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4121  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Sportsbet.io fake slot RTP(0.356BTC loss) on: January 17, 2021, 10:59:19 AM
I have no idea what is RTP?
Return To Player
Thanks. Yes I get that part, but the whole thing is not clear to me to be honest.

Quote
For example:

If a game has a stated RTP of 92%, it generally means players can expect the game to return £0.92 in the £1.00 (or currency equivalent) over a long period of plays.

source
This means in the long run I am always losing 8% and the casino is gaining.

Why would I even play those slots in the first place :-P

Anyway, now question - is there any industry standard or a casino can set their own RTP and if they set their own RTP then do they show it in their terms and conditions or keep it hidden.

The entire concept is new to me, honestly speaking I never dealt or thought of such things even to exist. So, it's taking time for me to understand the entire case. Anyway let's hear something for the bookie itself.
4122  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: ★BetBTC★ Sportsbook & Casino | Soccer Wizard - Win 0.025 BTC every Sunday on: January 17, 2021, 10:48:24 AM
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https://imgur.com/a/eODvbzQ
https://twitter.com/R777btt/status/1350744713981292544
4123  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Adkinsbet SCAM on: January 17, 2021, 10:33:01 AM
Customer screenshot is incorrect. Has been edited. Players are responsible for their own bets.
If you are 100% sure we changed your bet, why would you then deposit again on our site after that?

Ray
Quoting for reference.

@Adzivu, once you come online then make a post.
4124  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM!!! AdkinsBet scammed me for amount of 196 mBTC in completely blatant way on: January 17, 2021, 10:27:29 AM
ToS have been violated after the activity on his 2nd deposit(usage of VPN). We decide to refund the deposit from the 2nd deposit (37 mBTC).
The player has been contacted also on his Email. After this, we consider the case solved.
Why it's obvious that everything you are trying to avoid the bet that was place in the match of Ruberta Carballes - Raberta Ortega to make it lose or void so that nothing goes further from this bet?


To sum up what we have:
1. Attemp to accuse in multiaccounting
2. Attempt to connect to some 'group of cheaters'
3. Switching the bet
4. Voiding the bet becaue odds was 'wrong' and false statement about broken chain
5. Banning for other user's post (here it is btw https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5308700.msg56076019#msg56076019)
You switched the same bet - reason number 3 for OP.
You voided the same bet because odds were wrong - reason number 4
You then said the chain broken or something since the same bet was voided - extension of reason number 4 from OP

So now we have another claim which is use of VPN and again it just to avoid the bet placed on Ruberta Carballes - Raberta Ortega?

How many more reasons we are expecting that are on the way? I do not think many people will even believe any reference that will come from your system like showing IP or such things because you have already done a lot to believe that you are capable to change your database.

Yesterday there was a guy who caught red-handed, and he could avoid it if he would just admit that he wanted to do the scam and apologize that he will never do it again  but instead he gave one after another lie to establish his first lie as a truth. A lie is a lie and a lot of other connections will prove it a lie. It's now obvious that you are doing the same as that user from yesterday.

Who is your provider?
Another question, who do the KYC for you?
4125  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Vareole is a scammer on: January 16, 2021, 10:25:42 PM
@Royse777 and @actmyname thank you two for helping me.
I created the type 2 flag.
Not a problem. You in fact saved the next person to get scammed by this innovative trick.

The flag is fine. However you may need to update your OP with the flag link which is this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2587
And there is a topic somewhere which is about to request supporting or opposing a flag. Post the flag link on the topic to with the request for supporting it. (Sorry, I could not find the link of the topic or I would do that for you)

These tags so far in his profile and the flag will work as a massive warning for others and hopefully no one else will get scammed by this account again.


I would be responsible if I sent him ETH wallet. I sent him BTC wallet. I do not know if its possible to send eth to btc wallet and that way lose funds, but I assume its not possible.
You should be ashamed of giving one after another excuses instead of just confessing your intention straight forward, maybe you would have a second chance but now you have lost all unfortunately.
4126  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Sportsbet.io fake slot RTP(0.356BTC loss) on: January 16, 2021, 10:19:25 PM
I have no idea what is RTP? Read the conversation more than once but still not sure if I understood clearly. What understand is the odd or chances of winning to be higher but it was lower or something LOL. Maybe I should start playing casino slots :-D

Anyway, watching the progress. Hopefully everything ends well.
4127  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Calling iluvbitcoins....are you scamming me or what? on: January 16, 2021, 10:15:00 PM
Happy ending as it was expected.

