how they are saying it is apart from WPN
4118  Economy / Reputation / Re: what happened with xetsr? on: February 06, 2017, 09:46:58 PM
lol he left me an invalid natural feedback and i sent him like 5 pms3 month ago and no answer he may be died  Grin
He also left me an invalid feedback and people still refer to his -2 negative feedback nonsense. Time to remove this loan scammer from the DT list.
4119  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do small investments make sense? on: February 06, 2017, 05:40:21 AM
If you have living expenses in the height of $1,000, it does not make much sense to invest $10 to get a ROI of maybe 10% = $1.

But for the casino, if they require i.e. $10,000, 1000 investors a $10 would make sense. The possibility to invest small amounts is primarily not a question of profitability, but to built a relationship between investors and casino for possible higher investments after trust is built.
4120  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Play with CONSUMER PROTECTION SERVICE inclusive? on: February 06, 2017, 05:30:27 AM
In the first place. I consider most of the gambling sites illegal in my place especially right now. My main point of doing so sometimes is to experience the game and the site themselves so that i can provide any reviews. Tho this things a very far from hiring some ensurance of lawyers to feel safe because i my self dont gamble that much
Even if you do not gamble much, you could be lucky and win a larger amount? And if the insurance is even cost free, why would you care?

Gambling might be illegal in your jurisdiction, but the legal action would be in the jurisdiction of the gaming provider.
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