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50 % Pre-Mine + 36 Mio $ USD in BTC als Fundingrunde? Also Leute, wer da auch nur einen mBTC investiert kann seine BTC auch gleich bei einer Casinoseite verspielen  Du drückst das etwas überspitzt aus. Die Coin hat keine Cap, sondern lineare inflation. Die founder bekommen 50% der inflation des ersten Jahres, welche für 1 Jahr gelockt sind. Die BTC werden (angeblich, das muss man sehen) nich privat verwendet sondern für incentives von services, marketing, etc. aufgewendet. Meine derzeitige Meinung ob sich investieren hier lohnt: wahrscheinlich nicht über gebühr im vergleich zu mining. Early investors haben nur dann einen Vorteil, wenn die Popularität steigt. Grundsätzlich ist ethereum (als coin betrachtet) nicht so attraktiv für hoarding wie solche mit limitiertem supply... wegen der stetigen Inflation (in absoluten Werten konstant, prozentual gesehen kontinuierlich fallend, asymptotisch gegen 0% gehend) Die technelogy an sich ist aus meiner Sicht extrem interessant. Das Ding ist mehr als bitcoin, wegen der mächtigen skript-sprache und der möglichkeit Agenten zu machen, welche aktiv auf der blockchain code ausführen. "Apps in the blockchain", sozusagen. Bitcoin ist hier sehr limitiert (man schaue sich an, welchen Kraftakt und Zeitaufwand es bedeutete, eine Änderung einzuführen, welche multi-signature möglich machte) und ethereum könnte technologie-mässig bitcoin 2.0 werden... entdecke die Möglichkeiten. Ich plane selbst ein bisschen zu investieren und auch zu minen,.. und natürlich zu versuchen mitzumischen  . |
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bitcoin.de: Ein Unterkonto für Steuern
In Deutschland ist der Gewinn durch Bitcoin-Verkäufe steuerfrei, wenn man den Bitcoin 12 Monate gehalten hat. Viele Nutzer fragen sich nun, wie sie das dem Finanzamt beweisen sollen. Wir haben diese Sorge aufgegriffen und ein Unterkonto erarbeitet, auf dem Sie die Bitcoins separat speichern können. Nach 12 Monaten erhalten Sie von uns dann eine Bestätigung, dass Sie die Bitcoins ein Jahr gehalten haben. Das Konto wird demnächst online gehen. Wir bitten solange noch um Geduld.
erstmal keine Hilfe, aber coole Idee, oder? |
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And so is actually using it...if you keep your paper wallet in your leather wallet...
as a matter of fact, i do. it's called a privkey QR code and it's BIP38 encrypted via bitaddress.org. if i wanted to pay you this minute, i'd whip it out, scan it with the cold storage function from Mycelium into my android's RAM, unencrypt it with my simple 8 character pwd, and send you the coin. the privkey is wiped from RAM immediately when i close the program. hey, cypher, I made this cool app for android that quotes gold vs. bitcoin stats (silverbox style?) in realtime. go install it at https://darkweb.0x0000.de/auvsxbt.apk |
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and sending from a cold storage wallet is trivial.
That depends on your definition of trivial. I wouldn't say it is. |
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maybe I'm getting old, but I'm putting no more than 20% into alts and leave at least 80% in Bitcoin.
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How the heck did it get unlocked?
Good question. Just remembered you locked it back then. |
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I think of gold as analog bitcoin.
Bingo. But it's worse. Analog signals can be transmitted at the speed of light. Gold cannot. But gold can be used (probably is used) to transmit bitcoins. I like "analog bitcoin". How about "gold is bitcoin 0.1 alpha"? |
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muahaha, awesome! Thanks for taking the time to do this. * molecular makes mental note to search for "bubble stages chart answer pic bookmark" |
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If mainstream media (including RT) wasn't hating on bitcoin I would be suspicious.
+1 IF Obama suggested everyone to start investing into bitcoin I'd be definitely reaching for my tinfoil hat paper wallet. ftfm |
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not exactly, it states more closely to: if you will use bitcoins, we might consider you are involved in terrorism and/or money laundering and such...
don't modern governments do that anyhow? |
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$30 uptick incoming! (hey it worked before so why not)
lol, just jumped about 6 pages ahead and saw the same post. wtf ;-) |
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How many % of total what? Value in the world stored in it?
The world and everything in it is 100%. How many % is gold? (Discussing about gold in dollar terms is not only wrong, it is impossible.) Hmm. The answer is the same as to this question: "what percentage of his wealth does the average person hold in gold?". It isn't any easier to answer, though. My wholly irrelevant guess is somewhere in between 1.5% to 5% On a side-note: what's the value of the last fish in the world? |
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watching  I better post too, lol! Lol |
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Speaking of stabbing people, which we weren't, what ever happened to the gazillion wall street bucks that were waiting to pour onto the exchanges after Jan 1?
You mean the ETFs? They are not set up yet. Nah. Back in December all the rage was to talk about all the wall street money that was going into the exchanges. Already in? |
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It is helpful if we totally rid ourselves of fiat as a measurement of value:
The market cap of gold is currently about 1.5-2% of market cap of the world.
That of silver is way less and Bitcoin is still less (0.003%).
When Bitcoin reaches its potential and becomes 10-50% of the market cap of the world (the position that paper sludge is occupying now and metals occupied thousands of years), will gold still be 1.5% of the world?
I think, yes. I see no much reason why not. It will start to be used in more decorative purposes, though, such as the Solomon's Temple which was overlaid with gold.
To uphold the price of gold (or anything), it does not matter if 95% think it is worthless. The rest can happily bid it up, and gold is a prime example of this.
Anybody care to discuss the role of gold in mathematical terms? How many % of total? And will the total go up or down with the introduction of crypto and the resulting free flow of money? How many % of total what? Value in the world stored in it? I agree we should try to rid ourselved from measuring everything in USD. That's quite a project though, because tax authorities require that crap as unit of measurement for everything. btw, still an awesome chart to look at: http://pricedingold.com/bitcoin/would've preferred them to use oz/BTC instead of mg/BTC, but whatever. |
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(what happened to this thread? 2 pages of pointless ego-fighting?)
question to the experts, though: some sources state "problems in emerging countries" as reason for the market drops last week. I have problems understanding that. Which countries?
Seems to me the USD dropped at the same time as equities and that other stuff, so it should've been something to do with the USD? Did the FED try to taper or something?
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Can anyone explain the $200 difference with Gox?
Might be simple: people still can't get fiat out and are starting to capitulate |
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