No, no major problems at all except for a little anxiety.
Have some sleep :-D
4128  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Vareole is a scammer on: January 16, 2021, 02:01:47 PM
I was able to download the file from OPs skype account. The json code provided was authentic, actmyname also confirmed me the same.

There is one problem with this export file which is - they do not show message that was before editing. OP also had an edited text just right before Vareole sent the address. The content of that edited text and original text was same that conclude me that skype do not keep log of the message that was edited.

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{"id":"1610573352373","displayName":"vareole","originalarrivaltime":"2021-01-13T21:29:07.76Z","messagetype":"RichText","version":1610573785549.0,"content":"0x449604b95d89EE448C40379c9aED978F20219008<e_m a=\"live:.cid.20c7fbbb89171750\" ts_ms=\"1610573347760\" ts=\"1610573347\" t=\"61\"></e_m>","conversationid":"8:live:.cid.20c7fbbb89171750","from":"8:live:.cid.20c7fbbb89171750","properties":{"edittime":"1610573785033"},"amsreferences":null},


{"id":"1610573785299","displayName":"vareole","originalarrivaltime":"2021-01-13T21:36:25.299Z","messagetype":"RichText","version":1610573785299.0,"content":"0x449604b95d89EE448C40379c9aED978F20219008<e_m a=\"live:.cid.20c7fbbb89171750\" ts_ms=\"1610573347760\" ts=\"1610573347\" t=\"61\"></e_m>","conversationid":"8:live:.cid.20c7fbbb89171750","from":"8:live:.cid.20c7fbbb89171750","properties":{"isserversidegenerated":"True"},"amsreferences":null},

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{"id":"1610572806480","displayName":null,"originalarrivaltime":"2021-01-13T21:20:06.341Z","messagetype":"RichText","version":1610572814543.0,"content":"Are you still here?<e_m a=\"live:.cid.77940be53fdf7a5e\" ts_ms=\"1610572806341\" ts=\"1610572806\" t=\"61\"></e_m>","conversationid":"8:live:.cid.20c7fbbb89171750","from":"8:live:.cid.77940be53fdf7a5e","properties":{"edittime":"1610572814168"},"amsreferences":null},

{"id":"1610572814449","displayName":null,"originalarrivaltime":"2021-01-13T21:20:14.449Z","messagetype":"RichText","version":1610572814449.0,"content":"Are you still here?<e_m a=\"live:.cid.77940be53fdf7a5e\" ts_ms=\"1610572806341\" ts=\"1610572806\" t=\"61\"></e_m>","conversationid":"8:live:.cid.20c7fbbb89171750","from":"8:live:.cid.77940be53fdf7a5e","properties":{"isserversidegenerated":"True"},"amsreferences":null},

If skype had previous unedited log then the case would have been very clear cut however considering the circumstance and considering the response from Vareole - it is clear that Vareole did not tell us the true story in fact, he lied to us which let me conclude that Vareole indeed scammed OP. It was a nice strategy to be fair..

Message was edited within seconds not minutes later like he claim here.

On the above code green is original time and red is edited time.
Original time:  ~snip~, 21:29:07
Edited time: ~snip~, 21:36:25
Source converter.

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From: Saturday, 16 January 2021, 21:29:07
To: Saturday, 16 January 2021, 21:36:25

Result: 0 hours, 7 minutes and 18 seconds
Calculator
This does not feel few seconds rather it's over 7 minutes.

I am tagging user vareole. adriankendrick, please create a flag type two too, you will have my support. Sorry for your lose adriankendrick.

Edit:
@vareole, if you have a better explanation within 24 hours then please feel free to share. I will consider revising the tag if it is satisfying also I will wait for this 24 hours before supporting any flag against you.
4129  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Calling iluvbitcoins....are you scamming me or what? on: January 16, 2021, 01:16:46 AM
iluvbitcoins's last login time January 15, 2021, 07:51:37 PM.

I hope everything turns out fine once he come online. Let's hope that he is physically and/or mentally well. Possibly he does not have any other channel to communicate who knows. There could be countless reason that we never can think of. I would be looking forward to hear a reasonable reason from him in the first place when he login and see this thread.

