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4141  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 18, 2017, 04:33:05 PM
28K BTC were sold in bitfinex for the last 24 hours. This is nothing to do with bad news or the coming HF. At the same time the same amount was spent to pump BCH... The conclusions are clear.  Rojer Ver and JihaD Wu are emptying their BTC holdings for the last pathetic attempt to hold the BTC. Btw BCH miners can't support the pumps since with EDA miners are always getting the same profit even if the price drops to 1$.

It's not always the usual suspects. The most serene republic has probably been dumping for days.

May be. But I don't think anyone else but Ver and Wu pumped BCH.

I'm still buying. Then again, I don't own 350,000 BTC, nor the world's most significant Bitcoin mining ASIC manufacturer (i.e., my contribution to the rate is merely a blip at best).
4142  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Gold : Make Bitcoin Decentralized Again on: October 18, 2017, 02:24:21 PM
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Hello OP. Are you officially associated with the BitcoinGPU/BitcoinGold project?
4143  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 18, 2017, 03:02:27 AM
just waiting for you to read through to the many posts today where we trash your meh coin for the deceit lies viruses and tomfoolery that it showed today
https://i.imgur.com/vYqijia.jpg
oh and we forgot to mention how the fraudster Craig Wright is now firmly associated with bitcoin trash.
and that Peter R still doesn't understand that causation does not equal correlation or just about anything really

Hard for me to understand how a coin (i.e., an inanimate thing) might be capable of lying. Perhaps you could restate your point in other terms that are not non-sequiturs?

grow up and face the music. sure it's not Shakespeare to conflate a coin with its supporters. you're a coward feigning ignorance and you support liars, thieves, fraudsters and so on and so forth.

I see you're out of arguments, and on to simple insults. Fine. Fuck you and the chicken you rode in on.

Happy?

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why let Roger etc spout these lies?

Maybe you can enumerate one or two of the so-called 'lies', and we can discuss those. But frankly, I'm not sure of what you are speaking. Even if I did, it is not my responsibility to shield your oh-so-sensitive ears from the utterances of others. (speaking of 'grow up'...)

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why allow a virus in his shop?

'Allow'? I don't have any power over what someone does with their own sites. Virus? Says who? Sure it ain't a false positive? Further, WTF are you concerned about Roger's (Im guessing that's whom of which you speak) shop? If you distrust him so much, why would you buy from his shop in the first place? Makes no sense to a rational person.

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why side with fake satoshi?

I'm guessing you're speaking of CSW? I'm not 'siding' with him. We just happen to both believe that BCH is the rightful heir of the Satoshi throne. He might like Bombay Sapphire too. If so, it would just be one more irrelevancy that we both enjoy a fine martini.

Incidentally, the irony of the fact that your earlier post both accused CSW of fraud, while also castigating another for (allegedly) confusing correlation with causation, is just too delicious.

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Measuring maximum sustained transaction throughput1 on a global network of Bitcoin nodes
PRESENTER(s):
Peter Rizun, Andrea Suisani, Andrew Stone (Bitcoin Unlimited)
https://scalingbitcoin.org/event/stanford2017#schedule

I'm not sure what you are getting at here. Do you have a cogent rebuttal to the paper? Or perhaps you think some factual information should be suppressed?

Long story short - if your ox is getting gored, it ain't me doing it.
4144  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 17, 2017, 11:29:25 PM
just waiting for you to read through to the many posts today where we trash your meh coin for the deceit lies viruses and tomfoolery that it showed today
https://i.imgur.com/vYqijia.jpg
oh and we forgot to mention how the fraudster Craig Wright is now firmly associated with bitcoin trash.
and that Peter R still doesn't understand that causation does not equal correlation or just about anything really

Hard for me to understand how a coin (i.e., an inanimate thing) might be capable of lying. Perhaps you could restate your point in other terms that are not non-sequiturs?

4145  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 17, 2017, 11:00:37 PM
"3 hours ago"

Point taken. On the other hand, near universal next-block confirmation.
4146  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 17, 2017, 10:40:42 PM
If you have 350k btc why would you even bother with bcash?

Because it is The One True Bitcoin, silly.
 Grin
4147  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 17, 2017, 10:27:06 PM
BCH has only 2 supporters - Jihan and Roger.

Either ignorant or a liar. Which whither?
4148  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 17, 2017, 09:40:49 PM
I know many who got burned really badly by BCC; it won´t be easy to build up confidence again (if there ever was)

Some of us have been confident all along. Smiley

Expect turbulence through January's Coinbase dump. Large positive inflection at that time +/- 4 months.
4149  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: October 17, 2017, 09:18:18 PM
To have an unbiased view, you have to own both metals and craptocurrency at the same time,

Well, no, but let's go with that for argument's sake.

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and anyone who does own both tends to look at craptocurrency as a wretched thing that you feel like you need to ditch for more metals.

Not in my experience. I know a lot of folk that (at least claim to) own significant investments in both these categories. Most of which I am aware (myself included) are more bullish on crypto than on PMs.
4150  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 15, 2017, 08:25:38 AM
Jeebus, you ninnies. Less than a week ago, we were at $4800, and damn proud of it. Get some freakin' perspective!
4151  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 15, 2017, 08:18:34 AM
When the really big money wants to enter they definitely try to slam the price down as hard as they can and make everybody shit their pants.

