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4121  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Should Alaska be part of Canada or part of Russia on: July 01, 2016, 02:21:36 PM
Because Russia sold Alaska, they have no grounds to get it back - money changed hands, and contracts were exchanged.

It is a bit like the Louisiana purchase - the French sold it to the Americans and both sides are content with the deal.

The Ukraine thing is different - Russia invaded Ukraine. Trying to take something by force is theft.

P.S. Most of Siberia was owned for centuries by the Chinese - the Russians stole it from the Chinese in the 19th century. Instead of Russia constantly trying to expand, maybe they should focus on what they have, lest the Chinese deciding to take the territory back.
4122  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Explanation of what is going on in Britain right now on: June 30, 2016, 05:13:12 PM
The following article is quite good on how Boris got done in:

http://reaction.life/boris-done-cuckoo-nest-plot/
4123  Other / Politics & Society / Explanation of what is going on in Britain right now on: June 30, 2016, 03:10:54 PM
The following was written by a chap called Benjamin Timothy Blaine and sums everything up nicely:

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The leader of the opposition campaigned to stay but secretly wanted to leave, so his party held a non-binding vote to shame him into resigning so someone else could lead the campaign to ignore the result of the non-binding referendum which many people now think was just angry people trying to shame politicians into seeing they’d all done nothing to help them.

Meanwhile, the man who campaigned to leave because he hoped losing would help him win the leadership of his party, accidentally won and ruined any chance of leading because the man who thought he couldn’t lose, did – but resigned before actually doing the thing the vote had been about. The man who’d always thought he’d lead next, campaigned so badly that everyone thought he was lying when he said the economy would crash – and he was, but it did, but he’s not resigned, but, like the man who lost and the man who won, also now can’t become leader. Which means the woman who quietly campaigned to stay but always said she wanted to leave is likely to become leader instead.

Which means she holds the same view as the leader of the opposition but for opposite reasons, but her party’s view of this view is the opposite of the opposition’s. And the opposition aren’t yet opposing anything because the leader isn’t listening to his party, who aren’t listening to the country, who aren’t listening to experts or possibly paying that much attention at all. However, none of their opponents actually want to be the one to do the thing that the vote was about, so there’s not yet anything actually on the table to oppose anyway. And if no one ever does do the thing that most people asked them to do, it will be undemocratic and if any one ever does do it, it will be awful.

Clear?
4124  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Boris Johnson must give up his US citizenship now on: June 30, 2016, 03:05:14 PM
For people watching British politics right now - just remember that Game of Thrones was modeled on Britain during the War of the Roses, which is a lovely name for a pretty vicious period in our history. 530 years have passed but we're still the same people we always were!  Grin
4125  Other / Politics & Society / Re: BREXIT WON, you aren't alone on: June 29, 2016, 10:07:48 PM
BTW the Dutch are in a similar position - they are pouring money into the EU and getting very little out - I wouldn't be surprised if they decided they want out too.
And for exactly that reason, the Dutch government will never ask the population for their opinion.
Dutch government ignores the population (and referenda) anyway. Sad but true

Examples:  EU constitution, Ukraine-EU treaty

I suppose it is harder for the Netherlands to leave because they were foolish enough to sign up for the euro.

There are two western european countries who pay a lot into the EU who arn't in the euro - denmark and sweden. Both might decide to leave to protect themselves by leaving.
4126  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Which country will be next to alight from the sinking EU ship? on: June 29, 2016, 07:13:32 PM

For the refugee crisis turkey is getting money and maybe visa freedom although the last is right now not possible (atlesst that is what german news are writing), because there were several political difficulties in turkey that prevents it.



And this played a big part in the NO vote - for example some Ford Transit factories were closed in the UK and relocated to Turkey to take advantage of Merkel's EU subsidy for businesses that relocated there.

People thought wow, Britain is a net contributor, so some of that subsidy money is ours, and it is being used to move jobs to Turkey to sort out Merkel's migrant mess. It tipped the vote in those areas like Southampton.
4127  Economy / Exchanges / Re: So Coinbase supports PayPal! on: June 29, 2016, 05:14:26 PM
It's only for US citizens at the moment, and it's only for when you are selling bitcoins and receiving the fiat into your paypal account.

Coinbase won't let you buy btc with paypal because of how paypal enables scammers to reverse payments after they receive their coins.

Maybe they have some new way to verify PayPal accounts and they will allow buy Bitcoins as well - it will be big step!