Your (The Pharmacist) frustration completely make sense to me by the way.
4130  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Vareole is a scammer on: January 16, 2021, 12:59:50 AM
And the scammer is still not tagged Cheesy Guess why? Alt of DT? Noo that's not possible Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
It seems being in the DT is a curse LOL

Code:
{
    "id": "1610573352373",
    "displayName": "vareole",
    "originalarrivaltime": "2021-01-13T21:29:07.76Z",
    "messagetype": "RichText",
    "version": 1610573785549.0,
    "content": "0x449604b95d89EE448C40379c9aED978F20219008<e_m a=\"live:.cid.20c7fbbb89171750\" ts_ms=\"1610573347760\" ts=\"1610573347\" t=\"61\"></e_m>",
    "conversationid": "8:live:.cid.20c7fbbb89171750",
    "from": "8:live:.cid.20c7fbbb89171750",
    "properties": {
        "edittime": "1610573785033"
    },
    "amsreferences": null
},
{
    "id": "1610573785299",
    "displayName": "vareole",
    "originalarrivaltime": "2021-01-13T21:36:25.299Z",
    "messagetype": "RichText",
    "version": 1610573785299.0,
    "content": "0x449604b95d89EE448C40379c9aED978F20219008<e_m a=\"live:.cid.20c7fbbb89171750\" ts_ms=\"1610573347760\" ts=\"1610573347\" t=\"61\"></e_m>",
    "conversationid": "8:live:.cid.20c7fbbb89171750",
    "from": "8:live:.cid.20c7fbbb89171750",
    "properties": {
        "isserversidegenerated": "True"
    },
    "amsreferences": null
},
So there you can see he sent the original message at 21:29 and changed it at 21:36.
His excuse, that he immediately edited the message because of an mistakenly sent bitcoin address, is now busted.
Nearly 7 minutes difference is not immediately!!!

If we look now when I sent my message "Is sending"...
Code:
{
    "id": "1610573692204",
    "displayName": null,
    "originalarrivaltime": "2021-01-13T21:34:52.091Z",
    "messagetype": "RichText",
    "version": 1610573692204.0,
    "content": "Is sending",
    "conversationid": "8:live:.cid.20c7fbbb89171750",
    "from": "8:live:.cid.77940be53fdf7a5e",
    "properties": null,
    "amsreferences": null
},
What tool can I use to verify this message and how can I see this myself and also how would I know the address is user vareole's?
Telegram handle archived: https://archive.vn/wip/sPbAv
4131  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Adkinsbet .com scam 210mBTC on: January 16, 2021, 12:57:53 AM
it is very dangerous to send any documents to such fraudulent sites.moreover, it is very clear that they will not pay me. even the deposit will not be returned to me.
it is very dangerous to send any documents to such fraudulent sites.moreover, it is very clear that they will not pay me. even the deposit will not be returned to me.
No. This is where it is perfectly acceptable to send your KYC documents as requested.
I have not looked into the case yet, but I think OP should not send them KYC. I have PMed you and some other users about a new concern, also admins are informed too.
4132  Economy / Reputation / Re: Alt of game-protect? on: January 16, 2021, 12:49:29 AM
Some sort of a bump if you will...good to see gp losing his mind again Cheesy

I believe gosha@e-coin is not the only new account of game-protect <.....>

VanityWallets2015 was the third account that i found. <....>

Very high probability accounts gadado and baxterx to be under gp control also.

gp and his eternal love for Sportsbet, while defending another casino (in reply to actmyname):

Since you work for Sportsbet.io, it is very relevant. To be sure that Sportsbet.io, together with Bitcasino.io, will now also receive the necessary attention  Wink You can be sure about that.

wildan88, ongkok87, BitcoinAccepted, coin.princess, MI6, aomakun and plenty more, the last time i counted them, gp had over 20 accounts under his control, funny to see him defend casinos, usually, they are the ones attacking, making accusations.

^in relation to the so-called shills defending Adkinsbet, these accounts are directly / indirectly connected to game-protect, look for high-ranked accounts with recent password change (since September 2020, the second batch of purchased/rented acc.)

gosha@e-coin, VanityWallets2015, gadado, and yayayo was batch #1
What!
You have just added some twist in the story LOL
Please join us here if you don't mind :-P

Interestingly, we all forgot (maybe not true about other, but I have him out of mind) about the possibility of them being gp's alt. :-D
4133  Economy / Reputation / Re: AdkinsBET's reputation. Is something wrong? on: January 16, 2021, 12:39:24 AM
What a nonsense! You have been actively involved with adkinsbet from the very first message and interfere with any matter relating to Adkinsbet. You are to blame for having negative flags in your account. You don't play the game according to the rules, you abuse your DT status and engage your friends who are also DT. By the way, wouldn't surprise me if those are your accounts. Just a matter of time before more tags are added to your account.
People who are abusing their DT status like you should not be in the DT level.

