Investing is one way to grow up your bitcoins if you invested in legit and registered site, it will be great. Now a days you can't see a long term investing sites.
Investments are way way too risky in the bitcoin ecosystem. Even big and trustworthy ones break down so that the successrate is diminishing small. You might want to get a constant stream of income you can trust on. But one really should consider that you give ALL of it away and the risk to lose ALL for some profits per YEAR are simply something you really carefully have to think about. If you want to invest then make sure you know the ones running it and that you are very sure they are honest. Make sure your deals are backed by the identity and that you can sue the one behind it. But even then. Consider it a very very high risk regardless. |
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mrkent... where do you get the vouchers for the Instant program for? I mean i you guys buy those vouchers then you are at risk. Or does the 5% already have this risk priced in?
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I found that Ken lost 453 Bitcoins on MtGox. I hope he or the liquidator or someone is going to claim those. Though the projected 20% that might be recovered when making a claim against MtGox through Kraken arent worth the effort. Im not sure. 453 Bitcoins at $483 are $218799. If we could get 20% of that value then this would be bitcoins worth $43759.80. I guess thats not enough to make a reasonable refund though maybe it would be worth to claim it. Maybe there are some more funds somewhere. I mean Ken claimed all the time he would get funds from eASIC. I wonder if i should set any hope in this. I guess better not...  |
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I have a question about okcoin and their order system.
I had created a long position at 216.53. Order filled. Then i created a trigger order close long 216.28 trigger price and 215 order price. After that a close long limit order at 217.25.
Both orders existed so i was sure they are valid and that, if one order fills, the other gets invalid because there arent enough contracts for it to be filled otherwise. Since they both were close longs.
It ended the way that the price fell hard and i made a market sell (didnt know it was a trap). The trigger order did not trigger, even though it was live and now it was got cancelled with "ordered failed" and im not sure what happened with the limit order. It shows cancelled.
So what happened? Why do the two orders exist together but only one of them gets eventually filled? I mean that isnt margin trading where you could end up buying shorts when both orders fill. So it would be normal that more than one order for the same contracts can exist. They would simply be cancelled if impossible to fill. And since they both stayed live i had to assume that they both are valid. But for some reason only the limit order was active and the trigger order did no trigger at all.
What went wrong? The support claims my error was to create the limit order. But both orders stayed there at the same time. So i had no reason to believe they arent active.
I think thats confusing and prone to errors and complaints. I only wanted to secure my position without having to watch it all the time. The way it looks now it seems i cant do this at okcoin.
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Just incase he does not understand the stolen part it's Microsoft OP chances are is stealing from. There is no such thing as a MSDN account that allows sales. Just look at the TOS Your not allowed to:rent, lease, lend, resell, transfer, or sublicense any Services or portion thereof to or for third parties, except as explicitly permitted herein or in license terms that accompany any Services component; https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/cc300389.aspxIf you show license terms that Microsoft is allowing you to somehow do the above you could prove it's legal. But I personally have not seen this ever. The selling of keys killed Microsoft Technet. Though what Microsoft wants and what they legally can want sometimes are different things. I dont know how its the case in this case here but with windows 7 oem and lower they lost at courts in germany when they wanted to forbid the resale of the win 7 serial codes. They claimed they sold them together with the hardware and they dont want them to be sold. Court said that they can be sold of course. Nobody can forbid you to sell your property. Then MS started to put the serial code for windows oem into the motherboard. Starting from windows 8. If you now break your mainboard then you cant verify your windows anymore. Except you buy a new mainboard from the supplier you got your pc from. If you have a notebook you have further problems since exchanging a notebook mainboard is not so easy. |
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I didn't exactly understand what you mean.  Images are not allowed in the signature space. Edit: PM'd  Didnt know that. When i thought about it then i thought it might make sense because theymos already had trouble with the avatars. But then... images in threads are allowed. So i wonder why its not allowed in signature. Too bad... some nice graphics would make the forum look nice. And if someone would abuse it with too annoying images then he can be made to stop. Would have been nice... |
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Yup CoinTop is one of his and so is mikecoin2. There were a few others that were already tagged.
I am not sure about his claim about stealing 20 BTC as escrow because that isn't something that I remember and people would probably have made a pretty big deal about it.
