Vod became a threat to the stability of the forum

[SellMaster3000]

Please close this thread.
I've accepted my mistake and apologized to Vod in a PM.

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[Vod]

Now, Vod has tracked down one of my PayPal addresses (Aint using it anymore so don't worry).

If you aren't using it anymore, that's ok.  You'll be blacklisted from opening up anymore paypal accounts.  I know you can't continually open up fake bank accounts with stolen credit cards.  There is a limit to your anonymity.  

Try and create a new paypal address using a VPN... soon enough you'll use it to sell more stolen goods, it will be reported to me, and it will be blacklisted.    

Your threats are empty - you hide in the shadows.  BUT you have an alternative - stop selling stolen Microsoft keys.

Have a wonderful day, scammer "Jake".  

[Vod]

He has pretty well admitted what he is doing is illegal here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=993681.msg11199096#msg11199096

[notlist3d]

Now, Vod has tracked down one of my PayPal addresses (Aint using it anymore so don't worry).

If you aren't using it anymore, that's ok.  You'll be blacklisted from opening up anymore paypal accounts.  I know you can't continually open up fake bank accounts with stolen credit cards.  There is a limit to your anonymity.  

Try and create a new paypal address using a VPN... soon enough you'll use it to sell more stolen goods, it will be reported to me, and it will be blacklisted.    

Your threats are empty - you hide in the shadows.  BUT you have an alternative - stop selling stolen Microsoft keys.

Have a wonderful day, scammer "Jake".  

Just incase he does not understand the stolen part it's Microsoft OP chances are is stealing from.  There is no such thing as a MSDN account that allows sales.  Just look at the TOS

Your not allowed to:rent, lease, lend, resell, transfer, or sublicense any Services or portion thereof to or for third parties, except as explicitly permitted herein or in license terms that accompany any Services component;

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/cc300389.aspx

If you show license terms that Microsoft is allowing you to somehow do the above  you could prove it's legal.  But I personally have not seen this ever. The selling of keys killed Microsoft Technet.

[SellMaster3000]

Now, Vod has tracked down one of my PayPal addresses (Aint using it anymore so don't worry).

If you aren't using it anymore, that's ok.  You'll be blacklisted from opening up anymore paypal accounts.  I know you can't continually open up fake bank accounts with stolen credit cards.  There is a limit to your anonymity.  

Try and create a new paypal address using a VPN... soon enough you'll use it to sell more stolen goods, it will be reported to me, and it will be blacklisted.    

Your threats are empty - you hide in the shadows.  BUT you have an alternative - stop selling stolen Microsoft keys.

Have a wonderful day, scammer "Jake".  

"Stop selling Microsoft keys". You can't tell me what to do, it's as simple as that. As stated by the person above you, I'm not selling any stolen goods. If I am, tell me what is exactly stolen? As I can't see one thing that is.
I don't even use credit cards for my PayPal. I honestly never used a CC ever in my life.
"Scammer Jake" made me laugh. Tell one person I've scammed. Don't say Jstarc, because he wouldn't even let me help him as he immediately opened up a PayPal claim.

For example, last time, I sold someone an invite and it got blocked because of some reason. You know what I did? I sent him the full payment back, even though he already generated keys with it. Of course, you won't believe me, but who are you?

Obviously, you don't understand. When something is against a company's TOS, it doesn't mean it's illegal and the goods are stolen.

Now, Vod has tracked down one of my PayPal addresses (Aint using it anymore so don't worry).

If you aren't using it anymore, that's ok.  You'll be blacklisted from opening up anymore paypal accounts.  I know you can't continually open up fake bank accounts with stolen credit cards.  There is a limit to your anonymity. 

Try and create a new paypal address using a VPN... soon enough you'll use it to sell more stolen goods, it will be reported to me, and it will be blacklisted.   

Your threats are empty - you hide in the shadows.  BUT you have an alternative - stop selling stolen Microsoft keys.

Have a wonderful day, scammer "Jake".   