'splan'a'me'this -

If 'the really big money' has no Bitcoin, how are they going to 'slam the price down'? Hmm?
4152  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 15, 2017, 08:16:10 AM
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As another user mentioned in this thread, it would take 30 years for each person on the planet to open and close a lightning channel. And although maybe bitcoin will never use it all, eventually 1MB will not cater.

In the interest of accuracy, 30 years for every human to make one on chain transaction. This could be opening a channel, or it could be closing a channel. If you want everyone to be able to both open and close a channel, you are looking at 60 years.

Well, S2X could drop this down to 30. Go S2X! /s

Why da faq would every user on earth need to open and close an LN channel?

Can we at least agree that, should everyone want to use LN, then everyone will need to open a channel?
4153  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 15, 2017, 12:47:21 AM
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As another user mentioned in this thread, it would take 30 years for each person on the planet to open and close a lightning channel. And although maybe bitcoin will never use it all, eventually 1MB will not cater.

In the interest of accuracy, 30 years for every human to make one on chain transaction. This could be opening a channel, or it could be closing a channel. If you want everyone to be able to both open and close a channel, you are looking at 60 years.

Well, S2X could drop this down to 30. Go S2X! /s
4154  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 14, 2017, 07:52:57 AM
CoinJoin, JoinMarket, Shuffle-what-ever-thingies. ... taint is pretty much useless if someone knew to mix or premix bitcoins. Granted, it's not being done by "normal" people yet, only those in that irc chat room or something that do these transactions. But it will catch on.

We still don't have a usable technology to mix transactions that does not consume even more on-chain block space. Which is, of course, space we don't have on the 1MB4EVAH chain.

#justsayin'

Well this might come to a surprise to you (or you're well aware of this and just trolling  Roll Eyes), but BTC was never meant to be fully anonymous. So yeah it you want to anonymize your coins you have to pay, or wait for sidechains, or if you can't wait use an alt.

<---- point

VVV
Your head
4155  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 14, 2017, 07:47:56 AM
wow , why we need so many forks?

Well, we don't. But forks are approximately free to create. And if they capture the imagination of the great unwashed, they may be profitable.

Think about what you all are advocating. BitcoinGPU/BitcoinGold? Bitch, please.
4156  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 14, 2017, 07:44:16 AM
I don't understand the BCash fanatics irrational objections to Segwit. As far as I can tell, it's just a clever optimisation and rearrangement of how data is stored to save space. Where is the objection?

It also completely changes the transaction format. And more importantly, changes Bitcoin from 'a chain of signatures' (protip: look that up in the white paper) to something completely weaker. Maybe most importantly, replaces Bitcoin's security model completely with another that is demonstrably weaker, and perhaps fatal (time will tell). Of course, other than that, it does not solve the problem of a stupid production quota upon block space.

Other than that? No, I guess otherwise, it's okay.
4157  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 13, 2017, 08:41:05 PM
in 10 years BTC could be down to 1.5625 BTC where BCH could have powered through 3-4 times as many blocks and only have a reward of 0.02441406 BCH or 0.01220703 BCH so to remain profitable the difficulty would need to be really low and really fast blocks

Your scenario is possible, but implausible.
4158  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 13, 2017, 08:34:15 PM
CoinJoin, JoinMarket, Shuffle-what-ever-thingies. ... taint is pretty much useless if someone knew to mix or premix bitcoins. Granted, it's not being done by "normal" people yet, only those in that irc chat room or something that do these transactions. But it will catch on.

We still don't have a usable technology to mix transactions that does not consume even more on-chain block space. Which is, of course, space we don't have on the 1MB4EVAH chain.

#justsayin'
4159  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 13, 2017, 08:30:25 PM
how they are trying to stop the internet
Peer to Peer networking

War on file sharing
War on encryption
War on information
War on cryptocurrency

time for peer to peer currency to rise

A usable P2P mesh networking technology would be useful as well.

Decentralize
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All the ISPs!
4160  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 13, 2017, 05:23:02 PM
Faster blocks are bad you get much faster inflation where the market is flooded with new coins diluting the value and the available supply (minor rewards) dries up much faster than adoption meaning there are no incentives to mine any more because the miners have to just rely on transaction fees which are non existent due to very low transaction volume so far most of the transacted volume shown on coinmarketcap is done inside exchanges not on the blockchain so miners do not get a cut of this

The Bitcoin Cash block height is about one-tenth of one percent ahead of the Bitcoin Segwit Core block height. You sure you're not hyperventilating over nothing?

You cannot count the blocks before the fork because it wasn't bitcoin cash then it was bitcoin and was not being abused

Bcash is only around 10 weeks old and already currently close to 6 weeks ahead and you think this is nothing

So if the EDA continues being periodically activated for the next three-quarters century or so (a dubious proposition at most), Bitcoin Cash miners' income will need to switch from block reward to completely transaction fee by the year 2090 instead of 2140.

And you see this as an imminent fatal problem. Got it.
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