Also 1.2 is a pretty big deal for someone to do without escrow especially with an untrusted person, I would doubt that unless his hero account has a good amount of trust then escrow would probably be used. If this was the case then the account would probably be worth more then the 1.2 he plans on stealing
I think so too. 20BTC are a lot and someone would remember such a scam accusation case. He claims too have been doing this since 2011, back in the beginning 20BTC didn't have the value it does now, he doesn't say when he got that so at the time 1BTC may have only been worth $2-$3 each.
I have read it as like he did it since he is 11 years old. Matches the language. Most probably a script kiddie. And the security measures? Always different names? Im not sure he know how safe/unsafe he is. Especially when he claims he reroutes amazon packages to himself. I mean how to prevent that it becomes suspicious that complaints about his address come in? And receiving in person before another house is too dangerous too because the postman sees you. ROFL I love his line "But anyone would have done the same for that much" about scamming 20 BTC. No, Mike. Not everybody would do the same. Not everybody is a sleazebag low-life, such as yourself.
+1 To be honest i have no idea why he thought he was safe to admit it to me, but i'm not complaining. I tried to take advantage as much as i can about him being open and get him to reveal as much as possible. I also have a feeling duckydonald is another one of his accounts.
Good work how you spoke with him. He obviously was easy brought to brag and you made him feel great. Shame on him! I thought he might be joking but he is seriously loving to SCAM people and teach them a lesson Why did he admit this to you? I have never heard about a scammer to be so open about his thoughts except in cases when they talk to their lawyer. You only need to read about in certain cracker, carder and whatsoever forums. They are proud about it and tell others and get reputation for it. This one thought he might speak with OP like with someone of his kind, thinking he is fully safe... |
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If I can get my bitcoin paid back at $483, then I will take the cash please!
Why would anyone want a $235 bitcoin refund when they can get $483 per bitcoin refund?
I'll take the cash and buy twice the amount of Bitcoin, that'll do me nicely!
Thats not how it works. I asked the same question and got this answer. The chances to get something back are very good, provided that 1) you establish your claim and 2) your claim amount isn't really small (for claims below JPY1,000, the trustee has said that you will still get the payout, but you might have to come pick up your money - not practical for most people).
We don't know the percentage and it will depend on undetermined factors, such as how many people decide to make their claim. Some have speculated that it might be around 20% based on some public information, but it isn't certain.
All currencies including BTC will be considered in terms of their value in JPY when MtGox went bankrupt. These values will be used to determine your pro rata share of the total remaining assets. If you request a payout in BTC, the amount of BTC you receive would be your pro rata share of JPY converted to BTC at the current market rates.
I quoted all the answer since the other info is noteworthy too. But they all calculate in JPY, if you chose bitcoins then you will get the amount of bitcoins you could buy at the current market price for the amount of JPY. So basically for people only having FIAT money in Gox, the best thing would be if they actually used today's BTC prices. That way the amount all the holders of BTC get gets smaller compared to the prices at Gox's downfall. But I do understand that the way they're doing it makes most sense and is the one complying with the regulations. I understand it another way. All btc will be calculated to fiat for the price of bitcoin when mtgox went down. Then, if you want get btc out, your fiat will be paid out in btc for the price of btc at the time it gets paid out. So no losing, in fact winning in amount of btc when you have btc in it because the bitcoin price is lower now than when mtgox went down. Am i wrong? |
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I wanted to give my reply at least a couple days to see, what ASICSPACE would come up with. As expected nothing, as they can and do no not contribute in any way with resolving the situation or the detailed technical analysis. They even could not as they have no longer access to any machine at all. This customer's miners did receive damage, the cause is still being investigated.
This is correct along the line, that the investigation is not done by ASICSPACE, as they lack the competency to do so. This is done by Toomim Bros. to whom we have relocated the equipment. They have all the means and skills required to do so and work in close relationship with Bitmain to do the detail root cause analysis. One thing is at this stage however undoubtful: The reason is excessive heat. ASICSPACE staff did not manually do any such thing, and we are working the the developer of our management software to see if is at all possible that it could have changed that setting.