Dear sir gadado,
I hope you are fine and doing very well. How is your signature spamming working out? Does B-L-A-C-K-J-A-C-K.fun (added "-" so that they do not get notiication if they have it active) know that they are paying you for spamming? You seem not reading (feel free to read here please) but throwing out shit in the dark hoping something will hit the spot or just filling up the campaign weekly quota, right? I will be interested to see how many posts a week you make when you do not wear a signature. Don't think that I am going to call B-l-a-c-k-j-a-c-k.fun to remove you from the signature campaign to satisfy my desire or anyone who will take you in any signature campaign in the future. If I do that then this will be a misuse of my DT status.

The way you tagged me (does not bother me at all, I doubt you will be given any responsibility ever by the community considering the service you are providing to the community), I could do the same but that will be:
1. A retaliatory feedback
2. Abuse of my DT status
3. a step to stop your voice which is your fundamental right.
I won't do that, you can have peace in mind.

Do you see how I am not abusing my DT power? Possibly you are confusing with the words "using" and "abusing".

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You have been actively involved with adkinsbet from the very first message and interfere with any matter relating to Adkinsbet
Would you be kind enough to post the link of the first message that you claim againt me?

Ouch! Maybe this is another nonsense from me?

Maybe after all the hard work you are doing for Adkinsbet, you deserve some entertainment, and I am trying to provide it in this post. I am not a comedian, but I tried my best sir.

By the way, a genuine question to you however I have a feeling that you will not answer genuinely though.
Q. Why it hurts you and some others like you so bad when anyone talks something against Adkinsbet?

Update:
Maybe I found the genuine answer I was looking for:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260668.msg56106549#msg56106549
4134  Economy / Reputation / Re: AdkinsBET's reputation. Is something wrong? on: January 15, 2021, 12:13:43 PM
Honestly you seem a bit obsessed with this casino, I don't quite understand why.
- Are you going to say the same when I stood up in favour of Best_change? TMAN left them negative and some other users were also justifying their service and not escrowing the signature campaign fund as shady without any solid reason.

- Are you going to say the same when I stood up against sportsbet.io for a user called (Neymar12 or 13) and eventually we had a board of few trusted users to resolve the case.

- Are you going to say the same when I had a stand against Bitcasino.io for a user who won big but later it was found that he cheated the system and the user admitted it himself. Karl had a very good explanation of what was going on, and it was satisfactory.

There are many cases where I stood up against wrong doings which I believed wrong. Are you going to say that I was obsessed?

I still regret that I should not go so hard against sportsbet.io, I said it publicly that Steve and I had a good relationship, but I believe after that case it disappeared. This community comes first for me. Not any business, not any service or anything else.

Anyway, I will take your words, and maybe it looks like that I am obsessed with this casino but believe me I always try to escape these kinds of topics, but they do not leave me alone (Sorry Steamtyme and another user - no hurt feeling in fact, I appreciate and I belive it was the right thing for you to ask my input).

Steamtyme first messaged me to look at this case, it was a few weeks ago as you can see. This was the first time when I got involved with akinsbet case.

Shall I tell a truth to all? I saw this topic even when the day it was posted (I have notification active for scam accusation board along with many other boards), but I did not make a comment, I pretended that I did not see it. Of course no one can blame me not to comment in a post.

Do you know the reason? I did not even bother to look at the case details because a few weeks prior I was given a small free bet from adkinsbet to try their system and I in fact doubled it and withdraw that money, so I had a good impression for two reasons.
1. Someone gave me something which I did not expect. A kind gesture and in return I was kind too.
2. There were no problem of withdrawing money. So, my personal experience was good although the money was around only 0.002 BTC.

Do you see why I wanted to avoid the case, do you see how kind I was when I was asked to give a look in the case? When I was asked to look at the case I just can not pretend then any more, can I? Besides, after I was being asked when I looked at the case carefully I realized OP of that topic has a case and he deservs what he was asking.

After resolving that case there were a few more cases and all gone fairly okay if I can remember (Sorry, I do not have the energy to look at all the cases now and give a detail about each of them). But one thing was noticeable that a group of users are always protecting adkinsbet. They start threatening any user who tells anything against adkinsbet. Do you see that? Do you see how you are blessed with merits from gadado (3), MI6 (2) in the post you made, do you see since I left a negative to adkinsbet trust page how users are returning favour in my trust wall? Do you see some of them even threatening me?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5308700.msg56095419#msg56095419
but I will dig until I find out.

Are you seeing the same group of people also attacking actmyname, Steamtyme and others? They are trying to toss up anything in the dark. No one is getting away from them - sometimes they're accusing someone to be the shill for sportsbet.io or betnomi or forthunejack. What will be your explanation in all these? Take note that nothing from them is bothering me much, and I am pretty sure others have the same feeling. Those trolls are trying their best to fulfil their signature cap and if anything they have received from adkinsbet (I may wrong in there by the way).

