just to reiterate
start with the standard, ETH and BTC, ETH is already an altcoin so you're basically hedged and you can have a descent return
So true, these coins are well established so its platform and strong community support can be trusted. Also look at the coinmarketcap.com and choose undervalued coins but still promising. I'm talking about waves, ltc and xrp and xmr. This is just an advice so better to do also some research and analysis.
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i sell all my altcoins these days, China not only ban ico but also ban all the exchange, this will cause a storm in the world, run away you guys
This is all part of the side show of China, all that's happening right now is just a show. Soon the ICO ban will be remove after they created their own exchange and China will take profit to this. And cryptos will soon recover to this so buy now while it's red.
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Almost traders have already stored crypto and are still eager to exchange from fiat to crypto because the crypto market is on peak now. Yes right now,anyone would love to have cryptos in their wallets than to keep fiat as everyone is expecting more profits from crypto. An efficient way to exchange between fiat and crypto currency i have found so far is localbitcoins.com
You have a point sir. But we can't say that we're rich if all our money is in cryptos. We can only consider ourselves rich when we already converted our coins into fiat. In that way we can buy anything that we want without limit. Purchasing through bitcoin is very limited, we all knew that because bitcoin aren't yet acceptable in everywhere. Converting cryptos into fiat is still essential for me, it's not the old fashioned way but I think it's the wisest move.
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don't be sad it's just price correction and also people panic selling right now because they're afraid that bitcoin could not go up anymore but i believed that split won't affect the price of bitcoin in fact bitcoin price rise before this year ends . you just need to hold and trust on bitcoin if you want to grow your bitcoin.
The only thing we can do now is really to hold on to this until its value arise, when we sell now it could be a lose, due to btc dips now into lower $4000 ,im already at lose so I will just wait than sell it. When things turned out to this many tend to panic sell and they think this is the best way to do for not to them to lose but they're actually losing. And the trust to bitcoin isn't enough for them to hold. HODLing is real in bitcoin because we seen it at it's highest so just in time it'll recover. I'm sure we don't want to miss the train again so if you have something left just hold it.
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yes I agree, I think banks and bitcoin can work together to make transactions easier and simpler. of course bitcoin and bank will strengthen each other so I think this is a very good idea.
We still need bank to do transactions with bitcoin especially for cashing out. I think btc bank can be a great help for us to make it more convenient. I don't think so as here in my country we can convert fiat without the need of bank. We have a lot of options where to cash out and it's working fine. If bank and bitcoin will work together this will be a total chaos to all users, the pseudonym will be loss and the hackers will have a full access. Banks aren't safe that even their employees are suspected of glitches that are happening. We are now doing fine without banks so just be it.
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The real value of bitcoin is determined by the supply and demand.. If people keeps buying, then the price will be high, just like it happen with anything that you buy daily.. Like smartphones, do you think that their bussiness want their price to be $1000 each one? No, that is because people is still buying them at that price, and they can afford to make the price higher. The same happens with cryptos, that is why it is always going up, because the demand.
i know it is depend on demand but i ask for real value of you ? what price you will set for bitcoin Nah it also depends on the the supply in the market. Supply and demand is like a tag team, when the supply becomes limited and there's a high demand so the value will go up. This are happening now in bitcoin, as we nearly reach the maximun supply of 21 million the value gets higher and higher and also the increasing demand of the users. It's domino effect surely affects the market.
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1. Do not remember electronic wallet password 2. Do not back up your wallet 3. Do not research new services 4. Buy and sell based on feelings 5. Leave your money in the electronic money floor
6. Waste time on faucets (we all did) 7. Collect dust and pay high fees on it 8. Leave coins in an exchange 9. Trust the wrong people and get scammed 10. Panic at a price correction Let's admit that we all did this when we're still a beginner and for sure even now. A lot of mistakes that taught us to learn new things and not to do that again. I just smile when I read these like being nostalgic. Haha! I must say experience is always the best teacher to all of us like if we didn't experienced these we're not here in where we are. And making mistakes at once or twice is fine but when it's done repeatedly it's already foolishness.
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In my case, I´m just holding Bitcoins and DeepOnions. Why? Because I think there is a lot to grow yet, the roadmap is excellent and the dev team is working hard to develop new features. I want to recommend you to take a look about that project. Maybe you can apply for the airdrops. Good thing you have some bitcoin in your portfolio. And I also want to join in airdrop of deeponion but I'm having hard time to download nova exchange. Hope I can still participate in airdrop. However, I'm planning to buy some adex and mco now as they pump hard lately so I told to myself if these will be going to dump I'll definitely buy some. Just hoping it'll pump again.
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It's free coin. It's the same with bitcoin. Just low fee. First I think it's better than bitcoin but think about when the price over bitcoin. Fee will be higher Yeah since it's just a free coin I dumped it already like last month and I'm happy with my decision. No regrets after all. I sold it and buy altcoins like waves and mco that I think are promising to hold. I didn't think twice if I'll hold bcc or not like I don't want some accessory in my wallet. Don't want to support a "wanna be bitcoin" that are made in China.
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all coin price increase and decrease so i tell you hold you coin. when you see it price up sell it. other if you can guess coin price is over low you sell it and after time you buy again it.
If the price of a coin falls away from the stable price of the chart you better hold it because who knows next year the coin will rise high. No one can really tell what will happen in our coins all we can do is to trust it. For me HODLing is real when you hold promising coins but you should determine it first which is which and if you succeed here you have a decent profit over time. Holding is risky in every aspect because you just rely on the graphs and your guts. Your sub conscious will help you somehow in making decisions and try to seek others opinion.