So, lets conclude: If ASICSPACE did not do this, then it must have been someone else from outside ASICSPACE. This means, that ASICSPACE does not rule out that other people than ASICSPACE staff have access to their customers equipment. Interesting. Well, as it could not have been us, the customers, as we did not have any remote access to the machines at all we are talking about a Third Party here, that is probably living under the floorboards of the datahut and comes out at night to fiddle with Antminers. One possibility. Or, it could have been due to the lacking technological skills of a yet unknown software developer who is probably called by the name Chuck the Chimp, that the software tools are faulty in a way that they distribute wrong settings or cfgminer profiles. However, even after two days of investigation, ASICCRAP has not been able to come up with an explanation. Other than that however, ASICSRAP has meanwhile come up with a new twist: - they pretended to have found a buyer, who would buy all our machines in their current state for the money we paid for them. Of course, 24 hours later that buyer vanished. - they now claim, that we did not pay for energy in advance ("if you closely look at the contract") but for maintenance for our machines. As if it would make a difference, which service you did not deliver and get paid for. Thanks to the contributions of the community though, we are getting a more and more complete picture of their mode of operations, that we are putting together piece by piece to prepare for the big take down. Stay tuned to learn about interesting topics such as setting up miners to mine into ASICCRAPs pools instead of their customer ones. We'll update this thread after our investigation.
Robert
Well, lets see who has the more interesting updates  Maybe we should start a countdown until ASICRAPS ultimate downfall. When you think about that topic then there is a third explaination. What if a competitor sends some miners there and knows they will break because they are changed that way? The same might go for a scammer who wants to dump useless miners that way in the hope to get a refund. Of course then a new account would be used for the accusation. Of course there are other explainations for a new account too. So in fact there is one possibility more than you claimed. Its no accusation, this came only up when reading that topic. So the miners arent there already and you expect them to find out the problem themselfes? I guess they would wait for Toomim Bros right? And you claim the rooms are not vented. If the temperature sensor isnt working and the chips overheat then all the fresh air around it shouldnt be able to change anything. So if the temperature sensor was deactivated then this wouldnt have to do anything with proper cooling of the hosting room, am i right? I dont know the type of miners though. Might be your anger that you write that way. I expect that some of it will flow my way now though i dont accuse, i only say there is another possibility. So maybe you should wait about what the investigation shows. What kind of miners was it? Did you run them by yourself before or did you buy them from someone and let them send there? |
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I have a question about okcoin and their order system. I had created a long position at 216.53. Order filled. Then i created a trigger order close long 216.28 trigger price and 215 order price. After that a close long limit order at 217.25. Both orders existed so i was sure they are valid and that, if one order fills, the other gets invalid because there arent enough contracts for it. It ended the way that the price fell hard and i made a market sell (didnt know it was a trap ). The trigger order got cancelled with ordered failed and im not sure what happened with the limit order. It shows cancelled. So what happened? Why do the two orders exist together but only one of them gets eventually filled? I mean that isnt margin trading where you could end up buying shorts when both orders fill. So it would be normal that more than one order for the same contracts can exist. They would simply be cancelled if impossible to fill. What went wrong? The support claims my error was to create the limit order. But both orders stayed there at the same time. So i had no reason to believe they arent active. |
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He could sell them to himself if he has an Amazon Seller account (He needs to have another account to do that)
Can you explain? You mean he buys his own products? But wheres the profit then if he has to buy the gift cards first? That does sound like a genius idea, but the risk of buying a carded gift card, and the large fees that amazon charges would make it worthless, unless the product is of high value. That's why I can't trust services like coin.mx Do they trade amazon gift cards too? I thought they are for cryptocurrencies only. Yes, amazon has high fees. Thats why i wonder how he can be sure to make a profit. I mean i checked out things on that topic too...
Which topic? Yeah, this whole thing is... high risk. The topic that i might buy vouchers myself and buy with them on the amazon websites. While investigating i found this topic. http://www.sythe.org/14118510-post10.html One user claims that the risk only exists with digital ones. e-giftcards. And that its not possible to charge back with physical ones. Though i wonder if thats true if the card was bought with a carded CC or a user makes simply a credit card chargeback. And this user http://www.sythe.org/14212800-post20.html claims he has special ways to deal with such cases which arent available to normal users. I wonder what they does. By the way... they all have great signatures. I wished signatures on this forum would be that great. |
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Update: I realized that it was actually my mistake. 796 responded to my support ticket the same day. The reply was actually so fast that I dismissed the e-mail thinking that it was an auto-reply.