Just incase he does not understand the stolen part it's Microsoft OP chances are is stealing from.  There is no such thing as a MSDN account that allows sales.  Just look at the TOS

Your not allowed to:rent, lease, lend, resell, transfer, or sublicense any Services or portion thereof to or for third parties, except as explicitly permitted herein or in license terms that accompany any Services component;

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/cc300389.aspx

If you show license terms that Microsoft is allowing you to somehow do the above  you could prove it's legal.  But I personally have not seen this ever. The selling of keys killed Microsoft Technet.

[Vod]

I'm not threatening you right now, I'm talking about real actions.

I'm thinking of a democratic petition which we can all sign to show the forum administrators and moderators that Vod is abusing his powers and is a threat to the stability of Bitcointalk.

I'm all for this - let's come out of the shadows and deal with this in the public legal system.

I'll win, and you'll be exposed.  

Bring it, scammer!

[SellMaster3000]

I'm not threatening you right now, I'm talking about real actions.

I'm thinking of a democratic petition which we can all sign to show the forum administrators and moderators that Vod is abusing his powers and is a threat to the stability of Bitcointalk.

I'm all for this - let's come out of the shadows and deal with this in the public legal system.

I'll win, and you'll be exposed.  

Bring it, scammer!

I'm not even in the shadows... I'm not trying to hide anything. Right now, there isn't any evidence that can bring you to court yet, but I will find it, don't worry.

[Vod]

I'm not threatening you right now, I'm talking about real actions.

I'm thinking of a democratic petition which we can all sign to show the forum administrators and moderators that Vod is abusing his powers and is a threat to the stability of Bitcointalk.

I'm all for this - let's come out of the shadows and deal with this in the public legal system.

I'll win, and you'll be exposed.  

Bring it, scammer!

I'm not even in the shadows... I'm not trying to hide anything. Right now, there isn't any evidence that can bring you to court yet, but I will find it, don't worry.

Ok, I won't.  

Onto your next fake paypal account, Mr. Anonymous...

[SellMaster3000]

I'm not threatening you right now, I'm talking about real actions.

I'm thinking of a democratic petition which we can all sign to show the forum administrators and moderators that Vod is abusing his powers and is a threat to the stability of Bitcointalk.

I'm all for this - let's come out of the shadows and deal with this in the public legal system.

I'll win, and you'll be exposed.  

Bring it, scammer!

I'm not even in the shadows... I'm not trying to hide anything. Right now, there isn't any evidence that can bring you to court yet, but I will find it, don't worry.

Ok, I won't.  

Onto your next fake paypal account, Mr. Anonymous...

Look at you, acting like a little child. For real, do we want this kind of person to be basically in charge of the forum? I don't think so.

[Vod]

Just incase he does not understand the stolen part it's Microsoft OP chances are is stealing from.  There is no such thing as a MSDN account that allows sales.  Just look at the TOS

Your not allowed to:rent, lease, lend, resell, transfer, or sublicense any Services or portion thereof to or for third parties, except as explicitly permitted herein or in license terms that accompany any Services component;

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/cc300389.aspx

If you show license terms that Microsoft is allowing you to somehow do the above  you could prove it's legal.  But I personally have not seen this ever. The selling of keys killed Microsoft Technet.

Did you notice how the OP simply "ignored" your post?   

[SellMaster3000]

Just incase he does not understand the stolen part it's Microsoft OP chances are is stealing from.  There is no such thing as a MSDN account that allows sales.  Just look at the TOS

Your not allowed to:rent, lease, lend, resell, transfer, or sublicense any Services or portion thereof to or for third parties, except as explicitly permitted herein or in license terms that accompany any Services component;

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/cc300389.aspx

If you show license terms that Microsoft is allowing you to somehow do the above  you could prove it's legal.  But I personally have not seen this ever. The selling of keys killed Microsoft Technet.

Did you notice how the OP simply "ignored" your post?   

I did write something beneath it, but apparently it didn't appear (thus the quote without a reply). I said that selling MSDN keys isn't illegal at all. It's against Microsoft's TOS, but it's not illegal.

[Vod]

You are not allowed to:rent, lease, lend, resell, transfer, or sublicense any Services or portion thereof to or for third parties, except as explicitly permitted herein or in license terms that accompany any Services component;

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/cc300389.aspx

According to Microsoft terms (which you agreed to if you obtained the keys legally), you are not allowed to resell the keys.