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Straight forward question;
What do you investors look for in Pre-ICOs and then after the coin does come out on exchanges what do you look for when you're trading?
Good pre-ico discounts and bonuses, stable token price without deflation and inflation after the token gets on the exchanger platforms. This is the main two expectation from me. I think you missed something? It's hard to find a stable token price like it won't fluctuate? Maybe there's a little chance you can find one but this will means that there's no demand in that token. Of course no one wants a stable currency, right? I'm afraid that there's no chances of the token price increases. Well it's really hard to determine which ICO will be successful so it's a win or lose situation. But I'm looking at the fresh ideas, the team behind, roadmap and whitepaper.
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I don't have the job for over 1 year, and have only income from bitcoin and the result so far is good, even better than the real work. I get it from trade and bounty hunter in this forum which the results are amazing.
I am an employed mother and as a starter in bitcoin my income is still small.Im planning to resign on my job and focused on bitcoin only as my source of income.And also to focused on my children too.to take care of them while on bitcoin my husband is also in bitcoin and he has also a job.so its gives me hope that bitcoin is enough on my source of income. Maybe when you think you're experience in bitcoin is enough and you have enough savings to sustain the daily needs of your family then you can quit your job to have some quality time with your family. Let your husband work and you take care of the household chores while doing bitcoin. This is great opportunity to your family to save up and secured the future of your family. Maybe it will be tough at first but in time I know it will be all worth it.
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The CHINA ban is just FUD, so ignore that. People spread these rumours to manipulate the price and to cause panic. When the price drops, they buy coins at cheap price. On banks creating their own Blockchains, you should know that there are a big difference between a PUBIC Blockchain like Bitcoin and these permissioned PRIVATE Blockchains that are being created by banks. These Blockchains are centralized and based on a failed model. {Fiat} Of course these are all part of the show and many are trap with these BS and they sell their bitcoin in a non profitable price. China wants to manipulate us as well as creating their own exchange. The ICO banning is for temporary only, when they already bought their specific target of low price bitcoin they'll remove the ban and make some hypes to pump the price of bitcoin. So wise of them.
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The spreadsheet will be updated soon!
The next cut-off and payments will be after 23:59 16th of September
Thank you Solar dao BM for getting us updated as always! More powers!
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I am often late from work due to gambling. Did you ever lose time from work or school due to gambling?
Well, i'm addicted to gambling and i also often late when go to the university. I also even can't continue my college 1 year because of gambling. Gambling is really give a bad affect into my life. Thank god, gambling never affect my work because i always serious when it comes into work. Oh good thing you'd be able to stop your gambling addiction. I have a friend that continue being like that and he still not yet learned his lesson even he almost lose his family and he's totally fucked up. He can't work for a living and still rely on his parent's money. This really pissed me off like he can't get a life for god's sake. As for me, didn't experience this yet as I can control and manage my time and I know my priorities as well.
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China is so amazing at manipulating their currency. It is unbelievable how they do that. And now they are manipulating Bitcoin as well.
This is not new when we hear China, all we see now are all made in China like we've been invaded by these chinese people. And all things are possible with them like they're now working to have a centralized exchange so they can manipulate the market. And they're using now the dumps they've made to buy more btc so after this they will pump hard to make new and good profit.
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usually I hold my coins for 2 things only .. 1. I hold the coin because I have not considered profit. 2. I take off my coin when I face emergency money needs so I will sell all my coin.
I agree with your opinion about the second point you are throwing, about holding a profit coin, because if we sell coins with ico price itself a bad road, no profit gained. and at this last point also often happens to me, when urgent circumstances I immediately sell it, even though the price is down. Of course if there's an emergency don't hesitate to sell especially when it's too necessary like someone's life is at stake. No money can replace someone's life. Like you two I'm betting on this also. I hold coins and waiting to hit my target price like it should be in ico price or beyond that and this will be fine with me, don't wanna be too greedy after all. A good profit is enough for me. And of course, it depends on the coins that I'm holding if its for short term or long term holding, so need to know which is which.
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Jewelry would be the perfect option for buying using btc. Bitcoin and jewelries complements each other and I will save those as one of my assets and just look at them everytime to relax myself.
Yeah of course bitcoin and jewelry is a good asset but nowadays I think jewelry is not that advisable to buy as the value of it is not easily increase. Better just sit on your bitcoin and don't spend it in not so important things as the value of it in the future will be worth everything.
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It is very convenient, no hassle when you are making transaction like transferring fuds. You don't have to go to banks and fall in line to deposit.
So true and I'm sure everyone had and experiencing this. Before I need to go to banks just to deposit and trasfer funds but when bitcoin came to my life, all these became convenient to me, like I didnt have to pay taxes even I sent money internationally and the best thing I can buy some load using my bitcoin. The transaction time is even reasonable for me. Bitcoin is not just for investment but it's also for us to experience all of these. Truly bitcoin touches our lives in different aspects.
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The dips have not been so low to encourage me to buy yet... Have a buy order but it is lower than the actual price. Should go to the 4000$ or so to trigger it.
I think you should buy it now because after the big whales are playing we can't be sure if we still can afford to buy. This is all part of the show of China so better stood up brother. China wants to buy dump btc and make a centralized exchange that they can be control. China is always ahead of us.
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