I wanted to forget and wanted to avoid adkinsbet again. But another user (as reputed as Steamtyme) directed me to this topic.

Do you think I was supposed to stay clam and silent even after knowing what is going on with one of the user I know and the same reason I discovered in this accusation too? I took the step that I needed to take to serve the community in my good faith.

Have you looked at the these two cases yet?
adkinsbet.com scam 0.555 BTC! help!
SCAM!!! AdkinsBet scammed me for amount of 196 mBTC in completely blatant way
Are you going to support or oppose the flag created against adkinsbet?



I'm wary of DT that constantly attack the same casinos attacked by sockpuppets.
True but at-least after all these years some of us developed a sense to realize which one is genuine and which one is fake. I am not saying that we do not make mistakes. Even after all experiences, we make mistakes like it happened in the case of bitcasino. That user had all of us believing in his case but that's an exception of course.

The actual problem to the forum isn't casino shills -- they've been here for as long as I have. It's the persistent, baseless attacks on casinos by scum who solely exist to exploit defects in the casino. When they get caught, they write up a scam accusation here, and you tend to give them the benefit of the doubt more often than not. Why?
Are you going to deny the evidences presented against adkinsbet but going to accept the words adkinsbet is saying without giving any fact?
I can not speak for others, but I will first look at the evidences, proofs before seeing a user's status whether they are newbie or established account or a casino with a billion dollar yearly turnover.

Let me know if you have the answer of the "Why".
4135  Economy / Reputation / Re: AdkinsBET's reputation. Is something wrong? on: January 14, 2021, 06:53:08 PM
You are very funny, you know that?
I know that I am not funny. I also know that you are not reading but spamming.

Did adkinsbet paid you for shilling them or you are spamming to get paid from the signature campaign. Adkinsbet should be the one to attack me with whatever BS they can think of. What is your reason instead?

Edit:
Here comes one after anther. @gadado
So you guys are proving a point that I am right.

You are welcome.
4136  Economy / Reputation / Re: AdkinsBET's reputation. Is something wrong? on: January 14, 2021, 05:47:21 PM
So can we say that adkinsbet has hired some users on the forum to shill for them?
Or they are spamming?

I was asked privately by a user and my answer was clearly they are shilling.

Let me know what you think after reading some responses from few users in this topic : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5308700.0
Especially on the page 3 to 6.
4137  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: adkinsbet.com scam 0.555 BTC! help! on: January 14, 2021, 05:39:52 PM
I hope that there aren't any account farmers in the bushes here, because I'm about to start cracking down on their spam posts in the shit boards again. But obviously we only use one account on the forum.
I think it's time to ignore some users for few days until things get cool up :-D
4138  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: adkinsbet.com scam 0.555 BTC! help! on: January 14, 2021, 05:30:03 PM
Very funny that it were your words that people have to come up with evidence, and you write that you just believe people.

There was a user who did not have any evidence, and you just tell him the story is true?
You know what it's called? It's called playing with words and stop trying with me.

If I would use my DT power then I would tag all of you already because you are doing everything to defend a bookie who are clearly doing shady things not to pay their clients. Good for you and others that I am not misusing the responsibility I am given from he community. I am well aware that how far you all can go against a user who will not satisfy you. Chose a right reason and you will be rewarded. By doing what you are doing with a Legendary account is not expected.
4139  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: adkinsbet.com scam 0.555 BTC! help! on: January 14, 2021, 05:12:56 PM
Great. Any reason why there is live bet in my account??
There is 2 open bets in odds of 16.3
https://ibb.co/H2dKWyC
Can you screen-cast it please. Video record the screen also make sure you refresh the page. I would believe you but there will be users who might say that it was faked that sometimes screenshots can be faked.
4140  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: adkinsbet.com scam 0.555 BTC! help! on: January 14, 2021, 05:08:38 PM
get a life mate.
Buddy! You sounds like too angry because something I am doing which is going against adkinsbet. adkinsbet were the one who were suppose to be angry here not you or some other users on a sudden left me some feedback after leaving this post and tagging adkinsbet. I am also getting accused of saying that I am using my DT power. What a shame.

Do I really look like that I am using my DT power? Do I really look like that this is first time I am involved in a scam accusation? Is this first time I am trying to help users who come to this forum with a hope that they will get justice?

You and them other users who left me those feedback (does not effect me by the way or stop me of the things I do) really never followed me or some of you would know why I left posting regularly in the local section. I have said them in posts in the past. But you would not care anyway.



~snip~
I do not have time to respond all the BS popping up right after tagging the bookie. I would rather look for the next guy to help him with the information they need in the forum.

Take care.
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