Not for me. Do they send from an email address that cant be found when searching for from: 796? I only find automated emails for verification and such things. |
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SebastianJu Kumala really has been very unresponsive for over a year, only fixing some of the bugs on cs but he has very unresponsive to peoples emails or questions on bitcointalk, the way he has operated in the past is far from good, he issued stocks in Vircurex exchange without mentioning that they was several thousend btc i the red at that point, then they lost even more in later problems and he later confiscated traders funds on vircurex and he havent payed dividends accourding to the contract in the Vircurex stock for years.
The cryptostocks site cant be generating much profit for him now either as there is hardly anyone registering any new stocks there theese days witch probably was the biggest income before at 1 btc a stock, they only take 0.15%*2 on trades so it only comes down to something like 30 btc*0.30% = 0.090 btc a month in income from that now, maby they make a few hundred btms from withdrawal fees as they most likely pay less in network fees than 0.005 that they take out, but that cant add up to so much either.
I tried contacting him on vircurex too some time ago. It seems he has abandoned that as well. Though even someone who claimed that he knows kumala did not answer. I did not want support, only had a question on behalf of LCSH, the shareholder group hunting the labcoin scammer down. |
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Ah, ok, didnt calculate together, so i thought the 20% were only mentioned and not put into btc. Then you might recalculate to monthly too in order to beat monthly campaigns too on first sight.  |
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Did you know? Your effective pay per post rate could be as high as 0.0028BTC.
Requirement: Awesome posts like Quickseller, shorena, etc. The calculation: Pay rate: 0.15 BTC (max) LP: 20% Bonus: 0.1 BTC (usual max for first place bonus) TOTAL = 0.28 BTC per week for 100 posts. Effective rate = 0.0028 BTC per post.  Now you know why we don't need custom deals? Sincerely, Mr. Hobbit Shouldnt you calculate the loyalty bonus in too? Partly per week or as max for a week. |
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We have someone spreading Christian talk after some fine Kool-Aid. Pressing the ignore button will save this thread from disaster. Back to the topic, this is actually awesome. I'm going to guess there are a lot of people who are going to be against it. This can cause problems like overpopulation. Let's say that this thing becomes publicly available right now, how many people would there be on the Earth in 900 years (if there are no major catastrophes or anything)? There would have to be some kind of restrictions or something unless people want serial killers to get out of prison after 5 life sentences (if they're still 100 years?). That can't be true because they can't know that. Ask someone from the 15th century if we're ever going to be able to fly to the moon. I see what you mean but the thing is that infos are lost. What is it worth if your brain is changed or damaged so far that you are like a child or something. And that only if they can heal the damage. Cells are broken and neurons damaged. And lost infos in there cant possibly be recreated since the info is nowhere stored. So as long as they dont find a way to store the personality or develop time travel... it wont work i think. |
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Gibt auch noch tradewave.net. Bin dort und kann mich nicht beklagen. Ich habe aber cryptotrader vorher nicht ausprobiert. Sie sind aber beide im selben Geschäft und bei tradewave kann man wohl mehr als einen Bot laufen lassen. (War zumindest mal ein Unterschied. Ich weiß nicht ob der noch gilt.) |
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So this is the first post on bitcointalk that mentions this url. A claimed problem and support is there fast to clear everything. At the end you have the url posted and know the support is working fast.
Does anybody know that website for real or is this only advertising.
From the info i have at the moment, i would now send them anything as long as i didnt investigate further. Way too risky believing two noobs that registered only yesterday.
Edit: Website owner contacted me through email and explained that his service is legit. I cant judge this. Only mentioning...
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No, but i wonder what satoshi can or will do with it. There was a statement from him that one never should delete a wallet, so most probably he hasnt too. So that leaves where will he give the coins to. If he dies and his childs get them there is a chance they will bring bitcoin down. He would never risk this.
So the only other solution would be that he now, after he made this big change, can bring the next big change. Maybe he waits for the price of those coins to rise in order to match his plans.
What i think about are that he can give power to certain groups that he thinks of are worthy to support. Libertarians, humanitarians or something like an organization that could be a worldwide, free and really democratic government. Depending on the amount of worth his bitcoins could be a real power at some point.
Thats the only solution for the coins that i see. He cant risk much there.
Of course that only valid as long as he didnt mine to a bogus address.
Saying that... does anyone believe that the NSA didnt have enough data about all his work to identify him long ago? Even when they only found out about it later, they have huge data storages. So i think its unlikely that the NSA doesnt know who he is.
So it might be that this wealth is in the wrong hands since a long time already. And i dont want to speculate what they will do with it.
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