I think the issue is the ease with which Paypal allows people to reverse payments following a complaint (they seem to take the attitude that the person complaining is always right, instead of investigating both sides), and Paypal is not going to change this because it is used by the ebay business to give reassurance to customers. Given that bitcoin transactions are irreversible, it makes sense not to let people buy with paypal.
4128  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Which country will be next to alight from the sinking EU ship? on: June 29, 2016, 04:39:25 PM
I think Turkey will be the next country to leave. Once they realise that they can't continue to get money for nothing, then they will be off.

No turkey would not be out of the European Union, they are very good territory for terrorist can enter the territory of europe by pretending to be refugees.

I heard from some news report how the Brexit was actually inspired by Turkey's plan to move out of the union. Well this I just heard from a friend so I won't be surprised if it's not reliable at all.

Turkey isn't IN the European Union! The fear was they might join (they've started informal talks because Merkel is buttering them up due to the migrant crisis)
4129  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Final countdown [10 Days before the halving] on: June 29, 2016, 03:29:29 PM
I'm not that excited. Well I don't think it will make much of the difference. What I am being cautious of is if it will be followed with a crash. I wouldn't want that to happen.

Some people have been holding and waiting just in case there is a price-spike. As to what they do if nothing happens? Continue to hold I guess.
4130  Economy / Speculation / Re: 1 BTC = 100.000 to 1 million is a possibility in 2035 on: June 29, 2016, 02:41:07 PM
Halvings don't make the price go up. Correlation does not mean causation.

Last time the halving coincided with bitcoin being discovered by the mainstream press. And Cyprus happened when they confiscated people's savings in a bail-in for the banks.

There is no big news to bump up bitcoin this time. It's the opposite - Brexit is a victory for the people, it makes Britain safer as EU rules like confiscating people's savings no longer apply.
4131  Other / Politics & Society / Re: BREXIT WON, you aren't alone on: June 29, 2016, 01:37:36 PM

I think that Britain will have a though time because the Globalists need to make them suffer immensely in order to try to scare other nations away from thoughts of following them out the door.  If they even follow through with the exit and it doesn't seem clear that they will.  'Many a slip 'twixt the cup and the lip' as they say.  Democracy is significantly deprecated these days and not at all popular or compatible with most of the Globalist's programs.

As an American I very much appreciate the people of Britain in the fairly brave action they have taken here.  If there is a way to support them through the tough times ahead I'll do so.  For instance, next time I wish to buy something I will find out if I can source it through a British company doing business on British soil.  Especially if they accept Bitcoin Smiley



You might be right - there is already Project Fear Mk II going on about how the sky is falling in, plus some newspapers are pushing a false narrative that people are regretting their vote, plus others talking about "walking this back".

I think both the EU and the globalists will try to crush us as an example to others.

But they picked the wrong nation to try this on. Brits have been brought up on the battle of britain - foreigners tend to say, why do your schools keep emphasizing the war, why does television keep showing WW2 stuff - it's a way of teaching the next generation about the importance of fighting. That's why the Leave vote happened - the more people tried to scare us, the more determined people became, we've been raised this way.
4132  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: $22 million worth of Bitcoin sold in Australian-first auctio on: June 29, 2016, 12:56:45 PM
That's interesting - and it didn't even move the price, so well done to them for managing to do the auction so skillfully.
4133  Other / Politics & Society / Re: BREXIT AND BTC HALVING on: June 29, 2016, 12:10:37 PM
I really don't think either of them will have a significant impact on the world economy.

Brexit is having a massive effect on the world economy. It is a stand against globalism, and that is a big threat to the US bankers. It will probably be a major factor in Obama/Clinton's failure. Globalism ( and TTIP ) is a major threat to the US not just Europe.

Well yes, it is a stand against globalism. But Brexit just made things safer for british citizens - EU rules saying savings can be confiscated can be scrapped for example. That means it is less likely that Brits will need to turn to bitcoin.  Basically if you control your country you have nothing to fear - the fear is when you don't.

Of course the rest of the EU are still being controlled by an authoritarian elite - but am not sure they realise it. Watch Italy - their banks are in trouble, EU rules demand a bail in but the Italian govt is scared to do so because he'll face the wrath of his citizens.
4134  Economy / Exchanges / Re: So Coinbase supports PayPal! on: June 29, 2016, 12:04:56 PM
It's only for US citizens at the moment, and it's only for when you are selling bitcoins and receiving the fiat into your paypal account.