So did you obtain these keys legally and agree to the terms not to resell, or did you obtain the keys illegally?

One or the other my scammer friend.  

[SellMaster3000]

You are not allowed to:rent, lease, lend, resell, transfer, or sublicense any Services or portion thereof to or for third parties, except as explicitly permitted herein or in license terms that accompany any Services component;

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/cc300389.aspx

According to Microsoft terms (which you agreed to if you obtained the keys legally), you are not allowed to resell the keys.

So did you obtain these keys legally and agree to the terms not to resell, or did you obtain the keys illegally?

One or the other my scammer friend.  

Still, it's not illegal when you're talking about laws, it's just against their TOS.

[Vod]

Still, it's not illegal when you're talking about laws, it's just against there TOS.

Ok, go ahead and start your "democratic petition" while you ignore everything the democracy stands for. 

No wonder you hide behind an anonymous account.

 

[TECSHARE]

Just incase he does not understand the stolen part it's Microsoft OP chances are is stealing from.  There is no such thing as a MSDN account that allows sales.  Just look at the TOS

Your not allowed to:rent, lease, lend, resell, transfer, or sublicense any Services or portion thereof to or for third parties, except as explicitly permitted herein or in license terms that accompany any Services component;

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/cc300389.aspx

If you show license terms that Microsoft is allowing you to somehow do the above  you could prove it's legal.  But I personally have not seen this ever. The selling of keys killed Microsoft Technet.

For the 10,000th time, BREAKING A T.O.S. AGREEMENT IS NOT A CRIMINAL ACT. IT IS 100% WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF CIVIL CONTRACT LAW. If your standard is that no TOS agreements should be violated, almost NO VIRTUAL GOODS would be allowed to be sold on the forum. Furthermore if it was illegal, it would be against forum rules, and the mods and admins would remove it themselves if reported! Therefore the only conclusion left is VOD has trouble controlling his impulses to order people around and start drama.

[Vod]

Just incase he does not understand the stolen part it's Microsoft OP chances are is stealing from.  There is no such thing as a MSDN account that allows sales.  Just look at the TOS

Your not allowed to:rent, lease, lend, resell, transfer, or sublicense any Services or portion thereof to or for third parties, except as explicitly permitted herein or in license terms that accompany any Services component;

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/cc300389.aspx

If you show license terms that Microsoft is allowing you to somehow do the above  you could prove it's legal.  But I personally have not seen this ever. The selling of keys killed Microsoft Technet.

For the 10,000th time, BREAKING A T.O.S. AGREEMENT IS NOT A CRIMINAL ACT. IT IS 100% WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF CIVIL CONTRACT LAW.

I'm not a cop, and I'm not enforcing criminal law.  Stop shouting!  

[SellMaster3000]

Still, it's not illegal when you're talking about laws, it's just against there TOS.

Ok, go ahead and start your "democratic petition" while you ignore everything the democracy stands for. 

No wonder you hide behind an anonymous account.

 

How am I ignoring everything it stands for? I'm just giving you my opinion. Anyways, I offered you an adult conversation, but you continue being childish. I will offer it for the last time. Explain to me how I'm wrong (and how I'm a scammer in your eyes) in a Skype conversation. If you can prove to me that I'm wrong, I will stop all business immediately.

But for real, stop being childish, it will make you look bad.

[Xian01]

FWIW, in my experience, if you've made it onto Vod's radar, more-oft-than-not, it's deserving due to some sort of unsavory behavior perpetrated against this community.

Vod for Global Moderator !

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FWIW, in my experience, if you've made it onto Vod's radar, more-oft-than-not, it's deserving due to some sort of unsavory behavior perpetrated against this community.

Vod for Global Moderator !

So if you're to get sued in court without having the opportunity to defend yourself, have an impartial jury of your peers weigh and ponder the evidence, and present evidence or testimony in your defense, you're cool with that?  Because Norh Korea has some awesome real estate. 

All BS aside, this is getting a little out of hand and detracts from our chief aim of promoting all things BTC.  Can we get back to the party please?

And go Texas Rangers! 

[bit79]

I am with Vod... Promoting all scams BTC is not doing Bitcoin any good.