Coinbase won't let you buy btc with paypal because of how paypal enables scammers to reverse payments after they receive their coins.
4135  Economy / Speculation / Re: So what's your game plan for this year's halving? on: June 28, 2016, 05:16:48 PM
I sold half my holdings at $750 because it went up so fast. The rest are tucked away and I'm just waiting to see what happens.
4136  Other / Politics & Society / Re: BREXIT AND BTC HALVING on: June 28, 2016, 04:11:30 PM
The UK is halving, so expect profits to rise. Smiley

 Cheesy UK is halving, since they are also divided on the issues. Though most people wants to exit but there are also pushes for round 2? Well, its affects on BTC  that more of them will look for other investment/financial instrument and some may choose to invest in bitcoin. By these happening, it can help   push the bitcoin price.

I think in the end the UK gets the same deal as Switzerland and Norway with the EU, still having the economic benefits and UK is very important to a lot of us.
I don't see a doom scenario in the long run...

Well Switzerland is also having a huge argument with the EU. Two years ago they had a binding referendum on stopping free movement of people, and the Swiss voted overwhelmingly to stop it. The EU is threatening to "punish" them by with-holding their access to the EU market. The Swiss are still negotiating, but by law they have to implement the referendum and stop free movement of people by 2017.

Of course the threats from the EU diminish if more and more countries leave the EU, after all access will not be to a big successful market but a small diminished one.So watch this space!
4137  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Discussion of Kraken exchange; let's share important info here on: June 28, 2016, 03:59:01 PM
Kraken exchange seems like one of the more complete, legitimate, and comprehensive exchanges out there.  Support seems to be overwhelmed right now.  Post your problems and solutions here.


let's start with  - legitimate = conforming to the law  -

Kraken is out of law because it's not a licensed money transmitter business(MSB) in any state so they are operating illegally (in USA for sure) Smiley

What does mean? Well, we know what happened with other unlicensed exchangers in the past . Overnight, FBI closed their websites and they arrested the owners. Client's funds? Gone !

So, you decide if you assume this risk along with others that derives from BTC market.


Most of Kraken's customers are in Europe, and they dominate the BTC/EUR trade. I don't think they have many American customers at all
4138  Other / Politics & Society / Re: VOTE BREXIT on 23 June, UK on: June 28, 2016, 02:08:00 PM
I especially like Nigel Farage, who is pretty libertarian

Wow, how did I miss this golden nugget earlier in the thread?

I get that you're watching from afar, but you might need a new telescope or something, as either yours is clearly broken, or you have a completely different definition of "libertarian" to the rest of the known universe.  The UK, much like the US, has no major libertarian (economic right) parties, only authoritarian ones.  It has a few libertarian-leaning politicians, but Farage sure as hell isn't one of them, despite how he tries to sound in his interviews.  He's a former member of the Conservatives and has only become more authoritarian since his departure.  His party, UKIP, are just a more hardline incarnation of the tories, funded by former tory donors.  They're practically knocking on the doors of borderline fascism.  Call me crazy, but I thought that was the opposite of championing the rights of the individual, like someone who is "pretty libertarian" would?

I suppose next you're going to tell me Trump is a libertarian too?



Actually I'd say Douglas Carswell, the only UKIP MP, is a libertarian. Farage of course is not, he's a populist. I wonder what will happen to farage now. He is no longer needed as a member of the european parliament, and Britain refused to elect him to the House of Commons last year. So he's at a loose end. After dinner speaking beckons, methinks.
4139  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Which country will be next to alight from the sinking EU ship? on: June 28, 2016, 01:09:00 PM
I'm agree that for now it's hard to make any prediction about which country will decide to off the European Union next. It has to past some time to see how it's gonna be in Britain, maybe if this out will bring more positive results for Britain - someone else will decide to leave the Union.

Yes, I think they'll all be watching, which is why the UK has to stay strong and make Brexit work. Once we've shown it can be a success, the floodgates will open.
4140  Economy / Economics / Re: The effect of Brexit on Bitcoin. on: June 28, 2016, 12:34:12 PM
There has been no effect - and that's because Brexit makes Britain safer.

The push towards bitcoin came in 2013 when ordinary people who had savings in Cyprus got their savings stolen in a bail-in.

Since then the EU has made bail-ins the official policy and states are prevented from rescuing banks till a bail-in has taken place.

Britain has never had bail-ins in 1000 years of history - and leaving the EU means we can make a bonfire of these silly laws. But that means of course that there is no need to rush out and buy bitcoin to protect yourself either - the people decided to protect themselves in a ballot.
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